We need a QB

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December 26, 2015 at 11:21 am #36070

Winnbrad
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Yeah, I know. Captain Obvious has posted.

Ok, you read the title.

Another year, another season without a decent QB. How the fudge do we acquire one of these mythical creatures?

I’ve seen them on other teams. I’ve watched them on television. I know they exist! They’re not unicorns!!!

We have a D, we have some talent, we have a couple of playmakers and a decent running game. All of that means jack squat without a QB. We will always be a 500 team (or less) without one.

We don’t need a pro bowler. Hell, we don’t even need a “good” QB, just above average would suffice to get us 10 wins.

So how do we get one? Steal him? Mortgage the farm for one? Perhaps we should use our first 4 picks of the draft on’em and hope we get lucky???

Looking to next season, all I see is this season. It’s like “Ground Hog Day” in the form of a football team. Beat a few good teams, give away some games, keep losing on the road, show lots of potential, but not enough execution to get over the .500 hump.

We need a decent QB.

Help me…

December 26, 2015 at 3:53 pm #36075

— X —
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Well, we have the unknown in Mannion — that’s one.
We have the journeyman in Keenum — that’s two.
We should never ever ever use Foles again — that’s two.

So for the third we have to either (a) draft one high and hedge our Mannion bet, or (b) sign one to a ton of money and compromise the overall strength of the team. You can probably part ways with Chris Long and his contract, or James Laurinaitis and his, to make room for a free agent guy. Like Stafford if he were to actually become available.

You have to be odd, to be number one.
-- Dr Seuss

December 26, 2015 at 6:11 pm #36077

Agamemnon
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— X — wrote:

Well, we have the unknown in Mannion — that’s one.
We have the journeyman in Keenum — that’s two.
We should never ever ever use Foles again — that’s two.

So for the third we have to either (a) draft one high and hedge our Mannion bet, or (b) sign one to a ton of money and compromise the overall strength of the team. You can probably part ways with Chris Long and his contract, or James Laurinaitis and his, to make room for a free agent guy. Like Stafford if he were to actually become available.

So, if Foles was a FA, you would not sign him? Why didn’t you just say that. 😉

Agamemnon

December 26, 2015 at 6:23 pm #36078

wv
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Since this regime Hates quarterbacks so much,
I suggest we just let Gurley be the QB,
and let Tavon run around behind him,
and we just go with the Wild-Cat or
Wild-Unicorn or whatever its called nowadays.

I mean, why not? I bet Gurley can even throw
better than TeBow.

And that way we take advantage of the fact
that GRob is going to Whiff three or four
times a game. Gurley can just blow
by the defenders that Wiz past GRob.
Ya know. Turn a negative into a Positive.

I would also not oppose having an
actual Unicorn as QB,
as long as it was a running Unicorn
and not one of those stationary
pocket Unicorns.

w
v

December 26, 2015 at 7:17 pm #36080

Agamemnon
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My tab for ramshuddle was flashing new message. Is this a new thing? Did I never notice it before? Maybe it only happens when somebody uses the word unicorn?

Agamemnon

December 26, 2015 at 8:55 pm #36090

wv
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Agamemnon wrote:

<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>My tab for ramshuddle was flashing new message. Is this a new thing? Did I never notice it before? Maybe it only happens when somebody uses the word unicorn?</span>

If this is going to be a Uni-Corn thread
then I want to know why Unicorns dont
have an actual corn-cob on their heads.
I mean, they are not called Uni-horns,
they are called Uni-corns.

So, I’d like an answer to that.

I’ll just wait.

w
v

December 26, 2015 at 9:00 pm #36091

bnw
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— X — wrote:

Well, we have the unknown in Mannion — that’s one.
We have the journeyman in Keenum — that’s two.
We should never ever ever use Foles again — that’s two.

So for the third we have to either (a) draft one high and hedge our Mannion bet, or (b) sign one to a ton of money and compromise the overall strength of the team. You can probably part ways with Chris Long and his contract, or James Laurinaitis and his, to make room for a free agent guy. Like Stafford if he were to actually become available.

Please not Stafford. I hope Keenum or Mannion can be the QB.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

December 26, 2015 at 9:01 pm #36092

bnw
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wv wrote:

My tab for ramshuddle was flashing new message. Is this a new thing? Did I never notice it before? Maybe it only happens when somebody uses the word unicorn?

If this is going to be a Uni-Corn thread
then I want to know why Unicorns dont
have an actual corn-cob on their heads.
I mean, they are not called Uni-horns,
they are called Uni-corns.

So, I’d like an answer to that.

I’ll just wait.

w
v

Too high. Think low. One corn on each hoof.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

December 27, 2015 at 12:30 am #36098

Agamemnon
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wv wrote:

If this is going to be a Uni-Corn thread
then I want to know why Unicorns dont
have an actual corn-cob on their heads.
I mean, they are not called Uni-horns,
they are called Uni-corns.

So, I’d like an answer to that.

I’ll just wait.

w
v

Monoceros
/məˈnɒsərəs/
noun (Latin genitive) Monocerotis (məˌnɒsəˈrəʊtɪs)
1.
a faint constellation on the celestial equator crossed by the Milky Way and lying close to Orion and Canis Major
Word Origin
C14: via Old French from Latin: unicorn, from Greek monokeros with a single horn, from mono- + keras horn

Monoceros = Unicorn, maybe.

Agamemnon

December 27, 2015 at 7:24 am #36102
bnw
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Oh fine, leave the solar system for your answer. Damn kids and their Star Warns movie!
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The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.
December 27, 2015 at 8:40 am #36110

Winnbrad
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— X — wrote:

Well, we have the unknown in Mannion — that’s one.
We have the journeyman in Keenum — that’s two.
We should never ever ever use Foles again — that’s two.

So for the third we have to either (a) draft one high and hedge our Mannion bet, or (b) sign one to a ton of money and compromise the overall strength of the team. You can probably part ways with Chris Long and his contract, or James Laurinaitis and his, to make room for a free agent guy. Like Stafford if he were to actually become available.

You forgot Hekker. He could be our Danny White!

December 27, 2015 at 9:03 am #36111

wv
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Well they have that extra 2nd rounder from Philly,
so maybe they package it with their no.1 and
move up a little to get a QB. I dunno.

I would have liked to have seen more of Mannion
‘before’ the draft.

w
v

December 27, 2015 at 9:10 am #36112

Winnbrad
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wv wrote:

Well they have that extra 2nd rounder from Philly,
so maybe they package it with their no.1 and
move up a little to get a QB. I dunno.

I would have liked to have seen more of Mannion
‘before’ the draft.

w
v

At this point, the Rams should be willing to “mortgage the farm” to get a QB.

It doesn’t do any good to have a good team if they don’t have a decent QB.

I say do whatever it takes.

Draft every QB available. Have a cage death match. Whatever.

December 27, 2015 at 9:45 am #36113

wv
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Winnbrad wrote:

wv wrote:

Well they have that extra 2nd rounder from Philly,
so maybe they package it with their no.1 and
move up a little to get a QB. I dunno.

I would have liked to have seen more of Mannion
‘before’ the draft.

w
v

At this point, the Rams should be willing to “mortgage the farm” to get a QB.

It doesn’t do any good to have a good team if they don’t have a decent QB.

I say do whatever it takes.

Draft every QB available. Have a cage death match. Whatever.

Well, lots of knowns and unknowns.

Do they think Foles can be Rebuilt?
Can they afford to cut him?
Can afford to keep him if he takes up a roster spot another QB
could have?
Is Mannion an Option? When will they know?
Can Keenum ever be a no.1 QB ?
Are any of the QBs in the draft-class worth
moving up for?
which vet free agents could help?

w
v

December 27, 2015 at 9:59 am #36114

InvaderRam
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unfortunately this isn’t the best year to be drafting a qb.

December 27, 2015 at 10:14 am #36115
Agamemnon
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There is no Luck in this draft, or even Winston or Mariota, but there are guys that could become good starters. imo

Nobody in this draft is worth trading up for, at QB or anywhere else. imo

I am not a fan of trading up anyway.

But, there are a lot of good players, at most positions, in this draft, up until the end of the 4th round. imo

I will do what I always do, let the draft/dice decide how I play the game.
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Agamemnon
December 27, 2015 at 10:18 am #36116

nittany ram
Moderator

Who’s all-in for Kirk Cousins? The line starts behind me.

December 27, 2015 at 10:32 am #36119

bnw
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nittany ram wrote:

Who’s all-in for Kirk Cousins? The line starts behind me.

Only if Mr. Spock gives the OK.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

December 27, 2015 at 10:36 am #36120

bnw
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wv wrote:

Well, lots of knowns and unknowns.

Do they think Foles can be Rebuilt?
Can they afford to cut him?
Can afford to keep him if he takes up a roster spot another QB
could have?
Is Mannion an Option? When will they know?
Can Keenum ever be a no.1 QB ?
Are any of the QBs in the draft-class worth
moving up for?
which vet free agents could help?

w
v

No.
Yes.
No.
Yes. Soon.
Yes.
No.
None.

The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

Sprinkles are for winners.

December 27, 2015 at 10:45 am #36121

Winnbrad
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nittany ram wrote:

Who’s all-in for Kirk Cousins? The line starts behind me.

At this point, he’s worth a shot. Everyone is worth a shot.

I want to see at least 10 QBs in camp next summer. I just made up that number. But whatever.

December 27, 2015 at 10:47 am #36122

Winnbrad
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InvaderRam wrote:

unfortunately this isn’t the best year to be drafting a qb.

Apparently, every year is a bad year for the Rams to draft a QB.

So let’s not break the streak this year. Draft at least 4 of them. We’ve proven we can’t draft quality, so let’s go for quantity.

December 27, 2015 at 1:29 pm #36127

PA Ram
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I’m glad to see Keenum performing well but I do wish the Rams could have used the time to get a better evaluation of Mannion. I think it’s important to know what they have there. Still, I’m not sure what happens or where they go in the off-season. Can they just let Foles and his contract go? Are they stuck with him? A lot will depend on that–and HOW Case does the last two games.

If he melts down than all bets are off.

If he plays well he can be the starter next year with Mannion as back-up and another young guy perhaps behind him.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

December 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm #36128

wv
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PA Ram wrote:

I’m glad to see Keenum performing well but I do wish the Rams could have used the time to get a better evaluation of Mannion. I think it’s important to know what they have there. Still, I’m not sure what happens or where they go in the off-season. Can they just let Foles and his contract go? Are they stuck with him? A lot will depend on that–and HOW Case does the last two games.

If he melts down than all bets are off.

If he plays well he can be the starter next year with Mannion as back-up and another young guy perhaps behind him.

Well, that would be a sad state of affairs if they
open up the season with Case Keenum at QB,
in my view.

And yet, it might be the best
available option, to Snisher.

Ah well.

w
v

December 27, 2015 at 2:38 pm #36129

Agamemnon
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Mannion starts @~5:40.

fyi, Fisher liked Foles and Cignetti liked Keenum and Snead liked Mannion. Everybody liked everybody. 😉

Agamemnon

December 28, 2015 at 9:55 am #36196

JackPMiller
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The problem we have, is it is not a strong QB class. Paxson Lynch and Jared Goff will be gone before we pick. The rest of the QBs, like Connor Cook, have flaws. With Cook, I saw issues with decision making. He’ll be OK, but in a backup role. I like the late round, 6th to 7th round guys better than the guys after Lynch and Goff. Kevin Hogan of Stanford, Trevone Boykin of TCU, Jeff Driskel of Louisiana Tech, and Marquise Williams of UNC come to mind, over Conner Cook, Cardale Jones, Dak Prescott, and Christian Hackenberg.

December 28, 2015 at 6:27 pm #36225

Herzog
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Redskins are now in love with Cousins. He might not be available.

Why no love for Keenum? Isn’t he doing exactly what we want? He gets the ball out fast and he knows the system, and he’s winning.

I sincerely hope they DO like Mannion since they spent a 3rd round draft pick on him. He should be our future quarterback. If he isn’t, than I don’t have any faith in this Snead to draft a better one in the upcoming draft.
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