29 total false starts in 10 years???? that will be huge upgrade in and of itself.

On paper, I really like the addition…it was time for a different spot for GRob. I still think GRob can be a good player, just LOT wasn’t it at this time.

I absolutely believe it’s a collaborative deal and there isn’t a King of war room.

Where I think the whole “I have the final say” thing comes in to play is whether or not to trade up or down. Somebody has to make that choice, and usually they have a particular guy or 2 in mind, and the last word guy has to decide to sit or trade.

We watched Fisher drop back and end up missing on the guy he wanted…that was completely his call at the end of the day….now all parties could be on board, but the buck still stops with him then and Snead now.

Oh, I also completely agree that differences of opinion come up with regards to individual interpretation.

Good post Zn, I enjoyed the read.

Here goes the local broken record….they need a Center

I’m OK with a stop gap, but still feel they need to invest a higher draft pick for a snapper.

InvaderRam wrote:

thinking about it and thinking about it.

it’d be hard for this regime not to go offense with their first pick. they’ve invested so much already in giving goff the best possible chance of success. from coaching hires to free agency. but i don’t think there’s a center worth taking that early. maybe in the third round with a stopgap center to be signed in free agency.

i think it comes down to tight end because it fits need and this is a loaded class. it will most likely be engram if he’s available. if not then someone like bucky hodges. the advantage of guys like these is they could probably be lined up like wide receivers in certain instances. shoot i’ve read that hodges was used almost exclusively at wide receiver last season. huge red zone targets too for goff.

I’m of the same thinking. Since you have proved yourself as a Kreskin stand in, I will say…good post.

I liked the idea of Groy, I’m not sold on this one. If they are gonna go older and very short term, why not kick the tires on Mangold?

Then of course they are gonna have to draft the center of the future…Elfein and Pocic top the lists and one could MTL be had in the 3rd.

zn wrote:

I didn’t read it that way. I read it as naming 2 separate and distinct things. The team as a group were not as involved or committed (and that has been directly said about Gurley) and as a result their performance suffered.

To me committed means buying in the coaches scheme. If the players aren’t buying in it’s hard for them to get motivated.

I guess you could look at it as they half-assed because they weren’t committed individually but it jumped out at me that he meant committed to the overall game plan.

zn wrote:

But notice he didn’t say the SCHEME was the biggest problem. He named 2 things–

Yea, but….he said scheme and the a lack of commitment. I read that as pretty apparent they didn’t have confidence in the scheme and didn’t commit…..leading it to scheme as the primary issue.

You may have several symptoms but the only way to cure the illness is to get a correct diagnosis and treatment, then all the symptoms go away.

wv wrote:

Well, i like BIG strong, power, Olines, myself.
I dont like them quick, little, rascally-smart, leg-whipping Olines.

No-sir, I like big ugly monster Olines. Like the ‘Mou
ntain’ and the ‘Hound’ on Game of Thrones.

So, bring it on.

w
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Don’t know about Game of Thrones, but I can get on board with this kind of thinking.

p.s. I don’t watch GOT…I know, I’ve heard about it from friends…just doesn’t interest me. I’m either watching sports, talking about sports, or reading a book….oh, I like murder mysteries as well.

InvaderRam wrote:

ok. now i’m guessing tight end or defensive back in the second round.

Just saw a mock that had Ross available at 37….I would take him.

I’m a known O-line guy, but at 37 they may have dip their feet in that DB pool….they could take a swim if they like.

It really looks like the Rams are addressing all the needs prior to the draft so they aren’t drafting for need.

They signed Groy to an offer and reports are they are talking with Jarvis Jones to fill that OLBer position that is currently a big question mark.

Safety is still a hole but KWebb can possibly step in, although I am sure they are gonna draft a DB or 2 or 3…maybe they use all picks on DB’s.

I would like to see a center in FA….even though I want Elfein, I would like to see them bring some more vet leadership to the line for the short term.

I’m not overly concerned with corner as the draft is deep and they still have a very young group already in the fold.

I want them to resign Benny and GZ

Good thread

What would it take? Think 2.5 mil could get it done? He’s a back-up in Buffalo and maybe they don’t want to go the extra 700K.

If they could get him for around 2.5 for 3 years with 5 mil guaranteed, that would be a relatively cheap signing for a young guy with low mileage and they could still draft a Center….Hmm who could we (I) want.

I’m not opposed to this.

Just don’t think that’s the spot for him. I think Hav was struggling with the injury last year, hence the drop off. I think GRob would be a mauler at guard.

InvaderRam wrote:

also maybe sanbagger gets his wish and elfein becomes a target with that second rounder

He didn’t have a great combine and may still be available in the 3rd or even the 4th.

I would love for them to pay Mangold and draft Elfein in the 3rd.

zn wrote:

This is my hope:

link: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/free-agent-top-100-salary-ranges/

24. WR Pierre Garcon (30) — $8.5-10.5 million/year – Run-after-catch specialist has become one of the NFL’s best route runners. Great hands: Has dropped only 8-of-330 targets (2.4%) over the last three years.

The guy can play and 30 isn’t over the hill by any means…but….

He’s gonna want 3 years minimum, he knows this is his last shot at making the bigger type dollars…so I figure he’s gonna want 3 years 30 mil- 20 mil guaranteed.

The Rams already inked Tru to 17 mil, they can’t afford too many of the 10 mil guys…and I still think they want a top tier type on the O-line with a couple of the middle tier (5-7 mil) to supplement.

The receiving corps is young, not really bad…and they have guys coming off the IR which have hands. I think Woods is a perfect complement….he’s not a #1 but then neither is Garcon.

I would love to have Garcon on the team and maybe they can free up the space to get him and some of the guys I want by subtracting (Sneads words) some guys I wouldn’t mind getting axed….so, maybe we get the best of both worlds (I love Vanhalen).

Good to see you put down who you’re hoping for, and I really like the new Huddle pic…just noticed it today, not sure how long it’s been up.