zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

The QB has to learn an entire new language.

Yes and he’s still playing like a struggling rookie. That’s even with the fact that no one becomes a qb in the first place unless they are mentally set up to learn a system. AND the issue is unit cohesion anyway. Not everyone will be on the same page. I remember Saffold talking about learning a new system in 2011. It puts hesitation into everything. Heck Keenum was talking about this during the pre-season. It was new for him, too.

To be perfectly honest, I don’t get your forgetfulness on this. You can say other factors for you weigh more. But no one can just armchair into existence the idea that it’s easy for a team to learn an entirely new system. This has come up before, in spades, with extensive backing from articles and player comments and so on. I think for example about the switch to the McD system in 2011. It is just simply not an easy process, and that’s especially the case now, when the new CBA limits practice time. None of this is new discussion.

It’s a factor. You decide if it’s a major one.

Goff was a completely different animal than the O-line…he had more than just verbiage to overcome.

The Rams did install new concepts this year. When Groh came on board to revamp the passing game it also involved changing blocking concepts and that could definitely be affecting the play of the line.

However….As Zooey said, we are 12 weeks in now and this should be coming together and I would agree with that. Personally I’m leaning towards this one isn’t about the X’s and O’s but we need to think about the Joes.

nittany ram wrote:

the playcalling and overall strategy will reflect his style – which is to use the run to set up play action

That sounds like a Norv Turner offense to me…strive for run/pass ratio of 50/50.

I actually think Turner would be a good fit with Fisher and wanted them to hire him when Cleveland let him go.

BTW…For the “I love Mike Martz” guys…Martz was an assistant coach under Turner.

Hekker is a weapon no doubt about it…but to call a punter our best weapon, I think is a stretch.

I wouldn’t call Goff our best weapon on O at this point either. I think the best weapon on O is Gurley and every team that faces the Rams realizes they have to neutralize Gurley and they will win the game.

I know Gurley has been a non factor this year, but teams are game planning to stop him and by not really having any respect for the passing game, they can shut down the Rams run game.

I don’t think other teams are respecting the passing game because they know they can get pressure on the QB and he either throws short 3 step stuff all game or he gets bounced off the turf several times.

nittany ram wrote:

sanbagger wrote:

Can’t remember where, but I either read or heard a report that some of the Rams came out of halftime bickering with each other…did you happen to notice this?

No, I didn’t notice. Seeing the game live has its benefits (you can see how coverages develop, etc) but you miss out on the details. Plus it’s not much fun watching the game surrounded by the enemy. Overall I much prefer watching the game on TV.

However, I think I will make a pilgrimage to the new stadium when it opens to see a game at some point. Maybe a bunch of us from the board can get together at the new stadium for a ‘Huddlefest’ sometime.

OK…I talked to another guy that was there and he didn’t notice that either.

When they get the new stadium I think I’ll feel compelled to go…just don’t have that with the coliseum. I had a chance to go the Miami game and decided to watch from my cozy room.

When I read that article I thought I was reading another poster on a website that really just wants Fisher gone.

I really didn’t read anything that someone “in the know” would report just some guy ranting is all I got out of it.

I think Fish is for sure going to be here but will have to EF Hutton his way to 2018.

zn wrote:

Compact delivery, good arm not a gun. Throws intermediate pass well. Feet–in between frenetic and pro quick. Rams may have most unathletic OL in the league and the Saints went after Goff AND the OL. This game JG erratic with ball placement…made some great throws, but at times was scattershot.

I agree with all of that

This post had to have been made after Green was injured and before the season started.

What a great call by this poster.

I was a little crushed when Green went down, he was having a fantastic pre-season and that team was loaded….then Warner exploded on the scene…fun time for a Rams fan.

nittany ram wrote:

sanbagger wrote:

IDK…to me Oakland is Raider land..

Oh believe me, wv knows that, sanbagger.

As a long time 49’ers fan, wv is well aware of Oakland’s love of the Raiders.

And with his beloved team 1-10 and now 45 miles away in Santa Clara and the Raiders a Super Bowl contender, he senses the Frisco area switching their allegiance to the Silver and Black (note that I said ‘Frisco’. wv, like most San Franciscans, hates that. I get my digs in where I can).

That’s why he wants the Raiders to move. He knows putting an expansion team in Oakland will take a long time to approve. It will take longer still to field a winner. In the meantime local support will undoubtedly swing back to the 9’ers. Unlike the Raiders, an expansion team won’t be a threat to the 9’ers’ sovereignty in the bay area.

So, believe me, he cares little about fair play or justice for other cities that lost their team. He cares only about one thing, the 9’ers maintaining their hold over the greater San Francisco/Oakland/San Jose/Santa Clara metroplex.

Ahh…secret undertones…thanks for turning on the light.

You know, just last week when I learned there wasn’t a Santa Clause I thought I had unlocked the mysteries of the universe…now…mind blown.

wv wrote:

I generally agree, but I am disappointed in Tavon’ lack of production on punt returns this year. I was hoping for a better year on special teams.

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He’s had a couple of good returns that have been called back due to the red flag syndrome. I guess if your returner is a bit of a jitterbug that happens.

Part of TA’s thing on returns is he’s lookin to break it vice run North and South and a cloud dust at 6 yards. He has to know there are times when that’s the best option, and I think he’s done better at that.

The big thing for me is do not fair catch the ball at the 5 yard line…I’m OK with the 10 now but let’s take our chances from the 5.

I still wouldn’t rule out Spanos getting a deal done to refurbish Mission Valley. He still owes 50 mil from a previous upgrade and as the article stated would owe 650 mil for a relocation fee.

Everybody knew the downtown proposal was gonna get shot down and THIS IS MY SPECULATION…..he could have been leveraging to get a deal done to fix MV. I’ve been to that stadium and didn’t think it was anywhere near being considered a dump. They have a very loyal fanbase and the support of all the casinos in the area.

I’m just sayin it isn’t a done deal yet and with January comin fast Spanos had to make his intentions known.

I don’t know much about this young man, but if he comes from Kutztown I’m all for getting him in.

I was wondering why the Rams got a flag on that play. Was watching the game at my neighbors house, and his game had the volume up. He has a man cave and we have 5 games going at a time….and since he is the owner of the cave he gets priority…so I watch and listen to a lot of Browns games.

Zooey wrote:

Okay, well, if you hate the Rams so much, why don’t you just move to Seattle?

Now that just hurts…well, at least you didn’t tell me to move to San Fran cause then I would have to seek you out.

Goff doesn’t have the cred yet to be considered a leader…but, I tell ya, the way he was directing traffic in the last game, it won’t be long.

Something about this guy just gets me wanting to see more.

At this point I’m rather indifferent as to whether he stays or goes. On the one hand I see Jacks point, 5 losing seasons in a row is enough time to have your players and system installed.

On the other hand I really like a lot of the pieces in place including the additions of Weinke and Groh and GW at DC. Also, and most importantly, I don’t want to see a revolving door of Head Coaches and OC’s much like what happened to Bradford…which I believe hampered his development.

So I guess I’m good to go however it unfolds.