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June 17, 2020 at 9:55 am in reply to: police culture & training, including former police speak out #116658
joemadParticipantThat was a good read zn…
I know a few a cops, some told me that they lost faith in humanity before becoming bastardized….
joemadParticipantVanilla Mocha please……. make it a venti.
Starbucks (SBUX) announced on Friday it would allow employees to wear apparel in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, bowing to an intense social media campaign even as the company moves to crank out over 250,000 specialty shirts of its own.
This week, Starbucks was hit with online backlash and renewed calls for a boycott, following reports that it has banned employees from wearing pins and t-shirts at work in support of Black Lives Matter protests.
However, the reason for the policy is pretty technical, despite accusations to the contrary. To address the issue, Starbucks is planning to crank out hundreds of thousands of apparel items in support of a movement demanding change — but will also let its employees wear their own gear immediately.
“As we talked about earlier this week, we’re designing new t-shirts with the graphic below to demonstrate our allyship and show we stand together in unity,” Starbucks executives wrote in a letter to employees entitled “Standing together against racial injustice.”
The note added: “Until these arrive, we’ve heard you want to show your support, so just be you. Wear your BLM pin or t-shirt. We are so proud of your passionate support of our common humanity. We trust you to do what’s right while never forgetting Starbucks is a welcoming third place where all are treated with dignity and respect.”
‘Designed for partners, by partners, our Starbucks Black Partner Network and allies created the t-shirt to recognize the historic significance of this time. Together, we’re saying: Black Lives Matter and it’s going to take ALL of us, working together, to affect change,’ Starbucks executives wrote in a memo on Friday.View photos
‘Designed for partners, by partners, our Starbucks Black Partner Network and allies created the t-shirt to recognize the historic significance of this time. Together, we’re saying: Black Lives Matter and it’s going to take ALL of us, working together, to affect change,’ Starbucks executives wrote in a memo on Friday.
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The company’s ban on personal apparel wasn’t specifically crafted for Black Lives Matter, nor did it recently take effect. Instead, a long-standing dress-code among Starbucks employees — known internally as “partners” — states that clothing accessories need to be company-issued, and can’t “advocate a political, religious or personal issue.”According to a weekly update sent to baristas obtained by BuzzFeed News, store managers recently asked Starbucks leadership about employee requests to wear pins or t-shirts supporting Black Lives Matter. The memo pointed to Starbucks’ dress code, which states:
“Partners may only wear buttons or pins issued to the partner by Starbucks for special recognition or for advertising a Starbucks-sponsored event or promotion; and one reasonably sized and placed button or pin that identifies a particular labor organization or partner’s support for that organization, except if it interferes with safety or threatens to harm customer relations or otherwise unreasonably interferes with Starbucks public image. Pins must be securely fastened. Partners are not permitted to wear buttons or pins that advocate a political, religious or personal issue.”
According to the bulletin, Starbucks’ head of diversity and inclusion accused “agitators who misconstrue the fundamental principles of the Black Lives Matter movement — and in certain circumstances, intentionally repurpose them to amplify divisiveness.”
A spokesperson told Yahoo Finance in an email that “Black lives matter, and Starbucks is committed to doing our part in ending system racism. We respect all of our partners’ opinions and beliefs, and encourage them to bring their whole selves to work while adhering to our dress code policy with a commitment to create a safe and welcoming Third Place environment for all.”
250,000 t-shirts underway
Barista Sarah Dacuno, left, is embraced by assistant manager Lindsey Pringle outside the Pike Place Market Starbucks, commonly referred to as the original Starbucks, as they prepare to close it for the day Tuesday, May 29, 2018, in Seattle. The first Starbucks cafe was located nearby in the early 1970’s. Starbucks closed more than 8,000 stores nationwide on Tuesday to conduct anti-bias training, the next of many steps the company is taking to try to restore its tarnished image as a hangout where all are welcome. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)View photos
Barista Sarah Dacuno, left, is embraced by assistant manager Lindsey Pringle outside the Pike Place Market Starbucks, commonly referred to as the original Starbucks, as they prepare to close it for the day Tuesday, May 29, 2018, in Seattle. The first Starbucks cafe was located nearby in the early 1970’s. Starbucks closed more than 8,000 stores nationwide on Tuesday to conduct anti-bias training, the next of many steps the company is taking to try to restore its tarnished image as a hangout where all are welcome. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)
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According to BuzzFeed, some Starbucks partners expressed disappointment that Black Lives Matter attire isn’t permitted at work under the dress code. Those quoted in the article specifically pointed out that many employees wear buttons for LGBTQ rights, which were issued by Starbucks.joemadParticipantjoemadParticipantSorry Jack. 17 years….
joemadParticipanthave faith, Lovie Smith replaced Peter Guinta in 2001…….
joemadParticipantCongratulations… good to hear that mom and the baby are doing well
May 15, 2020 at 12:57 pm in reply to: Study Shows One Thing [masks] Could Cause 80% Decrease In COVID-19 Cases #114943joemadParticipanti’m glad that my mask has the old Rams helmet on it…..
joemadParticipant4 East coast games that have a 10:00 AM kick off… all before Nov…
May 1, 2020 at 11:59 am in reply to: armed protestors i Michigan’s State House — & sources of lockdown protest #114461joemadParticipanthttps://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-30-2020
April 30, 2020
Heather Cox Richardson
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In America, we elect our lawmakers, and the winners are supposed to be supported by a majority of voters. Once elected, leaders from different parties are supposed to come to agreements about policy through informed debate. That system sometimes frustrates people who hold extreme views that they think should be at the heart of our laws. They can’t get what they want through the democratic process, because most people disagree with them. So they try to get their way by threats.This is exactly what happened today in Michigan, where armed protesters stormed the statehouse. Legislators there were discussing whether to extend Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home orders past their expiration date at midnight tonight. To stop debate and get their way, men with guns paced the balcony above the lawmakers, some of whom had donned bullet-proof vests. Others, held back by the capitol police, tried to break into the legislative chamber.
Later in the day, Trump tried a more genteel version of the same intimidation. Republican leaders are angry that Democratic states have social welfare systems paid for by taxes, a system they insist hurts the country by redistributing wealth from those at the top of society—the “makers,” who are the ones that truly understand how an economy functions best—to the “takers,” who simply fritter money away. Until the coronavirus, there was little Republicans at the national level could do to bring Democratic state governments like those of New York, Massachusetts, and California to heel.
Now, though, states are reeling as the cratering economy has sapped the tax dollars that make up their main stream of revenue. They estimate they need $500 billion to tide them over until the economy picks back up. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has suggested they should be forced into bankruptcy, which would permit federal judges, many of whom share the same ideology as Republican leaders, to choose which parts of their debt the states would be able to honor. According to former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum, they have made it clear that they would not accept any new taxes under such a reordering, and that the first things on the chopping block would be social welfare programs.
Today, Trump tried a new tactic. He told reporters that he would be willing to consider funding for the states—he defines them as “Democrat states”– but “if we do that we’re going to have to get something for it.”
This is, of course, the same sort of quid pro quo (I hate that term: it just means “something for something, as in, “I do something for you; you do something for me.”) Trump demanded from Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. In that case, his effort to use the power of the federal government to force an ally to manufacture dirt on his opponent led to his impeachment for abuse of power.
The Senate acquitted him, but in a remarkably prescient moment, Stanford Law Professor Pamela Karlan said to the House Judiciary Committee: “Imagine living in a part of Louisiana or Texas that’s prone to devastating hurricanes and flooding. What would you think if you lived there and your governor asked for a meeting with the president to discuss getting disaster aid that Congress has provided for? What would you think if that president said, ‘I would like you do to us a favor?’…. Wouldn’t you know in your gut that such a president has abused his office? That he’d betrayed the national interest, and that he was trying to corrupt the electoral process?”
Indeed, Trump is willing to use any means he can to ensure his reelection as polling shows him underwater pretty much everywhere. Big in the news today is that he has asked intelligence agencies to assess whether the coronavirus began in an ill-managed Chinese lab, although scientists say the genetics of the virus indicate it began in bats.
Trump has blamed the World Health Organization for America’s dire straits, and now is blaming China (which certainly was too secretive about whether or not the disease could be transmitted from person to person). He insists he has seen evidence that the coronavirus originated in a Chinese lab—although US intelligence services deny it—and his administration is talking about demanding reparations from China, a move that can only be seen as propaganda for the upcoming election. (China would never consider such payments, and pushing the issue will likely hurt our ability to figure out how to combat the virus.)
The other big story today is Trump’s attacks on presumptive Democratic presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden, designed to inoculate Trump against similar attacks. Trump insists that Biden has mental impairments that make him unsuitable for the presidency, an echo of the many stories of Trump’s own mental impairment. Neither are young men, but Biden’s stuttering is well-known, and likely behind some of his problems speaking. This attack on Biden’s health is similar to the attacks the Trump campaign made on Hillary Clinton in 2016, arguing that she was too ill to serve as president.
Second, Trump and his supporters are hammering on Tara Reade’s accusations that Biden raped her. This accusation would inoculate Trump from the sixteen credible accusations made against him, and is harder for Democrats to address, especially as supporters of Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders have joined in the chorus for Biden to resign in favor of their candidate.
Democrats are torn between their support for the #MeToo Movement in which myriad women related their experiences with sexual harassment and assault, and their concern that Reade’s vague accusation is related to the 2020 campaign, especially since her story has been inconsistent in ways that are unlike the usual inconsistencies in traumatized rape victims. There are a number of smart explications of the Reade accusation that I will link in the notes, most of which suggest there are serious problems with her account, but I thought the smartest approach to these accusations came from women’s health journalist Lindsay Beyerstein.
The problem with the way we approach cases of sexual assault, she says, is that we treat them as if they are uncommon. In fact, they are quite common, and women are as unlikely to lie about them as they are about any other common crime. We should start from a presumption that they are telling the truth, as you would if someone told you they had been mugged. But those claims of a common crime should still be evaluated if they are questioned. If I tell you I was mugged, and you say, “But you were with me the whole time and no one bothered us,” my claims need to be investigated. I am not entitled to be believed automatically.
The Biden camp has been quiet on the issue, determined not to let Trump shape the issues of the 2020 election as he did that of 2016, but as Trump continues to harp on it, it might well weaken support for Biden on the left.
Still, Trump’s narrative is not gaining the traction it might have before the pandemic. Today, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, told reporters that he had the plane with 500,000 coronavirus tests his wife procured from South Korea land at Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport (BWI), rather than Dulles international Airport in Virginia, to make sure the federal government would not seize the shipment. He went on to say the National Guard was protecting the tests at an undisclosed location out of fear that the federal government would swoop in to take them after all. Such a public accusation, based as it is in verifiable other cases of feds taking state shipments, suggest that Republicans so distrust the president they are willing to break with him.
Perhaps even more of a bellwether than Hogan was that one of South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham’s big donors has decided to support Graham’s challenger, Democrat Jaime Harrison, in the 2020 contest. The former chairman and president of Michelin in North America, Richard Wilkerson, said of Harrison on Tuesday that “I am confident that as our next U.S. Senator he will be a tireless advocate for creating well-paying jobs, improving our state’s healthcare system, and training the next generation for the jobs of tomorrow. Jaime is the perfect candidate to bring together South Carolinians from all walks of life. I am proud to endorse Jaime today, and I know first hand he is the change South Carolina needs.” While the Cook Political Report, a nonpartisan election observer, says that Graham has his victory locked up, Wilkerson’s public shift suggests that Wilkerson thinks the state might flip, and wants to be covered if it does.
A final note: on this date in 1789, George Washington was sworn in as American’s first president. He later wrote to a friend about the new system: “That the Government, though not absolutely perfect, is one of the best in the World, I have little doubt.”
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Michigan: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/michigan-armed-protesters-debate-whitmer
joemadParticipantDraft Tracker:
joemadParticipantEast Coast bias
Gov of CA has done a much better job than Cuomo.
Newsome implemented quarantines sooner than NY did… Newsome took a lot of shit for doing that, but it’s paid off big time.
Newsome also dealt with medical equipment shortages better than NY did. So much so that CA has exported equipment surplus to needy states and countries.
Just be glad that John COCKS err Cox from Indiana didn’t win the Ca governor’s election a few years back… California would be a fucking mess today….
April 2, 2020 at 11:18 am in reply to: what’s happening to protective gear in national stockpile? #113282joemadParticipant“If I were looking back at today from the vantage point of a hundred years from now, I would write that the government, whose systems for handling a crisis have been dismantled, is faltering badly as inexperienced officials are trying to respond to a pandemic by relying on the private sector.”
March 31, 2020 (Tuesday)Our coronavirus numbers continue to climb. Today America has more than 185,000 known…
Posted by Heather Cox Richardson on Tuesday, March 31, 2020
April 1, 2020 (Wednesday)
After a very long day of teaching on-line (which I find exhausting) and celebrating the new book’s publication date (woo hoo!) I fell deeply asleep on the couch early this evening and awoke hours later to read the news. In that quiet clarity of being newly rested in the middle of the night, reading the news felt very much like history research, when you are dropped into the sources and getting a sense of what the world looked like at a certain moment in time.
If I were looking back at today from the vantage point of a hundred years from now, I would write that the government, whose systems for handling a crisis have been dismantled, is faltering badly as inexperienced officials are trying to respond to a pandemic by relying on the private sector.
Hardly a novel interpretation, but it really jumps out when you spend a couple of hours reading the day’s news all at once.
Here’s what I saw:
The news broke that the United States has been sending medical supplies to other countries while our own health care workers don’t have masks or PPE (personal protective equipment). Politico revealed that an administration official called counterparts in Thailand to ask for PPE only to be told by a confused official on the other end who said that the U.S. was shipping those very supplies to Thailand. One shipment had already arrived, and another was on its way. Vice President Mike Pence, who is in charge of the administration’s coronavirus task force, immediately halted the shipment. It appears that there has been no coordination between the administration and USAID, the United States Agency for International Development, so we have apparently been exporting the very supplies we need at home.
This created a furor over the fact that we also sent 17.8 tons of medical supplies, including masks, gowns, gauze, and respirators to China in February, after the severity of our own impending crisis was already clear. The administration has said these supplies were “donated,” but I have not been able to track down by whom.
Politico also broke the story that since March 12, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner has been in charge of his own coronavirus response team to get the private sector on board to fight the crisis. Trump has been reluctant to activate the Defense Production Act, a law that enables the government to encourage manufacturers to produce vital equipment and protects them from losses when they do. Bizarrely, the Trump administration—like all others since the law went into effect in the 1950s—uses this act all the time to respond to natural disasters, to move supplies around during emergencies, and so on, but refuses to do so now. Instead, it appears Trump has tapped Kushner to coordinate with private industry. In that capacity, he and his outside experts—including a number from the consulting firm McKinsey—are acting as a sort of independent cell without government oversight and are overruling the teams already in place.
We learned that the Obama administration tried five years ago to address what it perceived as a lack of ventilators in case of a pandemic, paying $13.8 million to a Pennsylvania manufacturer—a subsidiary of a huge Dutch appliance and technology corporation– to create a cheap, easy ventilator to stockpile. The FDA cleared the device in September and the Department of Health and Human Services, which had provided the $13.8 million, ordered 10,000 of them for $3,280 each. Instead of providing those ventilators, the company instead hiked its prices and sold them overseas. Trump has declined to use the DPA to get the company to produce the ventilators it developed for the U.S. Instead, Kushner’s team is negotiating with it to build 43,000 more expensive hospital ventilators for the U.S.
Pence tried to suggest that the administration’s slow response was because China had been slow about admitting the full extent of the disease and that the Centers for Disease Control had initially mischaracterized the danger from it as low. (While China did try to quash information about the disease, the CDC was clear about it.) Pence continued: “I don’t believe the President has ever belittled the threat of the coronavirus.” (There is overwhelming evidence Trump did exactly this.)
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has not wanted to take the responsibility for closing down his state and has been trying to get Trump to do it. But Trump doesn’t want to do it either. So the two of them have been trying to get the other to do it as the infection and death rates in Florida climb. Finally, today, DeSantis made the call, but he exempted churches, synagogues, and houses of worship from its provisions, calling them essential businesses. This will permit religious leaders like Rodney Howard-Browne to keep his megachurch open. On Monday, sheriff’s deputies arrested Howard-Browne for unlawful assembly and a violation of health emergency rules.
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp has finally issued shelter-in-place order for Georgia, too, as the state reported 4,748 cases of Covid-19 and 56 deaths. He said a key change was the recent news that people could transmit the virus without showing symptoms, but of course that news is not recent; we have known it virtually since the beginning.
DeSantis has another crisis on his hands, too. A cruise ship with infected passengers is sitting off the coast of Florida, and he doesn’t want it to dock in the state. Trump is not taking responsibility for that, either. So DeSantis has finally announced he will take off the ship the 49 people on it who hail from Florida… but not the others, including those from other countries, who continue to float on a ship with disease on it. This situation needs an immediate solution.
The federal government had a similar problem aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt, an aircraft carrier where Covid-19 was spreading. Tired of waiting for his superiors to get his people to safety, the ship’s commander wrote a scathing letter claiming that keeping the sailors on the ship was “an unnecessary risk and breaks faith with those Sailors entrusted to our care.” After the letter was made public, Navy officials agreed to offload sailors to quarantine in Guam to keep the disease at bay.
Georgia Senator Kelly Loeffler, appointed by Kemp and married to the CEO of the company that owns the New York Stock Exchange, revealed more stock trades today that took place after she had attended a Senate briefing on the severity of the coming epidemic. She sold stock in retail stores and bought stock in a company that makes PPEs. She maintains she has done nothing wrong.
And Devin Nunes (R-CA), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee and associate of indicted political operative Lev Parnas said on the Fox News Channel today he thought that closing schools was “way overkill” and that it was hurting the economy unnecessarily. California has more than 6,900 cases and at least 150 people there have died from it.
Finally, it appears that Trump will continue golfing despite the crisis. Although staying mum about who the “dignitary” they need to protect is, the Secret Service has signed a $45,000 contract to rent golf carts in Sterling, Virginia, where Trump has a golf course that remains open despite Virginia’s stay-at-home order.
It’s important to note that any of these stories might have good explanations. Maybe shoring up USAID was worth losing our PPEs, or there’s a good reason not to use the DPA to get more ventilators from the company who contracted to produce them. But if so, we are not hearing those explanations. Instead, what jumps out at this hodge-podge of stories is the lack of organization and expertise, and the apparent every-man-for-himself attitude at the highest levels of government.
That attitude sure doesn’t seem to be producing an effective response to the global pandemic that is threatening our lives.
joemadParticipantWhoopi sucks….
March 31, 2020 at 4:11 pm in reply to: stadium work continues (3/30), some workers worry about covid-19 #113234joemadParticipant.
URL = https://www.kron4.com/
SF Bay Area implements tougher guidelines… will most likely expand to LA
Most construction—residential and commercial—is prohibited
Six Bay Area counties extend stay-at-home order to May 3 with new guidelines | KRON4
SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) – The stay-at-home order impacting six Bay Area counties has been extended through May 3 in an effort to curb the spread of the coronavirus, officials confirmed Tuesday.
The extended order also comes with new instructions for residents and essential businesses.
The previous three-week stay-at-home order was set to expire on April 7.
Health officials said the first order has been effective in reducing the rate of transmission of coronavirus, but they also said it is not enough.
The counties under the extended order include Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, and Santa Clara.
Like the previous order, the new order requires people to stay at home except for doing essential activities, such as grocery shopping.
The extension adds some clarifying language around essential business and activities, as well as some new directives, including:
* Use of playgrounds, dog parks, public picnic areas, and similar recreational areas is prohibited. These areas must be closed to public use.
* Use of shared public recreational facilities such as golf courses, tennis and basketball courts, pools, and rock walls is prohibited. These facilities must be closed for recreational use.
* Sports requiring people to share a ball or other equipment must be limited to people in the same household
* Requires essential businesses to develop a social distancing protocol before April 3
* Most construction—residential and commercial—is prohibited
* Funerals limited to no more than 10 people attending
* Essential businesses expanded to include service providers that enable residential transactions (notaries, title companies, Realtors, etc.); funeral homes and cemeteries; moving companies, rental car companies and rideshare services that specifically enable essential activities
* Essential businesses that continue to operate facilities must scale down operations to their essential component only
The same six Bay Area counties – Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo and Santa Clara – announced last week school closures would be extended through May 1.joemadParticipantI think Joe is gonna lose if he gets the nomination.
joemadParticipantI think Bruce Arians is very underrated.
If he can lay 50+ on the Rams with famous Jamis at QB….
Bilichick will be ok too, still gets to play shit teams in his division
But fuck em all …. GO RAMS!
joemadParticipantso, is this like the “death panels” that Sarah Palin warned us about when ACA came out?
joemadParticipantGoat head looks cool.
joemadParticipantThey’re fucking with us..
March 20, 2020 at 12:58 am in reply to: Will CA’s “stay at home” order stop stadium? — don’t know yet #112682joemadParticipantWe’ve been in quarantine for a week in the SF Bay Area
Tesla (in Alameda County in SF Bay Area) finally buckled to the stay home mandate and will cease operations this Monday.
I can handle the LAMC for another year….
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/03/tesla-says-it-will-shut-down-its-fremont-factory-next-monday/
Tesla says it will shut down its Fremont factory—next Monday
Since Monday, Tesla has been under pressure from officials in Alameda County to shut down operations of its car factory in Fremont, California, to fight the spread of the coronavirus. On Thursday, Tesla finally announced it would halt vehicle manufacturing in Fremont.
“We have decided to temporarily suspend production at our factory in Fremont, from end of day March 23, which will allow an orderly shutdown,” Tesla said in a post on its website.March 23 is next Monday—a full week after officials in seven Bay Area counties ordered non-essential businesses to close down. To make sure there was no confusion about Tesla’s status, Alameda County tweeted on Tuesday that Tesla was not an essential business.
But Tesla persisted. In recent weeks, Elon Musk has been a vocal skeptic of efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus. “Danger of panic still far exceeds danger of corona,” Musk tweeted on Monday.
Earlier this week, Tesla claimed that it fell under a federal category of “national critical infrastructure” and hence was free to continue operating under federal law—even as automakers in Detroit announced they were suspending operations.
Operating the Fremont factory for an extra week gives Tesla time to make a few thousand extra vehicles. It’s also an extra week when coronavirus could spread among Tesla employees—though no coronavirus-afflicted workers have been identified so far.Tesla says that it will also suspend operations at its solar panel factory in New York. Tesla’s battery factory in Nevada, dubbed the “Gigafactory,” will continue operating, Tesla says.
It will be costly for Tesla to have its Fremont factory sit idle while its workers shelter in place. Luckily, Tesla says, it had $6.3 billion in the bank at the start of the year—before the company raised another $2.3 billion from capital markets. That should be enough cash to keep Tesla in business even if the coronavirus forces it to leave its factory idle for months.joemadParticipantone of my favorite Ram plays ever…. avoiding a TD to kill the clock in Detroit.
I loved Gurley… someday we’ll understand what happened in the week in-between the Dallas playoff game and the New Orleans Championship game in 2018…….. not only his knee, but his confidence. Something happened to his confidence in New Orleans… not sure if it stemmed from the love that McVay showed to CJ Anderson…..
I hope he doesn’t end up in SF, or the NFC West…..
joemadParticipantSpringtime!
Pablo Neruda
“You can cut all the flowers but you cannot keep spring from coming.”joemadParticipantRobert Reich
Friends,Joe Biden is a perfect mouthpiece for wherever and whatever the conventional political wisdom is in the…
Posted by Robert Reich on Monday, March 16, 2020
Friends,
Joe Biden is a perfect mouthpiece for wherever and whatever the conventional political wisdom is in the Democratic Party at any given time.
Years ago, when Biden voted for the Iraq war, for trade deals, and for debt collection, they reflected the conventional Democratic wisdom. But now that conventional Democratic wisdom has shifted leftward – due largely to Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren — Biden has shifted, too.
He has shifted his position on free public college – from favoring tuition-free education only at two-year community colleges to supporting it at four-year public universities and colleges as well, for every student whose annual family income doesn’t exceed $125,000. (This was Bernie’s position several years ago.)
Biden also decided to support Elizabeth Warren’s proposal for making bankruptcy far less onerous for middle-class Americans, including making it available for former students facing onerous student-debt burdens and for people facing major medical debts. This marked a major change from the bankruptcy legislation Biden helped turn into law in 2005.
He has shifted slightly on Medicare for All — now calling for a public option (which had been on the Left of the Obama-era conventional wisdom). He hasn’t yet called for a Green New Deal, but I could imagine him doing so if he gets the nomination and if progressives pull the conventional Democratic wisdom to the Left.
If he becomes president, Biden will not lead any progressive charge. He won’t be a Lyndon Johnson or an FDR or Teddy Roosevelt. But to the extent progressives lead the charge and are successful in changing conventional Democratic wisdom, Biden will reliably follow.
RR
joemadParticipantWith leaders from all over the world focusing on the safety of their citizens, in connection with the coronavirus, our “leader” is focusing solely on his own political survival.
Just curious, do you think the timely drop outs from Mayor Pete, Amy K, Money Bags Bloomberg, were for political survival or for the safety of citizens?
1) Change Management 101: Most people will not change their behavioral patterns unless they experience PAIN…..
Perhaps another 4 years of Trump is the pain that this country needs to finally change behaviors to be better informed of the actual issues and vote for candidates that actually support their beliefs, needs, and wants instead of propping up status quo losers like Dukakis, Mondale, HRC, etc….
2 or 3 more Kavanaugh clones in the SCOTUS is going to be very painful, but that might be what it takes to get people to finally wake up.
Most people want health care
Most people agree in a women’s right to choose
Most people are OK with reduction in military spending.
Most people are OK with corporations paying their fair share of taxes…Vote for candidates that support your beliefs.
Right now, there’s 8 minutes left in the game, KC is losing to SF and has a 98% chance of losing the Super Bowl. Bernie ain’t Mahomes, but Biden is pretty far from being coach Shanahan. Bernie has better odds of beating Biden than KC did in beating SF this late in the game.
Let the debates play out and let’s finish the game. Vote for the best candidate.
If Biden wins and Bernie runs as a 3rd candidate to compete, vote for the candidate that best supports your beliefs, your needs and what is best for your country.
joemadParticipantJoe Byedumb and DNC want cancel the debate and not let the “system play out” and “play by the rules”
Keep fighting Mr Sanders!!! These young voters need to vote!
URL = https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1139546
From Debate in Vegas:
TODD: Guys, guys, we are at the end here. We are at the end here. I’ve got to let that one go.
We are less than two weeks away from a national primary. And I want to ask all of you this simple question. There’s a very good chance none of you are going to have enough delegates to the Democratic National Convention to clench this nomination, OK?
If that happens, I want all of your opinions on this. Should the person with the most delegates at the end of this primary season be the nominee, even if they are short of a majority? Senator Sanders, I’m going to let you go last here, because I know your view on this.So instead, I will start with you, Mayor Bloomberg.
BLOOMBERG: Whatever the rules of the Democratic Party are, they should be followed. And if they have a process, which I believe they do…
TODD: OK, I’m trying to do this yes or no to make it fast.BLOOMBERG: … everybody else — everybody can…
TODD: So you want the convention to work its will?
BLOOMBERG: Yes.
TODD: Senator Warren?WARREN: But a convention working its will means that people have the delegates that are pledged to them and they keep those delegates until you come to the convention.
TODD: Should the leading person?
WARREN: All of the people.
TODD: OK. All righty. Vice President Biden?BIDEN: Play by the rules.
TODD: Yes or no, leading person with the delegates, should they be the nominee or not?
BIDEN: No, let the process work its way out.
TODD: Mayor Buttigieg?BUTTIGIEG: Not necessarily. Not until there’s a majority.
TODD: Senator Klobuchar?
KLOBUCHAR: Let the process work.
TODD: Senator Sanders?SANDERS: Well, the process includes 500 super-delegates on the second ballot. So I think that the will of the people should prevail, yes. The person who has the most votes should become the nominee.
TODD: Thank you, guys. Five noes and a yes.joemadParticipantAnd Beto too I suppose. In fact I guess everyone not aligned with the “progressives” are full of shit. Maybe everyone is full of shit. Then again maybe none are and are simply people who want the best for their country and have different ideas on how to get there. I think its best for all to avoid the “if I can’t have it my way I’m going to take my ball and go home”.
or you can say, “if i can’t have it my way, i’ll openly go against the leading candidate who works hard for every vote he gets but will support another who is using old school connections to game the system”
Which candidate do you think is going to do a better job of representing the average American?????
i’ll say it again, fuck Mayor Pete and Amy K ……in addition fuck Joe too…. btw, didn’t he get arrested in South Africa on his way to visit Nelson Mandela?
joemadParticipantThis is like the day before a Ram Playoff game,
against Dallas.
At Dallas.I know i shouldnt get my hopes up. I mean this is the Amerikan public we are counting on. The amerikan fucking public.
I’d sooner count on an electorate made up of Orcs and Zombies.
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vyes, Tejas is the pivotal state of Super Tuesday….. btw The Rams are 3-2 in playoff games vs the Cowboys in Dallas……..
fucking Amy K and Mayor Pete are full of shit…..
joemadParticipantI agree WV, I think Bernie can kick Trump’s ass…..
joemadParticipantTrump wants Sanders as an opponent because he knows he can beat him in those decisive states. Nevertheless, if he is the nominee I will fight for him like I’ve never fought before. I only hope if a “moderate” is nominated each of you will do the same. The stakes are really high here.
Trump has already beat a moderate in those decisive states…. the question is, will HRC, Biden, Bloom, Pocahantas, Mayor Pete etc stand behind and rally behind Bernie, like he did with HRC in 2016?
February 26, 2020 at 3:09 pm in reply to: just some “no thread for em” various political tweets … 2/25 thru ? #111659joemadParticipantJohn Fugelsang@JohnFugelsang
ever notice how the Americans who really hate foreigners also tend to hate huge amounts of other Americans?WIKI = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fugelsang
Fugelsang (FEW-gull-sang) was born on Long Island, New York. Of Danish, German, and Irish descent,[3] he is the son of a former nun and former Franciscan Brother.[4]
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