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joemadParticipant
Joe Buck and Aikman can’t top that.
That was great……
joemadParticipantMobile QBs are great and like you said especially if they’re accurate passers. I think R Wilson and Rodgers are the best QBs in the league because they do it so well…
But both Staubach and Young’s careers ended because of too many concussions….
December 12, 2017 at 8:19 pm in reply to: Eagles game play analysis: Waldman, "all 22," Baldinger, etc. #78848joemadParticipantCorrect, Goff is cool.
I’m not blaming Goff on the fumble… strips happen. Sometimes you get the tuck rule sometimes you don’t… good play by Howie’s son…. that ball was loose for a long time before being pick up. It was like in slo motion as it happened…it was fucked
I think the Rams dominate this Sunday….the Rams are a very good team….at this point with Seattle’s injuries..the Rams are the better team
December 12, 2017 at 7:11 pm in reply to: Eagles game play analysis: Waldman, "all 22," Baldinger, etc. #78843joemadParticipantOn that 1st hi light where Goff escapes and hits Gurley for the screen…. if I’m not mistaken, Goff is stripped by Long 1 or 2 plays later…. that was a total bummer
joemadParticipantThe last time that the Rams were sniffing the playoffs in Seattle….Charlie Fucking Whitehurst….
Let’s only hope that McVay is not the Steve Spagnulo
URL = http://www.nflrush.com/news/2010-week-17-recap-rams-vs-seahawks
Seahawks Soar Into Playoffs over Rams 16-6
Seahawks QB Charlie Whitehurst found WR Mike Williams in the end zone in the first quarter for the game’s only TD. The Seahawks defense took over after that holding the Rams to just two field goals for the game. Rams RB Steven Jackson ran just 11 times for 45 yards while adding 39 yards receiving and QB Sam Bradford passed for only 155 yards and an interception. The Seahawks are the champions of the NFC West.joemadParticipantThe Rams have a rematch this Sunday in Seattle
The Rams need this one this week
joemadParticipantWentz played a great. He was getting creamed yet still made plays. I’m surprised he lasted that long in that game.
Refs had some bullshit calls.
Chris Long’s strip sack was huge, but losing Wentz is a problem for Philadelphia
joemadParticipantthe Philly loss in Sea…. is huge.
Winning in Tenn will not be automatic…
and Jimmy G completed +70% of his passes yesterday in Chicago and looked very good, drove his team for a game winning drive to win the game.
Let’s hope that that last game vs SF isn’t meaningful to the Rams…..
Rams need to win 2 or 3 of the next 4.
joemadParticipantEli has sucked lately, but Geno Smith has sucked worse……….. i think that’s part of the issue ……NYG is benching Eli for Geno Smith…..
When Warner was benched in NY, it was understood he was being benched for the future…
Old AZ article from 2009 when Warner was getting ready to play Pittsburgh in the SB……
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2009/01/leitch_how_tom_coughlin_was_wr.html
Leitch: How Tom Coughlin Was Wrong, and Right, About Kurt Warner
By Will Leitch
On November 14, 2004, the general consensus was that the Arizona Cardinals had ended Kurt Warner’s career as a starting NFL quarterback. Warner was playing for the Giants then, and the Cardinals sacked him six times en route to a 17–14 victory at the old Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe. It was the second loss in a row for Tom Coughlin’s team, dropping them to 5–4. They would lose their next six, but Warner couldn’t be blamed for that. Coughlin benched him for rookie Eli Manning right after the game.As the week’s worth of hype begins for Sunday’s Super Bowl XLIII between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Warner’s Arizona Cardinals, it’s worth remembering Warner’s brief time with the Giants. After being pushed aside in St. Louis for Marc Bulger, Warner came to the Giants ostensibly as a placeholder for Manning, but that Giants team had hopes of its own, buoyed by a 5–2 start. He didn’t actually play that poorly in New York — he had far superior stats that season to Manning — but the perception was that he was over his head in the big city, and his time had passed. And that Manning needed to start playing immediately to prepare for his role as the Future of the Franchise. Warner was upset at the time, but, as is his wont, handled it with aplomb. Manning told the Arizona Republic this year, “I think he understood what was going on but he was very helpful to me. Because of the way he acted it made it easier on me.”
A month after Warner was benched by the Giants, Michael Lewis described Coughlin’s thinking in his famous New York Times Magazine cover story on Eli Manning:
Anyone who watched the game on TV might well have come to the same conclusion: these fellows on the Giants line appeared to be perfectly incompetent. Poor Warner was doing all he could. But Coughlin wasn’t sure. He went into the office in the wee hours of the morning and studied the game tapes … Coughlin had timed every pass play — all 37 of them — and discovered that 30 times Warner held the ball for 3.8 seconds or more. (Depending on how many steps the quarterback drops back to pass, 1.2 to 3 seconds is considered the norm.) Often Giants receivers were open and Warner wasn’t seeing them. The quarterback was more to blame for the sacks than the people assigned to protect him. And one thing Coughlin had noticed in practice about Eli Manning was that, unlike most rookie quarterbacks, he made decisions quickly and got the ball away before the defense could kill him.
By the end of the season it was clear: Eli Manning was the future, and Kurt Warner was toast. The Cardinals signed Warner as a stopgap, only to bench him for rookie Matt Leinart before the 2006 season was over. But Eli was struggling in East Rutherford, too. It looked like Coughlin’s benching of Warner had worked out terribly for both parties. As it turns out, it was the best thing that could have happened for everybody.
Whatever your thoughts about Manning’s playoff performance against the Eagles, he is a Super Bowl MVP and is about to be one of the highest-paid players in the game. And after Warner went to Arizona, Leinart eventually imploded in a keg-party haze, and Warner found himself in charge of one of the most explosive offenses in football, playing in conditions perfect for his talents. In New York, Warner was washed up. Now he’s looking like a lock for the Hall of Fame.
Coughlin might have been right about Eli, but it’s far from certain he was right about Warner. One of the keys to Warner’s success with the Cardinals has been how quickly he’s able to get rid of the ball. (Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt, when he named Warner in the preseason, said this was one of the main reasons he went with him over Leinart.) The Cardinals’ offensive line is competent, but inferior to the Giants’. The reason Warner threw for 4,583 yards and 30 touchdowns this season — more TDs than any Giants quarterback has thrown for in 45 years — is because he delivers the ball to the Cardinals’ outstanding receiver core of Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, and Steve Breaston before the pass rush can meet him. If Coughlin was concerned about Warner missing open receivers back in 2004, that hasn’t been a problem this year. (This also might have a lot to do with offensive coordinator Matt Todd Haley’s schemes, which are more unpredictable and route-oriented than the Giants’ were in 2004.)
It’s difficult to blame Coughlin too much, though. Even in an offensive scheme more suited to his talents, it’s unlikely that Warner would have had the same success in East Rutherford. Warner’s best seasons have come in warm weather and domes, and if you saw him struggle in Philadelphia and New England late in the season, you know even the slightest change in conditions can derail his whole game. In the playoffs, the Cardinals played two games in their home dome and one in the relative warmth of Charlotte. That wouldn’t have been the case in New York.
And Warner is as bizarre a historic anomaly as you’ll find in sports. He’s probably going to the Hall of Fame even though he’s had only three years in which he started more than twelve games. With any team that wasn’t perfectly suited to his talents, he collapsed. He’s basically the sports equivalent of Naughty by Nature having two separate one-hit wonders, “O.P.P” in 1991 and “Hip Hop Hooray”in 1996, and then never doing anything else of note. But just as Naughty by Nature gets to keep those gold records, Warner gets to keep the Super Bowl ring. And if the Cardinals can win Sunday, one Tom Coughlin benching on a hot day in the desert back in 2004 may have laid the path for two separate Super Bowl champions. No one involved would have it any other way
joemadParticipantVegas over under = 45
Rams favored by 7Let x + 7 = Rams score
Let y = Cards score.Thus, final score = 45 – 7 = 38 / 2 = 19 (Cards score) +7 = 26 Rams score
Rams 26
Cards 19joemadParticipanti have this on the Rams / Saints media thread
more chatter on moving Philly / LA to SNF……….
URL = http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-rams-saints-farmer-20171126-story.html
Rams show they are ready for prime time with impressive victory over the Saints
The Rams aren’t just a headache for opponents anymore. They’ve become a problem — albeit the good kind — for the NFL.
In a season filled with hand wringing over sagging TV ratings, these upstart Rams have barged onto center stage and commanded the spotlight.
They posted a 26-20 victory over New Orleans in front of a national audience Sunday, knocking off a team that had won eight in a row in a game that wasn’t as close as the score suggests.
The issue for the NFL is how to reshuffle the lineup to give the Rams maximum exposure, while keeping the networks as happy as possible. More on this in a moment.
This much is clear: The Rams are a real contender, not some two-dimensional Hollywood set. They were 3-1 in the first quarter of the season, 3-1 in the second and will go 3-1 in the third if they win at Arizona next Sunday.
After each of their three losses this season, the Rams have bounced back with a win. They lost to Washington, then won at San Francisco four days later. They lost to Seattle, then rebounded with a win at Jacksonville. They were humbled at Minnesota, then came back strong against the Saints.
Just another check in Sean McVay’s column when it comes to picking a coach of the year.
“I don’t know how you could keep him out of the conversation,” Rams owner Stan Kroenke said after Sunday’s win. “[Philadelphia’s Doug Pederson] has done a great job, but they did better than we did last year.”
The 2016 Rams were unwatchable, an offensive Chernobyl and a defense that finally wore down after trying to carry the load week after week. These Rams have whipped a startling U-turn, with the best comparison being the out-of-nowhere “Greatest Show on Turf” St. Louis Rams, who went on to win the Super Bowl after finishing 4-12 the season before.
Putting Rams and Super Bowl in the same sentence is crazy at this point. Philadelphia is the hottest team in the league, and the Vikings just posted a convincing victory over the Rams. But there’s no denying the standards have changed in the Los Angeles locker room.
The Rams weren’t delirious or even giddy after beating the Saints, which was by far the biggest win since the NFL returned to Los Angeles. It’s almost a non-issue that the franchise is now guaranteed its first non-losing season since 2006. Asked if that means anything to him, quarterback Jared Goff said: “No. We’ve got however many more left to make our goal and win the division and make the playoffs.”
Simple math says the Rams need to get to 11 wins to safely ensure themselves of a spot in the postseason. They’ve got games at Arizona and at home against San Francisco that they absolutely should win. If they were to take care of business against those teams, they would need to beat Philadelphia, Seattle or Tennessee to get to 11.
Now for the network politicking. The NFL is strongly considering flexing the Eagles-Rams in the Dec. 10 Sunday night slot currently occupied by Baltimore-Pittsburgh. That decision will be made early this week, and two big factors will come into play: One, how did Saints-Rams do in the ratings? And two, will 5-5 Baltimore stay relevant by beating Houston on Monday night?
At the end of the first month of the season, Fox and CBS are allowed to protect five of their remaining games from being flexed. Fox did not protect Eagles-Rams — who could have guessed it would be so compelling? — but now is fighting hard to retroactively protect it and make it their national showcase game.
Eagles-Rams is not the only game being considered as a flex candidate for that week, if Ravens-Steelers turns out to be something less than must-see TV. The league is also mulling moving Minnesota at Carolina into the Sunday night slot and keeping Eagles-Rams as the afternoon national game.
If the Rams don’t get a Sunday night game in two weeks, they’re also a flex consideration the next Sunday when they play at Seattle. The night game now slated for that Sunday is Dallas at Oakland, and both of those teams have losing records.
As for the Rams, they aren’t shrinking from the spotlight. They were unquestionably ready for their close-up Sunday.
“We want that respect,” linebacker Mark Barron said. “We want people to see what kind of team we are. Hopefully, everybody got to see today.”
joemadParticipantI loved the time consuming drive in the 4th qtr
Rams got up off the mat in Minnesota and beat the red hot Saints
IR and ER are correct… the Rams were in control today…
The Rams are a very good team
joemadParticipantRams favored by 2.5
Over under = 53.5
thus the final score:
Rams 28
Saints 25.5
joemadParticipantRussell Wilson is great, lucky for Ram fans that kicker is not
Almost another meltdown for ATL
joemadParticipantToo bad… Woods has been great
Time for Tavon to earn his $42M
joemadParticipantKeenum was one slippery guy Sunday. He escaped about 5 sacks and that one where Brockers and Barwin both failed to get him down and he completed the 20 yard pass downfield to Thielen was a sign this was the Vikings’ day.
Keenum was lucky…. very very lucky
Vikes still have Lions on Thanksgiving, Falcons and Panthers.
Let’s not crown them #2 in the NFC yet…
joemadParticipantBTW did Keenum even hit the floor on the bullshit roughing the passer penalty?
joemadParticipantKupp is not clutch… he’s borderline choker
Vikes tackled better that the Rams did
I thought McVay gave up on the run too early in the 4th
Fuck the Vikes I still think the Rams are better
joemadParticipantI hope guys are not color blind.
Pink = Washington at Saints.
Purple = Rams at Vikes
Green = AZ at Hou
baby blue = TB @ Mia
yellow = SD @ Buff
brown get’s both Chargers and Rams
joemadParticipantFisher’s ceiling is 8 wins
16 of 22 seasons Fisher was .500 or much less
Fisher needed ideal conditions to win and never had a good plan B
Enough of this guy.
joemadParticipantI think the Rams can beat Case….. but the Rams have to limit mistakes and penalties….
Vikings under Zimmer play disciplined football. Once again the Vikings are one of the least penalized teams…. especially when the Vikings play at home.
YTD NFL Penalties URL = https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game?date=2017-11-16
joemadParticipantOld emotions die hard for me. Whenever the offense starts a game with a long dry spell, like they did today, I assume that they won’t be able to turn it around. Thirteen years of bad offense will do that to some of us I guess.
McVay’s play calling along with players that have the confidence and ability to execute consistently (Woods, Goff, Gurley, Kupp, Whitworth, Tru, Tree, Donald, Bockers, Ethan W. etc) gives the team hope to dig themselves out of holes like they faced in the 1st half………… things that the Rams haven’t been able to do consistently in a over a dozen seasons……
The Texans looked like Fisher’s Rams on Sunday…. ready to extend a lead right before half to 14-6 after taking the ball over on the Rams 38 thanks to a failed fake punt by the Hekker to Cooper….
Houston then drives deep inside the Rams 10 yard line thanks to decent gains by RB Lamar Miller with a carry to the 6 yard line that would’ve made it 2nd and 3 from the Rams 6 yard line…., instead, it’s holding Texans, now it’s 2nd and 17 from the Rams 20, next play, Savage is picked….
Rams take advantage and drive downfield to kick an FG to retake the lead and never look back…….
that holding play and pick was the turning point, something the Rams have victimized themselves many times over the past dozen years…..
Huge HUGE game next week in Minnesota, then N.O., then AZ, then Philly. then the Great Northwest…….Wild ride ahead!!!
joemadParticipantHou at LA
Todd Gurley = Even Steven
68 yards rushing
68 yards receiving
6.2 avg yards per carry….
Tavon Austin almost Even Steven
2 yards rushing
Zero yards receiving
joemadParticipantThe media iz gonna be picking the Rams as a super-bowl choice next year. I might too.
Some already are picking the Rams to win this year……..
URL = https://www.yahoo.com/news/win-super-bowl-lii-nfl-140509012.html
Who Will Win Super Bowl LII? Our NFL Midseason Predictions;
Good luck finding a consensus when it comes to Super Bowl favorites this season. Eighteen members of The MMQB/SI NFL staff took a crack at predicting the postseason, and each voter’s bracket is below. As for who we think is going to Minneapolis in February, no one got more than half the vote.
AFC CHAMPION: Patriots (9 votes), Chiefs (5), Steelers (4)
NFC CHAMPION: Eagles (9), Seahawks (4), Rams (2), Vikings (2), Saints (1)
SUPER BOWL LII CHAMPION: Eagles (4), Patriots (4), Steelers (3), Chiefs (2), Rams (2), Vikings (2), Seahawks (1)
PETER KING:
I am all-in on the Rams, which can be pretty dangerous. The franchise hasn’t finished over .500 since 2003. Their coach just began shaving in May. Also in May: Their quarterback looked like a bust. But I see what I see. I see a smart and high-powered offense that can protect the quarterback and is as scary on the ground as it is through the air. I see an imaginative coach with a good grip on his team. I see a voracious front seven with a big star (Aaron Donald) playing better than his rep. I see a team in the last three weeks that has won three, seven and three time zones away from home, respectively. (Did you know the Rams won their last three straight by double-digits at 1 p.m., 10 a.m and 10 a.m. on their body clocks?) The road thing will come in handy during the playoffs, in my calculation, because the Rams could well have to win in a hostile environment against an excellent team like Philadelphia to win it all. But will that really matter? This team is 2-8 at the Coliseum since the return of the franchise to Los Angeles, and the Rams are 5-0 away from home this year. As for climbing Mount Belichick, I’m sure some wise guy out there will point out that, on the day that Bill Belichick coordinated the Giants’ defense that shut down John Elway in Super Bowl XXI, Sean McVay was 1 year and 1 day old, and how on earth could the great Belichick ever lose to a guy less than half his age? My counter: The coaches won’t be putting on pads that day. The Rams, except at quarterback, will be deeper and better on Super Sunday.John DePetro
The NFC Divisional matchup between the Cinderella Los Angles Rams and the 15-1 juggernaut Philadelphia Eagles is the true Super Bowl LII. Goff’s Rams edge Wentz’s Eagles in an all-time classic. Old-man Drew Brees’ last best shot at a title ends in a half-empty Los Angeles Coliseum. The Kansas City Chiefs grind through three tough playoff games, overcoming the Bills, Steelers and the Patriots. Weary from the cold and brutal road to the Minneapolis, the Chiefs fall short and the once-dead Rams franchise wins its first Lombardi trophy since 1999, and Tinseltown is now home to the Oscars and the 2017 Super Bowl Champs.
Albert Breer
Yes, the Steelers have had drama with Ben Roethlisberger. And Antonio Brown. And Martavis Bryant. And that has completely overshadowed what has developed over the last two months—Mike Tomlin has his most complete team since he and the Steelers went to their last Super Bowl seven years ago.
Jenny Vrentas
Before the Eagles’ win against the Broncos, we wandered the tailgates outside for our Football in America series. We found exactly what you’d expect in Philly: Hardcore fans who believe this really, finally could be the year … but also are waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop. That early 2000s run of three straight losses in the conference championship and then a loss in the Super Bowl still stings. But, at the midpoint of the season, the Eagles are the best team in football, with a young quarterback who is playing beyond his years, talent in all three phases of the game and a tight-knit locker room with leaders of all ages. The Patriots do a better job than anyone masking and overcoming their weaknesses, but if the Eagles get a Super Bowl XXXIX do-over, a depleted New England defense will have trouble stopping Wentz and Co.Robert Klemko
If it comes down to these two teams, the matchup to watch would be Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce vs. this Seahawks secondary, and Seattle has been gashed recently by some talented tight ends. I’d bet on Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Bobby Wagner and Richard Sherman to remedy this by season’s end. Shut down Kelce, and the Chiefs don’t look so tough.
joemadParticipantyes, great movie…. very underrated.
I think the actor who played “Ice Cube” is actually Ice Cube’s son….. those guys pulled it off well.
not only did that movie capture the racial harassment from the police, it captured how the music evolved, from raw talent to the polished finished production of the music and live performances…..
I thought that Giamati played the band manager pretty good…..
BTW, did you think he did a better job as “Pig Vomit” in Howard Stern’s movie?…. Giamati was great in that role………
joemadParticipanti agree, 1999 is not 2017
how about 1973? sans Goff = Hadle/Harris, Jaws, Haden, et al.
Knox = McVay + 10 years in age.
Harold Jackson = Woods divided by Sammy
Jack Snow = Kupp
Tommy Prothro = Fisher
Injured Roman Gabriel = Injured Bradford both off to Philly
Karl Sweetan = Mannion
Merlin = Donald
Tree = Isaiah
Tru = Elemdorf
Don Kloserman, where R you?
beat Dallas and or Minny in reg season, then what happens in playoffs?
hey, it beats Brooks, Fish, Spags and Vitt any of the week…
sorry for the SMACK CHICK type post…..
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November 7, 2017 at 11:10 am in reply to: Can the Rams survive a home game (against Houston)? #77058joemadParticipanti’m 0-2 when I attend Rams games at the Coliseum…… (last year vs Buf and this year vs Sea)
beware, I plan to attend this Sunday…..can the Rams survive with my ass in the seats?
joemadParticipantgreat “6-2” article by Pete King….
I’ve been cautiously optimistic about this team thus far, but a very impressive win yesterday….we all know that the Giants are not very good this year, but it’s never easy to win in Jersey…..
didn’t think about the travel time the past 3 games, JAX, UK, and NY, now back to LA. McVay has kept the troops focused….
Rams got to keep winning to keep pace with a chance to get HFA in the playoffs….. as of today, the road in January is through Philly…..
joemadParticipantSorry but Giants coach Ben McAdoo cannot pull off the Pat Riley hair do.
All phases look good today!
joemadParticipantThey did well that first year in Anaheim. Lost first two, and then won eleven games. Beat Joe Montana 48-26 and then 31-17.
wiki:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Los_Angeles_Rams_seasonAtlanta won the division that year with twelve wins. The Bartkowski team.
Rams beat the Falcons in OT the final game.
Rams also trounced Dallas 38-14 late in the season….but then in the playoffs Dallas kilt em.w
vI was a senior in HS. I remember the mid season loss in ATL it was one of the 1st games we recorded on our VCR. ….. 3rd and 38, then 4th and 11 in the closing minutes and they lost. That ended up costing the division.
“”””This early battle for NFC West supremacy was a slugfest from the start. It was won on two big plays near the end, however. The Falcons had a 3rd and 38 from their own 19 before Steve Bartkowski hit Alfred Jackson twice, on a 27-yard pass play to the 46 and, on 4th and 11, the winning 54-yard bomb.””””
After Dallas eliminated the Rams in the playoffs, the Cowboys played ATL in the next playoff round….. ATL had the game in the bag with a huge lead in the 4th qtr and lost……
Vermeil / Jaworski and the Eagles knocked off Dallas in the NFC Championship… Wild Card Raiders won it all…
the traditional perennial power NFC teams began to shift in the 1980s….. RAMS, Vikings, Cowboys were no longer the default divisional winners…..
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