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InvaderRamModerator
corey coleman, eh?
i’m gonna watch out for that guy.
February 16, 2016 at 6:19 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #39100InvaderRamModeratorwe’ll see, but while griffin may be an arrogant sob, there’s nothing to me that indicates he can’t mature as a person and become a better teammate and leader. and with repetitions i don’t see why he can’t improve his qb skills as well if he applies himself.
Tell you what. If they sign Griffin, and he proves to be a distraction or the guy being complained about in the stuff I posted, then, you owe the board a million dollars. Fair enough?
how about a million hugs? i can do that.
February 16, 2016 at 6:13 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #39098InvaderRamModeratori read it. definitely doesn’t sound good.
but again. there isn’t much risk. you don’t need to give him a huge contract. if it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out.
and cooley doesn’t have any more insight than any other talking head. he wasn’t there during the gruden years. and in fact he only played with griffin his rookie year. i’ve heard plenty other talking heads say that griffin can play in this league.
as far as gruden yeah its damning. but again. in that buffalo bills documentary the things that were talked about jim kelly’s first four years sound exactly like what happened at washington.
i heard the same things about faulk. people denounced the trade and said the rams were getting a selfish player. the rams couldn’t win with him. if people find him to be a prick well i can’t argue with them. the same is true of marshall. the same exact things were said of kelly. his teammates couldn’t stand him. thurman thomas said the same exact things about kelly that griffin’s teammates are saying of him.
but this guy seems to be competitive. he’s smart. but he also needs to mature. i have a hard time believing that a qb can’t master the basics and put up the numbers he put up in 2014. not his rookie year. but his first with gruden. they’re not far off what cousins did who came from a pro system.
no i’m not trying to say he was as good as cousins, but it’s not as far off as people would like to believe. i don’t care what gruden says or what his motivations are for saying that. and again. the same things said about griffin are what kelly’s teammates were saying about him.
we’ll see, but while griffin may be an arrogant sob, there’s nothing to me that indicates he can’t mature as a person and become a better teammate and leader. and with repetitions i don’t see why he can’t improve his qb skills as well if he applies himself.
February 16, 2016 at 1:20 am in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #39070InvaderRamModeratorinterestingly. i’m watching this documentary about a quarterback whose team was losing. the team was constantly fighting, and it got so bad that the quarterback was blaming everyone else but himself. it got so bad that the running back, who was six years junior to the quarterback, felt compelled to call him out on national television. it even got so bad that the head coach and general manager made the two players go in front of national television and issue a public apology. the quarterback even got into a screaming match with one of the coaches i believe it was.
that quarterback was jim kelly. and even though he entered the nfl three years after he came out of college because he refused to play at buffalo, there was a maturation process he had to go through.
there doesn’t seem to be much risk in signing rg3. he might not even want to play for the rams, but i think it’s definitely worth it to the rams to see if he might be able to resurrect his career here.
February 15, 2016 at 11:09 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #39068InvaderRamModeratorgranted. i have not seen rg3 play since his rookie year. but to say he has been flat out bad in recent years. i have a hard time believing it. and i have read the articles by chris cooley ripping his game apart.
i can only go off stats, but in his third season as a pro qb in a different system than his two previous, he had a career high in completion percentage (68.7%) and a yards per average of 7.9. that doesn’t say to me that he was flat out bad.
now he might be struggling. but i would expect that given the fact that he switched systems from year 2 to year 3. and part of it might also be that he needs to be in a system that better fits his skills as a quarterback.
i also concede that he needs to adjust his attitude and become a better leader. again. i think he needs to mature. might he be another jeff george? it’s possible. but that’s why the rams would need to do the background search. do their homework. but there’s just too much potential there to just flat out reject.
a guy like fisher might be the right kind of head coach for him. and the rams could put griffin in a system that better utilizes his skills.
or not. i’d be curious to find out though.
InvaderRamModeratori think the rams need barron, and barron needs the rams.
hopefully the two sides can work it out.
my only question is what happens with ogletree if barron comes back. do you put them both on the field?
February 15, 2016 at 11:33 am in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #39007InvaderRamModeratorNo RG3.
He;s a health issue AND a head case.
haha. i don’t see a head case with rg3. i see a guy who needs some maturing to do.
i’d apply head case to guys like manziel.
as far as bradford. i do like him. i’ve always liked him. it’s just that he’s never finished a season for more than a year in a row. that’s big.
i mean missing games here and there i understand. and not expecting 16 games year in and year out. but he hasn’t finished 2 consecutive seasons since 2008.
that’s really my only concern with him. and no i’m not expecting him to be brett favre. but even if he could be as durable as ben roethlisberger i’d take that.
InvaderRamModeratorhe had career highs in completion percentage, yards, and yards per attempt.
i still don’t think i’d want him though. he’s 28 now, and while that’s not old i think i’ve seen enough to wonder whether he’ll ever be healthy for longer than one season. he’s the sam bowie of nfl qbs.
i think i’d rather have rg3.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah that qb thing…
you got to think if they can solve that problem. and key players on defense can stay healthy.
sigh
InvaderRamModeratorplaced on injured reserve for ribs. shouldn’t be a problem going forward. sounds like he’d be a good pick up. california kid too so maybe he’d want to be back closer to home. from san diego.
edit: he went to high school in santa ana, so la would be right up his alley.
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InvaderRamModeratorPretty good speed for a guy of his size, and has the ability to hurt you in multiple different areas. He can return punts, he can carry the ball out of the backfield, and obviously he is dangerous in the passing game.
interesting.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah i agree with all that. well put. one thing is i worry a lot about gaines’ ability to stay healthy. my understanding is he had injury problems in college too.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. he sexually assaulted a woman in college, and it was swept under the rug. this has been known for a long time, but people have forgotten. he’s a scumbag who even got the woman fired at her job after slandering her in his book.
InvaderRamModeratormanning to the rams is a horrible idea. i’d rather have keenum.
InvaderRamModeratorTo bring J. Odgen and Walter Jones into the equation, consider the number of 4 or 5 wideout sets used on passing attempts by the Ravens (Ogden), Seahawks (Jones) and Rams (Pace) over those seven seasons:
Ravens … 355 times.
Seahawks … 660 times.
Rams … 1,236 times.yeah. orlando faced more pressure than his two contemporaries. that can’t be overstated and why i thought he should have gone in first ballot. absolute stud.
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InvaderRamModeratori’m really interested in rueben randle. he was really good in 2014 and he’s a big target. don’t know about his run blocking though.
InvaderRamModeratori never got to see then in the blue and white. i’d like to at least see that – maybe make it the throwback uni.
i just read that they were red and black when they were in cleveland.
InvaderRamModeratornice fade. wish we coulda seen more fron him his rookie season.
I suspect that given the time they have under the new CBA, which limits practices, getting both Foles and Mannion up to speed was a tall order.
yeah. it was always gonna be tough for mannion to get playing time this past season. hope this move doesn’t hinder any development time for the players.
InvaderRamModeratori think a guy like prescott would be more valuable to this team than a guy like goff.
use the first round pick on some other position – whether that be wide receiver or tight end.
InvaderRamModeratornice fade. wish we coulda seen more fron him his rookie season.
InvaderRamModeratorall mid round picks too with joyner being the highest.
i don’t think they should ever spend too much money on defensive backs. maybe just grab one or so in the draft every year and keep developing them.
February 10, 2016 at 6:22 pm in reply to: "Steddy Ambition": Stedman Bailey's Journey Back to the NFL #38825InvaderRamModeratorhe definitely messed up failing the second drug test. but as far as i know he did nothing wrong when he got shot in the head. he was at his local high school talking to students when it happened. now i don’t know if something happened before to precipitate that or if stedman was involved with that i don’t know. i hope not.
February 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #38793InvaderRamModeratori’d rather they draft a tight end. hunter henry sounds like he’s gonna be a good one.
i think he’d be more valuable than a wr in this offense.
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February 9, 2016 at 6:35 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #38784InvaderRamModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
Drew Bennett. Laurent Robinson. Kenny Britt.
You really want to address WR through FA?
i don’t count drew or laurent because they weren’t signed under the fisher regime.
but yeah. kenny not the best signing. but drafting wrs has arguably been worse.
i also feel more comfortable bringing in a veteran wr rather than trying to develop one when the passing game is already in rough shape.
although fisher in general has a pretty poor track record with wrs drafted or free agents.
InvaderRamModeratordoesn’t seem like his dad or his other brother have much of a reaction either.
February 9, 2016 at 3:27 pm in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #38777InvaderRamModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
February 8, 2016 at 10:39 pm in reply to: "Steddy Ambition": Stedman Bailey's Journey Back to the NFL #38766InvaderRamModeratori hope he’s able to make it back.
InvaderRamModeratori wonder if people will ever remember this peyton manning.
Reasons you don’t have to love Peyton Manning
By David Rutter
News-SunWe beatify quarterbacks for sainthood. They are everything we think superior human beings should be.
They overcome obstacles, improvise, innovate, manage the variables, fight the ravages of advancing age and then win. They suffer pain for the greater good.
But, of course, they aren’t grand at all. If they are grand humans, it’s coincidental to playing football.
While you await Super Bowl 50 this weekend, let’s separate real heroes from manufactured heroes.
If you need a reason to dislike a superstar, pick Peyton Manning who is not really the happy-go-lucky Mister Goofy Guy he plays in his never-ending commercials.
That is his stage persona.
Manning actually did something in his non-showbiz life for which a person should be profoundly ashamed. He has never accepted responsibility except by being forced to pay money by courts for a prank.
It all goes back to 1996 when Manning was a superstar at the University of Tennessee.
To appreciate that moment you must decide for yourself what you think “mooning” is.
In my youth, there was always one doofus passenger in the car of teen boys who would expose his bottom through an open rear window, usually to shock teen girls walking on a nearby sidewalk.
It was a visual crudity.
In 1996, Manning’s painful heel was being examined in the Volunteers’ locker room by a female trainer who was kneeling behind him. In his account, he wished to “moon” a male track athlete in the room and lowered his pants.
Manning later wrote he “didn’t think the (female) trainer would see” but when she did, “it seemed like something she’d have laughed at, considering” the locker room environment. But physics suggest she could not have seen anything else except his nude posterior.
What the track athlete and the female trainer said happened then was something else entirely. Distinctions make a difference.
They testified that he lowered his nude bottom, straddled her head and smothered her face. If you have an image of a grotesque, humiliating assault, that describes what he did. She eventually forced him off and ran from the room. She filed a report with the campus sexual assault program and fled school.
Later she sued the university for 33 counts of sexual discrimination, including the Manning event. She settled for $300,000. Manning faced no public ridicule, because social media was barely born then. Few outside of Tennessee knew what he’d done.
Plus, the university and his family of football stars insistently applied the “boys-will-be-boys” mooning definition.
Was it just a stupid thing any college kid might do? Or part of a pattern? Besides, it was 1996 which makes it ancient history.
Fast forward to 2000. The Manning family men commissioned a ghostwritten autobiography in which Manning recounts the event again and characterizes the trainer as having a “vulgar mouth.” The passage is leaked to her new collegiate employer who demotes and eventually fires her.
Jamie Ann Naughright, now a doctor of sports medicine, sues Manning for defamation. And wins. The financial settlement is secret and stipulates neither party will speak of the event again.
Fast forward again. In an ESPN profile of Manning, he again alludes to the event, thus apparently breaking the terms of the previous suit. She sues again.
At every point, keepers of the Manning Brand — university, family, lawyers, shills and Manning himself — have minimized what he did.
Yes, fans, I don’t like Peyton Manning. Perhaps I merely am more indifferent to him than other players. It’s time and energy wasted.
I don’t like the totally contrived Manning Brand, which is a valuable product. He, like his brand, is a commodity.
As for Manning’s role as football giant, who really cares? It’s a game. If you paid the best hopscotch player in the solar system a few million to leap from block to block, it still would not make the activity important.
The man who trained 20 years to tighten the heart valve suture perfectly on your mother’s bypass is important. The kindergarten teacher who gathers 20 children around her every day, and introduces them to the love of stories and words is important.
The hometown postal worker who digs through a large dirty bin for 20 minutes just to find the lost letter from your child. That’s important.
Maybe I’ll watch the Super Bowl. Maybe I won’t. It’s only a consumer product you are being lobbied to buy.
In truth, I’m just not every interested.
There will be important people doing important jobs Sunday. Peyton Manning isn’t one of them.
Copyright © 2016, Lake County News-Sun
InvaderRamModeratorjust scratching the surface. yeah. and i don’t think he was fully himself physically in 2015. should be at full strength in 2016. and hopefully the oline gets better.
I have hunches about that.
I think both the OL and Gurley get better, so I agree with you.
Interestingly, the Rams young OL in 2015 was weaker at run blocking than pass blocking.
The conventional wisdom is that younger linemen are going to be better run blockers than pass blockers.
But the way the Rams have been under Boudreau/Fisher, they have actually kept in injured veteran linemen for (I firmly believe) their run blocking. That means, I think, that the Rams run schemes are classic OL group efforts and don’t reduce to one on one blocking.
So for example, the combo of Long and Chris Wms. actually got a lot out of Stacy in 2013, yet Stacy has not done anything since.
And in 2015 they got a lot out of Mason in spite of having to start an injured Saffold and an injured Wells.
This is just me thinking out loud.
Gurley, of course, adds his own element to the run game. You didn’t need stellar blocking to get things out of him.
But then imagine, as you say, an improved Gurley plus an improved OL.
you might be right about the group ol efforts.
more than anything, there were a lot of moving parts to the ol. that and youth. ideally for me. brown and wichmann win the starting guard jobs. and then of course you got robinson, havenstein, and barnes. and then they can just continue to gel for the offseason and regular season.
and back to gurley. he’s gonna be able to work on his overall strength and conditioning. his balance. i think those things were diminished as he was probably so focused on getting his knee healthy. i also like how he said he needs to improve in the pass protections cuz i want to see him more on third downs and just the passing game in general. that aspect of his game was not utilized enough last year.
InvaderRamModeratorhow would other offensive tackles have held up with the constant pass blocking that offense required?
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