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  • in reply to: Bad family news on two fronts #94871
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    Well i got nuthin. Cept you might wanna watch the Coen brothers latest movie on the randomness of violence outcomes among humans.

    The coen brothers dont have any answers, either.

    in reply to: reactions to the Lions game #94870
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    I watched the replay. Goff looked worse than I’ve seen him since the fisher days.

    And not just his play, but on the sidelines. He looked like he had the flu to me. Just looked pale and…off.

    I expected the defense to look better against teams like Detroit (and Chicago).

    Any win away from home is great, but man that was ugly.

    Cooper Kupp is missed.

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    in reply to: NFC playoff prospects, week 12 & counting #94673
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    Cowboys beat Saints with only 13 points? Wtf?

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    this may have been posted but i didnt see it:

    in reply to: Rams @ Lions #94620
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    Talib sez the Rams need to work on eliminating the big play. I’m guessing that is going to open up the ‘little plays’ for Stafford. I expect the Lions to be successful at dinking and dunking at home.

    Rams 28
    Lions 20

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    in reply to: Gurley stuff from 10/17 to… #94517
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    2017: 22%, ranked 22nd
    2018: 13.9%, ranked 1st

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    What accounts for the difference?

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    in reply to: The Kashoggi thing #94516
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    Fisk:http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50670.htm

    “….If there’s a murder, there’s got to be a body. And so here, briefly, we go back to Istanbul and to the Sultan himself, who doesn’t blame good old King Salman, but who really would like to find the corpse and who might – here we go again – have yet another tape of Khashoggi to send to the world’s intelligence services. Be sure our political leaders will not sully their ears by listening to it; Trump called the original recording “a suffering tape”. Canada’s Trudeau chose not to listen to it. But they really should have put their ear to the loudspeaker. Listening to an Arab journalist telling his murderers that he was suffocating would have been a fairly accurate symbol of democracy in the Middle East today…..
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    ….Can we see a deal in the making here? The Yemen war comes to an end (thanks to its arms-selling enablers in the west) and the Syrian war reaches its peaceful finale with the blessing of Vladimir Putin. Of the $450bn Saudi Arabia has promised to spend on weapons in the US – let’s have no more talk of a piece of paper – $110bn will go to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon “and many other great US defence contractors”. Adel al-Jubair’s “vision of light” – Saudi Arabia, of course – can go to war with Iran’s “vision of darkness which seeks to spread sectarianism throughout the region”.

    Khashoggi may have had a certain vision of darkness as they put the plastic bag over his head in the Saudi consulate last month, but in the Middle East the good guys don’t always come out on top. The war with Iran must be fought. The war against the Shiites must be fought. Israel and Netanyahu – notice how those names have so far eluded us in our woeful tale today? – will be satisfied with their “secret” Saudi alliance against Iran. Boeing and Lockheed Martin will flourish, along with many other great US defence contractors…”

    in reply to: Noam turning 90 #94486
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    “one of the most amazing documents i have ever seen”

    in reply to: Talib #94485
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    I’m not expecting much in his first game back. I’m just hopin he doesnt re-injure himself, and I’m hoping he’s up to speed when the playoffs come.

    One would think the Rams defense will start ‘looking’ better given the schedule they play now. Aint no more Chiefs or Saints on the schedule. The Bears are not an offensive team. San Fran and Arizona suck. I figure the D will ‘look’ better — whether it actually IS better…?

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    in reply to: NFC playoff prospects, week 12 & counting #94477
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    So the 49ers are still in it.

    What scenario would have to unfold for them to make it?

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    That’s not a list of playoff eligible teams.

    It’s just a ranking of every single NFC team and their playoff chances. Which in several cases, is zero.

    I would say that everyone from the Packers (10th) on down is pretty much already eliminated.

    Green Bay btw should be 4-6-1. But they are eliminated unless something impossible happens–every single NFC team above them loses all 5 remaining games and they win all 5. That’s impossible since all the teams on the list play each other so they can’t ALL lose.

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    what about the worm-hole scenario?

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    in reply to: NFC playoff prospects, week 12 & counting #94470
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    So the 49ers are still in it.

    What scenario would have to unfold for them to make it?

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    in reply to: The Kashoggi thing #94455
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    Its gotten so that MSNBC just looks like the CIA-Network to me. Really. Thats how i see it.
    Newsweek has ‘always’ been that way.

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    spy-‘reporters’:https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/newsweek-employed-spy-explains-to-us-why-assange-should-be-prosecuted-4cb319533633?fbclid=IwAR2GzNG3Ha_u-Qu3u5IKNsZuqVGcGzljmYafUhgIh899wO_eIIqw6kyGH3g

    Newsweek-Employed Spy Explains To Us Why Assange Should Be Prosecuted

    “…Jamali is currently a reserve intelligence officer for the United States Navy, and is a former FBI asset and double agent. He is also like many intelligence community insiders an MSNBC contributor, and is a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, a think tank which has featured many prominent neoconservative war whores like Donald and Frederick Kagan, Max Boot, and James Woolsey. Any think tank with the words “foreign policy” in its title is nothing other than a group of intellectuals who are paid by plutocrats to come up with the best possible arguments for why it would be very good and smart to do things that are very evil and stupid, and Naveed Jamali sits comfortably there….”

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    Well one of them looks like Ronald McDonald. I am not convinced he is a super hero.

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    in reply to: what will you do Sunday in the bye week #94453
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    Panthers 3
    Seahawks 0 first quarter score….

    I think its important we all focus our energy into destroying the seahawks playoff chances.

    Plus, revenge against the Panthers in the playoffs would be welcome. I havent forgotten the Bulger/Martz game.

    Now i have to go to Lowes. I’m leaving invader in charge of the Seahawks’ demise.

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    in reply to: what will you do Sunday in the bye week #94435
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    I’m thinkin about laying some ceramic tile.

    I’m also going to try and find a way to make rice and beans taste good.

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    in reply to: The Kashoggi thing #94434
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    Trump lies constantly. About a gazillion things. Over and over. And yet, sometimes he pulls back the curtain. I think thats why factions in the CIA hate him. Thats just a guess.

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    His clumsiness and ignorance certainly drew attention in this case to the fact that the US does not care about the murder of a journalist when there is money at stake.

    But…you know…it has been pretty obvious to many of us long before now. I’m not sure there is a silver lining here. The people who can connect dots already have. They aren’t going to learn that skill now, even with the blatant ham-fisted ramblings of the misfit in chief.

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    Oh, i dont see a silver lining, either.

    …Ojeda for vice president, btw. I bet progressives push for that. It might bring in a few red-states like WV.

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    in reply to: Kickoffs are Stupid and Bad…Discuss #94433
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    I know getting rid of the kickoff has been suggested for a few years now, but I’d never really had a strong opinion about it. Recently having read some books about brain injuries I’ve started to feel that eliminating the kickoff is a good idea. I like the Schiano idea actually. This video is the first that I’ve heard of it. The narrator would prefer a 4th and ten scenario, but I’d prefer to stay with Schiano’S plan or even go to 4th and 20 because it seems like there is already an increase in scoring in today’s NFL. I don’t want even the slightest chance even more inflated scoring. Anyway, I liked that video.

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    If they were to adopt it, I agree 4th and 20 makes more sense to me. I dont think the percentage should stray to far from the onside kick success rate.

    It would be much safer. Probably save some lives.

    But i like kickoffs.

    Shit.

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    in reply to: thotz, views, and predictions on the next 5 games #94429
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    Well they havent come out flat all year long. 11 games and no flat ones.

    But once upon a time, there was a team in Los Angeles that was 11 and 1.
    Heavily favored over a group of Lions. A December game.

    28-0 Lions.
    (chuck knox was oline coach of the Lions)

    link:https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/ram/1969.htm

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    in reply to: Noam turning 90 #94420
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    “….At age twelve, Noam entered Central High School in Philadelphia, a highly regarded school but one that he hated, “It was the dumbest, most ridiculous place I’ve ever been, it was like falling into a black hole or something. For one thing, it was extremely competitive—because that’s one of the best ways of controlling people.” He remained in school but lost interest in it…”

    Yes? No?

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    in reply to: The Kashoggi thing #94407
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    angry arab website:http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

    A movie review from the angry arab site mentioned in the real news vid.

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    Lebanon in US action movies: Beirut starring Jon Hamm

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    As`ad AbuKhalil

    Lebanon often provided a venue for American and Western action films. In the 1950s and 1960s, it was a place of international intrigue and espionagewhere spies intersected with other spies, and where car chases on mountainous roads provided for good movie scenes. There were so many US and European movies shot in Lebanon in those times, with such titles: “The Sell-out”, “Masquerade”, “Man on the Spying Trapeze”, “Agent 505”, “Embassy”, among others. But that so-called peaceful Lebanon (where successive Israeli invasions and massacres don’t get a mention in Western movie accounts, and are rarely listed as the reason for undermining the old Lebanon—with all its flaws, inequities, and injustices) does not exist anymore. The Lebanese civil war provided a totally different venue for American action films that were to come in the 1980s.

    While the Lebanese civil war was too complex for American films—and even for Western media and scholarly accounts, and while American films rarely if ever cover international conflicts and wars unless there is a white savior who can be inserted into the plot, the American military intervention in Lebanon in the 1980s and the bombing of US marine barracks in 1983 and the civil war phase where US was fighting alongside the Phalanges death squads, provided whole new scenarios for American action films, especially those which were produced by Israelis with tenuous or non-tenuouslinks to Mossad. America was ready to take revenge, if not in reality than on the silver screen.

    The Delta Force series of movies starring Chuck Norris were written and produced by the Israeli propagandist, Menachem Golan (who had servedin the Israeli military). And the depiction of the Middle East was a vulgar variation of the stereotypes: religious fanaticism mixed with thuggery, and neighborhoods and streets are replicas of the worst Orientalist imaginations. Many of those movies had Israeli participation in set creations, production, and acting. Arabic words are often (mis)pronounced with Hebrew accents.

    But one would think that times have changed and that Middle East depiction in films has improved a bit. The story line of the film, Beirut, was based on a script by well-known writer who was behind the Bourne plots starring Matt Damon. Yet, the plot is nothing more than a cliché that always finds its way in US movies about the Middle East. A good white Westerner is kidnapped by bloodthirsty Arabs. And the good white American in the movie is a CIA agent who of course knows the region better than its natives. But there are many elements of the movie that are woefully false, and often offensive.

    Who, for example, would find a beach in Beirut where camels are strolling? And what is the deal with camels in Middle Eastern cities? Camels are wonderful animals who played a big part in the lives of ancient Arab nomads, but times have changed, and even in Saudi Arabia the percentage of the population which still is nomadic is miniscule (less than 5%). And in Lebanon, you would have to search for a days to find a camel (you can find some in the Biqa` valley, but it is almost impossible to find a camel in Beirut). And why would camels be in Beirut—and on the beach?

    And the juxtaposition of the Lebanese civil war with the plot clearly reflected the ignorance of the writer about the civil war. People who did not live in a civil war situation assume that people fought daily, and that there were no truces and that normal lives did not find a way to coexist with war. There were often months of cease-fires that were rarely violated, and days of intense fighting were often followed by days of no fighting. Yet, the film assumes that fighting went on non-stop.

    And the Palestinian militia members had names that were not recognizable although the group in question resembled that of Fath-Revolutionary Council (the Abu Nidal organization). But the notion that CIA forces or US embassy armed gunmen moved so freely in Beirut—especially in West Beriut as in the movie–and Lebanon is a figment of the imagination of the movie. The movie should have reminded Americans that, in fact, from 1975 until 1982, the US diplomatic and military presence in Lebanon was (officially through understandings between the CIA and Force 17 of the Fath Movement) under the direct protection of the PLO (the PLO assigned the Lebanese Arab Amry, which split off from the Phalanges-controlled Lebanese Army, to protect the US embassy in Beirut). It was only after the evacuation of the PLO forces from Lebanon that US embassy was attacked and US diplomats and intelligence agents were kidnapped (the assassination of US ambassador Francis Meloy in 1976 was undertaken by a Lebanese leftist group, and the PLO had nothing to do with the assassination). In the movie, the PLO is seen as rather less dominant than it actually was (militarily speaking). And American diplomats moved in those days extremely cautiously in Beirut (especially after the assassination of US ambassador Francis Meloy) and with close coordination with the PLO in areas of West Beirut. None of that was shown in the movie.

    The movie also started with a high class party and an American CIA agent observed that Christians and Muslims sat apart during such social occasions. Anyone who would say that has never been to Lebanon, and probably obtained this idea from Israeli experts (the lead Palestinian child in the movie is in fact played by an Israeli actor, or an actor with an Israeli sounding name). Christians and Muslims mingled freely socially before, during, and after the war and the movie confused the later part of the civil war (where sectarian manifestations were quite pronounced) with the early phase of 1975-1982 when the Left vs Right was a key dimension of the war.

    The movie also projected the current Islamic fundamentalist tide on the past, forgetting that secularism was the norm among Lebanese and Palestinians in West Beirut at that time. It was the Israeli invasion of 1982 which eradicated the PLO (and its great influence) from Lebanon and unleashed religious forces among Muslims of Lebanon and the region (Hizbullah never existed before the devastating and brutal Israeli invasion of 1982). There was a scene in the movie where Christian fighters were watching a program showing bikini-clad women, and the implication of the scene was that Christians are not as conservative as Muslims. In realty, bikini clad women could be found back then in predominantly Muslim West Beirut and (the exclusively) Christian East Beirut (the pro-US/pro-Phalange militias of the right managed to perpetrate whole sale massacres of the ethnic-cleansing type against Palestinian and Muslims Lebanese in the early 1975-76 phase of the war).

    Also, in the early phase of the war 1975-76, the social scene among Muslims was much more secular than it became in the 1980s. Veiled women, and women wearing niqab were actually rare in those years. It was only in the 1980s, and especially after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (and the Iranian Revolution and the spread of Wahhabi doctrine in the Muslim world) and the evacuation of the PLO which had a secularizing influence on Lebanese society, that veils became more common.

    Also, Western accounts (fiction and non-fictions alike) of the Lebanese civil war always omits a basic fact: that US and Israel were heavily involved in the outbreak and prolongation of the war. The recent book by James Stoker, Spheres of Interference, (which is based on new US declassified documents) reveals the extent to which the right-wing death squads of Lebanon were heavily sponsored by the US and Israel. Just as US media today pretends that Israel (which bombed Syria well over 100 times) and which has links to various armed groups inside the country, is a bystander in the Syrian war.

    There were references in the movie to bad elements in the CIA, and there were references to frictions between Mossad and the CIA. But the power of the Mossad was—typical in Western culture—highly exaggerated. The various stumbles, foiled attempts, and exposure especially in Dubai when the local polices plastered pictures of Mossad agents around the world don’t affect the image of the Mossad in the West. Finally, the movie talked about Israeli violence as if it was only directed at “terrorists”, while showing pictures of Israeli victims of Palestinian violence. But Arabs can never be victims—not in Western media or movies. And this movie was no different.

    in reply to: The Kashoggi thing #94405
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    I read somewhere else that MBS was somehow disruptive to the goal of regime change in Iran, but I don’t remember the connection between the two.

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    This is why I’m comfortable with the notion of “deep state.” I dont know what else to call a
    corporate-empire like the US, that has all these layers of secret, non-democratic schemes. What else should we call it? We dont really know wtf this ‘nation’ is up to much of the time.

    Nation of lies, secrets, propaganda, and a public that you might as well just say is under a ‘spell’.

    …i also think this guy is right that Trump is sometimes more honest than Obama. Sounds outlandish but i think its true. Trump’s not honest but i think he is sometimes MORE honest than Obama/Clinton, etc. This of course is not something you will ever hear from Colbert or John Oliver or any of the Dem-MSM stooges.

    Trump lies constantly. About a gazillion things. Over and over. And yet, sometimes he pulls back the curtain. I think thats why factions in the CIA hate him. Thats just a guess.

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    in reply to: Chiefs are better? #94363
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    Yeah it’s the opposite of 99 and “they haven’t played anyone yet.”

    Now it’s “yeah, well, I dunno…the other team, which is GREAT, shoulda won.”

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    I should just watch sports analyst-vids with the sound turned down.

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    “but the Rams D? It’s good, but they suck at the same time?”

    Oh, and i liked this too:
    “I feel like this some kinda black magic voodoo shit thread, is it suppose to give the bears good luck vs the rams ? Because the amount of fuckery going on in here is completely on the level of the mentally handicapped.”

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    in reply to: some tweets … 11/22 #94347
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    Benjamin Allbright@AllbrightNFL
    Jon Gruden has to be coach of the year. No one else’s decision making is about to have two teams in first in their division

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    I cant stand Gruden, but the media makes me ill. He’s rebuilding. It happens. Maybe in a couple years he builds a championship team with all those draft picks.
    PLUS, its not his fault the owner couldnt pay K.Mack.

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    in reply to: Goff 10-21-18 … and cont'd #94341
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    I wonder what we’d be sayin, if’n that Chief CB had held onto the INT at the end of the game?

    Itz a game of inches.

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    in reply to: enjoy your Thanksgiving #94340
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    Its all about the Pumpkin Pie to me.

    And the genocide.

    But Pumpkin pie is important.

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    Pumpkin genocide?

    Kk

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    I LIKE it.

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    in reply to: reactions to the big KC game win #94327
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    They talk about Mahomes 5 turn overs, but that was a result of the Rams making plays. The interception was a desperation throw and the pick by Ebukam that might have been a bad throw, but the rest were just plain take aways, credit to the Rams defense.

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    True, I’ve heard a lot of criticism of Mahomes turning it over, but
    most of those were seriously-forced. And theres no reason to think AD wouldnt force more in a rematch.

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    in reply to: Suh #94326
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    Suh is doing ok. imo
    He is not the force I expected. I figure he is gone next year

    Yes.

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    in reply to: thotz, views, and predictions on the next 5 games #94325
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    Well a lot depends on Gurley’s ankle. Noone is talking about it, but ankles are funny things.

    The only game that would shock me if they lost is Arizona. All the rest are lose-able.

    I do have a lot of faith in McVay though.

    One of my concerns is Whitworth. He is old. Wear’in down. He aint been the same as last year.
    Good time for a bye.

    Seems like the season should have ended after the Chief game. The NFL shoulda just called off the season.

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    in reply to: enjoy your Thanksgiving #94323
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    Its all about the Pumpkin Pie to me.

    And the genocide.

    But Pumpkin pie is important.

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