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InvaderRamModeratorWell, I dunno.
I guess I’m just not sold on Goff or Wentz.
But what do i know.Wentz looks kinda slow to me. Like a big Kerry Collins
kinda guy. And Goff…well Goff has teeny tiny hands
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vwentz ran the 40 in the 4.7’s. 3 cone was 6.87.
he’s pretty athletic for his size.
InvaderRamModeratorit’s a big gamble. it’s just too much to give up for me. but i also readily admit i have not seen these guys play. only base it on what i read.
i do have one friend who has seen a lot of goff and thinks he’ll be good but still thinks the rams got fleeced. i’m having trouble thinking of an example where this does benefit the team trading up. maybe eli manning?
edit. one case where it did work is the rams trading up to number one for orlando pace.
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April 15, 2016 at 6:09 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42006
InvaderRamModeratorone thing about wentz is he was a late bloomer. Only 5’9″ as a freshman in high school. didn’t develop until later which is why he didn’t get any d1 scholarships.
April 15, 2016 at 6:02 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42002
InvaderRamModeratorsince the trade is done and i would have to choose one i would want wentz.
i know it’s not logical, but i just can’t get over goff’s 9″ hands. if his hands were a little bigger i’d take goff. silly i know.
wentz has the prototypical size and arm strength. he’s mobile. i wouldn’t worry about him taking a couple hits. just seems to have more potential.
of course i say all this without having watched either of them play.
for what it’s worth i have a friend who’s watched goff play. thinks he’s gonna be real good but not first pick worthy.
InvaderRamModeratorschefter reporting they are leaning toward goff.
InvaderRamModeratorIt was a Kroenke marketing trade, not a football trade.
yup.
just when i thought the rams couldn’t get any dumber.
April 13, 2016 at 9:44 pm in reply to: informal poll–for or against trading up? trading down? staying put? #41843
InvaderRamModeratori don’t think the browns have any intention of drafting a qb. depodesta is an analytics guy. i just don’t see it happening. trade down and build up the defense is what they’re after.
InvaderRamModeratori agree. if jack were to fall to #15, they would pick him.
of course. that’ll never happen. but yeah. if jack were to fall to #15, the rams would almost have to pick him. the guy is an absolute stud. and might be a top 5 talent.
InvaderRamModeratori’m starting to come around on vannett. tight end might be a bigger need than receiver and i like his measurables. long arms big mitts. won’t jump out of the stadium but average athleticism.
versatile reading the reports.
InvaderRamModeratorarsenal fans in london are furious with stan. they are asking him to step down. doesn’t seem to be present or care what happens at that club.
InvaderRamModeratoryou figure he’s got maybe a couple years left in him.
just wonder how effective he’d be at free safety.
April 10, 2016 at 12:41 pm in reply to: NFL Draft Rumors: Rams opting for WR Josh Doctson instead of QB? #41725
InvaderRamModeratorthere should also be some tight ends in the later rounds which i also think is a need.
April 10, 2016 at 11:53 am in reply to: NFL Draft Rumors: Rams opting for WR Josh Doctson instead of QB? #41723
InvaderRamModeratorI go back and forth. But, it is easier to get a WR later than it is a QB.
very true. there should be receivers available in the second round.
April 10, 2016 at 9:16 am in reply to: NFL Draft Rumors: Rams opting for WR Josh Doctson instead of QB? #41704
InvaderRamModeratordoctson’s in game explosion is unreal. the guy just attacks the ball.
but apparently he’s raw in terms of route running and playing in a pro style offense.
if it came down to lynch or doctson… man that’d be a tough choice.
InvaderRamModeratordoesn’t make me feel any better about cook.
i think waldman had alluded to goff being a little chippy with the press. i wonder if it’s a personality clash. doesn’t seem to be football related at least.
i’m also guessing that lynch’s problems were football related and interviews showed how raw he was in terms of football knowledge.
InvaderRamModeratormore than a cb i want the rams to draft a safety. the huddle report has justin simmons rated the 11th best prospect. others don’t have him rated nearly that high. there’s also jalen mills.
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InvaderRamModeratorcan’t say i’m all that thrilled with the idea 0f alexander.
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InvaderRamModeratori’d be happy with lynch too. he reminds me of roethlisberger coming out. a big mobile qb with a big arm coming from a small school.
very raw but a crapload of potential.
InvaderRamModeratorblarg.
InvaderRamModeratorok. so this is from cosell.
When I look at the Utah game, it’s not a good piece of tape for Goff. He threw five interceptions, but it’s more than just the number of interceptions. It was more worrisome how his tendency to play fast and hurried showed in that game and led to the turnovers. He didn’t react well in this game.
Goff’s feet at times can be a little jumpy and frenetic. That’s not a good thing, and you wonder how that will play out against the better and faster pass rushers in the NFL.
now what makes me go huh is the waldman video is a piece from the utah game in which he praises him for his ability under pressure… even talks about how his “hurried feet” are actually goff making adjustments in order to get the throw off.
weird.
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InvaderRamModeratorWhat happens if the Browns pass on Wentz and Goff?
Todd McShay plays out the scenarios in the NFL draft if the Browns don’t pick a quarterback with the second pick. One of them is the Rams trading up with the Ravens to #6 to get ahead of SF and Philly. (3:02)
link: http://www.rams-news.com/todd-mcshay-happens-browns-pass-wentz-goff-video/
ya know i’m not entirely convinced the browns take a quarterback.
InvaderRamModeratorhe’ll be more pro ready than lynch although lynch might have the higher upside, and it should help that he’ll have gurley in the backfield to take pressure off him.
I’ve seen Goff compared to Ryan.
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i saw that. i could live with that. surprised that cosell rates him above mariota and winston.
i’m also surprised that cosell had questions about goff under pressure. i coulda sworn i heard waldman say he liked goff under pressure.
InvaderRamModeratorif you asked me last week i would a said don’t trade up.
but i’m starting to think that if goff is available at the 7th or 8th spot, rams should start making some calls.
despite his terrifyingly miniscule hands.
Well, you know, IR, it may just be destiny in the making.
I mean, the whole damn team just up and moved to go play near the La Brea Tar Pits. Wouldn’t it stand that the Rams should have a T Rex at QB???
all kidding aside. he seems to have a lot of skills. he’s smart. but he’s also got game intelligence. from the reports it seems he recognizes and sees things quickly. makes quick decisions. and he’s got exceptional arm strength. second only in ball velocity to lynch. he’s a little slight in build. but he’s only 21. i suspect he’ll easily be able to add another 10 pounds to his frame. he even seems to have a little edge to him. a little bit of a chip on his shoulder. he’ll be more pro ready than lynch although lynch might have the higher upside, and it should help that he’ll have gurley in the backfield to take pressure off him.
InvaderRamModeratorif you asked me last week i would a said don’t trade up.
but i’m starting to think that if goff is available at the 7th or 8th spot, rams should start making some calls.
despite his terrifyingly miniscule hands.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah but how big are his hands?
and his arms are only 32 5/8″ long.
InvaderRamModeratori have him rated number 3 among qbs. i’d take him at 15 if goff and wentz weren’t available.
either that or take doctson or best defensive player available.
April 6, 2016 at 5:44 pm in reply to: Patriots fans sue to get draft pick back, cite ‘emotional distress’ #41549
InvaderRamModeratorkudos to those pats fans. i hope they lose.
InvaderRamModeratora strong arm and some mobility. but serious questions about ability to make quick decisions and read defenses.
i do like him better than cook.
InvaderRamModeratorafter listening to that waldman interview i’m starting to wonder if goff might be a guy worth trading up for…
April 5, 2016 at 6:32 pm in reply to: informal poll–for or against trading up? trading down? staying put? #41491
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. no trade up. not worth it. i would, however, like them to be aggressive with that pick. don’t play it safe.
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