looks like they got at least 4 starters out of this class? possibly the foundation of a brand new offense?

shoot. if mannion pans out…

wv wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Dak wrote:

I’m wondering if somewhere along the way that SK felt disrespected in this process …

I really don’t know how L.A. fans like Joe could go through this type of thing and still follow the Rams so closely. If there’s anything that will keep me following, it could be this bunch of fans on this board right here. I can’t say that for sure, because honestly I get busy and I’m very stingy with my time.

And, really, as I get older, sports becomes less and less important to me. .. There are much worse things that can happen to you than to lose an NFL franchise (a second time).

I don’t think it’s a matter of disrespect with Stan. I don’t think anything is personal with him. It is all business. The man’s entire life has been business deals, making money. That’s what he does. He is one of those guys who is simply a Borg of Business. He is literally a Multi-national Corporation in human form. Corporations aren’t sentimental. St. Louis is simply a market. Los Angeles is a market. For Kroenkeco, Los Angeles is a better place to build Empire than St. Louis is. It is that simple.

And I agree with WV in the sense that his argument is entirely “legal” rather than emotional. There’s no name-calling or anything personal. It is “scorched earth” in the sense that he argues that St. Louis is entirely deficient as a marketplace. He doesn’t stop with just saying, “The dome isn’t 1st tier.” He wants to move. So he pulled out all the stops, and presented the most damning argument he could against St. Louis, and the most favorable argument he could towards his Inglewood project. If he pulled punches anywhere, it was on Carson.

And I fully agree with you on “time,” and on priorities. I have other things to do, too, things that matter. And sports…as much fun as they are…the longer I live, the more I am disappointed. My heart got broken on the scoreboard many times when I was a kid. And I saw my favorite players leave as free agents, and I saw rule changes I didn’t like, and traditions discarded, and the commodification of everything, and the price of paraphernalia and tickets skyrocket, and games get harder to watch on TV, and teams move away from loyal fans, and strikes, and lockouts, and replacement players, and it all just takes a toll. There are far, far more ways to be disappointed in sports than there are ways to find happiness. Only one team wins each year. Everyone else experiences some level of disappointment.

Bu you are certainly right when you say there are worse things that can happen to you.

I follow the Rams even when they are down, but if not for this band of brothers posting here, I wouldn’t spend as much time on them as I do.

You know, I think a lot of fans treat their fandom like a religion, and they cast disdain on “bandwagon” fans, and all that. I just am not wired that way. And I think all the disappointment in my teams, the owners, the management, the league, has just taught me that I should treat my loyalty the same way the owners treat their teams. I mean…Stan (and hosts of other owners before him) has shown he doesn’t care about the fans per se. Owners believe they don’t owe us anything. So I don’t see why we owe them anything. I don’t understand sports as religion. It’s a business arrangement. And if they provide a crappy product, I don’t have to give it my money. I’m NOT paying to watch the games, and I’m not paying $185 for a shirt that cost them $4 to make in China.

When the Rams left LA, I had to decide if I was dropping them as a fan or not. I, like other nomads, decided the zip code of their stadium wasn’t as important to me as the team and the history of it that I grew up with, and internalized. It was important, but not THAT important. To me. But “home” team was never a thing for me, since none of the teams I root for are local. Anyway, I just realized that the Rams are part of me. And I wasn’t going to let them take that from me. That was my decision. I just decided – as much as I didn’t want them to move – that geography was less important to me than other things.

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Ditto to all that, zooey.

I kinda wish fans would stop doin what they do.
I wish they’d stop paying ridiculous ticket prices.
Just stay the F### Home. And stop paying for all those
ridiculous tv-packages. And stop buying all the corporate
jerseys for a gazillion dollars. Etc.
Stop all the money-madness, and just…follow the team
without giving money to the corp-machine.

But of course thats like saying don’t buy plastic
shit at Walmart — aint gonna happen.

I could go on….

Anyway, i enjoy the hell out of this small
group of posting-apes on this small planet,
in this swirling blazing galaxy, in this mysterious
dark void of space.

w
v

yeah. i’ve felt that way for a long time.

i do pay for sunday ticket. i know. but i try to give them as little of my money as i possibly can. only my time and dedication…

and a subscription for sunday ticket.

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yeah. gz ain’t no johnny hekker.

rams need to find the johnny hekker of nfl kickers.

greg! hopefully this is some sort of launching spot.

as far as donald. i keep saying it but best rams defensive lineman in last 25 years already. it’ll be a joy to watch this guy grow over the years.

this is a very bad 9er team. how they go from beating seattle at seattle to losing to the niners is beyond me. and i realize that gurley didn’t play today, but the 9ers are bad.

Zooey wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

i used to be sure.

but i’m not so sure anymore.

based just on the stadium project i would think the inglewood stadium would be miles ahead. wondering if they’re trying to pressure stan into making a deal with spanos.

in the end i’d rather just not have to read articles on this ever again.

I’m the same.

I was sure last March. Not so sure now.

And I wonder the same thing about Stan/Spanos. That they want something more from Kroenke, a little bigger slice of pie for Spanos. That is a possibility.

And I’d like the issue resolved this month instead of delaying it another year.

yeah. don’t let this drag on for another year.

keep boras. draft a wr. but most importantly draft a qb. i think by far the rams biggest need at this point is quarterback.

looks like maybe connor cook will be there when rams pick. either that or get a second tier qb. i’m not gambling on keenum or mannion being the answer if i’m the rams.

looks like wichmann had a breakthrough this last game? haven’t watched it yet. hopefully that’s 3 linemen they can count on next year.

sure. why not?

at the very least that running game with gurley, austin, and kaepernick would be confusing to defend i’d imagine.

all negativity aside i am encouraged by the reports on the oline. didn’t see the whole game but hopefully this continues into next week. get some momentum going into the offseason.

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InvaderRam wrote:

not trying to be a wet blanket, but this game meant more to the rams than the seahawks. seahawks had no chance at the division and had already secured their playoff spot. seahawks were looking past this game.

would i rather be swept by a divisional rival and make the playoffs or would i rather sweep a division rival and hopefully not have a losing record?

hmmm… still don’t feel like these rams get it.

I don’t know about all that. They drop from 5th seed to 6th seed if the Vikings win again next week. And what kind of playoff team takes another team for granted? You’d think they’d want all the momentum going into the playoffs that they could get, and to keep their streak alive. There was also mention that the seahawks’ locker room was very somber. As if they just lost a playoff game. So that leads me to believe that they wanted this one bad.

they can talk about how much the game meant to them. how badly they wanted it. but at the end of the day the rams’ season ends next week. again. the seahawks are going on to bigger and better things. and whether they won or lost. it didn’t make one bit of difference in terms of making the playoffs or to who they face in the playoffs. yeah. momentum could help propel them to another superbowl berth, but that team has been there done that. this rams team can hang its hat on a lot of promise and talk but little else.

and i don’t put it all on the foles vs keenum. i don’t know that keenum would have been the difference of 3 or 4 games.

good stuff. the thing that most impresses me about him after the quickness is the hands. not just getting off blocks but when he gets his hand on the ball carrier, the dude is going down.

Dak wrote:

It’s like I’m watching his college highlight reels come to life in the NFL. I think that he’s the best defensive player on any defense that I’ve watched week to week. I’m trying to remember anyone really that close. Think about it: Even great DEs like Carter during his heyday, Little in his best games and Quinn in recent years haven’t been able to dominate game-in, game-out like this guy. DTs just don’t get to the QB this often.

I don’t know about the Donald vs. Watt stuff. Watt is a stud and deserves all the accolades. But, Donald is probably the best DT in football, or at least there’s nobody better.

Too bad Quinn got hurt. This line will be hell on wheels with both of them in there.

yeah. better than carter. better than little already. best rams dlineman in the last 20 years. another eight years of this and who knows?

in my 21 years of watching the rams i have never seen a defensive lineman consistently make so many outrageous plays as donald does. truly feel blessed to watch him play.

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