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InvaderRam
Moderatorok i take that back. i do believe the rams could have gotten a first round pick for bradford, so i’m going to have to rethink this one.
InvaderRam
Moderatoryes. i think all this talk about how they could have gotten a first rounder for bradford is just speculation. i know that chip kelly claimed this is what happened, but i have my doubts. i think they got the best deal they could have possibly gotten.
did i want to see bradford go? no. a healthy bradford clearly would be the preference. i don’t think it’s even close. but would i have been willing to gamble another season and that much money to see if bradford can stay healthy? no. and then worse. you end up with nothing in the end. now. they have foles (who has his own injury concerns albeit not as bad) and another second rounder next year. they hedged their bet. i see the logic. and i would have done the same thing. now bradford could stay healthy for another year and help the eagles reach the playoffs. as long as foles has a solid season, i think i can live with that. and even if all that happens, i have doubts that bradford can continue to stay healthy after that.
but the important thing is that foles has a solid year. and they use that second rounder next year wisely.
InvaderRam
ModeratorLaram dont think Foles is the answer.
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Laram
My hope is that Foles does extremely well, but I have some serious concerns.… the answer in my mind is if you’re getting rid of Bradford, upgrade.
They got a player that’s healthy, now…but is he better?
I don’t think so.
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The Rams apparently had options, for their were other team(s) that had interest in Bradford.The Rams chose Nick Foles as the catalyst for the trade.
I think they chose the wrong catalyst.
The Rams need a franchise qb. They still don’t have one.
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LaramWell considering my views of Nick Foles and what he brings to the table, I would have to consider several other options.
Let’s say Cleveland was one of the other teams with interest. They have two 1st rd picks, 12 and 19th.
Could the Rams have traded Bradford to them for their 12th pick, 19th?
Could they have then traded their 10th and 12th or 19th to move up for Winston?
Or how about IF as you say the 2016 qb class is better than 2015, stockpile picks for next year and play the season with your boy Keenum?
Or how about Bradford to Cleveland for Hoyer and one of their 1st rd picks?
How about making some calls around the league being proactive, instead of waiting for somebody to call you.
That’s what most teams do when they actually want to move a player.
I’m spit balling here but with some reasonable options IMO.
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well ok. if the rams could have gotten 2 first round picks or even 1 first round pick. then shame on the rams.
i know kelly said he was offered a first rounder for bradford. but if that’s true. then i’d say kelly was dumb for turning that down.
InvaderRam
Moderatoryeah it sucks. such a good quarterback but so many elements out of his control.
and on top of that he couldn’t stay healthy for more than one season in a row. going all the way back to 2008.
but it was clear he had ability which makes it that much more frustrating.
InvaderRam
Moderatorthe dline has been very good. but more hype than actual substance. they need to be better what with all the draft capital that’s been spent in that area. just too inconsistent for me so far.
InvaderRam
Moderatorthis defense at some point has to be more consistent. as much as people talk about how impressive this defense is, they finished in the bottom half of the rankings in total defense.
i want a top 5 defense. anything less i’d say is a failure.
InvaderRam
Moderatoryeah. i don’t think they keep jenkins or johnson. they still have gaines, but it’d be wise to draft a defensive back or two this year.
InvaderRam
Moderatoreven the great qbs had dips in performance at the start of their career.
it was probably a combination of things. bad luck, injuries, and defenses had some film on him.
it then comes down to how foles adjusts.
i don’t think he was as good as 2013 suggests, but he isn’t as bad as 2014 either. he’s still young and can get better.
InvaderRam
Moderatori think they need at least 3 offensive linemen. i’d prefer they at least re-sign joe barksdale and draft one. that leaves one more.
but i also think they got a real shot at one of amari cooper or kevin white. i’m not sure that’s an opportunity i’d want the rams to pass up. if i was snisher, i’d wait to see if i could get either of those two. if not, i’m trading back and picking the best olineman available.
i’d even consider defensive back if the right one was available.
InvaderRam
Moderatorif i was fisher, i’d still look into bringing in another wide receiver with that first rounder. my preference would be amari cooper if he’s available there.
InvaderRam
ModeratorI read, that Suh said, that he had more talent than he did.
“I haven’t said this a lot or to many people, more or less, but Nick is more athletically gifted than me, and he has an opportunity to be better than me, and that’s what I want to see out of him,” Suh said Wednesday, according to Ashley Dunkak of CBS Detroit.
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InvaderRam.
InvaderRam
Moderatori bet chris long was one of the guys who wasn’t happy. he’s pretty good friends with sam.
to jim it probably sucks having to cover a team that most likely won’t be there next season. and then on top of that they make him look a little foolish.
InvaderRam
Moderatorhaha! i’m way ahead of ya, ag!
InvaderRam
Moderatorbrett hundley in the second round.
InvaderRam
Moderatori think the chances of taking mariota are increasing by the day.
March 11, 2015 at 6:48 pm in reply to: reporters on the trade (Wagoner, Thomas, Clayton, King, & many more) #20119InvaderRam
Moderatorwell. this move will either make chip look like a genius or it will get him fired.
March 11, 2015 at 4:48 pm in reply to: Chip Kelly ( Was offered 1st rounder for Bradford this morning) #20100InvaderRam
ModeratorMike Clay @MikeClayNFL 9m9 minutes ago
Chip basically said the personnel around Bradford in St. Louis was to blame for his struggles. Hard to argue really.NFL on ESPN @ESPNNFL 19m19 minutes ago
Eagles coach Chip Kelly says he’s already been offered a 1st-round pick this morning for newly acquired QB Sam Bradford.Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 18m18 minutes ago
If Kelly was offered a 1st for Bradford, my guess is it has Browns written all over it. And if Kelly wanted Mariota he’d have taken it…if it was the browns who offered a first rounder it says a lot about how dumb the browns organization is.
InvaderRam
Moderatorbradford is only better than foles if he actually plays.
my expectation is that bradford doesn’t even start the season.
InvaderRam
Moderatormaybe. but they also signed wells and long. so they could also be wrong about this. like i said. i’m not disappointed. but i’m not overly thrilled either. it was a need and it was filled.
InvaderRam
Moderatori’m not disappointed although i always wonder if the idea of kendricks was always more appealing than the actual production.
we’ll see. maybe the shackles will be taken off this year.
InvaderRam
ModeratorInvaderRam wrote:
i just want to say that foles has huge hands.1 for nick.
Just how big are they?
10 5/8″. vavavavoom!
March 10, 2015 at 10:00 pm in reply to: reporters on the trade (Wagoner, Thomas, Clayton, King, & many more) #19919InvaderRam
Moderatoryeah. it all comes down to the oline and the running game on offense. i like tre mason. i think he can be at least very good. if they can find a complement to mason and if they can rebuild that oline, the offense should be fine.
the defense has been inconsistent. hopefully, they can put it all together this year. i think they should add another cornerback.
InvaderRam
Moderatori just want to say that foles has huge hands.
1 for nick.
March 10, 2015 at 10:06 am in reply to: Eagles rumors: Sanchez, Foles, Mariota … including Foles to Rams #19755InvaderRam
Moderatoranother consideration is that defenses started to get a book on foles. the question would then be can foles make adjustments to counteract that?
March 9, 2015 at 10:22 pm in reply to: Eagles rumors: Sanchez, Foles, Mariota … including Foles to Rams #19744InvaderRam
ModeratorInvaderRam wrote:
maybe the main problem in philadelphia was the fit. maybe in a ball control offense where the qb isn’t asked to do as much will help foles.i like it. he had a very promising sophomore season. followed by an average but disappointing third season. a little bit concerned by the injury last season but nothing that required reconstructive surgery. i think there’s a lot of potential there.
plus. big hands!!! haha!
It’s true that from 2013 and 2014, the Eagles went from 27th in passing attempts to 5th. How Foles fits into that will require a little math. Which I’ll do, but later.
ok. somebody needs to get on this asap. the suspense is killing me.
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InvaderRam.
InvaderRam
Moderatori’d say this is the year that jones has to somehow crack the starting oline, or he’s pretty much just a career backup.
March 9, 2015 at 7:36 pm in reply to: Eagles rumors: Sanchez, Foles, Mariota … including Foles to Rams #19732InvaderRam
Moderatormaybe the main problem in philadelphia was the fit. maybe in a ball control offense where the qb isn’t asked to do as much will help foles.
i like it. he had a very promising sophomore season. followed by an average but disappointing third season. a little bit concerned by the injury last season but nothing that required reconstructive surgery. i think there’s a lot of potential there.
plus. big hands!!! haha!
InvaderRam
Moderatorwell. yeah. i think it’s the right move. now we gotta find a way and replace them.
InvaderRam
Moderatorso which qbs in this draft came from a pro-style offense?
InvaderRam
Moderatori’d rather the rams not sign britt or barksdale and go after randall cobb. then draft offensive line.
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