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    Billy_T
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    I agree with nearly all of this. Didn’t know they had moved Hoecht to linebacker.

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    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2022/11/27/23481378/rams-chiefs-winners-losers-sean-mcvay-jalen-ramsey

    Rams Winners & Losers: Sean McVay has maintained a competitive locker room amid struggles

    McVay admitted before the season he’s never coached in adversarial conditions, now he’s getting more than his fair share
    By JB Scott Nov 27, 2022, 9:32pm CST 20 Comments / 20 New

    It was no secret that the Los Angeles Rams were outmatched in almost every facet of the game when they took the field on the home turf of the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday afternoon. While the final score seems lopsided at 26-10, LA fought to stay competitive.

    The Chiefs are 8-2 and are the current favorites to represent the AFC in the 2022 Super Bowl, which would be their third such berth in four years. The Rams are now 3-8 and have tapped into the lowest rungs of their depth chart – further than they realistically could have expected at the start of the year.

    After winning Super Bowl LVI this calendar year, Los Angeles was forced to trot out their third-string quarterback, Bryce Perkins, against one of the top signal callers in all the NFL, Patrick Mahomes. The result wasn’t pretty, but the Rams made it as much of a fight as they could have hoped for.

    Here’s who stood out on an individual level:
    Winners

    Sean McVay, Head Coach

    The Rams’ leading man said in a glowing profile this offseason that he’s never known what it’s like to coach in adversarial conditions, but he’s getting more than his fair share in 2022. With injuries continuing to erode this roster and forcing players onto the field before they are ready, McVay has done an admirable job keeping his locker room intact and fostering a continually competitive environment.

    Look around the league at other teams at a 3-8 record or similar. You can tell if their coach still earns the respect of his team – and that’s not a problem for McVay in his first losing season. There’s no reason to think McVay isn’t the right guy to help steer Los Angeles back towards winning in 2023.
    Rams fans had a good showing

    I was at the game and was surprised how much royal blue there was in the stands. Perhaps it was mostly fans that stuck with the team through its relocation from St. Louis to Los Angeles and made the four-hour drive to Kansas City. The Rams play at Arrowhead only once every eight years typically, so good on fans for making an appearance on Sunday afternoon.

    Michael Hoecht, OLB

    Hoecht entered the NFL as an undrafted free agent in 2020 and has been a depth piece along the Rams’ interior defensive line since. He’s one of LA best special teams players, and he’s willing to run down the field on kickoffs in a way you wouldn’t expect for a defensive tackle.

    And now that makes sense, because Hoecht has transformed his body and grown into an outside linebacker for Los Angeles – a role he’s taken to over the last two weeks. The Rams released Justin Hollins this week, but Hoecht has also leapfrogged over former third rounder Terrell Lewis on the depth chart.

    It’s not just impressive that Hoecht has earned playing time – he’s also playing well. He pressured Mahomes on multiple occasions, drew a holding penalty, and recorded six tackles. There was one play where Mahomes completed an intermediate throw to a receiver and Hoecht ran from the backfield to take the ball carrier down – a sign of relentless effort.

    Tutu Atwell, WR

    We’ve been told all season that Atwell’s understanding of the route tree has not yet developed to the point where he can be a mainstay in the offensive rotation; however, the second-year receiver’s performance in Kansas City shows he can get open on short and intermediate crossing routes in addition to deep routes. Perkins and Atwell connected on fourth-and-two to convert, which shows the receiver is ready for more work in this offense.

    It’ll be important to continue to involve Atwell with Allen Robinson ruled out for the remainder of the season.

    AJ Arcuri, LT

    It was tough for the Ty Nsekhe to be inactive for this game due to injury after he played well last week against the New Orleans Saints; however, his absense allowed the Rams to get an extended look at seventh round rookie AJ Arcuri.

    Frank Clark bested the rookie early on, but Arcuri seemed to settle in and played well for the rest of the game. He also looks the part as a large, physically imposing body.

    There’s no reason to trot out Nsekhe at this point, as there’s limited benefit in giving playing time to a 37 year old journeyman over a developing rookie.

    Nick Scott, DB

    David Long, Taylor Rapp, and Nick Scott all three are key secondary players with contracts that are set to expire after the season, but only Scott seems worth retaining at this point.

    He made a key interception on Mahomes in the end zone to end a Chiefs drive, and he laid several big hits on rookie running back Isiah Pacheco.

    Losers
    Bryce Perkins, QB

    Perkins had the opportunity in this game to show he’s capable of being the full-time understudy to Matthew Stafford moving forward, but he didn’t show the ability to consistently throw the football down the field.

    Yes, Perkins is downright electric with the football in his hands – but he needs to show growth at getting the ball into the hands of his teammates if he wants to take the next step in his career.

    David Long & Derion Kendrick, CB

    Most of the Chiefs’ biggest passing plays came against either Long or Kendrick in coverage. Kendrick was also flagged for a holding call and was caught on multiple occasions playing the receiver instead of looking back for the ball.

    The Rams continue to cite that they cannot run their coverage schemes as intended due to a lack of trust in the secondary, which makes their decision to let Darious Williams walk in free agency more of a head scratcher.

    It’s fine to move on from Williams if you had a plan to replace him, but the Rams vision is not clear here. Either Long didn’t take a step forward as expected or LA underestimated how much of a loss Williams actually was.

    Leonard Floyd, OLB

    In a game where Aaron Donald was consistently disruptive in the backfield, the Rams really needed another defender to complement his pass rush production. You’d expect Floyd to be that person, but he didn’t generate much pass rush production and even lost contain on Mahomes on multiples plays – leading to big scrambles by the quarterback.

    Matt Skura & Oday Aboushi, OG

    The interior offensive line did not hold up in pass protection, but they had a tough matchup against Chris Jones – who’s even rivaling Aaron Donald in terms of pass rush production this season.

    By my eye test Skura was the biggest liability along the offensive line, but I’m not sure Aboushi played much better. If Matthew Stafford was in this game we might have been looking at a seven or eight sack game, so this unit should be grateful for Perkins’ ability to evade pressure.
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    zn
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    Rams can’t fall further, so now they find out who they’ll really be

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/3942770/2022/11/27/rams-chiefs-week-12-sean-mcvay/

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — In offensive group meetings this week, Rams head coach Sean McVay asked his players, “what did you want to do when you grew up?”

    Most of them answered instantly: “Play professional football.” McVay’s point was understood. Even in the worst losing streak of his tenure, the worst in some of these players’ careers, the worst-after-Super Bowl season so far by any team in NFL history, he didn’t want players to forget that they’d once dreamed of being where they are.

    “It’s tough, the way the season has been going. It’s hard. Guys want to win,” receiver Van Jefferson told The Athletic postgame. “(But) you get to go out here and play, something that you love to do. So why not just go out there and just play and be free? Every guy in this locker room wanted to be a professional football player. Coach McVay said, ‘Why don’t you guys just go out there and play, then? Have fun.’ It just brought me back. I was in the eighth grade. What did I want to do? Play professional football.

    “No matter what … keep playing.”

    The Rams are currently without their starting quarterback, their top two receivers (No. 2 Allen Robinson has a stress fracture in his navicular bone and will have season-ending surgery next week), their top run-stuffing defensive tackle, and are playing a bunch of fifth- and sixth-string offensive linemen — many of whom weren’t even on the roster in September or October. The team doesn’t know whether franchise quarterback Matthew Stafford, who has a neck injury and is in the concussion protocol, will be back this year.

    And yet there they were, hanging with the powerhouse Kansas City Chiefs at halftime. A game that some expected to feature the home team resting starters by the third quarter instead was 13-3 when it began. The Rams weren’t moving the ball altogether efficiently through the air in the first and second quarters, no — but it seemed like they didn’t expect to, instead calling a game that intended to try to sustain drives and play keep-away from MVP-frontrunner Patrick Mahomes while also protecting their inexperienced backup quarterback, Bryce Perkins, from erring in low-probability throwing situations minus Cooper Kupp and Robinson and behind their 11th offensive line iteration in 11 games.

    There are no moral victories, but this group — led by Perkins, a motley crew of offensive linemen and receivers, and a defense that has finally decided it will go down swinging — tried to punch its way out of a four-game slide in the most hostile of Kansas City environments Sunday. They lost, sure. They’re doing a lot of that these days.

    And sure, some of the punches were those blind, flailing swings. The Rams gave up a hot-knife-meets-butter touchdown to tight end Travis Kelce, with cornerback Jalen Ramsey the nearest defender on the play. Perkins threw two interceptions in the fourth quarter, two drive-breakers after promising red zone stands and even an end zone interception by safety Nick Scott (the Rams’ second defensive takeaway in eight games). A missed tackle on a third-and-4 could have been a momentum-altering stop on the Chiefs’ first drive of the third quarter, but instead it set up a 71-yard drive. Even McVay sustained an injury in a year of catastrophic injuries when undrafted free agent tight end Roger Carter, in his first game active, popped him in the face with his shoulder pad while jogging onto the field. McVay’s cheek was swollen and discolored postgame, but he doesn’t think his jaw is broken.

    “I took a good shot, Roger ran right into me,” McVay said postgame. “It was a good shot. I was thinking, ‘have a little awareness running by me, oh my gosh.’ It’s really not that big of a deal, it (probably) looked worse when you end up replaying it.”

    Par for the course for this embattled team.

    But for anyone who went into this thing with a clear-headed understanding of the stakes (essentially none) and the expectations (low) and a big-picture mindset, there were bright spots that the Rams desperately needed to see. Their special teams unit forced its first takeaway of the year when second-year receiver Ben Skowronek spooked the returner and helped force a muffed punt that was recovered by second-year cornerback Robert Rochell. Punter Riley Dixon converted a fourth down on a fake punt pass to receiver Jacob Harris, which was the latter’s first NFL reception.

    “Every team is going to get our best shot, no matter what,” said core special teamer Christian Rozeboom. “Putting the guys on the field that are bought-in, especially on special teams — you have to have guys that are bought in to doing their very small part.”

    The Rams’ lone touchdown drive showed some of their mettle, too. Perkins made two fourth-and-short plays, including a pass to second-year receiver Tutu Atwell on fourth-and-2 in which Perkins, his protection collapsing, threw out-of-structure and on the move for the conversion. Perkins’ first NFL touchdown was also on fourth-and-2 on the drive, to Jefferson. On the play, Skowronek’s route concept pulled away a defender (Jefferson praised him for this postgame) and rookie running back Kyren Williams picked up a nasty pressure to get Perkins the time to make the throw in the pocket.

    “If I’m on the football field, and I shy away from contact, take me off the field,” Williams said. “You shouldn’t be on the field if you’re not willing to give it all for your team.”

    And the defense — no, it wasn’t perfect. Defensive backs got beat on a couple key throws (and in tight coverage, by the way). The Chiefs had five plays (all pass plays) of 20-plus yards, about on par with their NFL-high average of 5.5 such plays per game. The Rams have also essentially re-set their pass rush after losing defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson to a meniscus tear and cutting outside linebacker Justin Hollins last week.

    Yet there was something there, a pissiness and a swagger aimed toward holding the wall against Mahomes and company’s notoriously productive red zone offense. The Chiefs entered Week 12 scoring touchdowns when in the red zone at a 72 percent rate, third-best in the NFL. They do it in all manner of baffling, mind-bending ways; an NFL team knows when planning against this offense and this quarterback that they are going to pile up some serious yardage. Sunday, the Rams held the Chiefs to 1-of-6 in the red zone with an interception, including a stop after a sudden change when Perkins threw a pick. That’s a pretty significant statement from a group that, for the past two weeks against backup and journeymen quarterbacks, all but sky-wrote that they were handing it in for the year.

    “The defense did an amazing job being able to get red-area stops,” said McVay. “Proud there. The guys just did a great job. Outstanding ability to make them snap it one more time, relentless pursuit to the football. I thought we were cleaner in our execution on the communication from the front to the back, on all three levels of the defense. There’s gonna be some things that we want back. But I think that was something that you can absolutely build on. That was more in alignment of what we expect from those guys against an excellent offense. … That’s a group that has a lot of pride.”

    There was an intriguing speed-power combination at work between star defensive lineman Aaron Donald and undrafted free agent defensive lineman Michael Hoecht, against both the run and the pass. There was certain energy that the Rams will now explore with Hoecht and defensive lineman Marquise Copeland, two guys who weren’t in the defensive rotation when the year began. The energy was similar to that from the offense when it stared down the goal line on fourth-and-2 and the roaring mass of red behind the end zone, and scored — with a bunch of players who weren’t in the offensive rotation when the year began.

    The Rams are going to part ways with many of the players on this roster in the coming months (some via free agency, others not), but some of them will stick because it’s right about now that the coaching staff and front office is looking to see if they can.

    “That (evaluation) is definitely something that you want to be mindful of,” said McVay, “and really as a result of the amount of injuries, it’s got to occur. You don’t really have a choice. Guys are going to get some opportunities … and you’re getting good evaluations. That’s the only way you can look at it.”

    McVay’s question to his players this week was, “what did you want to do when you grow up?” He, and they, will ask it of themselves now, too — just in a slightly different way.

    They’re about to do some more growing up. And they’re about to find out who they will become because of it.

    #141867
    zn
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    Rams PFF Grades: Positive individual performances from LA’s fifth straight loss
    Tutu Atwell & Brandon Powell played well in replacement of Allen Robinson

    By JB Scott

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2022/11/28/23482250/rams-chiefs-pff-grades-tutu-atwell-brandon-powell

    The 2022 season went off the rails for the Los Angeles Rams several weeks ago. The continued slew of injuries along the offensive line have been too much for the offense to overcome, and now LA is also thin at wide receiver.

    With no Allen Robinson or Cooper Kupp, the degree of difficulty was incredibly high for Bryce Perkins in his first career start – which came behind this makeshift offensive line. Fortunately there were younger receivers that stepped up and showed promise, and they will have opportunities over the remainder of the season to show they can be trusted heading into 2023.

    Here’s who stood out on an individual level in terms of Pro Football Focus (PFF) grading against the Kansas City Chiefs:

    Top five grades on offense:

    1 – Rob Havenstein, RT: 86.3
    The leader along the offensive line earned an elite mark in run blocking – 90.9

    2 – Oday Aboushi, RG: 77.8
    The interior offensive line struggled in pass protection though the PFF grades tell us Matt Skura was more to blame than Aboushi and Coleman Shelton (63.2).

    3 – Tutu Atwell, WR: 72.4
    Atwell played a career-high 28 snaps and showed there’s more to his understanding of the route tree than running “go” routes. Hopefully he has an opportunity to play with Matthew Stafford – the Rams’ only NFL caliber thrower of the football – this offseason to further his development.

    4 – Cam Akers, RB: 71.3
    One important note: Akers was asked to help in pass protection on two occasions earning a grade in that facet of 74.5. Rookie Kyren Williams had three pass blocking reps but had a grade of just 15.2. Williams played 39 snaps as opposed to Akers’ 16.

    5 – Brandon Powell, WR: 67.5

    Other notes on offense:

    Perkins earned a 54.1 overall grade, which is notably better than the mark earned by John Wolford in his own start this season against the Arizona Cardinals. Perkins has cemented himself as the primary backup to Matthew Stafford this season, though the Rams should look to upgrade over both Perkins and Wolford this offseason.

    The left side of the offensive line did not fare well at all. Rookie seventh round LT AJ Arcuri earned a 48.4 overall grade and a 29.4 pass blocking grade – though he seemed to get more comfortable as the game went on. Veteran LG Matt Skura was slightly lower at 47.2 but struggled in the running game.

    Top five grades on defense:

    1 – Jalen Ramsey, CB: 76.9
    Ramsey was targeted three times in coverage giving up a completion for 39 yards and a touchdown (to Travis Kelce). It was an ugly play for the star corner early in the game, but he fared well for the rest of the afternoon.

    2 – Bobby Brown, NT: 73.4
    The second-year nose tackle played just five snaps but graded out much better than starter Greg Gaines (31.9). With Gaines set to hit free agency after the season, perhaps it’s time to give Brown more playing time.

    3 – Taylor Rapp, DB: 72.5
    Rapp was solid on Sunday – giving up five completions on seven attempts for 34 yards (long of 9). The veteran safety likely does not figure into the team’s plans after 2022, but this was one of his better games.

    4 – Jonah Williams, DE: 70.7

    5 – Aaron Donald, DE: 62.8
    This is just about the lowest you will see from Donald, as the Chiefs’ interior offensive line did a fine job slowing the star down. Donald made a number of impact plays early but faded down the stretch. Patrick Mahomes also extended plays and evaded pressure on a number of occasions.

    Other notes on defense:

    Michael Hoecht, who started his career with the Rams along the interior defensive line, recorded two pressures as an OLB. He was the seventh-highest graded defender for Los Angeles against the Chiefs at 59.9.

    Bobby Wagner continues to struggle in coverage. allowing completions on all three of his targets for 47 yards. Second-year MLB Ernest Jones didn’t fare much better, as he was targeted eight times and gave up six completions for 61 yards.

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