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ModeratorCoy Bacon – 1972
That image of Coy Bacon is from a stamp in the “NFL Action 72” stamp book. You got some stamps when you purchased gasoline at Sunoco stations. Thanks to my dad and one of his friends I have the complete collection.
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ModeratorI give him an “incomplete” until the end of the season. I think final grades should be withheld until the end of a coach’s third season.
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ModeratorMackeyser wrote:
should be.We were less than 50 yds from it when it happened. It looked GRUESOME. I didn’t want to watch it on the jumbotron, but I did. I thought we lost him for the year. Bucs fans around us patted me on the shoulder and actually commiserated with me. “First Bradford and now Austin. It’s not right”
Stuff like that. So, only two games or really more like 1 game with the bye? Yeah, I’ll take that.
I just watched the play on Rewind and I winced at the
Route. I dont particularly want Tavon to be
running comeback routes surrounded by three defenders,
while a ball is floated to him.I have a feeling Martz would use more vertical routes
with Tavon. I know I would. They sure did at WVU.w
vI agree completely. There are better ways to use Tavon that take better advantage of his skill set while protecting his body.
Unfortunately, you can only protect him so much. This is a violent game and he is a little man.
I fear his career will be an injury-filled one.
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ModeratorYeah, I think Hill would be better coming off the Bemch.
Figuring out who should start is gonna be a tough decision for Fisher.
I bet it involves a lot of algebra.
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ModeratorIf Hill plays I’d say the odds are 50 – 50.
If he can’t, I’ll say the odds drop to 27.3 – 72.7 against the Rams winning.
Wait, strike that. Make it 27.4 – 72.6 against. Yeah, that makes more sense.
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ModeratorI took some advice from Steve Savard who is a lot brighter than I gave him credit for. He said go back and watch it again. This time with no unrealistic expectations it didn’t look near as bad.There is some good stuff there. I didn’t mind Shotty’s play calling but the design of the TA plays still bother me.Both Gaines and Donald are going to be good to great.TJ is looking good.Quick is on his way. Hill was trying to get rid of the ball and didn’t have the legs to get it there.Up until that point he was doing good. The D held AP in check and how do you practice for stopping Patterson? Obviously you have to wrap up and hold on your not going to throw him down with arm tackles but the dude is a freakish runner who will continue to scorch many teams this year.
I agree with you for the most part. The Rams were in the game as long as Hill was under center. My only caveat is that it shouldn’t have been a “tough close game”. The Rams should have dominated a team like the Vikings at home. They shouldn’t have struggled against the Vikings while Hill was in the game if they are truly improving under Snisher. I think that is a valid criticism,
But I certainly don’t buy into Bernie’s reactionary, over-the-top Chicken Little act.
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September 9, 2014 at 10:27 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6758nittany ram
Moderator<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
wv wrote:Domestic violence is full of strange, human, currents.
Think about the fact that the lady
is going to marry him…and think about
why that would be…etc.That is precisely what I was going to post! She already married him! And no one (except for your post here) says anything about that. How can she, her family and friends, anyone close to this woman think this is okay? Of course it is going to happen again no matter how desperately he tries to convince her it won’t. Now that he’s out of work the violence may escalate. I know domestic violence is a very complicated issue but my heart just breaks for these women who want to believe that he’ll change, or think it’s their fault or that they deserve this, etc. That upsets me more than anything.
Yeah, but we have to take care that we don’t allow questions like “why would she marry a guy that beats her?” to detract from the real issue, which is the violent act itself (not saying you or wv do this, I’m just talkin’ here 🙂 ) A lot of people sorta dismiss the violence after learning that the abused person plans to stay with their abuser. There are a whole slew of psychological reasons why victims of abuse stay with and even defend their abusers, but that doesn’t somehow mitigate or lessen the impact of the violence. It’s just another aspect of this that needs further study.
I mean, it would be just as valid to ask the abuser why he stays with someone who makes him lose his control and violently lash out.
September 9, 2014 at 9:48 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6751nittany ram
Moderator<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>nittany ram wrote:</div>
Covering up brain injury info, bounty gate and now this…the NFL is making Haliburton, Big Tobacco and BP look good.The difference being, public disapproval COULD lead to Goddell being replaced and at least a portion of a change in the culture.
Those other corporations? Yeah good luck.
We complain that the NFL is too corporate.
The actual corporations think it’s not corporate ENOUGH.
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Yeah, at least public opinion can have some impact on NFL policy.
But even if Goodell takes the fall for his role in all of this, the ultimate responsibility rests with the owners. Goodell is their representative. They will remain untouched by the fallout though.
September 9, 2014 at 9:32 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6749nittany ram
ModeratorJason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
If TMZ can prove NFL in fact had opportunity to view tapes, and declined, then that’s a potential game changer. Credibility in balanceI think Goodell is toast if TMZ can demonstrate that. He should have been gone a long time ago.
Covering up brain injury info, bounty gate and now this…the NFL is making Haliburton, Big Tobacco and BP look good.
September 9, 2014 at 8:09 am in reply to: Ray Rice suspended cut by Ravens, Suspended indefinitely by NFL #6731nittany ram
ModeratorRead somewhere that the CFL has joined the NFL in the banning of Ray Rice.
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Moderatornittany ram wrote:
Penalties continue to be a problem and now that we’re in the third year I think we should just resign ourselves to the idea that that’s the way it’s gonna be.I don’t think they are a huge priority for Fisher. I mean, sure he’d rather not have them, but he doesn’t put the importance on them some other coaches would. He always sorta has a nonchalant demeanor when he’s asked about them. Sorta like ‘yeah, we’ll take a look at that…” A coach like DV would have been more adamant when asked about that.
Fisher is part of the Buddy Ryan coaching tree. I could be wrong but it seems to me his teams were heavily penalized too. Like Ryan, I bet Fisher desires his teams to play with a lot of emotion and recklessness. He’s probably prepared to sacrifice some discipline to achieve that.
The 7 most penalized teams last year were
Seattle 152
Denver 132
St.Louis 123
Tampa Bay 121
San Francisco 117
Oakland 116
Baltimore 112
A lot of good teams on that list, including perhaps the three best from last season. Yeah, reporters that continually ask Fisher about the excessive penalties his team commits should stop wasting their breath. They are not a priority for him and he’s just going to pay it lip service. He’s trying to build a team in the mold of the 9’ers and Seahawks (and the 85 Bears and Ryan’s Eagles). He’ll sacrifice discipline to achieve that. His players trash talk and try to intimidate. They play through the whistle. That’s what he wants.
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ModeratorJim Thomas @jthom1 6m
How bad was Sunday’s 34-6 Rams loss to Vikings? It matches the worst margin of defeat for Rams in home opener SINCE 1937!nittany ram
ModeratorPenalties continue to be a problem and now that we’re in the third year I think we should just resign ourselves to the idea that that’s the way it’s gonna be.
I don’t think they are a huge priority for Fisher. I mean, sure he’d rather not have them, but he doesn’t put the importance on them some other coaches would. He always sorta has a nonchalant demeanor when he’s asked about them. Sorta like ‘yeah, we’ll take a look at that…” A coach like DV would have been more adamant when asked about that.
Fisher is part of the Buddy Ryan coaching tree. I could be wrong but it seems to me his teams were heavily penalized too. Like Ryan, I bet Fisher desires his teams to play with a lot of emotion and recklessness. He’s probably prepared to sacrifice some discipline to achieve that.
September 7, 2014 at 5:14 pm in reply to: Gordon, Thomas, Wagoner, Karraker, etc. on the Vikes game #6438nittany ram
ModeratorRams embarrassed by Vikings 34-6
By Jim Thomas
If you wanted to pick the worst possible way to open a season, it would be difficult to top the performance put on by the Rams Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.
They committed silly penalties. Couldn’t stop the run. Got outplayed on special teams. And couldn’t really do anything on offense. Seven weeks of build-up led to one of the worst Rams season openers in years — an embarrassing 34-6 loss to Minnesota to open 2014.
Any time you start a season with your third-string quarterback in there to start the second half, you’re in trouble. Such was the case Sunday. Quarterback Sam Bradford obviously is out for the season with a knee injury. His replacement, Shaun Hill, was done by halftime with a thigh injury. So that left Austin Davis in charge when the Rams started the third quarter down 13-0.
For the most part, the defense did its part in the first half, keeping Adrian Peterson in check and making quarterback Matt Cassel throw the ball downfield at his own risk.
But the Rams’ offense was basically non-existent in the first half. Yes, Brian Quick established himself with several early catches, but he also took the Rams out of a scoring opportunity, being called for a facemask penalty for getting his hand in the grill of Vikings cornerback Captain Munnerlyn after a 21-yard catch.
The 15-yard penalty midway through the second quarter backed the Rams up to the Minnesota 46. They appeared to get the first down back a couple of plays later on a 14-yard catch by Chris Givens. But Givens was called for offensive pass interference, so the play was called back from what would’ve been the Minnesota 27 to the Rams’ 49.
The result was a punt.
Wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson was the Vikings’ top runner in the first quarter, doing his damage on the “jet” sweep, plays where the wide receiver goes in motion and then takes the handoff as he passes the quarterback in motion.
A 13-yard gain on a jet sweep by Patterson, coupled with a dubious roughing the passer call against Robert Quinn by referee Ed Hochuli helped the Vikings take a 3-0 lead on a 52-yard field goal by Blair Walsh.
The Rams missed a chance to tie the game on their second possession when Jeff Zuerlein’s 50-yard field goal sailed wide left with 1:09 to play in the first quarter.
Facing a fourth-and-1 from the Minnesota 31, Fisher opted for a field goal instead of going for it. Taking over at their 40 after the miss, the Vikings needed only one play to get in Walsh’s range — a 23-yard jet sweep by Patterson, who was aided by two missed tackles by the Rams on the play.
The result was a 46-yard field goal by Walsh and a 6-0 Minnesota lead 44 seconds into the second quarter. The Rams’ defense kept Minnesota in check for much of the second quarter, but after taking over at their 25 with 1:38 to go in the half, a scrambling Shaun Hill — running to his right — threw into double-coverage towards the right sideline.
Vikings cornerback Josh Robinson made an athletic, leaping interception, keeping his feet in-bounds as he came down.
Minnesota took over on the St. Louis 35 with 1:09 to play in the half. This time the Vikings didn’t settle for a field goal. On second-and-1 from the St. Louis 8, veteran Greg Jennings got behind rookie E.J. Gaines for a touchdown on a throw from Matt Cassel and a 13-0 lead with 21 seconds left in the half.
Austin Davis took over in the third quarter at quarterback, replacing starter Hill, who left with a thigh injury. Davis led the Rams to a 56-yard field goal drive, cutting the lead to 13-3. But the Rams had to punt after their second possession of the half.
Patterson applied a dagger on the very next play after the Rams’ punted. Lining up in the backfield, Patterson did his best Peterson impression by taking a handoff to the right, cutting back towards the middle and then zigging and zagging his way to the end zone for a 67-yard TD.
Rams defenders fell like bowling pins along the way. No less than five Rams had a chance to bring Patterson down on the play and whiffed on tackle attempts.
The Rams couldn’t recover from that, as feeble as their offense was Sunday. Davis had trouble getting the ball out quickly, and the Vikings’ front four could ignore the run and just head upfield in the direction of the quarterback.
A roughing the punter penalty by Chase Reynolds in the fourth quarter set up Minnesota for yet another touchdown, on a seven-yard pass from Cassel to tight end Kyle Rudolph, who beat free safety Rodney McLeod. That made it 27-3 Minnesota, with 6:27 to play.
But wait, it gets worse. The Rams were down near the red zone, threatening to finally reach the end zone, when safety Harrison Smith stepped in front of a Davis pass and returned an interception 81 yards for a TD. Davis led tight end Jared Cook on the play, but Cook settled in the middle, giving Smith the opportunity.
So with Smith’s “pick 6” it was 34-3 Vikings and hard to tell which was louder — boos from the Rams’ fans or shouts of “Let’s go Vikings” by the Minnesota faithful on hand.
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ModeratorI hesitantly say Rams win. Just as PA Ram claims to have a bad feeling about this game, so do I.
However, unlike PA Ram, I am a true fan of the Rams and actually hope that they win. I’m not on this message board pretending to be a fan in order to fulfill some hidden agenda beknownst only to myself.
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ModeratorI hate Sack City.
I like “Sack Louis”.
It’s reminiscent of the “Blitzburgh” nickname Pittsburgh used in the 90’s – early 00’s.
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Moderator”Obviously, we were the more physical team today, offensively and defensively. I saw supposedly some of the best players in the league not want to tackle Marshawn Lynch,” Seattle defensive end Michael Bennett said. ”Of course, nobody is going to say nothing about that, but I seen a lot of guys whiff on tackles that should have been 2-yard gains and they’re supposed to be the best.”
Funny how Bennett likes to run his mouth considering that at this point in the season, the Seahawks defense has given up more yards and points than every defense in the league with the exception of the Packers.
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ModeratorI concur.
Hmm, I wonder, and here me out … I wonder, possibly, if there’s some kind of double-standard in play here. You know, because he’s an owner. Just throwing it out there. I’m probably WAAAAAY off.
Yeah, right. Like being a rich white man get’s you any special privileges in this country. Dream on.
September 3, 2014 at 10:34 am in reply to: Considering what might be termed as questionable draft picks is Fisher in troubl #5945nittany ram
ModeratorI think Fisher is safe this year barring wholesale collapse. Whether or not Austin and Robinson work out there is no denying that Snisher has greatly improved the overall quality of the roster. And I expect both Austin and Robinson will be big contributors this season.
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ModeratorI think it will be Long, Joseph, Wells, Saffold, Barksdale.
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ModeratorOh right. I think Clemens probably knew the offense pretty well, but his limitations as a passer certainly limited what Schott could call.
September 3, 2014 at 8:51 am in reply to: ESPN's Power Rankings: No. 24 St. Louis Rams/Wagoner #5929nittany ram
ModeratorI love it. The league is underestimating us.
We’re poised to roflstomp the league in part because I really and truly think there will be teams and staffs that think like this. They’re human and part of these rankings are informed by interviewing league personnel and performing casual polling.
The idea that the Rams are thought of so casually is great for the Rams. It can take a full year for teams to really wrap their heads around that a team isn’t as weak as they thought…
Well, I can’t say for sure where the Rams truly belong in the power rankings…but there’s no f’n way there are 23 teams better than them. I think at worst they are an average team which would put them somewhere in the 14 – 18 range. I think they are a little better than that though.
You’re right though. It’s much better for the Rams to be under everyone’s radar right now. I think teams will not be ready for the defense they will see. Similar to how they were unprepared for Martz’s offense in 99.
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ModeratorBrian S: “I was very comfortable (against Cleveland) calling plays with Austin. And that’s probably the biggest compliment I can give a quarterback. As a play-caller, if you’re comfortable calling plays, and you don’t have to sit there and worry, ‘Oh, I can’t do this, I can’t do that,’ that’s the sign that there’s a lot of respect and trust.”
——————————————I wonder if he was thinking about anyone in particular
there?w
vYou mean like Sanchez? Maybe.
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ModeratorThanks for all the info
over the years,
rambill.w
vSo what are tying to say?
That Rambill is old?!
Rude.
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ModeratorI’m really interested to what Greg Williams unleashes this week.
September 2, 2014 at 10:10 am in reply to: State of the Rams as Week 1 arrives…reporters & commentators opining #5868nittany ram
ModeratorI can see victories on the road against Tampa Bay, Washington and San Diego. Given San Fran’s troubles, there’s no reason to think the Rams can’t beat them in St Louis at least.
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ModeratorI liked what I saw from Keenum in that video but Andre Johnson is simply unreal.
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ModeratorIf he isn’t starting, he might as well get ready to replace Jake Long.
I would agree, except I think the Rams expect him to crack the starting lineup at some point this season. I doubt he rides the pine all season long.
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ModeratorSam not picked up by NFL team, Bills’ Eric Wood tweets ‘Blame ESPN’
In response to reporter wondering how Sam didn’t catch on, Bills lineman writes to ‘blame that on espn. No one wants the distraction.’
BY DANIEL O’LEARY NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Monday, September 1, 2014, 2:18 AM A A AAt least one Buffalo Bills player thinks he knows why Michael Sam did not catch on with an NFL team after being cut Saturday.
Eric Wood, an offensive lineman for the Bills says to “Blame ESPN” in response to a reporter wondering why Sam didn’t catch on after a solid preseason performance.
Ross Tucker, an analyst for NBC and Sirius XM NFL Radio among other outlets, wondered aloud via Twitter: “Michael Sam performed much better than most expected and still isn’t even on a practice squad?”Wood tweeted in response: “blame that on espn. No one wants the distraction.”
Sam, the first openly gay player to be drafted by an NFL team – in the seventh round by the Rams this summer – was not signed to the Rams practice squad after being cut. ProFootballTalk.com had the find.nittany ram
ModeratorOverall would it be accurate to say Robinson has been the most disappointing draft pick? We knew there would be issues with his pass blocking but according to PFF his run blocking hasn’t been exactly stellar either. The talent is there and there’s no reason to panic yet – but everyone had him penciled in as the opening day starter.
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