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  • in reply to: Thanksgiving recipes #93994
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    BTW add soaked wood chips to the briquettes. About 25% hickory and 75% cherry. Wood chips are cheap at Home Depot.

    Cherry is the popular wood of choice for turkey, thus pick some up soon before the stores run out..

    Good luck… I’m sure others will post their recipes or you’ll find other recipes on line.

    in reply to: Thanksgiving recipes #93993
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    If you have a Weber kettle charcoal grill here’s a fool proof recipe.

    It’s simple, tastes and looks fantastic… I’ve been doing this every year for Xmas and Thanksgiving since 1996

    1) brine the bird on Wed. Get the brine mix from cost plus. It’s not expensive and very effective and provides a nice aroma to your kitchen the day before Thanksgiving.

    2) follow the brine directions on package.

    2a) But at a high level boil a large pot of water

    2b) stir in brine mix and simmer let brine water cool.

    2c) place bird in large plastic bag (eg large trash bag) place bag in cooler pour brine mix in bag in cooler with ice in cooler

    3) Thursday AM grill the bird. I grill mine at 350 degrees Which results in cooking time of about 12 Min per pound.

    3a) grill prep 60 charcoal briquettes. Get them hot to prep for indirect grilling. (30 briquettes on each side of the grill.

    3b) place aluminum drip pan in between the 2 piles of briquettes. Add a small amount of water to pan.

    3c) put your grate on the grill. Make sure you positioned the grill grate to allow you to add briquettes to each side of the bird during cook time

    3d) remove bird from brine. rinse bird. Pat dry with paper towel. rub with butter and olive oil.

    3f) place bird on grill over drip pan

    3g) add 9 briquettes to each side of the grill ever 50 min to maintain 350 degree heat in grill

    4) cook bird until 160 to 165 degrees, remove from grill and let stand for 20% of your cooking time.

    5) carve and serve.

    I use this recipe below for gravy, but cheat a little bit.

    I add canned gravy instead of the flour bullshit.

    Very tasty.

    Giblet Gravy

    * Giblet Gravy

1 tablespoon butter

2 teaspoons olive oil


Giblets, liver, and neck from 1 turkey

1 cup diced onions

1/3 cup minced celery

1/3 cup peeled and minced carrots

2 cloves garlic, peeled and minced

4 teaspoons all-purpose flour

1/4 cup dry white wine

1 1/2 cups chicken broth

1 sprig fresh thyme


Salt and freshly ground black pepper
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    * Giblet Gravy:
1 tablespoon butter
2 teaspoons olive oil
Giblets, liver, and neck from 1 turkey
1 cup diced onions
1/3 cup minced celery
1/3 cup peeled and minced carrots
2 garlic, peeled and minced
4 teaspoons all-purpose flour
1/4 cup dry white wine
1 1/2 cups chicken broth
1 sprig fresh thyme
Salt and freshly ground black pepper

    Giblet Gravy:
    In a medium, heavy pot, melt the butter and the olive oil over medium-high heat. Add the giblets, liver, and turkey neck, and cook, stirring until brown, 2 to 3 minutes. Add the onions, celery, carrots, and garlic, and saute an additional 5 minutes, or until the vegetables are soft. Stir in the flour and cook, stirring for 1 minute.
    Deglaze the pan with the white wine, stirring to incorporate any browned bits from the bottom of the pan. Add the chicken stock, thyme sprig, and any reserved juices from the bottom of the roasting pan, and cook, stirring constantly, until thickened. Strain. Adjust seasonings with salt and freshly ground black pepper. Serve warm with Emeril’s Big Bird.
    Yield: about 3 cups
    Recipe courtesy of Emeril Lagasse, 2004

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    in reply to: Chiefs VS Rams #93979
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    Rams Chiefs series history

    Chiefs lead series 7-4

    St Louie’s Rams are 0-6 vs Chiefs
    LA Rams are 4-1 vs Chiefs

    URL = https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/teamvsteam?opp=29

    in reply to: Rams vs KC will be moved from Mexico City to Los Angeles. #93859
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    Did the team actually board on a plane to practice at Colorado Springs?

    in reply to: Personal Fouls #93844
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    Seattle was 2 for 9 on 3rd Down conversions

    Seattle gained 5 first downs due to Ram penalties

    RAMS had ZERO first downs due to Seattle penalties

    in reply to: reactions to the Seattle game #93721
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    I attended the game. I’m currently outside the Coliseum enjoying a vitory milkshake at Cold Stone…

    Rams gave up a ton of rushing yards but they came up with some big 3rd down sacks today

    I was worried that the Rams mis managed the game clock after recovering the first OSK midway in the fourth qtr

    This was a great game to see from the stands….high fives and fist bumps for everyone!

    The Rams are 9-1

    in reply to: TV MAP WEEK 10 is this a sick joke? #93679
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    The Ram game is on CBS today…. maybe Ch 46 in Monterey…

    San Jose is too far from Sacto….

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    in reply to: wildfires: Rams cancel Friday practice #93629
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    Several wildfires burning in California … we’re located about 175 miles from the Wildfires in No Cal… our air quality is very poor which has forced them to reschedule and move some local HS football playoff games today

    In addition, It’s been several months since we had any rain in Northern California… some towns have been completely torched to the ground….

    So Cal had some rains a few weeks back but not nearly enough to curb the dry forest areas….

    in reply to: mass shooting at bar in Thousand Oaks #93579
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    URL = http://www.jimrome.com/articles/thousand-oaks-shooting

    Thousand Oaks Shooting
    I don’t know the answers. But I know what we’re doing is not enough.
    NOVEMBER 08, 2018 – 10:58 AM

    I’m not sure how many times I’ve started a show by reminding everyone that this is a sports show, but that sports isn’t that important on a day like this. And this is another day like that. Because we all woke to news of 12 people murdered in the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand Oaks, California.
    Again.
    I’m from Southern California. This show is based here. I know Thousand Oaks well. I’ve even driven past the Borderline – it’s just off the Ventura Freeway. I have close friends in the area. It’s no far from where I grew up.
    And like me, a lot of you listening know Thousand Oaks well. Many of you listening right now live there. Maybe your kids have played sports there. Or you went to dinner there. Or went to a movie there. 
    Last night, a bunch of college kids went to a bar there for college night and country line dancing. And many of them never came home. 
    So if you think I’m going to see that on the news, shrug and then talk about Le’Veon Bell’s contract situation or some sick dunks in the Association, you could not be more wrong. I’ll get to those topics at some point, but not right now. Not when that is happening. 
    A lot of sports talk radio is about making things that are unimportant seem important, but I’m certainly not going to make things that are important seem unimportant. 
    When a dozen people are murdered up the road from me, I’m going to talk about it. 
    Some of you might not want to hear it. And if you’re tempted to change the station right now, I get that. 
    I would rather that you didn’t, but if you do, think about why you’re doing it. Think about why this makes you uncomfortable. And then maybe take some action.
    Some of you might want to view sports as a place to escape the news. And it is. But you know what else a place to escape the news is? A country line dancing bar in Thousand Oaks, California.  

    Or a movie theater in Colorado 
    A college campus in Virginia
    A high school in Florida
    A concert in Las Vegas 
    A church in Texas
    A high school in Colorado 
    A club in Florida

    An elementary school in Connecticut
    Those are just a few of the high profile mass murders. There are so many more. Maybe you remember some of them, maybe you remember all of them, and maybe you remember none of them. 

    Remember Columbine? Remember when we all said that would never happen again. It did. 

    Remember Sandy Hook? Remember how we said that was the last straw that nothing like that would ever happen again. It has. 

    We’re not even two weeks removed from a mass murder of senior citizens in a synagogue in Pittsburgh and we’re already going through this again. 
    Mass murders have become so commonplace, it’s practically part of the weather report. I’ll tell you about it, we’ll go to commercial break, people will say “thoughts and prayers” and then move on.
    So let me try something. Let me read you a quick piece from a CNN report:

    Jason Coffman was one of the parents anxiously awaiting news Thursday morning about those inside the bar.
    His son, Cody, 22, was there with friends — and while his friends got out, they didn’t know where Cody was, he told CNN and HLN.

    The father told CNN he can track his son’s cell phone — and the tracking indicates it still was in the bar Thursday morning.

    “It’s at the club. It’s not moving. That’s the problem,” said Coffman, who was awaiting information at a center for relatives.

    “I am very emotional right now,” he said. “This is my firstborn son and it’s tough.”
    The father said Cody’s friends woke him up at 1 a.m. to tell him about the shooting.

    “I’m afraid that Cody ran to the gunman instead of away from the gunman. That’s the kind of boy Cody is,” he said.
    That’s a father saying that about his 22 year old son. A father talking about how he can track his son’s cell phone and that phone is not moving. Imagine that. Think about that. I know I am. 

    Your thoughts and your prayers for the victims, their families, and their friends, plus the survivors who had to witness what happened last night, are important. But they are not enough. There have been so many thoughts and prayers after mass murderers over the years that if they were enough, there wouldn’t be more mass murders.  
    And that moment of silence has always been followed by more moments of silence. And absolutely nothing else. 
    At a certain point, we need to decide as a country if this is okay. If this is normal. Because right now, by not doing anything, we’re saying it’s okay and it’s normal. We’re saying it’s okay that people can be murdered indiscriminately in clubs, churches, synagogues, and schools, at concerts and in movie theaters. 
    I don’t know the answers. But I know what we’re doing is not enough. 

    I genuinely do send my thoughts and prayers to the victims of the Thousand Oaks shooting. To their families. To their friends. And to the survivors who have to live with this pain. And I would suggest that the best way to honor their lives is to do something, anything, to make sure this does not happen again.  

    in reply to: the Peters problem #93424
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    2015 Scouting report on Marcus…

    Lapses

    Peters did major damage to his draft stock when he was kicked out of the Washington Huskies program midway through the 2014 season. He also hasn’t interviewed well with NFL teams since then. Multiple teams have said they question whether Peters has actually learned and grown from the incident
    Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015mpeters.php#JaGpzo4R8SV8ZBLY.99
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    2015 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Marcus Peters

    Strengths:
    Man-cover corner
    Prevents separation
    Excellent at running the route
    Can play press man
    Can play off man
    Quick feet
    Loose hips to turn and run
    Agile; maintains coverage in and out of breaks
    Instinctive
    Physicality; will battle receivers
    Ball skills
    Good hands for a cornerback
    Adept at playing the ball for breakups
    High-points the ball well
    Good length
    Can fight big receivers
    Can run with vertical receivers
    Quality tackler
    Great fit for zone scheme
    Recoverability

    Weaknesses:
    Can have lapses to give up a play or two
    Character issues
    Is he coachable?
    Doesn’t react well to some coaches
    Some question whether he learned from past issues

    Summary: If it weren’t for off-the-field issues, Peters could be the top cornerback in the 2015 NFL Draft. He has a first-round skill set with size, speed, length and ball skills. However, Peters did major damage to his draft stock when he was kicked out of the Washington Huskies program midway through the 2014 season. He also hasn’t interviewed well with NFL teams since then. Multiple teams have said they question whether Peters has actually learned and grown from the incident.

    In 2013, Peters recorded 55 tackles with five interceptions, one forced fumble and nine passes broken up. He had some clutch games against Stanford and Oregon State. Peters was a Second-Team All-Pac-12 performer.

    Despite his abbreviated 2014 season, Peters recorded 23 tackles, five passes broken up and three interceptions. He had an excellent game against Stanford with an interception and good coverage on Cardinal receiver Ty Montgomery. Versus Jaelen Strong and Arizona State, Peters put together a solid game. He was beaten by Strong on two receptions, including a touchdown, but had wins on Strong as well. Peters covered Strong better than any other defensive back last season. Then Peters was kicked off the team for repeated arguments with the new coaching staff, and it had reached the point that the team couldn’t tolerate his presence because it was setting a bad example for other players.

    Washington did allow Peters to continue to train at the school and participate in ita pro day. At the Combine and in team interviews, Peters didn’t impress or convince teams that his problems were a thing of the past.

    For the NFL, Peters is a man-cover corner who is capable of going one-on-one against good receivers and keeping them from big games. Peters will give up some plays here and there, but overall, he has been very good at limiting the effectiveness of No. 1 receivers. Peters has the speed, size and agility to run with them and prevent separation. Peters is quick to maintain coverage in and out of breaks with the agility to open up his hips and run downfield when the wideouts go vertical. He also shows a nice job of defending the back-shoulder sideline throws that are en vogue in the NFL.

    Peters is a dangerous cornerback to throw at with his ball skills. He is adept at snatching the pass and taking it the other way. In the NFL, it wouldn’t be surprising if he has some significant interception totals in some seasons.

    For Peters to stick in the NFL and be a success, he has to change his attitude to work with a variety of coaches. Peters could mesh well with one staff and then have issues with another. With the frequency of coaching staff changes, it is important for Peters to become coachable. It wouldn’t be surprising if he becomes a player who bounces around as teams get tired of his act while other teams feel they can work with him.

    In speaking with NFL teams, they are split on if Peters will go in the first round of the 2015 NFL Draft. They all agree that he has first-round talent and would be a first-round pick if it weren’t for his off-the-field issues. In surveying five teams, three thought Peters would not go in the first round, but two thought he would. In the 2015 NFL Draft, Peters could go as high as the middle of the first round and also could fall into the third round. The second round could be his safest estimate.

    Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015mpeters.php#70uCWxgL2B3KtztS.99

    in reply to: reactions to the Saints game #93408
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    Yeah…like everyone else, I bet there were contrite and conciliatory words later.

    ZN, this happened on the Rams final drive of the 1st half where the Rams scored 3….

    Rams were driving but Saffold’s penalty pushed the Rams back to their own 40+ yard line…… Goff responded with a pass to the TE, (I think Everrett) to set up Zuerline’s FG at the end of the half with only a few seconds left in the half…. Clutch play by the offense….

    After that Goff INT in the 2nd half, the Rams regrouped and responded pretty good…. it was just too much to ask the Defense to pitch a shutout in the 2nd half against Brees…..

    in reply to: reactions to the Saints game #93350
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    Saints secondary tackled a little better than the Rams did…

    I think i’ve had it with Marcus Peters

    Sean Peyton irritates me.

    BTW game went the same way WVRam predicted…

    Rams fall behind early and fall short on furious comeback…

    in reply to: Game day Eats #93324
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    Sausage, mushrooms, roast beef and asparagus…. very nice…

    I smoked ribs yesterday for today’s day game… I will grill the last of the summer zuchinni today…. …. I also still have half of a left over Burger King Whopper in the fridge from Friday night….not sure what I’m gonna do with that…..

    in reply to: Rams @ Saints #93249
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    Saints were favored by 1.5, but heavy betting the Rams this week has swung the spread….

    Rams are now favored by 1.5

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    in reply to: Happy Halloween #93235
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    bought a bag of 150 candies (mix of fun size M&Ms, Snickers, Peppermint Patties, Milky Way, Kit Kats, Twix, !OOK Bar, etc…

    Made sure that the Milky Ways were given out first…

    we have 67 candies left, thus we had about 70 to 80 show up…..

    in reply to: RIP Willie McCovey #93229
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    RIP Stretch…. ROY in 1959, after getting called up in July 30…… List of Rookies in 1959 below, includes Maury Wills, Bob Gibson,

    Weird seeing him with the Padres and A’s…. like seeing Johnny U. as a Charger or Joe Willie Namath as a Ram…..

    “””In his Major League debut on July 30, 1959, McCovey went four-for-four against Hall-of-Famer Robin Roberts of the Philadelphia Phillies with two singles and two triples. In 52 major league games, he had a .354 batting average and 13 home runs. He was named the National League’s (NL) Rookie of the Year.[5] He won the NL Player of the Month Award in August, his first full month in the majors (.373, 8 HR, 22 RBI). He had a 22-game hitting streak, setting the mark for San Francisco Giants rookies, four short of the all-time team record.””

    1959 MLB Rookies below…. *Sparky Anderson… I wonder if he had gray hair back then. hard to imagine seeing him with any other hair color…..

    Bob Allison
    George Altman
    *Sparky Anderson HOF
    Jim Baxes
    Gary Blaylock
    Marshall Bridges
    Ernie Broglio
    John Buzhardt
    Johnny Callison
    Jerry Casale
    Nelson Chittum
    Jim Coates
    Bennie Daniels
    Don Demeter
    Dutch Dotterer
    Chuck Essegian
    Ron Fairly
    Jack Fisher
    Bob Gibson HOF
    Eli Grba
    Lenny Green
    Pumpsie Green
    Kent Hadley
    Jay Hook
    Joe Koppe
    Steve Korcheck
    Bobby Locke
    Lee Maye
    Jim McAnany
    Willie McCovey HOF
    Bob Miller
    Jim O’Toole
    Gene Oliver
    Bobo Osborne
    Jim Owens
    Orlando Pena
    Jim Perry
    Vada Pinson
    Dick Ricketts
    John Romano
    Ron Samford
    Al Schroll
    Larry Sherry
    Russ Snyder
    Willie Tasby
    John Tsitouris
    Jerry Walker
    Maury Wills
    Ted Wills
    Gary Blaylock
    Marshall Bridges
    Ernie Broglio
    John Buzhardt
    Jerry Casale
    Nelson Chittum
    Jim Coates
    Bennie Daniels
    Jack Fisher
    Bob Gibson HOF
    Eli Grba
    Jay Hook
    Bobby Locke
    Bob Miller
    Jim O’Toole
    Jim Owens
    Orlando Pena
    Jim Perry
    Dick Ricketts
    Al Schroll
    Larry Sherry
    John Tsitouris
    Jerry Walker
    Ted Wills

    Gary Blaylock
    Marshall Bridges
    Ernie Broglio
    John Buzhardt
    Jerry Casale
    Nelson Chittum
    Jim Coates
    Bennie Daniels
    Jack Fisher
    Bob Gibson HOF
    Eli Grba
    Jay Hook
    Bobby Locke
    Bob Miller
    Jim O’Toole
    Jim Owens
    Orlando Pena
    Jim Perry
    Dick Ricketts
    Al Schroll
    Larry Sherry
    John Tsitouris
    Jerry Walker
    Ted Wills

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    Sweet…. big game. LA, Anaheim, STL, LA Rams are 19 – 17 in New Orleans vs the Saints

    “””The following is a list of all regular season and postseason games played between the Los Angeles Rams and New Orleans Saints. The two teams have met each other 74 times (including 1 postseason game), with the Los Angeles Rams winning 41 games and the New Orleans Saints winning 33 games……”””

    “””Los Angeles Rams lead series 41-33-0″””

    URL = https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/los-angeles-rams/teamvsteam?opp=20

    in reply to: Rams @ Saints #93147
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    RAMS @ Saints = RED

    Joe Buck and Aikman on FOX

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    in reply to: Rams @ Saints #93071
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    Saints are favored this week vs (Rams +1.5)….

    Saints scored 14 points last week vs Minnesota thanks to some turnovers……

    Never easy to win in N.O.

    I think the Rams can win….

    Saints at Vikes from Sunday: URL = https://www.neworleanssaints.com/news/game-recap-new-orleans-saints-30-minnesota-vikings-20

    Minneapolis – The New Orleans Saints finally left U.S. Bank Stadium victorious after a 30-20 triumph on “Sunday Night Football.”

    The victory extended the Saints winning streak to six games and at 6-1 keeps them atop the NFC South standings, one game up on Carolina (5-2 after a 36-21 victory over Baltimore on Sunday).

    The victory also sets the stage for the most anticipated matchup of the 2018 NFL season: the undefeated Los Angeles Rams (8-0) vs. the Saints at the Mercedes-Benz Superdome next Sunday at 3:25 p.m. on Fox. The Rams won last season’s game at the Los Angeles Coliseum, ending the Saints’ eight-game winning streak.

    New Orleans took control of Sunday’s game when it turned a second quarter Minnesota fumble into Alvin Kamara’s second touchdown and a 17-13 halftime lead.

    Minnesota (4-3-1) was driving when linebacker Alex Anzalone and cornerback P.J. Williams delivered a big hit on receiver Adam Thielen who fumbled. Cornerback Marshon Lattimore picked it up and returned it 54 yards. Following a Minnesota penalty, the Saints had the ball at the 18. A quick 17-yard pass from Drew Brees to Kamara gave the Saints a first-and-goal from the 1 and Kamara scored on the next play.

    The Saints started pulling away in the second half after stopping the Vikings on fourth-and-1 (led to Wil Lutz’s 42-yard field goal) and because of a 45-yard interception return for a touchdown by cornerback P.J. Williams with 5:58 left in the third quarter.

    The potent Vikings passing attack was on display in the first half as quarterback Kirk Cousins was 15 of 19 for 189 yards with one touchdown in the opening half with Stefon Diggs (four receptions for 54 yards with one TD) and Thielen (five catches for 75 yards) as his top targets. But the Saints defense settled down, started getting pressure on Cousins (sacks by Sheldon Rankins and Marcus Davenport, two each) and forcing turnovers.

    While nothing will erase the memory of last season’s Minneapolis Miracle – an unlikely touchdown reception by Diggs that kept the Saints from playing in the NFC championship game – getting a win in Minneapolis after three games here in the past 14 months keeps the Saints momentum rolling and solidifies their status as one of the top two teams in the NFC.

    Next Sunday’s game between the Saints and the Rams will sort out which one is No. 1 in the conference.

    Odds and ends: Cornerback Eli Apple made his first start for the Saints after being obtained earlier in the week in a trade with the New York Giants. Ken Crawley was inactive. Defensive end Everson Griffen made his return to the Vikings after missing five games for personal reasons but wasn’t a factor. … Brees threw his first interception of the season with 3:03 left in the second quarter to Harrison Smith. Brees had thrown 231 passes this season without an interception. It was another strong outing for Lutz with three made field goals, two from 42 yards and a 52-yarder in the first half. Taysom Hill saw plenty of snaps on offense, completing a long pass to Michael Thomas, catching a pass and rushing the ball three times. … Safety Vonn Bell left the game in the fourth quarter.

    Key Saints stat leaders

    Drew Brees, 18 of 23 for 120 yards and one TD and one interception

    Michael Thomas, five catches for 81 yards

    Mark Ingram, 13 carries for 63 yards

    in reply to: reactions to the GB game #93006
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    The 3rd 4th Qtr comeback for Goff

    40 more will tie him with Peyton.

    in reply to: Packers @ Rams in essence a national game #92871
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    Thom Brennaham and Aikam doing the game…

    at least Joe Buck won’t be kicked around by both Packer and Rams fans for the game….. Joe Buck will be pissing off dodger and sox fans….

    Buck is probably the most hated announcer in my lifetime since Howard Cosell………Buck announced Football last night one day after doing the WS in boston… what a great gig to have…. I think I could that… I think I could easily be a pretty good disliked announcer…

    BTW I think Aikam LOVES the Rams… like most of us… he’s a genuine fan from the 70’s

    in reply to: Packers @ Rams in essence a national game #92843
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    Damn….

    in reply to: Math, Islam, Judaism… #92786
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    That was great…

    Neil is the man

    in reply to: What Niners fans are saying…before AND after the game #92672
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    My favorite:

    Even our blocked punts travel forward

    Yeah, that was great….

    I like the fan who calls Jed York a prick..

    in reply to: Rams @ 49ers #92518
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    1990 SF was 9-0…. Rams were a sucky 3-7 and heavy underdogs…… this game on Sunday is no gimme.

    URL = http://articles.latimes.com/1990-11-26/sports/sp-3951_1_san-francisco-49ers/2

    Rams Bounce 49er Streak, 28-17 : Pro football: Gary’s fumble turns into his third touchdown as San Francisco gets sloppy and loses for the first time in 19 games.

    November 26, 1990|TIM KAWAKAMI | TIMES STAFF WRITER

    SAN FRANCISCO — By the time Cleveland Gary was adroitly drop-kicking his way into the end zone, the Rams figured something strange and sweet was happening before their eyes.

    Maybe it was that pass-lateral-shovel from fullback Buford McGee to Gary for the Rams’ first touchdown that did it. Maybe it was that confusing amalgamation of defenses the Rams threw at Joe Montana, making him look mortal at last.

    Maybe it was the Candlestick Park wind and gray sheets of rain that seemed to comfort the Rams, not rattle them.

    “We’ve had a tough season, but today was our day,” McGee said. “We felt that from the beginning, and we deserved it.”
    Whatever it was, the 4-7 Rams ended the winning streak of the San Francisco 49ers at 18 games Sunday, 28-17, at least briefly resurrecting some of the distant memories of a season ago.
    And it was a victory that cooled for now any speculation that Coach John Robinson could lose his job because of the Rams’ disappointing play this year.
    “That’s the way we played last year,” center Doug Smith said with a broad smile, “and unfortunately, it hasn’t been the way things have gone very much this year.
    “But we had that air of confidence, that belief that we were going to go ahead and do it. Jim (Everett) just said, ‘Hey, this is us, this is who we are, this is how we play football, and let’s not forget it.’ ”
    Robinson, who had no intention of turning the improbable victory into his own personal salvation, chose to credit the Rams’ dominating 17-play, 10:27 drive that ended with Gary’s soccer-style, one-yard touchdown run, his third and most important touchdown of the day.
    On that drive, the Rams started on their 10-yard line after Vince Newsome intercepted a Montana pass, one of three picked off by the Rams. With 14:28 left to go and gamely protecting a 21-17 lead, the Rams had to score or else leave the game in the hands of Montana.
    “We had to move it,” Gary said. “Just took our time, and we did it.”
    Slowly, methodically, the Rams took it out of Montana’s dangerous hands, and put it into Gary’s, which are dangerous for many reasons.
    And on the last play of the drive, on third-and-goal from the 49er one-yard line, Gary, who had lost a fumble earlier, let the ball slip from his hands, kicked it along the ground once, then simply picked it up about four yards from the goal-line and went in untouched to put the game away with 2:31 to play.
    “When you see something like that, I guess you know things are going right,” said McGee, who, in addition to his passing exploits, carried a season-high six times for 36 rough-and-tumble yards and a touchdown. McGee also mentioned a tipped pass to receiver Flipper Anderson on the drive as a sure sign, and he was hard to argue with.
    After the Gary touchdown, cornerback Bobby Humphery intercepted a Montana pass, and the Rams had pulled off their third consecutive regular-season victory in this park.

    And had found at least a measure of the self-respect lost in the week-by-week crisis of their 1990 season.
    “We needed that,” Robinson said. “It was a win that is very gratifying to us. Obviously, it makes it more gratifying to do it against a great football team. They’re one of the great teams of all-time.”
    But not when a constantly changing, hard-to-pin-down Ram defense is holding Montana to 22-for-37 passing, for 235 mostly undramatic yards, and forcing six costly 49er turnovers. Not when receiver Anderson is making sharp cuts on a wet track, slicing up the 49er secondary for eight catches and 149 yards.
    And not when a 49er team that had allowed just one rushing touchdown all year and was the No. 1 team against the rush allows three running touchdowns and 111 yards in 37 carries.
    “We’ve beaten this team before,” Gary said, explaining how a 3-7 team could come into a game with the 49ers so assured. “What would make us believe that somebody was invincible? They’re a good football team, but we’re not a bad football team ourselves.”
    What happened early was that the Rams, who have been losing ugly all season long, finally got the chance and the dreary climate to pull the previously unblemished 49ers down to their level.
    With the football bouncing over heads, through hands and generally away from the 49ers, the Rams found the sure grip and capitalized on the 49er turnovers.
    The first quarter was wild, as the Rams and 49ers traded the ball back and forth a combined five times, including three on successive plays.
    Gary opened the unofficial rugby scrum in the mud when 49er defensive back Don Griffin stripped the football away early in the first quarter. On the next play, Montana was blindsided by Ram linebacker Bret Faryniarz, lost the ball and linebacker Kevin Greene was there to recover.
    On the next play, Everett (16 for 27 for 224 yards and an interception) missed tight end Pete Holohan, and 49er safety Dave Waymer stepped in for the interception. But after a two-play miscue respite, 49er fullback Tom Rathman fumbled when Ram safety Vince Newsome crunched him, leaving it for Greene to fall on it again.

    Three plays later, the Rams razzle-dazzled the 49ers’ defense, with McGee taking an inside handoff on third-and-short, plunging into the line, then as he was falling, flipping the ball sideways to Gary, who trailed him to the sideline. All Gary had to do was haul the lateral-pass in and blow by the confused secondary for a 22-yard scoring reception.

    “My job is just to fake the run and get it to Cleveland,” said McGee, who earned a game ball for his efforts.

    After more messy play–a Montana interception, a bunch of sacks and three punts–a fumble by Jerry Rice right into the hands of linebacker Mike Wilcher gave the Ram offense the ball on the 49er 29-yard line early in the second quarter.

    Three plays later, Gary hurdled over the middle of the 49er line and skipped into the end zone for a 10-yard touchdown run and a 14-0 lead.

    The 49ers’ offense and Montana continued to struggle into the second quarter, but snapped out of it with a nine-play, 39-yard touchdown drive after the defense had pinned the Rams inside their five-yard line.

    Montana hit receiver John Taylor with a lob over Darryl Henley for the five-yard score to cut the deficit to 14-7.

    But on the next series, Everett hooked up with Anderson two times for a combined 71 yards on their way to a six-play, 80-yard scoring drive finished by a six-yard McGee touchdown run.

    The 49ers opened the second half with the wind and drove down to the Ram two-yard line, but stalled out after three tries at the end zone, then couldn’t even put the 20-yard field goal through when the snap came in too high.

    “I don’t think they ever had a rhythm,” Robinson said. “I’ve always believed that when Joe Montana gets into a rhythm, you might as well pack your bags and go home.”

    Rice and Taylor, two guys who have killed the Rams in the past, combined for 12 catches for only 106 yards and one touchdown.

    But on their next possession, Montana completed three passes for 62 yards, including a 23-yard scoring toss to running Harry Sydney. That made it 21-14 with 6:05 left in the third.

    After another Ram punt, San Francisco closed the Ram lead to four points by going 31 yards on eight plays, finishing it on a 42-yard Mike Cofer field goal.

    The 49ers threatened on their next possession, but Montana lofted one to Rice downfield too softly, allowing Newsome to slide in for the interception at the Ram 10.

    That’s when the drive began and the Rams’ 1990 nightmare ended–at least for a week.

    in reply to: Tweets – 10/15 Rams sign WR Nick Williams, cut K Santos #92440
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    I’m not too sure that the Rams win the last 2 games with Ficken.

    Cairo Santos wasn’t perfect but made some important kicks

    in reply to: reactions, Denver game #92359
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    McVay’s Rams are pretty good at those 4th qtr time consuming nail in the coffin drives…. granted the nails got a little loose today…

    Seattle and Denver are not easy places to win… it takes a good team to win back to back in places like that….the Rams are a pretty good team

    in reply to: Future..? …how does their schedule look now? #92239
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    Playing in Denver worries me too…. never an easy win there for any NFL team especially in the snow.

    BTW the last win by the Anaheim Rams was against John Elway’s Broncos

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    in reply to: Donald and Suh to blame for poor run defense? #92237
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    Marcas Peters constantly watching for interceptions instead of playing his man doesn’t help with the pass defense either.

    In all the years of watching football at the NFL, college, college intramural, high school, jr high flag, sandlot tackle, two hand touch street, Tudor Electric football, TECMO et el, I don’t recall ever seeing consistent blown wide open coverage like last week in Seattle.

    Peters was unbelievable…… can Hekker play corner?

    in reply to: what Denver fans are saying #92177
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    Mahomes:

    21-30 yard range, completion percentage: 53.8%
    31+ yards, completion percentage: 18%
    everything over 20 yards: 37.5%

    Goff:

    21-30 yard range, completion percentage: 85.7%
    31+ yards, completion percentage: 50%
    everything over 20 yards: 72.7%

    Damn, Goff is playing great right now.

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