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  • #38730
    zn
    Moderator

    Broncos up 10-0 in the first quarter after a Denver sack, strip, fumble, and endzone recovery for a TD.

    So far it’s the Denver defense that’s driving this game.

    #38732
    zn
    Moderator

    So far it’s the Denver defense that’s driving this game.

    Carolina back in it. They seem to have adjusted to the defense. Next move: Denver has to adjust back.

    #38733
    zn
    Moderator

    Apparently there was something called “a halftime show.”

    I can’t verify that because I was outside getting wood for the woodstove.

    #38734
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    That looks nice.

    Agamemnon

    #38735
    lyser
    Participant

    Great for manning to go out. Like elway. Good for him.

    #38736
    zn
    Moderator

    Great for manning to go out. Like elway. Good for him.

    Yes.

    Also…this: last 4 superbowls, both teams win or lose, their defensive and offensive rankings —>

    Broncos O: 16th D: 1st
    Panthers O: 11th D: 6th

    Patz O: 11th D: 13th
    Seattle O: 9th D: 1st

    Seattle O: 17th D: 1st
    Broncos O: 1st D: 19th

    Ravens O: 16th D: 17th
    49ers O: 11th D: 3rd

    avg O: 11.5 D: 7.5

    #38737
    Zooey
    Participant

    The Broncos set a record with 12 straight failures to convert on 3rd down.

    Yet some idiot Ram fans would have you believe that Fisher doesn’t know how to build a championship offense.

    #38739
    Agamemnon
    Moderator


    We have already our SB offense. 😉

    Agamemnon

    #38740
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    i’m not a fan of manning, but i’m glad that a tough defense won the superbowl.

    somewhere fisher is smiling.

    #38744
    zn
    Moderator

    DENVER BRONCOS / NFL

    Von Miller, defense carry Broncos to Super Bowl 50 victory
    Miller: “This is magical. It’s something you dream about”

    By Troy E. Renck
    The Denver Post

    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29489135/von-miller-defense-carry-broncos-super-bowl-50

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Von Miller leaned through the mass of reporters and photographers, angling his body to his cubicle in the back of the locker room. It was his most difficult path of resistance here Sunday night.

    Miller and the Orange Rush attacked the Carolina Panthers with breathtaking ferocity, tired of hearing about their quarterback, Cam Newton, tired of seeing their dancing moves, exhausted by a perceived lack of respect.

    When Miller reached the corner, a call came out, “Von, turn the music on. It’s time to celebrate!”

    The Broncos smothered the Panthers, 24-10, in Super Bowl 50, gold confetti cascading onto the Levi’s Stadium at the end of one of the most dominant defensive performances in the game’s history. For all the importance of Peyton Manning’s likely final game — he will take time to make up his mind — Miller and the Orange Rush broke the Panthers’ will and their hearts.

    “This is magical,” Miller said. “It’s something you dream about.”

    It’s time to party like it’s 1999, Broncos fans. Denver owns its third championship, and it’s most unlikely since John Elway guided the Broncos to a 31-24 upset of Green Bay. That snapshot exists forever as owner Pat Bowlen stood on the podium and gave credit to Elway. Eighteen years later, Elway returned the favor.

    “This one’s for Pat,” the general manager said of the team’s longtime owner who is at home resting and fighting the effects of Alzheimer’s.

    Irony dripped throughout the victory. On a team constructed by a quarterback, coached by a quarterback and known for a quarterback, the Broncos defense delivered a breathtaking performance.

    Miller was a lightning bolt, racing around Carolina’s tackles. He finished with 2.5 sacks and most valuable player honors, catapulting him into an offseason where he’s in line to become the league’s highest-paid defensive player.

    Miller’s rage symbolizes a Denver team that had grown weary of praise for league MVP Cam Newton. The Broncos held the Panthers to a season-low 10 points. Newton spent the evening fleeing, taunted by the Broncos.

    “We let them talk all week. We talk with our helmets and shoulder pads. We are not about that flashy life. We about putting that grind in, putting in that work,” said safety T.J. Ward, whose fourth-quarter fumble recovery set up the Broncos’ lone offensive touchdown. “They wanted to be famous. They want be rappers and backup dancers.. We want to play football. We wanted to be champions.”

    The Broncos’ unit ranks among the all-time greats after delivering seven sacks, producing four turnovers and a touchdown. Newton completed 18 of 41 passes and left after brief comments on the podium.

    “Cam, Cam, Cam. It got old listening to all the talk about him all week,” defensive Malik Jackson said. “We dominated them. We should be talked about now among the all-time greats.”

    Miller punctuated the argument with an endless assault on Carolina’s overmatched tackles. It was as if the AFC championship game never ended. Newton, named the league’s MVP Saturday night, spent Sunday fleeing for his security and shaking his head in disgust.

    “They just played better than us,” Newton said. “I don’t know what else to say.”

    One play said everything about the bare-knuckle Broncos march to their third title.

    With the Broncos’ offense nothing more than a water break for the defense, Denver stared down Newton with 4:16 remaining in the fourth quarter. A 16-10 cushion felt, if only briefly, vulnerable.

    The Panthers faced a third-and-9, Newton dropped back to pass. Carolina had to make a difficult choice.Double Miller or peel off to chip a blitzing Ward. They miscalculated. Before Newton could sling his arm forward, Miller swatted the football out of his hand. Ward pounced on it, setting up the Broncos’ only offensive touchdown, a 2-yard run by C.J. Anderson.

    “This means the world to me, to be able to coach this group,” said defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, tears in his eyes. “What an effort by these guys. I love coaching them.”

    The past two performances by the Broncos in the playoffs, stifling Newton and battering New England’s Tom Brady, leaves their defense favorably mentioned with the 2000 Baltimore Ravens and 1985 Chicago Bears among the all-time best.

    When repeatedly asked last week how the Broncos would stop Newton, the league MVP, Broncos strong safety Ward blurted, “Shouldn’t the question be the other way around?”

    Manning walked away a winner, and into history’s embrace. At 39 he became the oldest quarterback to claim a Super Bowl title and the first to start and win for two different franchises.

    “It’s very special,” Manning explained, saying he would take time before deciding if he will retire. “It’s important to take this all in. I am just glad we didn’t have to play against our defense.”

    While the Panthers’ near spotless record and mauling defense convinced many the Broncos would be easy prey, Denver entered with confidence gleaned from the game plan and Saturday night speeches from Ware and Manning that defensive end Antonio Smith called “inspiring, emotional and spiritual.” Manning stepped into the huddle with his chest puffed out. He enjoyed his best week of practice and built on it early.

    He opened with an 18-yard completion to Owen Daniels. He connected with Andre Caldwell for 22 yards. Manning went four-for-six for 47 yards, leading to Brandon McManus’ 34-yard field goal. It marked only the fourth time a team has scored on Carolina on the opening possession, but represented an aberration. The Broncos managed only one additional first half first down, finishing with 117 yards, 56 coming on two plays. The Broncos finished with only 194 yards, again turning the game over to its defense in the second half.

    “We did just enough,” Anderson said. “I love it. I love it.”

    What happened early made the Broncos’ role reversal from two years ago feel complete. Remember when one team had a defense playing on high speed and the other was on dial-up? The Broncos became the Seahawks. On third-and-10 from Carolina’s 15-yard line in the first quarter, Miller burst into the backfield and Newton’s face. Miller grabbed the football as he shoved Newton down. It sprang loose and Jackson scooped it up for the first Super Bowl fumble recovery touchdown in 22 years. He fired the football into the stands to orange-splashed fans in section 124. The noise of Broncos fans created issues for the Panthers throughout.

    “I was going to do a dead fish soccer celebration like in a video game,” Jackson said. “But maybe a kid got a souvenir instead.”

    Carolina, as expected, surged back behind Newton. He established the ground game with Jonathan Stewart hurting and punished the Broncos’ man coverage. Stewart plunged in from 1-yard out to shave the Broncos’ lead to 10-7 with 11:25 remaining in the second.

    The Panthers’ defense began to play more aggressively at the line, leaving special teams as Denver’s primary weapon. Jordan Norwood fooled Carolina, walking into fair catch position. He raised no hand and took off, galloping 61 yards for the longest punt return in Super Bowl history. But a reserve lineman ran him down, and Denver fizzled on fourth-and-1 as officials flagged right guard Louis Vasquez for holding. Out trotted McManus for a 23-yard kick to inflate Denver’s cushion to 13-7.

    The Broncos never will complain about leading in a Super Bowl given their previous five losses in the big game, but missed a chance for more points. With the Broncos in field-goal range midway through the second quarter, Manning misread a zone drop by defensive end Kony Ealy. Manning threw his first interception in 11 quarters and snapped his streak of 164 postseason passes without an interception.

    A failure to convert on second-and-third and short undermined the the Broncos in the first half. Denver let its hair down after halftime, with Manning looking downfield. With Carolina conerback Josh Norman shadowing Demaryius Thomas, Manning turned to Emmanuel Sanders. He shoved the Broncos into the red zone for a third time. And yet it produced a third field goal, McManus’ 30-yarder widening the lead to 16-7.

    In the days leading up to the game, Denver displayed bravado, not panic.

    The Broncos humbled Newton, who struggled on zone reads, and couldn’t trust his tackles. Ward thwarted a third-quarter drive with an interception. The Broncos caught a break — luck figures into every special season — when Carolina kicker Graham Gano ricocheted a 43-yard field-goal attempt off the right upright. Denver entered the fourth quarter with five sacks and three takeaways, allowing it to lead despite an offense with 140 yards and one third-down conversion.

    The onus was on the defense. Exactly what the Broncos wanted.

    “You can forget the dab (dance). There ain’t no dabbing going on,” Ward bellowed as players passed around the Vince Lombardi Trophy. “They can go dab their eyes.”

    #38746
    wv
    Participant

    Great for manning to go out. Like elway. Good for him.

    Yes.

    Also…this: last 4 superbowls, both teams win or lose, their defensive and offensive rankings —>

    Broncos O: 16th D: 1st
    Panthers O: 11th D: 6th

    Patz O: 11th D: 13th
    Seattle O: 9th D: 1st

    Seattle O: 17th D: 1st
    Broncos O: 1st D: 19th

    Ravens O: 16th D: 17th
    49ers O: 11th D: 3rd

    avg O: 11.5 D: 7.5

    Ravens were the oddballs in that cluster
    of teams. Every other team had at least
    a top 6 offense or defense. The Ravens
    were not in the top 15 on O or D. Strange.

    Maybe they had a late surge or something.

    w
    v

    #38747
    joemad
    Participant

    With the Broncos’ offense nothing more than a water break for the defense, Denver stared down Newton with 4:16 remaining in the fourth quarter. A 16-10 cushion felt, if only briefly, vulnerable.

    The Panthers faced a third-and-9, Newton dropped back to pass. Carolina had to make a difficult choice.Double Miller or peel off to chip a blitzing Ward. They miscalculated. Before Newton could sling his arm forward, Miller swatted the football out of his hand. Ward pounced on it, setting up the Broncos’ only offensive touchdown, a 2-yard run by C.J. Anderson.

    before this happened, I’m hoping that the Panthers will drive downfield and score a TD setting up Peyton’s chance to drive for game winning field goal…….But Cam didn’t even try to recover his fumble…

    Newton didn’t even react to that fumble, he must have been emotionally and physically beaten, he was done for that game…….. It’s easy for me to say that from my recliner, but Superman treated that fumble like it was kryptonite and wanted no part of that scrum…..

    Denver played the 2nd half not to lose…didn’t even try to move the chains, it was clear that once they got the lead that Carolina wasn’t going to do jack against Wade Phillip’s defense…..

    #38759
    zn
    Moderator

    10 Takeaways from the Broncos’ Super Bowl 50 Win

    Randy Karraker

    10 Takeaways from the Broncos’ Super Bowl 50 Win

    It wasn’t a Super Bowl for the ages, but it was an upset and perhaps dramatic because it was likely Peyton Manning’s last game of a Hall of Fame career, a 24-10 win over Carolina that gave Manning his second championship. Ten takeaways from the Bronco victory…
    1) Lady Gaga turned in a magnificent rendition of the National Anthem. She’s theatrical and her 2:30 made people that bet the over happy. But she’s an amazingly talented singer and did herself proud with her performance.
    2) Peyton Manning looked and played like an old man. He was 4-6 for 37 yards on Denver’s first drive, and just 9-17 for 104 yards after that. He was able to ride a great defense to the victory, but just didn’t play well. This is the ideal way for Manning to go out. Be remembered for going on with a Super Bowl win, not in another foreign uniform with a losing record.
    3) The Denver defense may be one of the best ever. ESPN’s John Clayton asserted that the “Orange Rush” might be among the best five or six defenses in NFL history, and I questioned that. But when you look at their talent, their overall success and their historical place, it’s reasonable. The Broncos were first in overall defense and first against the pass, and third against the run. If they would have allowed 2.2 fewer yards per game against the run, they would have been the third team since 1970 to finish first overall and first against the run and pass. Then in the playoffs, they shut down a diminished Steelers team and stifled the Patriots before allowing the powerful Carolina offense just ten points. One of the five or six best ever is fair.
    4) You need to protect the passer…even if your quarterback is Superman. Cam Newton was sacked six times by the ferocious Denver defense. He was sacked five times in ALL of September and six times in October, and wasn’t sacked more than five times in a game all season until this one. The Bronco defense didn’t give him a chance, and that was the story of the game.
    5) Kony Ealy did Mizzou proudly. The Tiger had three sacks, an interception that looked like it was going to be a James Harrison type return, and also a strip/sack/recovery. He was the best front seven player for the Panthers in the Super Bowl.
    6) Denver couldn’t take advantage of turnovers and a long punt return. Of course, the Broncos got the late touchdown after a strip/sack of Newton. But the Broncos couldn’t take advantage of starting position at Carolina’s 14 (field goal), their own 40 (Ealy’s interception), and their own 34 after a missed field goal (field goal). They finally got a seven (actually an eight) rather than a three late in the game to put it away, but they left themselves in a precarious position when they didn’t take better advantage of opportunities.
    7) Ballpark Village exploded during and after Terry Crouppen’s #SlamStan commercial. Of course, the spot went viral nationally last week, but we wanted to see it during the broadcast here in St. Louis. It’s always good to see and hear someone defend our community, and Mr. Crouppen did a great job of it. I was at Ballpark Village for their party, and he got a rousing ovation. Otherwise, my favorite spot was the Shock Top commercial with the guy (comedian T.J. Miller) talking to the Shock Top mascot on the draft beer lever. Very funny.
    8) Discipline was perhaps a product of inexperience for Carolina. After committing only three penalties in the first half, they were flagged nine times for 82 yards in the second. It seemed like the lost some poise after halftime, and those penalties played a role in their inability to come back in the second half. Only six Panthers had played in the Super Bowl. The stage may have been too big this time.
    9) Did we need Coldplay at halfime? They were fine, but Bruno Mars and Beyonce stole the show. In five years, we’ll remember the “secondary” talents, rather than the “main attraction.”
    10) Ten franchises have accounted for 63 of the 100 Super Bowl appearances, and 39 of the 50 Super Bowl wins (78%). Those ten teams are the Steelers (8 games, 6 wins), Dallas (8/5), New England (8/4), Denver (8/3), San Francisco (6/5), New York Giants (5/4), Green Bay (5/4), Washington (5/3), Raiders (5/3) and Miami (5/2). Buffalo and Minnesota are both 0-4 in Super Bowls too, so 71 of 100 appearances have come from 12 teams, 29 appearances and eleven wins are from the other 30 franchises.

    #38761
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    i wonder if people will ever remember this peyton manning.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/lake-county-news-sun/opinion/ct-lns-rutter-peyton-manning-st-0205-20160205-story.html

    Reasons you don’t have to love Peyton Manning

    By David Rutter
    News-Sun

    We beatify quarterbacks for sainthood. They are everything we think superior human beings should be.

    They overcome obstacles, improvise, innovate, manage the variables, fight the ravages of advancing age and then win. They suffer pain for the greater good.

    But, of course, they aren’t grand at all. If they are grand humans, it’s coincidental to playing football.

    While you await Super Bowl 50 this weekend, let’s separate real heroes from manufactured heroes.

    If you need a reason to dislike a superstar, pick Peyton Manning who is not really the happy-go-lucky Mister Goofy Guy he plays in his never-ending commercials.

    That is his stage persona.

    Manning actually did something in his non-showbiz life for which a person should be profoundly ashamed. He has never accepted responsibility except by being forced to pay money by courts for a prank.

    It all goes back to 1996 when Manning was a superstar at the University of Tennessee.

    To appreciate that moment you must decide for yourself what you think “mooning” is.

    In my youth, there was always one doofus passenger in the car of teen boys who would expose his bottom through an open rear window, usually to shock teen girls walking on a nearby sidewalk.

    It was a visual crudity.

    In 1996, Manning’s painful heel was being examined in the Volunteers’ locker room by a female trainer who was kneeling behind him. In his account, he wished to “moon” a male track athlete in the room and lowered his pants.

    Manning later wrote he “didn’t think the (female) trainer would see” but when she did, “it seemed like something she’d have laughed at, considering” the locker room environment. But physics suggest she could not have seen anything else except his nude posterior.

    What the track athlete and the female trainer said happened then was something else entirely. Distinctions make a difference.

    They testified that he lowered his nude bottom, straddled her head and smothered her face. If you have an image of a grotesque, humiliating assault, that describes what he did. She eventually forced him off and ran from the room. She filed a report with the campus sexual assault program and fled school.

    Later she sued the university for 33 counts of sexual discrimination, including the Manning event. She settled for $300,000. Manning faced no public ridicule, because social media was barely born then. Few outside of Tennessee knew what he’d done.

    Plus, the university and his family of football stars insistently applied the “boys-will-be-boys” mooning definition.

    Was it just a stupid thing any college kid might do? Or part of a pattern? Besides, it was 1996 which makes it ancient history.

    Fast forward to 2000. The Manning family men commissioned a ghostwritten autobiography in which Manning recounts the event again and characterizes the trainer as having a “vulgar mouth.” The passage is leaked to her new collegiate employer who demotes and eventually fires her.

    Jamie Ann Naughright, now a doctor of sports medicine, sues Manning for defamation. And wins. The financial settlement is secret and stipulates neither party will speak of the event again.

    Fast forward again. In an ESPN profile of Manning, he again alludes to the event, thus apparently breaking the terms of the previous suit. She sues again.

    At every point, keepers of the Manning Brand — university, family, lawyers, shills and Manning himself — have minimized what he did.

    Yes, fans, I don’t like Peyton Manning. Perhaps I merely am more indifferent to him than other players. It’s time and energy wasted.

    I don’t like the totally contrived Manning Brand, which is a valuable product. He, like his brand, is a commodity.

    As for Manning’s role as football giant, who really cares? It’s a game. If you paid the best hopscotch player in the solar system a few million to leap from block to block, it still would not make the activity important.

    The man who trained 20 years to tighten the heart valve suture perfectly on your mother’s bypass is important. The kindergarten teacher who gathers 20 children around her every day, and introduces them to the love of stories and words is important.

    The hometown postal worker who digs through a large dirty bin for 20 minutes just to find the lost letter from your child. That’s important.

    Maybe I’ll watch the Super Bowl. Maybe I won’t. It’s only a consumer product you are being lobbied to buy.

    In truth, I’m just not every interested.

    There will be important people doing important jobs Sunday. Peyton Manning isn’t one of them.

    David.Rutter@live.com

    Copyright © 2016, Lake County News-Sun

    #38763
    wv
    Participant

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/07/super-bowl-50-broncos-panthers-peyton-manning-peter-king
    “….is the way the Broncos’ defense beat Ben Roethlisberger, Tom Brady and Cam Newton in their great playoff run. Denver has a great defense. Holding Big Ben to 16 points, Brady to 18 and MVP Newton to 10? Holding the Steelers, Patriots and Panthers to four touchdowns in 12 quarters? Carolina, New England and Pittsburgh were 1-3-4 in the league in scoring, yet managed all of seven third-down conversions in three games….”

    #38769
    zn
    Moderator

    The Broncos set a record with 12 straight failures to convert on 3rd down.

    Yet some idiot Ram fans would have you believe that Fisher doesn’t know how to build a championship offense.

    You jest, but this is interesting.

    We all know it’s easier to get somewhere with a top qb.

    But then having a top qb isn’t as easy when that qb is facing a defense of high quality. Like, for example, Denver’s.

    So, post-season and regular season combined, Denver’s record against top 15 qbs in 2015 (measured by qb rating) was 9-2. That includes games against Brady, Newton, Stafford, Roethlisberger, Smith, Rivers, and Rodgers.

    Every single one of those qbs was ranked higher in 2015 (again by qb rating) than Peyton.

    Actually Nick Foles was ranked higher than Peyton.

    .

    #38792
    zn
    Moderator

    ‘We Read Them Like a Book’

    Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and his unit utilized ‘green-dog’ blitzes and an extra lineman to overwhelm Cam Newton and a Panthers offense that had no answers in Super Bowl 50

    by Andy Benoit

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/02/08/nfl-super-bowl-50-denver-broncos-defense

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. — All week long the question was, How would the Broncos react to Cam Newton. Sunday’s answer: they’d make Newton react to them.
    “He really doesn’t scramble a whole lot,” defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said, holding the Lombardi Trophy. “He tries to throw from the pocket.”

    The Broncos at times dedicated a spy on Newton in situations where he would be more inclined to scramble, but mostly they went into attack mode, blitzing Newton out of their man-to-man packages.

    Phillips’ biggest decision heading into this game was what to do with his extra defenders. He knew that in man coverage he’d often have at least one, and maybe two. The Panthers, after all, like to keep a tight end and/or fullback in to help their athletically average offensive line in pass protection. So what do you do with the man-to-man defenders who are assigned to the tight end or fullback?

    Phillips’ solution was to have them blitz. This tactic, known as green-dog blitzing, is an aggressive yet relatively safe way to combat a dual threat quarterback like Newton. As long as the green-dog blitzers are patient and sure that their man is not just chip-blocking but actually staying in all the way, and as long as they’re disciplined in their rush lanes so as not to disrupt the four rushing defensive lineman, it can be a lethal approach.
    Linebacker Brandon Marshall, who has been a key green-dog blitzer for Denver all season, said this was the plan every time they saw extra men stay in to help pass protect. “In a lot of games we saw on film, Newton was just sitting back, patting the ball,” Marshall said. “We’d see two [free defenders] in the middle of the field just not doing anything.”

    “They did everything that we saw on film,” Marshall said. “That’s the crazy thing. Nothing new.”

    Another crucial benefit of green-dog blitzing is it prevents those extra blockers from doing what they’re employed specifically to do, which is help the offensive line. Tight end Ed Dickson can’t help heavy-legged right tackle Mike Remmers with a double team on Von Miller if Dickson has to react to a safety coming after his quarterback. Fullback Mike Tolbert can’t lend a hand to slower-footed Michael Oher against DeMarcus Ware if a linebacker has suddenly pinned his ears back and is rushing.

    And often, the Panthers like to have Dickson and Tolbert blocking on the same side so that the entire O-line can slide the other way. By green dog blitzing, that O-line slide gets nullified because the green-dog blitzers become the edge rushers, allowing the D-lineman to run twists and stunts just a few slots over against the sliding blockers.

    With this proactive approach, the Broncos turned in one of the most dominant Super Bowl performances in history. The Panthers offense scored a season-low in points (10) and gave up season-highs in turnovers (four) and sacks (seven).

    Adding players to the pass rush “flustered them a lot,” said safety T.J. Ward. “They didn’t expect that.”

    Ward was asked if the Panthers showed them anything that they didn’t expect. “No. We read them like a book.”

    “They did everything we watched on film,” said fellow safety Darian Stewart.

    The safeties weren’t the only ones saying this. Marshall, when asked the question, laughed. (Causing linebacker Todd Davis, one locker over, to also laugh.) “They did everything that we saw on film,” Marshall said. “That’s the crazy thing. You’d think with two weeks to prepare for the Super Bowl, they would do a new wrinkle. They did everything the same. Nothing new.”
    The only man who could think of any unexpected play from Carolina was, of course, Coach Phillips. He cited the Ted Ginn throwback attempt to Newton (which the Broncos took away) and the misdirection third-and-short throw to Greg Olsen (which got the Broncos).

    Besides green-dog blitzing, Phillips’ other big focus was taking away Carolina’s running game. The Panthers, with all of their heavy two-tight end and two-back sets, present a lot of moving pieces on the ground. But they’ll also run the ball out of what’s become the default formation leaguewide: three wide receivers. Phillips noticed something here. “They can’t run against a seven man front with three wide receivers.”

    Few teams had exploited Carolina here because defenses often play a six-man front against three-receiver sets if it’s a passing situation. The Panthers are willing to still run in those situations, which concerned Phillips. So, to put an extra body in the front—which was crucial given that Newton must be treated as a ballcarrier—Phillips in certain scenarios replaced one of his nickel safeties with a fifth defensive lineman. That gave the Broncos five men along the line of scrimmage but still three corners in coverage. It’s a brilliant ploy because corners Aqib Talib, Chris Harris and Bradley Roby can easily cover Carolina’s mediocre wide receivers one-on-one. An extra safety wasn’t necessary.

    Taking away the run was critical for two reasons: (1) It’s what the Panthers do best; and (2) Stopping it creates the third-and-long situations that allow guys like Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware to tee off on iffy offensive tackles.

    Not to mention, Denver felt that Carolina in obvious passing situations was schematically limited. “You can tell they spend more time on their run game than their passing game,” said Ward. “Their run game is intricate, with the hand-offs and the option runs, and guys pulling. Their passing game is pretty much what they show you in their previous weeks.”

    And so the team that John Elway built to win via defense has claimed the franchise’s third Super Bowl thanks to a destructive defense. Talent was key, as it always is. But just as important is identifying the most advantageous ways to use the talent. The Broncos did this with tactical aggressiveness in all phases.

    #38805
    lyser
    Participant

    A college kid mooned somebody. It was probably bad, never heard that story before – bad Peyton bad boy! But a hell of a career and way to top it off.

    We all have our things. I used to like to moon sorority girls drunk back in the day. I’m no fool, so I would take a cab. The fucked up thing is the cab has those child safety windows, so the back window goes only half way down. Yeah, you can get your ass out there, but the turkey neck hangy back of the balls part is hidden by the child safety feature, that is the best part of the moon! This is why I hate children – so much wasted cab fare.

    Paraphrased from Doug Stanhope. I didn’t really do that shit, I love kids, have 4 I take care of, more some days. Laff.

    #38806
    zn
    Moderator

    #38807
    lyser
    Participant

    no – is that for real? Holy shit what a freak. I just got hammered and cried after the Pats SB.

    #38809
    wv
    Participant

    ‘We Read Them Like a Book’

    Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and his unit utilized ‘green-dog’ blitzes and an extra lineman to overwhelm Cam Newton and a Panthers offense that had no answers in Super Bowl 50

    by Andy Benoit

    Well, i dunno. Its easy to second-guess the Panthers
    strategy. But that team was 15-1. If indeed
    they just went with what had worked all year,
    i can understand that approach. Thats kinda
    what Martz seemed to do — the “lets just do
    what WE do best” approach…

    I’d also point out, the Broncos have
    D.Ware and Von Miller — two all-pro, elite
    Pass Rushers.

    Two.

    Like (healthy?) Quinn and A.D.

    w
    v

    #38812
    zn
    Moderator

    Thats kinda
    what Martz seemed to do — the “lets just do
    what WE do best” approach…

    The difference is, Martz set it up so the Rams would not have readable tendencies.

    Worked like this. The way they called passing plays combined different routes. So the players only had to know the routes–not the plays per se. That meant he could install up to a 100 plays per game, with each player just knowing what they individually had to do. This allowed him to vary the plays endlessly.

    When Saunders was the OC in KC, he did the same thing, and talked about it at length.

    So Carolina was just running the same pass plays, and therefore showed tendencies. They counted on execution. Martz and Saunders would make it so there were no tendencies…they focused on the playcalling, not the execution (because you can’t practice 100 plays per week).

    They also both relied on sight adjustments so that the play would change depending on what the defense did.

    This is something about Saunders and how they worked that:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/20/AR2006012001673.html

    In terms of play calling, Redskins fans will recognize traits of the Saunders offense, an example being personnel groupings that feature Gibbs staples such as two-tight end sets and three-receiver formations with pass patterns coming out of bunch alignments (a combination of tight ends and/or wide receivers lined up in a “bunch” on one side of the formation).

    One key difference is that while Gibbs veered toward a more conservative, ground-oriented approach when he left San Diego to take over the Redskins in 1981, Saunders’s philosophy begins with aggressively pushing the ball downfield and then mixing the pass and run to keep defenses off-balance.

    Gibbs sees virtue in running a play until the defense stops it, but Saunders preaches unpredictability. With that in mind, the Chiefs often ran out of the shotgun formation and passed out of traditional under-center formations, and would often run on third and five or longer and pass on second and short. Saunders almost never called the same play out of the same formation twice in the same game — or even in a string of games.

    Perhaps more than any team in football, the Chiefs used pre-snap shifting and motion by players to create mismatches, particularly for Gonzalez, who always draws extra attention from linebackers and safeties. It wasn’t unusual for the Chiefs to be snapping the football as the defense still adjusted to the last shift or motion.

    And Green almost never changed plays at the line of scrimmage. Saunders’s philosophy is that any play he calls should work against any defense because of the options within the play. Saunders would call a play from the coaches’ box, it would be relayed to Green from the sideline and Green would call it in the huddle. Like all veteran quarterbacks, Green sometimes would have liked to have had the option to change a play, but one major bonus of the system was that the Chiefs were rarely hit with delay-of-game penalties.

    Saunders’s unpredictable play-calling style was epitomized by a 40-34 victory over Green Bay at Lambeau Field during the 2003 season. On the first possession of overtime, Saunders ran Holmes nine consecutive plays and then, after the Chiefs missed a field goal but got the ball back on a fumble recovery near midfield, Green dropped back and hit wide receiver Eddie Kennison for the winning touchdown.

    #38814
    wv
    Participant

    Saunders was hired by Hue Jackson and the Browns,
    i saw. It’ll be interesting to see how that works out.

    I think all of us who have enjoyed learning about the history
    of GSOT offense over the years (Gillman, Coryell, Zampese, Saunders, Martz, etc), have sorta kept an eye on guys like Saunders
    to see how that offense is doing, and what permutations
    are still taking place.

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    #38822
    lyser
    Participant

    Martz shoulda run the ball more. Let’s talk about that to death some more. Too bad they were tackling/holding MF all game.

    Fuck the Patriots again.

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