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Is it considered a bad thing when your leading rusher is a WR, and he only had one carry? Is that a problem?
it WAS a problem… hahaha!
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. ogletree has made a lot of tackles but for some reason hasn’t looked all that impressive.
InvaderRamModeratori wonder where alec ogletree ranks.
good news about brown. although now i worry about saffold.
October 4, 2015 at 1:40 am in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31677InvaderRamModeratormarshawn lynch flourished under the zbs of seattle. maybe the rams are looking for something similar with gurley.
InvaderRamModeratorif you click on the link there are some other good videos.
October 3, 2015 at 8:02 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31656InvaderRamModeratorIt is all opinions. Everyone gets to have their own. Some are more interesting than others. 😉
i just want gurley and mason to be awesome. preferably starting against arizona.
October 3, 2015 at 7:53 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31654InvaderRamModeratorthe difference between inside and outside zone.
A very simple explanation of the zone runs, and the difference between inside zone and outside zone
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October 3, 2015 at 7:51 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31653InvaderRamModeratorthis is another on specifically the outside zone run.
Seahawks Scheme Analysis: “22” Personnel Package, Part II – The Outside Zone Run
October 3, 2015 at 7:22 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31650InvaderRamModeratorit seems to me the advantage would be flexibility. so if the defense calls the right play, the running game loses due to the inflexibility of the blocking call whereas in a zone blocking scheme, the blocking scheme can better adapt to the formation of the defense.
at least that’s my rudimentary understanding. maybe someone else can elaborate.
October 3, 2015 at 7:12 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31649InvaderRamModeratorwell if the zone blocking scheme is successful, the one thing we won’t know is if a man blocking scheme would have been just as successful. and if it would have been as successful, i’d really question why make the change.
i hope it doesn’t come to them having to scrap the zone blocking scheme. ultimately, i just want them to be successful. however they get there. but i just question why a zone blocking scheme. i’ll just have to trust that the coaches think this is the best scheme for this talent.
found this on the net.
the difference between the zone blocking scheme and man blocking scheme would explain robinson’s struggles as it seems to require more decision making from the olineman. to me that means they need reps. whereas in a man blocking scheme you know from the start of the play who you’re going to block.
InvaderRamModeratorRight now Aaron Donald is as close to unblockable as it gets in the NFL. He has outplayed Watt, and every other interior defender through three weeks of the season, and is on pace to rival the best seasons we have seen from Watt. Donald isn’t just good, he’s utterly terrifying, and quite possibly a generational talent in his own right.
It’s like talking about a Faulk caliber player just on defense.
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it is. it’s footballing genius on the field. true footballing genius. and i rarely throw the word genius around. i was hoping it would apply to quinn. maybe it will. but with donald. it’s becoming apparent.
and the last rams player i would use that on is faulk.
i feel blessed watching him play.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. the whole unit has to stop the run. but i just see genius blossoming here in donald. i was hoping quinn. but it looks like it’s gonna be donald. he has that same obsession that all the great ones do.
i read in the offseason to be weary how much of a ceiling donald actually had. well. it appears to be limitless at this short point of the season. you marry elite athleticism with elite preparation and elite intelligence and this is what you get.
but yeah. the whole defense has to take a cue from donald and dominate the opposing run game.
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October 3, 2015 at 5:04 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31637InvaderRamModeratorwhere i would really disagree is the fact that there was nothing they could do to alleviate the situation. they could have stayed strictly with a man blocking scheme. and i don’t see any good reason why they didn’t. it could just be arrogance on the part of the coaches. honestly. even with all their experience, zn. they aren’t the brightest nor most humble people in the world. so yeah. i agree with rfl a little in that i sense a little bit of hubris or cynicism. or whatever you want to call it.
it wouldn’t be the first time.
now. does it ruin the whole season? no. we knew it was gonna be a struggle either way. so as long as they get this figured out. in the end. i won’t care too much. i just wonder why they went zone blocking. and i have yet to read a good reason why they did.
InvaderRamModeratoranother article.
October 3, 2015 at 3:47 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31629InvaderRamModeratorag makes a good point about preseason preparation. i don’t think they took the optimal route. the oline should have played more snaps together.
however. one thing in the preseason that hampered the running game was the fact that mason and gurley were injured or not playing or practicing for much of it.
synchronization is important according to the internet and coaches for this zone blocking scheme. not just between linemen but between the running backs and the oline. not having those reps with gurley and mason has hurt them. did cunningham have an easier time running against seattle because he had all those reps with the first team? it’s interesting to consider.
again. i wrote earlier this week that i expected to see a difference against the arizona game. i think we will. i’m prediciting a semi-breakthrough for the running game.
also. i do agree that this fast start mostly applied to the defense. and i think everyone expected the offense to struggle a little bit. i don’t know about struggling this bad. and i think there are things the coaches could have done to alleviate that. he could have increased he live reps in preseason games. he could have gone predominantly man blocking to make it easier on the players. make the difference between 1-2 and 2-1 perhaps. but maybe fisher is more concerned with keeping the players rested. keeping them fresh. maybe he figures the difference would have only resulted in the difference of 1 or 2 games over the course of a season. and it was a fair tradeoff if you can keep them fresh for later on in the season. it’s a risk. but maybe that’s the risk you take when you know your job is safe.
we’ll see. if the running games makes significant progress against arizona, it might not even matter all that much in the long run.
October 3, 2015 at 1:17 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Run-first Rams' struggle go beyond the basics #31613InvaderRamModeratorbut there is a point to be made here. why did the rams decide to go to this wide zone blocking scheme?
the running backs and the oline have never been in this scheme before. it doesn’t seem to be playing to their strengths. why did the coaches decide to install this into an offense that is already inexperienced to begin with?
now they don’t run this zone blocking scheme exclusively. from what i’ve read they still do man blocking at times. did they try to install too much at once? couldn’t these new schemes have been integrated more gradually? if it requires synchronicity between linemen and between linemen and backs when the line and backs were still trying to get some chemistry, was it wise to try and install a blocking scheme that apparently none of these guys had done before?
seems to me they should have been more heavily slanted toward the man blocking with the zone blocking gradually pipetted in. so in a sense it is a little cynical? or maybe they have done this, and it still is flopping. i don’t know how i would feel about that. that might make me feel worse.
i don’t know the running game for the first three games has had many moving parts. first game cunningham. then second game they try to integrate mason. third game gurley gets his feet wet. meanwhile the oline is still trying to find their footing.
at present the oline is still healthy. mason and gurley are set as the backs. and even more time on the field and in the tape room to get the timing down. so we’ll see.
but still. is this zone blocking scheme necessary? what advantages does it offer over man blocking which perhaps could have led a faster start?
InvaderRamModeratorglad for givens. excited for quick.
quick and gurley healthy and almost ready for a full load.
October 2, 2015 at 10:07 pm in reply to: Rams are better off than you think: An extensive St. Louis cap analysis #31586InvaderRamModeratorit’d be nice if this all equaled more wins. hehehe…
InvaderRamModeratorif the rams can’t win this weekend, i would at least like to see the defense put up another strong performance. i want to see consistency.
InvaderRamModeratori just keep imagining gurley breaking off a couple of nice runs. not necessarily a 100 yard game. but i could see him getting 10 carries and maybe ripping off a couple 20 and 30 yard chunks here and there.
10 carries this wkd. maybe 15 next weekend against green bay. assuming he comes out of the arizona game healthy. then the bye week to rest.
and assuming everything goes as planned. 15-20 carries a game the rest of the way.
InvaderRamModeratorif this defense has any pride they are going into this arizona game pissed and take our all of their anger and frustration out on carson. get some fumbles and interceptions.
on offense hopefully the oline and rbs iron out the mistakes and start gashing that cardinal defense.
if they can do that i see the rams winning.
InvaderRamModeratori believe there is talent on this team.
not because i believe it. although i do believe it. but also because most experts believe it as well.
and on top of that we’ve seen this team take it to some high caliber opponents and beat them. something which they would not have been capable of before fisher and snead.
i do however have this sickening feeling that this team is missing something. maybe it’s coaching? chemistry? maybe it’s just maturity? i don’t know but something is holding this team back. but i don’t think it’s talent.
InvaderRamModeratori sometimes wonder if ogletree could take over at middle linebacker once laurinaitis is done. i think the only thing that would hold him back is the mental aspect. not that he couldn’t do it. i just don’t know whether he could do it.
InvaderRamModeratoron offense it seems like the oline and the running backs are struggling with the zone scheme. but they also seem to be upbeat and think they can iron out the problems through repetition. which they have lacked so far. it could explain why robinson has struggled in run blocking when it was supposed to be a strength of his. thinking too much?
i believe them. but they better figure it out quick.
this team also needs to find a way take their home performances and carry them over to the road. especially with both arizona and green bay being away games.
InvaderRamModeratorthey have to continue to play excellent run defense. against seattle and pittsburgh they were able to do this. it didn’t happen against washington. if they can’t stop the run, i don’t think it matters if they play on or off.
InvaderRamModeratoradrian peterson in his rookie season had a game where he rushed 14 times. for 3 yards.
0 receptions. for 0 yards.
just sayin.
InvaderRamModeratori got a feeling we see the running game starting to come around against arizona. i’m not gonna say it’s going to look like the best running attack in the league, but there will be somewhat of a breakthrough.
InvaderRamModeratorrams HAVE to get turnovers and give the offense a short field to work with. at least 2. and the offense can’t give the ball away. and the d line has to get a ton of pressure on palmer.
if they do that. they’ll have a chance.
InvaderRamModeratori think i still invest a lot in this team. shoot i invest more in this team than i do my fantasy football team. and more than any sports team i follow too.
a lot of it is cuz the team is designed the way i would want a team designed. defense and the running game.
and i enjoy at least tracking the progress of certain individual players.
but yeah i can understand why people get frustrated. hey this could go the way of the niners where some new coach comes in and turns all this talent to wins!
InvaderRamModeratorand here i was digging quick’s grave…
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