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October 23, 2016 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Poll question…Who thinks Goff should start the rest of the season? #55893sanbaggerParticipant
I think the plan all along was to start Goff’s career after the bye week. Short of the Rams leading the division he was gonna get his shot.
Not sure if he’s ready. Last I saw (pre-season) he didn’t look any where near ready but I have read some reports that he looks great in practice. Well, I look great on the driving range but when I get on the course with my buddies I seem to get away from my training thoughts.
CK could have saved his job but came out and played pretty bad today.
I look forward to seeing Goff…I just hope we don’t see those bone-headed fumbles while trying to make something happen. I didn’t see CK doing anything that Goff can’t do, IMO and he can do things CK just can’t.
sanbaggerParticipantSince this is the bye week when can we start posting threads about something other than this loss?
And 3-4 is not in competition for a playoff spot. 8-8 is rarely good enough. Seattle had to win the division to get in sub .500.
3-4 is still in the hunt…maybe a bit of a longshot but still in the hunt.
9 games to go and we can look back at 2-3 of those losses that could have easily been wins…just turn those around the 2nd half and get on a run.
If a team get’s hot and builds confidence they can roll off 3, 4, 5 wins in a row.
But this Rams team doesn’t win those games. Today we watched an INT that any one of us in wheelchair or on crutches could have caught from Keenum.
They have this year. They won 3 in a row and none of them were blowouts…so…yes, this team can and has done it.
With the exception of the niner game they had a chance to win every other game…won 3 of them and lost 3 of them.
sanbaggerParticipantSince this is the bye week when can we start posting threads about something other than this loss?
And 3-4 is not in competition for a playoff spot. 8-8 is rarely good enough. Seattle had to win the division to get in sub .500.
3-4 is still in the hunt…maybe a bit of a longshot but still in the hunt.
9 games to go and we can look back at 2-3 of those losses that could have easily been wins…just turn those around the 2nd half and get on a run.
If a team get’s hot and builds confidence they can roll off 3, 4, 5 wins in a row.
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sanbaggerParticipantDid Quinn play? He’s not on the stat sheet.
Yep he played and ALMOST got to Eli.
GW did blitz a couple of times but I didn’t see 1 recorded sack…anybody?
It was another day of almost…ughhh
sanbaggerParticipantGRob was very bad…LT’s a key missing element right now.
I give CK at fault for 2 of his 4 INT’s today
I put the coaching staff at fault for the red flags that again killed us all day.
Quick had a very good game except for the miscommunication to end the game.
TA made a critical mistake by not handling the catch that resulted in a pick-6, but had a pretty good game and made some critical 3rd down pick ups.
I thought GRob got some bad calls. Also. I felt that the refs missed an illegal shove, and a PI call, both on the Giants the one that Britt was coming down inside, the Giant db pushed Britt, and was not looking for the ball.
GRob has the rep and until he shakes that off by being squeeky clean, he’s gonna get called…it’s on him.
I also didn’t like the Nuetral zone call against AD…that was a bad call period…but, just like GRob the Rams a whole have a bad rep and the refs are comin in lookin to throw flags on them.
sanbaggerParticipantThanks…I’ll try again next time.
sanbaggerParticipantGRob was very bad…LT’s a key missing element right now.
I give CK at fault for 2 of his 4 INT’s today
I put the coaching staff at fault for the red flags that again killed us all day.
Quick had a very good game except for the miscommunication to end the game.
TA made a critical mistake by not handling the catch that resulted in a pick-6, but had a pretty good game and made some critical 3rd down pick ups.
sanbaggerParticipantI think Quick just missed that play.
Quick has the size on Rogers-Cromartie and that moon ball would have been perfect for Quick to either get a TD or get a flag.
sanbaggerParticipantNice play by CK on 4th and 10. Low snap, fields it and makes an accurate throw to Quick.
Can they get it in the end zone?
sanbaggerParticipant5′ 7″ Tavon Austin over the top double coverage sucks…
Too bad Quick badly mis timed his jump the play earlier.
He did miss time that reception, but the ball was behind him again IMO.
sanbaggerParticipantOn that ill fated drive GRob was called for holding 3 times…that just isn’t gonna work.
Year 3 he has to be showing more than that.
CK is killin us this game. The pass before the INT Quick was wide open for another TD and CK missed him then through a great pass to the GMen.
sanbaggerParticipant3rd and 22….1st down…huge
sanbaggerParticipantLink hasn’t worked for me either
When it was 10-0 Giants were backed with a 3rd and 7 when Donald had the neutral zone penalty. He didn’t appear to be offsides but the momentum changed after that play.
Rams need to take over this game in the 4th qtr
I agree. I saw him flinch but it sure didn’t look like he jumped or touched anybody. Thought that was a BAD call.
The good guys need to take this down the field and get some points now. It would help if the guys with Blue are the ones catching the ball
sanbaggerParticipantI may be the only one there….
Links not working for me…just keeps loading. May be the internet at the Hotel
sanbaggerParticipantLooks like they need to run Gurley outside more…no room up the guy but looks like he keeps producing outside.
Jet sweeps to TA have gone the way of the dinasaur. I think those would be effective here also.
Fish is Dying to go for another 4th down…he’ll do it before the game is over.
Quick really looks good…be beat JJ easily on that 9 route.
Penalties still killin the good guys.
sanbaggerParticipantI understand he’s frustrated after losing that game, but AD is a leader of the D and he has to make better decisions.
Like it or not AD, because you are one of the best players on the team and possibly the entire league you have to show the team the right way to act.
sanbaggerParticipantDo you keep three CBs that are very good so you have one in case another gets injured? Or do you keep two good CBs with cheaper depth and allot your resources to somewhere else?
I suspect that if not for the trade, they would have drafted a corner this year.
I have no doubt about that. Fisher has stated he believes you should draft a DB in every draft.
Don’t forget, even after the trade they still took 2 TE’s and 2 receivers. Think offense was the focal point? Add that in the previous draft they drafted O-line.
I have noticed their strategy when drafting is to select an area, RB..TE..WR..etc, and hit that with a couple or more picks. I have had fun attempting to predict where they were targeting.
sanbaggerParticipantJust think…Hill is rated at the bottom of the list of CB’s and he replaced Sens….just how bad was Sens playing?
If Hill continues with this trend they’re just going to have to bring in the “next man up” to get them through until Tru is ready. Worst case is they rush Tru back.
Overall, Safeties have been a pleasant surprise and if they could get both Tru and EJ healthy at the same time the DB corps should be actually pretty good.
sanbaggerParticipantwell and one of the keys to running an effective cover 2 i believe is to be able to have a 4 man rush. that goes down significantly when you lose quinn. your edge rusher. as well as hayes on the other side and brockers in the middle.
I always thought that was the most important part of the cover 2…that and having good DT’s that can push the line like the old Tampa Bucs.
That’s why it’s a little frustrating for me…..when the DB’s do a good job it seems as though the QB has time to wait.
If they let Eli feel comfortable, he will pick them apart. They need to rattle him, and he can be rattled, and the only way to do that is hit him.
sanbaggerParticipantwe are seeing a completely different defensive scheme from the good guys this year than what we’ve seen in the last few years.
GW loves to pressure the QB and is known for inventive ways to bring extra rushers.
This year the Rams have been primarily a cover 2 and 4 rushers team…even from game 1 when everybody, with the exception of EJ, was healthy.
I think they started they year this way because EJ was out and Sens was starting and the safeties were a question mark….so they tried to give the DB’s a little room to not get beat over the top. Now that Tru is down, Sens has been canned…insert Hill…., and the safeties are playing better than hoped. But they are still trying to protect the DB’s playing bend but don’t break.
Excellent point. Last year with JJenks and TruJo at corner, they could do more things defensively. This year they have had to play more vanilla to protect their newbies in the secondary.
That’s the only explanation I can come up with.
I know they mush rush guys like Wilson but to not bring it against Stafford….they have to be trying to protect some area.
Coming in to the season one of my biggest concerns was the linebacking corps. I think they have done a good job…Tree and Barron are very visible and active and Forrest seems like an up and comer (I’m not saying the name Fletcher yet) but for a late round selection he has shown up.
sanbaggerParticipantwe are seeing a completely different defensive scheme from the good guys this year than what we’ve seen in the last few years.
GW loves to pressure the QB and is known for inventive ways to bring extra rushers.
This year the Rams have been primarily a cover 2 and 4 rushers team…even from game 1 when everybody, with the exception of EJ, was healthy.
I think they started they year this way because EJ was out and Sens was starting and the safeties were a question mark….so they tried to give the DB’s a little room to not get beat over the top. Now that Tru is down, Sens has been canned…insert Hill…., and the safeties are playing better than hoped. But they are still trying to protect the DB’s playing bend but don’t break.
October 20, 2016 at 8:44 am in reply to: Informal poll: will the Rams beat the GIANTS in London? #55638sanbaggerParticipantOBJ has only had 2 games eclipsing the 100 yard bench mark…of course he had a breakout in his last game against the Ravens. Baltimore hasn’t really impressed me all year so….
The Giants really don’t offer much of a running game so it will be all about stopping the Eli to OBJ train. If the good guys can get pressure on Manning, it would be nice to see a blitz or 2 but I think we’ll see more 4 man rushes and deep safeties to try and force OBJ underneath.Giants rank 29th in scoring in the Redzone so I see more of the bend but don’t break D.
The Giants rank 7th with TD’s allowed in the Redzone so it is imperative the good guuys get Gurley going.
MTL this isn’t gonna be a shootout…right up the Rams alley.
I see this as a lower scoring game with the good guys taking home the W
Rams 19 – Gmen 17
sanbaggerParticipantIDK…I just watched it 5 times stopping and starting it…I think it’s possible he makes it but there’s way too much penetration by the D.
Also, looked to me like Gurley intended on going straight the entire time….I didn’t see him looking left at all. Almost like he thought he was supposed to go straight and not that he adjusted on the fly.
Thanks for the vid that was great to look at and changed my original thinking to what I think now.
sanbaggerParticipantOkay. But. Do we have ourselves a theory? Yes? No? Thotz?
I absolutely believe there is credibility to this.
I think a lot of attention was given to the passing game (installing Grohs O) and getting Goff ready and maybe the running game was overlooked a touch.
I think TG should have been given more reps in pre-season as he was still learning the pro O.
I like where this O is going and believe when Goff is ready to step in he’s gonna have an O that is ready. Starting him day 1 made no sense…that was the right call by Fish, and not a surprise since he’s done it before.
The D is a different story, IMO. They really aren’t attacking the QB like they have. I’m seeing more cover 2 than I have seen from GW.
I think he is attempting to cover for areas…first EJ was down and Sensabough was starting outside Tru…well, we know he wasn’t hangin then when EJ comes back Tru get’s hurt. So…are the DB’s hurting this group? I say yes and that’s the reason GW is reluctant to throw the sink at the QB.
sanbaggerParticipantThanks for the kind words guys, it really means a lot. I lurked for several months before actually joining and making my first post.
One of your regulars extended an invitation to check this board out and I’m glad he did, that’s how I found out about this forum.
I don’t want to eat up too much time talking about me, but I have noticed this is a pretty tight knit community and a newbie like me couldn’t fly under the radar.
sanbaggerParticipantLooked like the receiver on the left was breaking open, IMO.
That was all on CK…he wasn’t rushed and they were playing deep. The leg hasn’t missed all year and in a dome he’s he’s good for 60 yds no problem.
We went for too much, IMO.
sanbaggerParticipantYes and no
Leaps and bounds with the passing game. CK and really the receivers are really finding a groove, I haven’t seen the receivers catch the ball this well since GSOT times. I really think they are buying in to the Groh passing scheme and it is showing. Groh may be working his way to an OC job in the future.
The running game still isn’t coming around. I thought against Detroit they looked good running the ball, for some reason the went away from the ball. Gurley was averaged 4.1 and should have been much better if not for a couple stuffs and a loss where the defender practically took the handoff from CK.
Still Detroit is ranked low defending the rush and very low in the redzone….4th and inches and stuffed is just bad…until they can win those they are not a good run blocking team and it shows by the way they are calling the pass now….what was the run/pass ratio?
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sanbaggerParticipantI’ve still only watched the first half, but i wanted to say something about Mr Britt — He’s arrived.
I swear, I’ve never thought he used his power/strength in the past. But in that first he finally looked like a guy that played to his size. And he did some subtle things too. Like the way he caught a long pass but didnt give away when the ball was coming to him. He just let it drop right in his breadbasket. Ala, Roberto Clemente.
Even Quick made a tough catch without bobbling the ball or fighting it. If these two keep gaining confidence, it will be fun to watch.
Who knows what Spruce and Cooper would add to that.
Granted the Lions suck on D, but still this is how players gain confidence
and we know Quick has confidence issues.Anyway think how far the offense has come sine the forty-niner game. Think about that.
I dont think they have ‘that’ far to go now. Just a ‘little’ more improvement in the run game and one fewer bonehead throws by Case per game… course now, the defense is Quinn-less and Tru-less….so there’s that.
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vDid you get to see Britt’s one handed catch? How about where he just flat muscled his way in to the end zone?
Those 2 receptions and the aftermath were very impressive
sanbaggerParticipantLast week on 4 and goal from the 4 they kicked the FG and that was criticized, this week they go for the TD from inside the 1 and that gets criticized. I think both times either choice was OK. Last week, I wanted a FG and this week I was in favor of going for the TD.
That’s true
And AS Zooey said, I don’t really have a problem with them going for it, it was the play selection I didn’t care for…oh well.
The only reason I was leaning to the 3 was it was going to half time and the Rams received the opening kick off.
They still had a shot to win with the ball and 6 minutes to play and fizzled out. I thought that should have been Gurley time. 14 rushes for TG is not the Rams game. I said in an earlier post they couldn’t get in to a shoot out with Detroit…that’s playing their game.
sanbaggerParticipantIt’s a tupsy-turvey season.
They were supposed to be a running team with Gurley, win with defense, and Keenum was just supposed to be a decent game manager…they didn’t have the receivers anyway.
Well the receivers are the best they’ve been since…jeez how long? 2006? Including Tavon, but especially Quick and Britt.
Keenum keeps them in games yes with smart game management but also a very good long game.
Gurley can’t get going (though he’s the best receiving RB outside of Faulk…since, forever)
And without Quinn and Johnson, the D can’t keep them in games.
As far as the D goes…they really aren’t blitzing much at all. I know GW likes to pressure the QB so I’m wondering if they have concerns with the DB’s and this has been going on all year including when Tru was out there.
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