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OzonerangerParticipant
Props to the Falcons. They had a good game plan, got a couple of breaks and didn’t turn the ball over. Did I mention they had a ridiculous time of possession advantage heading into the 4th?
Still, the future looks bright for a team that hasn’t had a number 1 pick in two years. They’ll be back with another title next year. And, no I don’t see SF as a threat until 2019 at least. They opened losing 9 straight for a reason.
December 26, 2017 at 3:54 pm in reply to: Should the Rams rest their starters against the 9ers? #79577OzonerangerParticipantNiner fans are absolutely going bonkers over Garoppolo. So they’re looking at Sunday’s game as their own little Super Bowl and as a measuring stick of the teams progress.
Seen it before.
I really can’t see Gurley playing more than a half at most. He’s too valuable. Same with Donald. And I do see the backups in there by the 4th. It’s a meaningless game, although as a Ram fan I want them the beat SF like a drum.
OzonerangerParticipantIf Fassel likes Fickken, I like Fickken.
I just hope I don’t blurt out, “Fuckin Fickken!” during the game Sunday. That would pretty much mean it’s doomsday.
OzonerangerParticipantHope all is well with you, too, Billy.
That’s a good question. I think the definition of median is half above and half below. I was a tad confused by the context, too. The incomes the authors listed were high, but taxes were higher for a decade or so too.
That said, I have to disagree with you on the wage stagnation. Our economy is way different from 73. Since then, we’ve gone from manufacturing economy to a service and “intellectual” one. Big difference. I’m not sure where you live, but here in Cali (Metro areas) wages are off the charts. I know a few millennials that are pulling in $150k a few years out of college (yeah, STEM grads). Those Mils are 5%ters.
I noted after I posted this that the piece is 20 years old. Nevertheless, the concepts these people apply to their financial goals are time tested and work today. Me and my wife applied them with success for the duration of our marriage. And I still do today. We lived frugally, well within our means, invested heavily and put our kids through university. Really, it does work. I’m pretty well off, but I still pack a sandwich or leftovers for lunch everyday. I rarely eat out. My watch is 22 years old and cost $75 on a cruise ship. And I have two tailored suits. I consider myself secure, not wealthy.
In the end, to me, managing money is a pain in the ass, but necessary. I view it strictly as security. I don’t want to be a burden on my kids when I’m old and infirm. So I work to build wealth *for them*. After all, our generation, and those before have fucked them over.
Take care, bro…
OzonerangerParticipantMy God, almost all of you sound like the French General Staff after Dunkirk. Surrender monkeys!
Rams, 51-7.
Yeah, I’m off my meds.
OzonerangerParticipantWhat we have here is -not- a failure to communicate.
OzonerangerParticipantIt’s one game at a time. Forget Philly. Forget Seattle. It’s all about the Cardinals. I think this team knows this after a tough loss in Minnesota.
OzonerangerParticipantI see the Saints as a shootout. The Woods injury concerns me, though. Time for Austin, Reynolds and Thomas to step up if Woods can’t go.
This should be a fun game to watch. Glad it’s at home.
OzonerangerParticipant$20 million airport, $10 control tower…
OzonerangerParticipantI never used Google. I will try this Ecosia. I use Yahoo, but I think somebody bought them out.
But, I am suspicious of the planting trees thing.
Verizon bought out Yahoo, although there’s still some fallout from their latest breach.
I use Google, but more and more DuckDuckGo…unlike most SEs, DDG doesn’t track users…
November 1, 2017 at 12:31 pm in reply to: With two weeks to prepare, can Rams challenge the Giants? #76730OzonerangerParticipant5-2 vs 1-6. Scoring isn’t even close. LA should have this wrapped up by the end of the 3rd. However, this team isn’t used to winning. Things could go awry. So I’ll say 31-16, Rams.
Interesting stat…Giants have given up a TD to the TE in every game this year. That works nicely for McVey’s scheme.
OzonerangerParticipantBy the way, my Ancestry results are back and I’m mostly British. The Rams don’t dare lose this in my homeland.
I dare say I will have a bit of the collywobbles on Sunday. (That’s British for queasy stomach for all you Yanks).
Welcome to the tribe. My results were 65% Brit. Mostly Scot, really. I got 18% German-French, 12% Norwegian and 4% Irish, which explains my drinking problem.
OzonerangerParticipantWhen I started living alone again, I briefly considered buying a hand gun. Briefly as in about 30 seconds. I’ve fired weapons from time to time and it really is a lot of fun. However, I’d rather be gunned down by an armed intruder than have one of my grandchildren hurt by a weapon I may own. That’s good enough for me.
So I know many gun owners and I can see why many of them do. They may live out in the sticks, or they hunt. Or they may be collectors. But with some, I find it disturbing when they react with almost religious fervor at the mere hint of ownership restrictions. It boils down to this…incrementalism. They fear a little gun control here and there will lead to the confiscation of their weapons.
Well, I’m tired of waking up, turning on the TV and muttering, “Fuck. Again? Tired of it. I so feel for those lost and those left behind to deal with this madness. And I know grief up close and personal.
It time to ban military style weapons. No civilian should own one. And maybe handguns, too.
OzonerangerParticipantStop the run, lay the pressure on Wilson. He’s a damn fine QB. But really, stop the run.
On offense, Gurley. And I’ll out on a limb and predict the tight ends have a huge day.
Rams 31-21.
OzonerangerParticipantI wish the NFL would flex this game to Sunday night. This looks like a good one.
Limit the turnovers and the Rams can take this game. And that be a statement. What concerns me is that Oline against the Rams struggling 3-4. Phillips needs to come up with gameplan of his life…
No official prediction. My crystal ball is too cloudy.
OzonerangerParticipantGreetings, Comrades!
Are beers $12 here? The world wonders…
OzonerangerParticipantDuring the second half, the announcers were commenting the the Rams coaches “were going ballistic” on the Refs…They said it twice…
Anyone have an explanation for what happened?
OzonerangerParticipantGame day chat? Sounds good to me.
OzonerangerParticipantHey, Ozone,
Hope all is well.
We disagree about antifa, but that probably doesn’t surprise you. I see them as less than a fraction of a fraction of the threat posed by right-wing extremists. And labeling them a domestic terrorist group, IMO, is going waaay over the line into a police state action. The vast majority of antifa is non-violent, and those among them who do engage in violence typically act defensively. They saved lived in C’ville. A lot of them. That was attested to by clergy who were demonstrating peacefully there. And the numbers who do engage in offensive violence? Dozens. Not hundreds. But they get all the media attention so it looks like all of antifa is that way.
I’m also a bit confused by your distinction between the alt-right being out in the open but antifa being underground. I’m not seeing that.
Personally, I wish the following were the case:
1. No city, locality or state would allow marchers to be armed. Period. No guns, if you’re going to march in public or assemble on public lands. Cuz guns are the real threat to “free speech,” and they’re intended as such. No city, locality or state should grant ANY group a permit if they’re going to carry guns, and all localities should have the right to take them away if marchers ignore this. That used to be the way we did things in America, btw, even in the Wild Wild West, ironically. Leave them thar guns at the edge of town, pardner, etc.
2. When the alt-right marches, they should be completely ignored by everyone else. As long as they don’t engage in violence toward others, ignore them. Don’t counter-demonstrate near them. Work things out with city, local, state or federal “authorities” to have peaceful assemblies on a different day or far away from right-wing lunatics, if that’s what you want to do. No direct confrontations unless it’s in self-defense. To me, it serves no purpose and it’s pretty obvious how dangerous it’s becoming.
For starters . . . .
Hey, Billy-
Antifa has a violent past in the country going back to the 90’s. Remember the G8 meetings? And they are underground- the covered faces, how they organize- Twitter, other social media (and contrary to popular belief, they do have a leadership model). The alt right? I don’t see them as a threat at all. I mean, historically, violence has been a hallmark of the left here (two dead presidents, Weathermen, SDS, Black Panthers) and in Europe (Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhoff, Action Directe). Here.
http://time.com/4501670/bombings-of-america-burrough/
Meanwhile, the Alt right forms their little militias, get infiltrated and monitored. And the Klan> The dumbshits in the pointy hats haven’t done much in decades, save for the odd Lone-wolf nutjob.
In any case, I like your starters. I completely agree for the safety of all.
OzonerangerParticipantI’ll chime in here.
I’m 57 years old. And I’ve never met an avowed white supremacist who was part of an organized movement. Sure, I’ve met more than a few racist white people (“I’m not prejudiced, but”…Yeah, you are). But I’ve met plenty of racist POC, too. To me, it’s a sick human condition borne of, on the white side, fear of diversity and on other, resentment and anger over historical injustices. And a whole lot of ignorance all the way around.
I watched Charlottesville and seethed at the tiki-torch march while 200 fucking loons chanted anti-semitic filth. See, my girlfriend is Jewish. And I’ve never understood anti-antisemitism, even when it was explained to me by a person with a deep background in Jewish studies. That said, I put it in perspective…it was 200 loons, not 2000, 20,000 or 200,000. Out of a population of 310 million in the country. But as ugly as it was, they had every right to march and demonstrate. At the very least, they can be watched as long as they’re out in the open.
Which brings us to Antifa which -is- underground..I live in San Jose and saw the violence downtown at the infamous Trump rally where his supporters were spat on, egged and assaulted while the cops sat back and watched. It was sick and chilling. But Antifa wasn’t involved…most of the troublemakers were -allegedly- bussed in by the SEIU labor union…Up in Berkeley, that is/was another story. Antifa marched in – like Nazis- intent on cracking heads and breaking shit. Just for the sake of cracking heads, breaking shit and silencing by force any message they didn’t like (the Milo riot). Again, the cops stood by while this all happened, evading the fireworks shot at them in order to avoid “escalation.” It was chilling to watch it all unfold.These Antifa types are what they profess to hate- fascists. And I think they should labeled as a domestic terrorist organization or at least use Gang suppression laws to deal with what I believe is a true threat to our freedoms, particularly the FA. I was pleased to see so many Antifas charged with Felony Rioting in Washington during the inauguration and also the mounting arrests here and in Portland (Yvette Felarca, Bike-Lock Professor, etc) To me, this is serious shit and has to be dealt with before 100 people are killed at one of their riots…
Now I know what’s coming…what about the right-wingers who came just to rumble with communists and anarchists? Arrest them, too. All these fuckers are a threat to us all, left, middle or right…
OzonerangerParticipantGreetings Comrades!
Thought I’d drop in. It was nice to sit down, quaff a few and just enjoy a football game for the first time in years…Maybe the Raiders wipeout. It was even more fun experiencing what opposing fans have done to us…laugh at the ineptitude of the other team.
What I liked…
The offensive scheme. I guess we can forever strip away Jeff Fisher’s Offensive Genius label. See what motion and play action can do? Cooper and Watkins do make a difference, but still.
Goff. Handling the scheme. Dude looked like nothing last year. Decisive, touch balls and he threw some absolute lasers yesterday.
Holy, shit…discipline on defense…I don’t recall any really stupid penalties on the defensive side, which we could count on at least two or three per game in the Fisher era.
Hekker…HEKKER! Dude is the leagues ST Donald.
What I didn’t like…
Even with the new scheme, they’re still struggling with how to utilized Tavon…perhaps it IS him as a route runner.
Gurley…I read an “experts” critique on the line and the run strategy…this guy points out Gurley is way better when hitting the line outside the guards and tackles, not inside which just never seemed to work. I think there’s something to this.
That sequence after the fumble recovery when the line rattled off a string of false-start and holding penalties. We gotta fix that.
That’s about all I have. I cannot wait for Washington, a much sterner test. But that was fun to watch.
May 22, 2017 at 6:16 pm in reply to: election-night plot to massacre Muslim refugees in Kansas #69151OzonerangerParticipantI live a few miles from Joe. Over the years, I’ve had friends who collected weapons- mainly hunters. But I know of no one with a full-on arsenal. Well, maybe my neighbor, who is ex-military. Myself, I considered purchasing a handgun after I became widowed. Living alone and all that. Then two things occurred to me. 1. I live in one of the safest cities in the US. My neighborhood is boring to the point of actually turning a watching as a police car cruised up the street. Why would I need one? 2. I did some research on gun control while in school. What I found was legal gun owners were 19 times more likely to injure or kill someone- themselves or others- by accident, suicide or murder- in their own homes than those who don’t arm up. And I have grandbabies now, so it’s just not an option. One thing, though….shooting IS a hoot.
2nd comment- I’ve lived in NoCal my entire life and have never met any Klan types or those individuals with relatives in the KKK.
I guess I live a very sheltered life.
Edit: I can honestly say that if I lived in the sticks, say California gold rush country I would own firearms, most likely a Glock and a shotgun. Police response times can be very long in those areas.
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February 22, 2017 at 8:03 pm in reply to: Iceland's president wants to ban pineapple on pizza #65537OzonerangerParticipantI would, too. And throw in anchovies.
OzonerangerParticipantBarron inside? He’ll get mauled. Sorry, but I’m dubious. He’s undersized. Quinn? He can be a Aldon Smith with the right guy inside of him on the line.
Shit. How do the Patriots do it? System Plug N Play…
OzonerangerParticipantIt goes without saying, but the above (economic critique) is directed at public figures, not any posters. Mostly talking about Republicans in Congress and/or the White House when that happens . . . along with right-wing pundits, etc.
No penalty, no foul, dude.
OzonerangerParticipantThis is all I needed to know about Bernie.
“It makes no sense that students and their parents pay higher interest rates for college than they pay for car loans or housing mortgages.”
— Sanders, post on Twitter, Oct. 15, 2015
Clueless. Does he know the correlation between risk and lending in banking?
Ozone,
Remember, those student loans are secured by the Federal government, so they hold less risk than car and home loans. But even if we set that aside, I’m sure Sanders knows the way the competitive laws of motion work in capitalist economics, and that risk is a major factor, as is the need for a tangible, recoverable asset. He knows this.
He was objecting to the immorality of this. He was talking in terms of social justice, not strict Econ101. As in, it shouldn’t be the case that something as vital for kids as a college education generates a higher loan percentage than a car or a home. Education shouldn’t be a commodity, or reified, etc.
Also, I know conservative media had a field day after his tweet, but no one should ever pay one second’s attention to right-wingers on economics to begin with. They actually believe slashing taxes for rich people “creates jobs” and brings in more revenue to the Treasury. Talk about economic illiteracy. And then to make it even worse, they call for slashing spending in the middle of a recession or depression.
If right-wingers were ever allowed to implement their full economic agenda, without restraints, the capitalist system would collapse and we’d have blood in the streets. Now, as mentioned, I definitely want capitalism to die, but I don’t want it to die that way, with all of that suffering. We need to peacefully vote it out of existence instead.
In short, Ozone, I think you’re misreading Bernie’s tweet.
No, Billy, I don’t think I am. I mean, the tweet was Trumpian. Haha!
It’s pretty basic in any economy…the higher the risk, the higher the interest rate. I mean, look at the payday loans (which should be abolished, IMO)…Houses and cars are collateral. So if you don’t pay it back, which is immoral under most circumstances, you lose the house or the car.
Another factor…parental income is always part of the equation. Up to age 24. That’s part of the FAFSA application process. I think you know that there are public and private student loans. And correct me if I’m wrong, but those secured by the Feds can’t be discharged through bankruptcy.
This may surprise you, but I’m all for increasing taxes on the rich (a million and up on income unless it’s a small-medium family biz. They can easily handle it. I’m also for slashing taxes on the middle class if not anything more than spending power. Singles too. I started filing single last year and I got hammered pretty good. I’m not a guy that needs or wants a lot, but still…I’d contribute more to the economy if my tax rate was a bit less…what is it, 40% of the country is single? The downside is I’d be addicted to Amazon Prime.
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OzonerangerParticipantHappy Belated Birthday!
OzonerangerParticipantThis is all I needed to know about Bernie.
It makes no sense that students and their parents pay higher interest rates for college than they pay for car loans or housing mortgages.
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) October 15, 2015
Clueless. Does he know the correlation between risk and lending in banking?
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OzonerangerParticipantThing about Bernie? He lost. If the Dems really had moved to the left (as you say), he would have won, easily. But the Democratic Party made sure he didn’t, and the Media helped them to boot.
I’m also guessing you and I will disagree about this, but maybe not. Sanders didn’t even run that far to the left in his campaign — not by historical standards. I think he channeled FDR and his New Deal and updated it for 2017. Nothing to the left of that. As in, roughly “social democrat,” not “socialist,” which means replacing capitalism. Bernie never give a whiff of a hint of a remote suggestion of a future possibility of that.
(And I wish SOMEONE would!! :>)
FDR, in his day, split the difference between actual socialists, plus small “c” communists and the establishment, which was center-right. His New Deal was a “compromise,” though it’s likely that today’s right-wingers see him as “far left.” He was solidly center-left in his own time. He had to look waaaay to his left to find the “far left,” etc.
And Sanders couldn’t even win over the Democratic Party faithful with a return to FDR.
From where I sit, the Dems have moved steadily rightward for close to fifty years. The only area where they’ve moved to the left is on “social inclusion” issues. What some might call “identity politics.” That’s it. Everything else — war, the economy, empire, capitalism, the surveillance state, etc. etc. — it’s been steadily rightward.
FDR never wanted to replace capitalism. He wanted social justice. Then ironically, he locked up Japanese Americans.
Bernie was\is clueless. I think even to leftists like you. His sole argument was “free stuff,” essentially. Tuition, medical care, school lunches…even cars, maybe? To a kid facing $100k in student loans, I can see his allure. It cost me over $200k to put my daughters through school (tuition, housing, books, etc- they got jobs to pay for food and entertainment) …one public, one private. But that front end cost would have been on the back end in the form of crushing taxes for my household.
Let me ask the board…what if they capped student loans at $25K?
Edit- What the hell is a “small c communist”?
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OzonerangerParticipant“It’s amazing how people see things differently.”
When I started to read this thread, that’s exactly what I thought, too.
Perhaps I don’t really know what “left” really is. It’s quite clear to me that most of the posters here don’t really understand what “right” is. Or, rather, the mindset.
But…we get along. And that’s a good thing. 🙂
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