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  • #146814

    In reply to: Rams sign Wentz

    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Wentz: “…”And so I just didn’t feel like God had closed that door, so I’ve been kind of just patiently waiting and staying ready…” I was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player. w v

    Good one, WV.

    I think sometimes it’s legit, though. Of course, we’re on the outside looking in, so we don’t really know.

    Ramsey, for instance, was considered a bit of a coach-killer and poor locker-room guy before the Rams traded for him. From publicly available reports, he became a great locker-room presence, a real team-leader, and as important off the field as on it.

    OBJ was kinda in that range too.

    #146791

    In reply to: Rams sign Wentz

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    Wentz: “…”And so I just didn’t feel like God had closed that door, so I’ve been kind of just patiently waiting and staying ready…”

     

    I was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player.

     

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    #146285
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    Speaking of that, what are your thoughts on the defensive backs? I was worried going into the season, but it appears they’re playing pretty well, all things considered.

    They are ahead of schedule, and this makes this season far more interesting and entertaining than any of the usual rebuilding years we’ve suffered. I don’t recall a recent season without realistic hope of a SB appearance that had more appeal than this season does. Gotta go back to 99

    BT, I see your blocked post, but it looks like you pretty much covered it in your last post about Hoecht. Which I agree w/ btw, I don’t see him as lasting at LB.

    In terms of the secondary, the Rams have done so well picking safeties low in the draft that it’s no surprise there (meaning just safety). Think about it–they’ve scored on Scott, Fuller, and now Yeast and Lake. That’s basically 4 in a row. What surprised me was corner. That’s mostly because of Witherspoon and now maybe Shelley too (Durant has been up and down). I keep not know what to think of Kendrick. Either way, the safeties plus at least Witherspoon seem to actually be the real deal. Right now after 6 games and having played both the Eagles and 9ers, Rams rank 7th in the league at “NFL Team Opponent Average Team Passer Rating.” You can’t do that unless your secondary is good. In fact they’re doing that while being 29th in “Sack Percentage.” 

    With the secondary, it’s coaching and drafting and the players and everything. They’re just playing well overall (though we’ve seen the bloopers too). Not “stars of the league” well, just pretty darn well, which is very satisfying.

    Zooey, I think you hit the nail on the head about this season and put it really well. Best season I can remember where you went in not expecting them to be in a superbowl hunt. The only game I really would complain about is the Bengals game. This year, we were set up to be patient with anything good that showed up being gravy, and it turns out they dumped us in an olympic pool full of gravy.

    #146074

    In reply to: Jefferson traded

    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    . Two Seconds and two Thirds. Gone. It’s really difficult to team-build when that keeps happening.

    Interestingly, the only player still on the Eagles roster from their 2020 draft is Hurts.

     

    ZN, I responded to this earlier, but it was lost in the filter. Probably due to a link.

    Will see if this gets through without it.

    I don’t follow the Iggles, but when I checked, it looked like three players from the 2020 draft are on the active roster, and one is on injured reserve. So four made it through, total.

    To me, though, the point is that the Rams, at least recently, seem to give up on their draft picks early on, even before their first contract expires. And, typically, they either cut them outright or get very little in trade.

    In short, I think they need to do a bit better on team-building, drafting, maximizing trade value, etc. I like their coaching, and think it’s an area of strength overall. But I also think McVay can get impatient, and make impetuous decisions about this or that player. Jourdan has mentioned that they reflect at times on this and admit some errors . . . which is a good sign.

    Hoping for the best, as always.

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    The Rams inexplicably went away from the offensive formula that worked so well against Seattle and SF.  In those games they stuck with their new power running game, even though it wasn’t always working. They were patient.

    Against the Bengals they were impatient They pressed.  Even though going into the game Cincy had not been good against the run, they wouldn’t stick with it – especially in the RZ.

    Then lineman started getting hurt and it was game over.

    #145555

    In reply to: coaching

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    McVay said he always felt like he had to call the perfect play every down because Goff couldn’t make adjustments off script. It was more about QB experience than attitude. McVay never questioned Goff’s willingness to do what was asked of him, just his ability to do it.

    I don’t think that was the issue. I thought that the issue was McV getting openly, publicly critical of Goff in the worst ways–and I don’t mean constructive criticism, I mean dismissive, angry stuff. On the sidelines, in front of the team, and so on. I think he got impatient with Goff’s development. One former Rams offensive coach said that McV knew how to tear Goff down, not how to build him back up. It became a confidence issue for Goff. In Detroit, he has a rapport with his coordinator and they communicate. McVay himself said that communication was an issue with Goff. Natually McV respects the much more veteran Stafford so those issues don’t come up.

    I don’t know what it is with Akers. Now sure what that story is yet. So I don’t have any speculations about it.

    #145047
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    Yeah, i dunno what to think of Bennett. Has McVay ever developed a young QB, and not then screwed them up? I mean, he developed Goff, but then, ya know. w v

    Depends on whether you attribute Kirk Cousins’ development to McVay being the Washington OC. That could also go to the head coach, Jay Gruden.  Gruden became the HC in 2014, and that;s the year Cousins emerges as a starter.

    We know about Goff. McV clearly got impatient with him and didn’t handle that well, starting in 2019.

     

    #144791
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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/08/rams-roster-sean-mcvay-patience-young-players/

    McVay is trying to be as patient as he can, enjoying each day of practice and work he gets with his players.

    “I think the patience is an important thing. I’m not a very patient guy, but hopefully I’ll continue to be a little bit more patient,” McVay told Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports. “But we’re going to compete. We’re going to continue to strain and I think it’s going to be a really fun group to watch the way that these guys compete and hopefully continue to get better every single day, every single week when you guys are seeing us playing these games that count. Man, I’m just enjoying it and it is a blessing.”

    #144527
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    As folks know, I always defended the Stafford trade because Stafford was/is the real deal as a qb. And he aligned better with McV than Goff did, and when that’s the case if you can fix it you do so.

    But I also defended Goff as a player. As I’ve said before a few times, what happened in 2019/2020 was that he lost confidence under McV, who–to put it very bluntly–did not know how to coach him. Obviously McV knows the Xs and Os but the was impatient with his younger, developing qb and chipped at his confidence. Why did this have an effect in 2019/20 and not before? Because before Goff had a direct hands-on qb coach and not someone who just had the title. Starting in 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach.

    I have some backing on this “theory” that comes from good articles on Goff, including the one above. One is from Thiry after the trade. Thiry, unlike anyone else covering the Rams at the time, actually consulted former Rams coaches on the trade and the lead-up to it. Some typical bits from that:

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31123122/why-sean-mcvay-jared-goff-partnership-fell-apart-los-angeles-rams

    But as the 2019 season progressed without the desired results, McVay began to coach Goff more directly and their dynamic began to slowly unravel. “Sean got more involved, was tougher on Jared and didn’t realize that he wasn’t building him back up,” a league source said. Goff complained to others about McVay and vice versa. The two wouldn’t sit down often enough to hammer the issues out….
    For Goff, it became increasingly difficult how often his coach took aim at him — whether on the sideline, in meetings or the practice field….

    “Sean lost touch with how much he was breaking Jared down, but there’s got to be the build back up,” a league source said. “[McVay] was either unaware or disinterested in protecting Jared’s confidence.”

    Now we Pompei’s article above on Goff in Detroit, where they built things around their new qb and worked on making him confident.

    First, Zac Taylor, the former Rams coach who is now the Bengals head coach, knew the Lions now offensive coordinator, Johnson, and Taylor told his friend that he didn’t buy the negative stuff on Goff that surrounded the qb in 2019/20. Remember, Taylor was Goff’s qb coach in 2018. His last top year as a Rams qb. I strongly suspect Taylor was the “league source” who told Thiry that McV tore JG’s confidence down without knowing how to build it back up.

    Taylor [addressed] the negativity surrounding Goff, telling Johnson he didn’t buy into it.

    Things improved for Goff in Detroit when Johnson took over as the OC, and it worked because the 2 were collaborative–something not true of how McV handled Goff in 2019/20.

    By then, Johnson and Campbell had established an offensive foundation of formations and terminology. The rest of the offense would be Johnson’s baby, and he handed it to Goff to cradle.

    In about 24 hours over the three days, Johnson and Goff sat in a meeting room surrounded by whiteboards. They watched Rams video of Goff from 2019 and 2020, talked, took notes and drew plays with dry-erase markers. On the first day, they focused on Goff’s favorite pass and run concepts. The second day was devoted to Rams plays Johnson didn’t completely understand. And on the final day, they brainstormed new directions to take the Lions offense and ways to build on what Goff had already mastered….

    Goff says one of Johnson’s best qualities is how he listens. “I know anything I say to him will be taken pretty seriously,” Goff says. “He really values my opinion and cares about what I’m saying. That’s huge for a quarterback.”

    Johnson’s trust in Goff is evident not just in what he says in interviews but what he says on the sidelines. Goff has significant autonomy at the line of scrimmage, more than most quarterbacks and more than he ever had previously. In the Lions’ “Auto” package, Goff reads the defense and chooses from as many as five plays.

    This was all designed to build and then take advantage of JG’s confidence.

    As many know, after the trade I always said McV would work better with Stafford than he did with Goff because the veteran qb had played longer in the league than McV had coached in it. It was always going to be a collaborative relationship, with McV listening more with Stafford than he would with Goff. In 2020, McV was frustrated with Goff (and let it show) because JG was not adapting well to the offense McV was pushing. In Detroit, under Johnson, they did the exact opposite. The core of the offense was built around what Goff did best and liked most. The offense was built around HIM, instead of what McV did, which was try to build the offense a certain way and then get frustrated with JG when JG couldn’t keep up.

    I think that’s a weakness of McV’s as a coach (ie. his impatience) but then all coaches have weaknesses, so I am not “slamming” McV–some marriages just don’t work. McV, at the time anyway, was just going to be more impatient with Goff than he would ever have been or ever will be with Stafford.

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    2023 NFL Preview: ‘Boring’ Rams take foot off the gas after awful Super Bowl defense

    Frank Schwab
    NFL/betting writer
    Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 5:21 AM PDT·11 min read

    If the Los Angeles Rams didn’t win a Super Bowl two seasons ago, everything would look calamitous about now.

    The Rams finished a horrendous 5-12 last season. The Rams had to deal with another retirement tease from coach Sean McVay, though McVay stayed again. They traded star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins and got very little back. The Rams signed two outside veteran free agents: backup quarterback Brett Rypien on a one-year, $1.08 million deal, and then in June they added receiver Demarcus Robinson for one year and $1.165 million. Los Angeles didn’t have the draft picks to replenish the roster, unless a lot of third-day picks hit. Time seems to be ticking on how long Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald will be around, too.

    The offseason was so bad, COO Kevin Demoff had to send an open letter to season ticket holders in late March, reassuring them they expected to still compete for a playoff spot but explaining that the team knew it would have to “pull back on our typical approach to help continue our sustained run of success.” That meant instead of their usual splashy trades and lavish signings, they would hold onto draft picks and get the salary cap in order. That’s why the Rams have an astonishing $72.2 million in dead cap space this year.

    Going into the offseason general manager Les Snead called what the Rams had to go through a “remodel” and not a rebuild. He acknowledged, via the Los Angeles Daily News, the Rams would have to “not press the gas as much, pay a little bit of the debt that we’ve accumulated.”

    “We’re the ‘boring’ Rams this year,” Snead said, via The Athletic.

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    It doesn’t have to take long for NFL teams to rebuild. If you hear that a team has set itself back a decade, you can ignore it. That’s two, maybe three, lifetimes in the NFL these days. Demoff’s letter to season ticket holders pointed out that the Super Bowl-winning team had 19 starters that didn’t start in the Rams’ Super Bowl loss three years prior. Things can change, good or bad, in a hurry. The Rams know that well.

    That doesn’t mean a “remodel” will be easy, or that 2023 will show many signs of progress. The Rams didn’t totally tear it down when they traded Ramsey, but it seems like they’re holding onto the past by not moving Stafford, Donald or Cooper Kupp. They have a full load of draft picks in 2024 including their first-rounder after a patient offseason. Maybe they should have dove in and traded anything of value, perhaps entering the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye sweepstakes. There was probably too much pride for that.

    A rough couple years are coming but you can’t erase Feb. 12, 2022, when the Rams beat the Cincinnati Bengals for the Lombardi Trophy. The many experts who want to dunk on their all-in approach seem to forget that. That will be remembered a lot longer than the Rams’ record these few seasons as they regroup. However, whenever the list of bad seasons for defending Super Bowl champions is brought up, the 2022 Rams will be the first one mentioned.

    The Rams were dreadful. It didn’t look that bad before the bye, when they were 3-3 with losses to the Buffalo Bills, Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers. Those were three of the best teams in the NFL. After that it was painful. They lost six straight after the bye. They did have a ridiculous comeback win against the Las Vegas Raiders with Baker Mayfield playing quarterback a couple days after he was signed, and a blowout of a Denver Broncos team that was having an even more awful season than the Rams. But those were rare highlights.

    They lost Stafford, Kupp and Donald to season-ending injuries. The Rams built a top-heavy roster and those injuries made their lineup look like it was the preseason. Their 12 losses was the most for a defending Super Bowl champion, beating the record of the 1999 Broncos who went 6-10 after John Elway retired. McVay, who contemplated retirement after the Super Bowl too, looked miserable most of the season and it sounded like he was going to step away. Then he suddenly said he’d be back.

    That’s the first step back for the Rams. McVay and Snead are excellent at their jobs. Maybe Stafford, with growing health concerns, won’t be around much longer. Donald, on a short list of candidates for greatest defensive player ever, has considered retirement too. But there should be faith in the Rams’ brass to fix things quickly.

    McVay and Snead are practically starting over. We’ve seen their approach in chasing a championship, and that hyper-aggressive strategy might not work with a total rebuild. We’ll see if the Rams can drive in the slow lane for a while.

    Offseason grade
    What does life in the NFL look like if you keep kicking your cap issues down the road? The Rams’ free-agent class this offseason is backup quarterback Brett Rypien and receiver Demarcus Robinson. That’s it. Meanwhile, these are among the players they lost in free agency, cuts or trades: cornerback Jalen Ramsey, edge rusher Leonard Floyd, receiver Allen Robinson II, punter Riley Dixon, kicker Matt Gay, safeties Taylor Rapp and Nick Scott, linebacker Bobby Wagner, defensive linemen A’Shawn Robinson and Greg Gaines, and quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and John Wolford. The Rams did get back tight end Hunter Long (one career reception for eight yards) from the Dolphins in the Ramsey trade along with a third-round pick. That’s not getting anyone excited. The draft was all about quantity. The Rams didn’t have a first-round pick. Guard Steve Avila, at No. 36 overall, was their first pick. Edge rusher Byron Young and defensive tackle Kobie Turner were third-round picks. Quarterback Stetson Bennett was a curious pick in the fourth. The Rams had 14 picks but 10 came in the fifth round or later. Some of those players will contribute out of necessity, but it’s hard to rely on late-round picks to become difference makers. The Rams signed 26 undrafted free agents, a stunning number that is another indication of how thin the roster is. It was a dreadful offseason.

    Grade: F

    Quarterback report
    Matthew Stafford ended last season on injured reserve with a spinal cord contusion. Before that he had a concussion. Stafford missed eight games and wasn’t great in the nine games he played, with 10 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Not all of it was his fault. He took 29 sacks behind a beaten-up offensive line — Stafford was sacked 30 times in 17 games during the 2021 season — and it probably won’t get a lot better in 2023. Stafford has a Super Bowl ring, has made a lot of money and thrown for more than 52,000 passing yards. He also has taken 444 sacks in his career. Nobody would have blamed him if he retired. He wasn’t ready to walk away at age 35.

    “I felt really confident I was coming back. I feel like more people were less confident that than I was,” Stafford said in April. “But no, I was ready to go, ready to play as soon as I was cleared. And I feel great. I feel healthy. And, you know, I’m not 25. But I definitely feel good.”

    Assuming Stafford is healthy, he still has the talent to be a top-10 quarterback. The bigger question is if he can play at that level with the holes in the lineup around him.

    BetMGM odds breakdown
    The Rams’ win total at BetMGM is 6.5. While it’s hard to completely bury any team with Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald, the under seems like the right side. The Rams probably should have been lower in these preview rankings, but there’s still some blind faith in that key group of four individuals, who could all have Hall of Fame arguments when they’re done. But the Rams could be really bad. At least they have their 2024 first-round pick.

    Yahoo’s fantasy take
    From Yahoo’s Scott Pianowski: “Cam Akers finally asserted himself as LA’s featured back in the final third of last year, and good numbers went on the board. Over his final six starts, he produced 512 rushing yards (4.9 per carry) and scored six touchdowns, checking in as the RB3 over that cumulative period. The Rams look like a non-contender on paper and the offensive line has concerns, but Akers has little backfield competition and likely marked his territory with that late-season run. Currently priced as the RB18 in Yahoo ADP, Akers probably isn’t a home-run pick — his national ADP is cheaper — but I can at least see profit potential.”

    Stat to remember
    One of the good stories from the 2022 Rams was Akers. After a slow start to the season, Akers was inactive for two games before the trade deadline due to “personal reasons” and there were reports that he and coach Sean McVay disagreed about his role. The Rams didn’t get a trade done and brought Akers back to the lineup. By the end of the season he was back to a workhorse role, gaining 345 yards with a 5.5-yard average in the final three games. He had three 100-yard games for a miserable offense with an offensive line in shambles. Akers, who suffered an Achilles injury in 2021 and rushed back for the team’s playoff run, went from practically being off the roster to looking like the arrow is pointing back up. It was a really strange season for Akers, but it worked out pretty well for everyone involved.

    Burning question
    Who are the Rams’ building blocks?
    Here’s a telling exercise: Figure out who is the fourth-best player on the Rams. The first three are obviously Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp and Matthew Stafford. And No. 4 is … running back Cam Akers? Tight end Tyler Higbee? Offensive tackle Rob Havenstein? Whatever the answer, it’s not good.

    The strategy of trading picks means that you have to hit the mid- and late-round picks you do have, and the Rams haven’t done well in that regard. The best picks the Rams have made since 2017 (when they stole Kupp in the second round) among those still on the roster, are offensive tackle Joseph Noteboom (third round, 2018), Akers (second round, 2020), receiver Van Jefferson Jr. (third round, 2020), safety Jordan Fuller (sixth round, 2020), linebacker Ernest Jones (third round, 2021) and receiver Ben Skowronek (seventh round, 2021). There’s not one top-tier starter on that list. And no 2022 rookies made a notable impact last season, even with the team looking for answers.

    Had the Rams hit more picks the past few years, a rebuild would be easier. But they haven’t, and that makes the hole a lot deeper.

    Best-case scenario
    It’s hard to be optimistic about the Rams, but it’s also hard to look past some of the key figures from the Super Bowl team. Sean McVay is an excellent coach. Aaron Donald might still be the best player in the NFL when healthy. Cooper Kupp had one of the greatest seasons any player has ever had in 2021 and he was having another monster season in 2022 before his injury. Matthew Stafford is a capable quarterback. And maybe with better injury luck, the pieces around them contribute a lot more. It can’t be that outlandish to believe the Rams can be in playoff contention, right? The only concern is if they’re in the race before the deadline and start trading off picks again.

    Nightmare scenario
    It’s possible, for different reasons, we’ve already seen the best of Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald and they’re all further down the back nine than we realize. We could actually be a year from a real Rams rebuild, which is scary considering they just had one miserable offseason. It’s not out of the question that the Rams could have the worst record in football if a few things go wrong, and that actually wouldn’t be the worst thing. What would be worse is if they’re really bad but also get enough wins to knock them out of position to start over with one of the top quarterback prospects in next year’s draft.

    The crystal ball says
    The Rams will win some games. They have no depth and will be starting some players who are not ready for that role, but there will be a few games in which their stars take over. It will still be a long season for a team that isn’t far removed from a championship, but that won’t be a surprise. The Rams had to make a decision this offseason. It couldn’t have been enjoyable to admit that they needed to slow things down and retool the roster, but it was the right move.[/quote]

    #143988

    In reply to: Our Draft Reviews

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    But that’s what we get with McSnead. We get brilliance at times, mixed with proverbial head-scratchers and emotionalism.

    I don’t think that’s what we get. What we get is unpredictable actions that defy the norm. The Rams have solved “cap hell” before, with much more strategic cuts and contract restructurings. In fact they consciously and deliberately made the 2023 cap situation worse by just going ahead and taking the big hit on dead money. The idea was, rather than just fix things and going back out with the roster we had, let’s just make it a young team in 2023 while creating cap space in 2024. That’s not desperation moves, that’s a plan. It’s just an unconventional plan.

    I think what they did this time is just the exact opposite of trading for Ramsey during the season while off-loading Peters at the same time–but even though it’s the opposite on paper, it is still the same thing in this sense: a re-thinking of the ordinary process. This time, they went for a re-load and not the big “put us over the top” trade. It defies conventional wisdom but then so did trading for Ramsey and Stafford at the same time while taking rentals on Von Miller and Beckham.

    I don’t see the reload as wrong in any way shape or form. I don’t see it as a crisis in any way shape or form. I see it as them doing what they do–which is not going to be conventional wisdom.

    And they have remarkable success for a team that presumably has a lot of “head scratchers.” Only 1 losing season in 5 years and that was due to an absolutely unprecedented string of injuries, the likes of which we’ve never seen with the Rams.

    In the middle of that I do see a couple of issues. So I am not playing the homer card. I criticize the Rams regularly. To me McV was impatient with Goff and hurt his confidence, but then it’s hard to argue against trading for Stafford. I didn’t like the Atwell pick in round 2, but then this draft they didn’t make that kind of mistake and it’s clear they drafted a top shelf OL who will be there for 10 years.

    They didn’t have to reload in 2023 but IMO deciding to do so was very smart.

    Though…it had better work… 😎

     

    #143642
    Avatar photoBilly_T
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    Another way to go (pre-trade) might have been: Keep Goff, get him more weapons, protect him better, coach him up, and rebuild his confidence. Far less costly and better long term, IMO.

    I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.

    Agreed. McVay lacks patience. Brilliant coach, but impulsive and mercurial, at times. One might even say “fickle” in his football affections. But, I’m still very glad he’s the coach. Just hope he finds a way to smooth the rough edges.

    He might be an excellent candidate for a Zen master to coach him up. Zazen can do wonders.

    #143585
    Avatar photoZooey
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    I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.

    George Allen.

    #143584
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    Another way to go (pre-trade) might have been: Keep Goff, get him more weapons, protect him better, coach him up, and rebuild his confidence. Far less costly and better long term, IMO.

    I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.

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    Rams mailbag

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/4122382/2023/01/26/rams-mailbag-roster-sean-mcvay-matthew-stafford/?source=emp_shared_article

    1. Any clarity on coaching searches? 2. Why the sudden regression of players like Fuller, Rochell, etc. and is this why the let go of Coach Cooley? 3. Rams’ biggest needs? 4. New unis and helmet shell in 2923?

    JR: 1. Yes, and no. With Mike LaFleur the front-runner for offensive coordinator, the next priority is offensive line coach, and that process is ongoing. Meanwhile, other offensive coaches (tight ends, running backs and assistant head coach Thomas Brown and quarterbacks coach/pass game coordinator Zac Robinson) are interviewing externally in a few places and the Rams are waiting for news about defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, whose interview in Indianapolis went well. So, though some spots can be filled, others are in a “wait and see” situation.

    2. Safety Jordan Fuller didn’t regress — he suffered setbacks after a nasty leg injury that ended his 2021 season (and surgery). I expect him to be a full go in 2023. I don’t know that cornerback Robert Rochell regressed so much as didn’t take the next step forward in his development, but the Rams will need to see more from him.

    3. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. A full evaluation of keepers and depth on the offensive line (then go from there). A step forward from some younger cornerbacks and safeties. Maybe a short-yardage running back. Health.

    4. In 2923? I honestly haven’t thought that far ahead.

    Your thoughts on why McVay has gotten away from PA with Stafford, when his career has excelled at just that? From at least 2017 he has been near the top of the league and in DET nonetheless, where they had one of the worst run games seemingly every year.

    JR:For statistical context, just 241 of quarterback Matthew Stafford’s 904 pass plays over the past two seasons were out of play-action concepts (either under center or shotgun, per TruMedia). Before Stafford and under McVay, the Rams ranked in the top five of play-action usage year over year from 2017 through 2020.

    At the beginning of 2021, the Rams’ revamped passing attack blew the doors off the rest of the league through the first half of the season, as they enjoyed league-leading production in explosive passing plays and offensive production (EPA and otherwise). They did it with the near-lowest amount of play action in the NFL, and still trounced the passing stats of those using play action at the highest volume. But when Stafford’s elbow issue flared up around November of that season and the Rams were without an actual lead running back, they lost their footing and had to overhaul their entire run game midseason to get back on track.

    I think there has been transparent conversation among top Rams staff and players about the importance of being able to use a variety of tools in a quarterback’s tool belt, even though that quarterback can make every throw and perhaps prefers the shotgun, empty and dropback game. McVay can be an impatient play caller, and Stafford can be an impatient quarterback. Just because Stafford can make every throw doesn’t mean dropping back is always the most efficient or highest-probability option.

    Will the Rams pursue OBJ this offseason?

    JR: Depending on Odell Beckham Jr.’s health and readiness to play, yes, I believe the Rams will be right back in the mix with him (especially with McVay’s sticking around). They won’t get too risky on the salary, though.

    You have mentioned that Jalen Ramsey’s untouched contract could make him a movement possibility. Can you elaborate on what that means? Also, if Alaric Jackson takes the starting LT position is there trade potential in Noteboom? Maybe too risky considering the injury recency bias? 

    JR: When referring to star cornerback Jalen Ramsey’s contract being “untouched,” I mean teams that can maneuver and manipulate a “clean,” albeit inherited, contract themselves will automatically see that as a reason to inquire about the player, especially one of Ramsey’s status and ability. Which … could be why the Rams haven’t touched the contract yet and other core players were restructured or extended (not necessarily because they wouldn’t want to in the big picture).

    I think the Rams’ best internal option at left tackle is Alaric Jackson. I also don’t think there will be a trade market for Joe Noteboom because he is coming off an Achilles repair surgery. That may mean the Rams will play him at guard because the nature of his deal makes him hard to move. Noteboom has potential — he injured his knee against Buffalo in Week 1 and played through it for the next few weeks.

    Curious why we’ve never had a deep dive into the Rams OL woes. They didn’t invest wisely, devalued the OL and paid the price in 2022.

    JR: Well, first of all, the entire 2022 season could aptly be named: “Look! Here are all the woes of the Rams offensive line!”

    Second, the argument can be made that they extended the wrong players in Noteboom and Brian Allen, based on availability and injury history. But nobody could have predicted the compounded number of injuries within the group and in such rapid succession. Further, two players who can be long-term impact players include former undrafted free agents Jackson and Coleman Shelton (who played well in their snaps compared with the rest of the NFL’s starters). We don’t know what third-round pick Logan Bruss is capable of yet, though he projects positively and his rehab has gone well. They’ll continue to add/subtract/adjust here.

    Will McVay delegate play calling in 2023?

    JR: No. But when he talks about “delegation,” I don’t know that play calling is necessarily what he means. It’s more about design, idea sharing and problem solving. However, he’s been pretty reflective about what works and what habits (good or bad) he gets into as a play caller. This season will be telling of some of the personal and professional reverse-engineering he’s doing during these months.

    We finally have a high pick and a clear need to bring in an edge rusher to complement AD. Is this the year we invest in the D-line in the draft or is that either used in a trade for a proven player or spent on offense again as is usually the case in the McVay era?

    JR: Both. The Rams will be aggressive in exploring their options at pass rusher, inclusive of the draft and combinations of veterans and younger prolific talent either available via free agency or acquired via trade.

    Could you realistically see Baker Mayfield being back with the Rams next season? And if he is, do you believe the Rams still draft a QB? I remember you mentioning you think this is the draft they take a QB.

    JR: Baker Mayfield wants to be a starter, so really, it would be up to him and how his market shakes out. Backup quarterback is not a position the Rams will spend significant cap space on (though they all but shouted from the rooftops they need to upgrade their depth here), but yes, they could draft and develop a middle- or late-round quarterback.

    What is the safety position going to look like next season?

    JR:My best guess: Starters Fuller, Nick Scott (depending on his free-agency market). Starter Quentin Lake. Rotational safety/nickel/dime player Russ Yeast.

    Over the Cap places Scott’s future contract valuation at about $3.3 million per year.

    What’s the likelihood the Rams actually end up using their 2024 first-round pick wherever it ends up slotted?

    JR: Ha!

    Any idea what their plan is for Senior Bowl/Combine? I know they haven’t had scouts there the past few years. Plan to stick with that? 

    JR: Great question, and to provide a little bit of clarity on this point: The Rams don’t “prevent” their staff from going to the NFL Scouting Combine, Senior Bowl, or Shrine Bowl. Anybody who feels like they work better attending the events in-person versus receiving all of the film and data and meeting with players remotely can attend, and scouts especially do a lot of regional combines and even pro days. The scouts are also all on the road/in their areas doing deep work on prospects throughout the year. Higher-ranking executives and coaches (including Les Snead and McVay) prefer not to attend in person. For example, the Rams’ top coaches didn’t attend last year’s combine but several assistant coaches did, and of course, the most important part of the combine is the medical evaluation so the whole athletic training staff attends.

     

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    But then Stafford was a better fit for McV. Stafford walked into the room demanding respect with his veteran smarts and longevity, so it was more of a case of coach and veteran qb collaborating than an impatient coach handling a young qb.

     

    partially true.  i’m not saying i disagree with that.  but i think other things also played a part.

     

    mcvay i think had committed to a 3 wr approach at that point with gurley declining.  i don’t think it’s a coincidence that goff’s resurgence has coincided with a resurgence in the lions’ running game.

     

    i do think that mcvay could eventually be that patient head coach.  well.  at least a more patient version compared to his 30 year old self.  i think his perspective changes dramatically when he is say 50 years old compared to a couple years ago.  or at least it’ll have to or i don’t think he lasts.

     

    it’s kind of useless to argue because mcvay back then was obviously incapable of having the kind of  relationship with goff where goff could keep growing as a qb.  it could have just been personality.  it could have been the age difference or mcvay’s immaturity.   or maybe mcvay just needing to realize that deficiency in himself and having a qb coach.  maybe mcvay needs his right hand man.  like tony larussa had his dave duncan.  but that’s also part of growing as a leader.  cuz you hope mcvay wouldn’t make the same mistake at 50 years old that he did when he was 34.

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    Goff and McV were not a good “marriage.” Goff did well with the Rams when he had his own dedicated qb coach. That was 2017 (Greg Olson) and 2018 (LaFleur). (Greg Olson is also responsible for Derek Carr playing well in the years he did–Olson left the Raiders in 2021, and Carr played well for him). In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach. I think their relationship was based on McV’s impatience and the result was to weaken Goff’s confidence. What we saw in 2020 was Goff playing without confidence much of the time. In the best article on their divorce, a Rams coach is quoted as saying (anonymously) that McV knew how to tear Goff down but not how to build him up.

    I think what we’re seeing in Detroit now is Goff playing with confidence, in a system that is specifically built to his strengths (and with a top notch OL).

    I said all of this at the time of the trade btw but then I defended the trade. My take was, if the qb and the coach are not built for each other and the coach is winning, then, the qb will go. I don’t like the way they handled it (in fact they handled the entire trade very badly that way). But then Stafford was a better fit for McV. Stafford walked into the room demanding respect with his veteran smarts and longevity, so it was more of a case of coach and veteran qb collaborating than an impatient coach handling a young qb.

    In a different way than Martz, McV is a mixed bag. He has all sorts of strengths as a coach, but they come with some pronounced liabilities. He may change, but at this stage, McV needs veterans in key positions to win. He’s not a patient team builder. By way of contrast DV was that and in fact did it twice, with the Eagles and Rams. McV inherited a team loaded with players like Gurley and Donald and Goff and did not need to “rebuild.” 6 years later there are still some pre-McV players starting for the Rams, including Donald, Higbee, and Hav.

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    McVay has not shown the best people skills when handling personnel moves.

    Yeah I agree. Hate to see it too. And it’s not just how he handles partings. He is impatient as a coach, better with veterans than with players who are developing.

    that’s why those early to mid 1980’s Rams teams were so underrated…  Defense, special teams, OL and Dickerson carried, Kemp, Dieter, Dills….. that ain’t the case with 2022 .

    The OL is one of the biggest differences. In the 80s they had an OL that regularly had 2 to even 4 all pros. This OL is like old photos of civil war battlefields after the battle.

     

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    Old joke.

    It’s 3 AM. A woman paces angrily in her house waiting for her physicist husband to come home. Finally he does. As he walks through the door she glares and demands “where have you been!?” Sheepishly, the physicist husband tries to explain himself. He says, “well my colleagues and I went out just for a friendly drink. A group of women invited us to join them, so we did. We drank and had fun talking and it got a little flirty. I got swept up in the moment and one thing led to another. I ended up making out with one of the women we met.”

    His wife listens impatiently, arms crossed, furiously tapping her foot the whole time. When he finishes, she blurts out “Liar! LIAR! You were in the lab again weren’t you!

    #141329

    Topic: wolves

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    from quora
    by Steven Caddens: Former Supervisor at Red Cross Logistics
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Ok much of what you hear is ‘Hollywood’ fiction.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>I met a wolf many years ago as my dad was a keen wildlife photographer and became a researcher before becoming a cameraman. Often he’d be away for what seemed like years but around 9 months and little window to see us kids, on rare occasions he would sneak us out to the hide where they were filming a Wolf pack getting prepared for a hunt. My dad showed me the leaders, the stalkers, the chasers, the rear guard, and the pup sitters, every wolf knew its mission.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Later that evening a howling erupted, it was awesome it rattled my chest. They announced their presence and intent, they messed around biting, nibbling, licking, and rubbing to reinforce bonds. Suddenly I turned around and the biggest wolf I’ve ever seen appeared, out of nowhere. My dad said ‘Dont panic he’s a sentry, he’s just sniffing the air around us there’s one over there too’ and there was, hard to spot cause he was laying down and watching. I could hear this wolf breathing he was so close, he sniffed the air and flicked out his tongue like a snake tasting the air, he looked directly at me, it was scary but at the same time I was over awed by his presence, my dad said ‘He’s curious that’s all, let him smell you, go on he won’t hurt you'</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Now this beautiful animal could so easily have turned on me and although a gun was present he would have got to me before anyone could raise a weapon. Trust me this guy was awesome.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>But there was a definitive respect, he had no wish to attack us, he and his pack were used to my dad and his fellow researchers, I could actually see by the look in his eyes he was just curious.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Now of course I asked my dad about wolf attacks, he personally had only once come across a wolf that took a ‘dislike’ to him, and he said to me ‘The most important thing to understand is that wolves avoid humans at all costs, their trust is earned, and if ever you find yourself face to face with a wolf never, ever turn your back, do not under any circumstances run. Here’s why, you are the tresspasser, if you think they aren’t watching you’re wrong, they see you, smell you, much like big cats if you turn your back he knows you can no longer see him, if he doesn’t like you or trust you he’ll be upon you.’ basically if you cross paths with a wolf remember this…you cannot outrun him, do not run. Stand your ground and its scary but you have to, look him in the eyes and let him know you’re not taking your eyes off him, make a lot of noise. Don’t try the ..aahhh pretty wolf..cause he ain’t interested. He wants and needs to know you’re not a threat but if he attacks you…you’ll fight.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Wolves rarely attack humans, they’re intelligent, social animals and they know where there’s one there’s more. Wolves have a bad rep because of heresay and myth.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>The likelihood of being attacked by a wolf is as likely as me turning against all I’ve learned about these magnificent predators.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Watching intently. The pack.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Spotted prey. Now the planning stage..</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Every wolf knows their responsibility..Reinforcing bonds before the hunt.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>On the trail. Paws that act like snow shoes, silent, co ordinated, and out for blood.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Prey sighted. Stand guard till reinforcements arrive.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Wary. No-wolf wants to get injured, plan, strategize, make the kill. All over.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Did you know that when wolves are howling together no two wolves howl the same note. They harmonise giving the illusion that there are more of them than there actually are.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>He doesn’t want to hurt you. But come for him and his pack? You’re in trouble.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>The female in this picture looks as though she is cowering beneath her mate, dead wrong. What she is actually doing is protecting his throat from the aggressor who cannot attack either wolf without serious injury. He goes for the males face the female will grab his throat, he goes for the female the male will grab his head. A mated wolf pair is formidable. Wolves mate for life.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>There is no such thing as the ‘alpha’ male in wild wolf society, only captive bred packs have a hierarchy, wild packs share all responsibilities, parents raise, teach, and care for their pups until they can go out on their own, there are no fights in wild packs for dominance, no single wolf is in charge therefore fights and challenges are usually situational. Brothers fight each other, sisters fight each other, brothers fight sisters…so what’s new! Wild wolf packs operate like human families, the kids do as they’re told.😊</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Wolf society is so much like our own, but one overriding difference separates us, wolves dont hunt for sport.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>You’d better believe it. 😊</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>EDIT: The response to this post has been brilliant and I hope to get around to answering your comments. Thank you. Keep loving those wolves. As a way of a thanks I’d like to introduce you to the very special Coastal wolf.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>On the coast of British Columbia, along the coastline of Alaska’s south east, and the Islands of the Alexander Archipelago live small populations of a grey wolf that survives mostly on seafood. Salmon, clams, seals, fish eggs.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>They have evolved away from being meat eaters to becoming sea food eaters and some researchers go as far as to classify them as ‘Marine mammals’ or ‘Sea Wolves’ and here’s why; They are excellent swimmers and are known to swim for miles between the mainland and the Islands, they ‘Island hop’ along the coast in open seas and are as much at home in the water as on land.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>They are genetically distinct from their inland grey wolf family, a little smaller and their fur contains red and brown accents rather than the black accents of the grey.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Fortunately for these guys there are few roads into their habitat, which also makes finding and photographing them incredibly difficult. There are tours for those that specialise in research, observation and photography, however many that venture will tell you that a week in this habitat you are considered lucky to find one shot of an encounter with these shy, and magnificent coastal wolves.</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Hungry pups on the coast howling together.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>It’s the dedication of chaps like wildlife photographer and very patient chap Jorn Vangoidtsenhoven….</p>

    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>that give us an insight into the lives of these stunning animals.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>Photo’s courtesey of friend Jorn Vangoidtsenhoven.</p>
    <p class=”q-text qu-display–block qu-wordBreak–break-word qu-textAlign–start”>RE:EDIT…Sorry folks but I hate having to do this re editing…So some have mentioned in comments that we shouldn’t think of these predators as fluffy, won’t harm you, cuddly dogs…I think that everyone here is intelligent enough to know these are still wild animals, as I said wolf society is a close knit family affair, any outsider is going to be scrutinised. Wolf attacks do happen, they are extremely rare. Certainly rarer than attack by your neighbour. Wolves are not your cuddly German Shepherd or Husky, but two words folks..Mutual Respect.</p>

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    Why the Rams collapsed in brutal, ‘humbling’ season opener to Bills: The Pile

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/3579415/2022/09/09/rams-season-opener-loss-bills/?source=emp_shared_article

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. — There’s a first time for everything. For head coach Sean McVay and the Rams, there were a lot of “firsts” on Thursday night, in a brutal 31-10 loss to a bright-and-shiny Buffalo Bills team. Most of them weren’t good.

    It was the first time McVay has lost a season opener, for example. The seven sacks quarterback Matthew Stafford took marked the first time a McVay-led team allowed that high a number in a single game — and the Bills had six of them by the start of the fourth quarter.

    “When you look at the lot of the ways this game unfolded, I feel a huge sense of responsibility to this team,” said McVay. “We weren’t ready to go. I take a lot of pride in that, that’s on me. I gotta do better. … This was a humbling experience, but we’re gonna stay connected.”

    Cornerback Jalen Ramsey put it succinctly: “We got our ass beat, straight-up.”

    Stafford threw three interceptions to his one touchdown (to Cooper Kupp, who had a slick toe-tap-and-drag in the back corner of the end zone to score, back when the Rams were actually in the game). He and tight end Tyler Higbee miscommunicated on a route for one of the interceptions, Stafford threw a high ball to Kupp that he tipped and then was picked on another and he had a ball batted and intercepted by defensive lineman Boogie Basham.

    The Rams took the ball away four times themselves — they intercepted Bills quarterback Josh Allen twice, both heads-up plays by outside linebacker Terrell Lewis and cornerback Troy Hill (Hill cranked down on a route he read from depth and jumped the pass). They also recovered two fumbles. But on the other side, their offensive drives were largely wasted.

    “I thought our defense played great in the first half,” said Stafford, “they give us turnovers like that, we gotta do something better with the football, capitalize with it, get more points out of those.”

    Further, the Bills’ effectiveness on third down and after explosive plays were daggers. Buffalo was a whopping 9 of 10 on third down attempts; two of their touchdowns came on third down, one third-down play featured a gnarly stiff-arm from a running Allen to convert the play and on another, the Rams were their own demise via a penalty (too many men on the field, something that should never happen with that many veteran players).

    “That was tough,” said McVay of the substitution error. “Really, I thought (the Bills’) execution was pretty good (on third down). We were tight, they were tight-window throws and catches and Josh was able to create a little bit with his legs. You give credit to those guys, that’s gonna be a really, really good football team.”

    McVay reiterated that the game was a dose of humility, and a lesson from which he’ll learn.

    “I’m not gonna run away from the mistakes I made tonight,” he said. “We’re gonna fix this. That’s all we know how to do.”

    But there was a lot more to the Rams’ loss than that, and some important context to note, too. The Rams, for the first time in the McVay era, are 0-1. Welcome (back) to The Pile, and back to the locker room — where players were composed and insightful despite the loss. Let’s start poking around.

    Rushing four a killer

    Stafford was statistically the best quarterback in the NFL in 2021 when blitzed. The problem is, the Bills successfully only rushed four players nearly the entire game.

    They sacked Stafford seven times (former Ram Von Miller had two), hit him 15 times and each member of the Bills’ front averaged less than four yards of distance from him throughout the entire game, when the NFL average is 4.53 yards (per NextGen Stats). When Stafford has seen successful pressure with just four players, meaning more are dropped into coverage, his completion percentage drops from about 74 percent (averaging throws from under center and shotgun), to about 64 percent, per TruMedia, and his EPA/play similarly plummets.

    “Oh, yeah, they didn’t rush five really at all tonight,” McVay said. “For them to be able to do that, it’s a real credit to them.”

    Guard David Edwards told The Athletic’s Tim Graham that the Rams’ offensive line “killed themselves with mistakes”.

    “I don’t feel like we ever got into a rhythm offensively, just mistakes up front that really cost us drives,” he said. “We’d start moving the ball and then have a false start or a sack, just not clean football. They did a great job of putting us in bad spots, but they also out-executed us, plain and simple.”

    Right tackle Rob Havenstein agreed with Edwards’ assessment.

    “No one’s happy right now. Every guy on the offensive line right now is pointing the finger at himself. This one hurts. There’s no silver lining in this. It’s about correcting the things that need to be corrected with urgency — never panic,” Havenstein said to Graham. “Panic never wins in the NFL. That’s not how our line’s going to handle it. We’re going to keep this thing moving.”

    Stafford, who spent the offseason managing an ongoing elbow issue, stayed in the entire game. McVay cited his “toughness” after the game under heavy, and frequent duress.

    “He’s a tough-minded guy, standing in there, no flinch, getting hit a lot and didn’t have a whole lot of time,” said McVay. “But I love Matthew Stafford. There were a couple of unfortunate balls that get tipped up … I know he’s going to continue to compete, love Matthew and we’re gonna keep riding.”

    Silent night

    First McVay, then Stafford, mentioned that the Rams had to go to their “silent count” (the cadence the quarterback and offense revert to when there is excessive crowd noise). The Rams were the home team Thursday.

    “We had prepared for it, we prepared to be on the silent count at home again,” said Stafford, “but it wasn’t something that we haven’t done before.”

    McVay said that the Bills’ front seven jumped the timing of their silent count well.

    “No, that does not help us,” Kupp said. “Once you go to a silent count, you lose the advantage offensively to be able to get off the ball. So, ideally, you don’t want to be doing silent.”

    Where were Allen Robinson and Cam Akers?

    Allen Robinson, the Rams’ big-name receiver who seriously impressed in training camp after joining the team in March, didn’t see much action. Robinson’s first target of the game was on a long third down in the second quarter after Stafford took a sack. The play picked up 12 yards, but was short of the conversion. Kupp and a pile of Rams players (featuring guard Coleman Shelton) pushed forward on a catch-and-run for the first down that kept the drive alive. Allen finished the game with just two targets and the one catch.

    It wasn’t completely clear, aside from the frequent duress Stafford faced and the coverages he saw, why Robinson wasn’t more involved.

    “I think they played, (estimating), maybe two snaps of man? It’s a lot of zone,” Stafford said, “they clouded to the boundary quite a bit, Allen saw a lot of Cover 2 over there. I can still do a better job of getting him the ball in some instances.”

    It was, however, interesting to see the Rams work the expected committee of receivers into the rotation in absence of No. 3 receiver Van Jefferson, who was inactive as he continues to rehab from knee surgery. Second-year receiver Ben Skowronek got the start and had four catches for 25 yards. The Rams also tested out second-year receiver Tutu Atwell on a couple of sweeps as a decoy player, but when Stafford hit him in the flat, Atwell dropped the pass after taking heavy contact from a defender. Return specialist Brandon Powell actually took a handoff and had a 10-yard catch, and even tight end Brycen Hopkins, who had a phenomenal training camp, seemed to struggle at times. Running back Darrell Henderson (five catches for 26 yards) could have gotten a first down on a catch-and-run but was stuffed by a player Hopkins likely should have blocked.

    With Kupp, Higbee and Skowronek in the stack as blockers, the Rams in theory should have been able to run the ball better than they did. Henderson, who started and got the lead share of reps, had a couple of really nice runs (including a physical 18-yard long that set up Kupp’s touchdown). But he finished the game with just 47 yards on 13 carries. Meanwhile, running back Cam Akers had just three carries and didn’t come in until the second quarter.

    McVay said that the team not rotating in Akers, who only had three carries and didn’t even get a snap until well into the second quarter, was because they “didn’t get in much of a rhythm tonight”, and added that he’d have liked to get Robinson more involved.

    ‘Third downs killed us’

    The Bills’ 90 percent conversion rate on third down was a key issue for the Rams. Buffalo’s first third down, a third-and-1, was a touchdown that happened when multiple Rams defenders bit hard on a run-fake by Allen, who then had Gabe Davis wide open in the end zone. Allen ran in a second touchdown off a third down in the fourth quarter, but the Rams’ problem was further illustrated by the play that set it up: a 47-yard pass to Davis that came on third-and-7.

    “We didn’t do a good enough job on third downs, felt like third downs killed us,” said inside linebacker Bobby Wagner (he finished the game with a sack and seven tackles).

    “We just, our eyes have to be right. We have to play better. I think it’s a group thing, it’s not just one person … I think those plays (specifically the two third-down touchdowns and the conversion-after-penalty) are plays that we can easily watch film on and get better at. …

    “Anytime you let a team be 90 percent on third down, no matter how many turnovers you get, you’re not gonna win the game.”

    Something good out of something bad

    It was striking to me how the Bills’ offensive game plan was the combination of the Rams’ most frustrating games throughout 2021: The Bills could go ball-control, meaning they were perfectly happy and patient taking little pieces out of the field against the Rams’ zone, and then chose their specific spots for their game-altering explosive plays via a quarterback who could make these happen not just with his storied arm, but also his legs.

    Allen didn’t throw the ball past 20 yards (without the yards-after-catch from a receiver) until late in the second half of the game. The 47-yard throw (the aforementioned third-down play) set up a touchdown. Allen also threw a 53-yard touchdown and his first touchdown technically counts as an “explosive”, meaning a pass play of 20-plus yards, even though the last 10 yards or so were picked up by Davis after the catch.

    The Rams mostly play zone, coming down from depth as a part of their two-high shell first installed in 2020. That “shell” is intended to put a roof on an offense they can’t crack with explosive air-yards plays, which are statistically far likelier to set up points than several shorter passes eventually equating the same amount of yards. Things get complicated with Allen, a player who can throw on the run and even while getting hit and reach his target.

    “They were really attacking our little zones, like our soft spots in our zones,” Ramsey said. “Obviously we’ve gotta watch the film, but I’m sure we all would’ve liked to play man a little bit more. I feel like we kind of had a mentality like, ‘bend, don’t break’ a lot, because they were driving the ball but they weren’t scoring, like, we were getting turnovers, interceptions, whatever it was.”

    Then, Ramsey said what I think was the most illuminating piece of this matchup: “We felt like they weren’t going to be patient enough to do that the whole game, just take those five yards, three yards, four yards, right? But they were, for the most part,” he said, “(and) then they had … two or three explosives that ended up turning into touchdowns, and that was like, the difference. They won by three touchdowns.”

    As I’ve written about for years, patiently taking little pieces out of this defense’s soft places (willing to die a “death by 10,000 paper-cuts”, as Miami coach and former 49ers coordinator Mike McDaniel used to say), is the way to beat it. As Ramsey noted, the ethos of this defense is to out-patience the other, to bet the other side will make a mistake before they do. Thursday’s first half illustrated that before the Bills started creating explosives and picking effective spots for big plays. Speaking of the 49ers, whose concepts seemed to show up in the Bills’ game plan a few times Thursday night, what happens when a team such as Buffalo combines that paper-cut patience with a quarterback who has legs like Allen and can actually make any throw?

    “Once he starts scrambling, you gotta try to find somebody and, like, latch on to ’em. It is even tougher, actually, when you’re in zone,” said Ramsey. “When you do play a lot of zone, when you do play a lot of zones. Once you’re in your zone, then he starts scrambling, you gotta go find somebody to attach to, like the nearest person in your zone. It’s extremely tough, and he did that a couple times.”

    The combination is a reality check for the Rams, because others will try to play them this way. They may not be able to do it like this, because they don’t have Allen.

    So, then, it has to be a positive in all of the muck to have seen Wagner’s own in-game adjustments on a specific 49ers-inspired play: The toss runs. The Bills ran some toss plays early in the game, and you could almost see Wagner’s mind whirring in real time. A run-stop in the second half (perhaps one of his best of the evening) happened because he perfectly diagnosed the toss concept, recalled it from his study of 49ers tape and reacted. The 49ers, a clear influence on how teams will try to beat Los Angeles, used that concept to attack the Rams’ inside linebackers with a lot of success in 2021. Wagner wasn’t fooled twice.

    Bottom of The Pile

    • Receiver Odell Beckham Jr. was present on the Rams’ sideline pregame. While I don’t normally comment on clothing (that’s uniform enthusiast and podcast co-host Rich Hammond’s job), Beckham is a very intentional person and wore the non-football version of Thursday night’s Rams uniform: Yellow pants, a simple white T-shirt and a blue hat.

    Beckham helped present the Lombardi Trophy to the Watts Rams, a local group of youth football players, ahead of the Super Bowl banner ceremony … standing next to owner Stan Kroenke and general manager Les Snead as he did so.

    • No. 3 running back Kyren Williams injured his ankle and was listed as “questionable” to return, and his updated status wasn’t announced in the press box (presumably the injury happened on special teams, because Williams didn’t get a shot at playing running back). McVay next speaks to media Friday afternoon, and will likely have a status update at that time.

    • A small positive: Kicker Matt Gay hit a 57-yard field goal with enough room behind it to be a 68-yarder, according to NBC’s kick measurement analysis. On the other hand, it wasn’t totally clear why Powell took out kickoffs nearly every time, including one that was stuffed at about the 10-yard line and set up poor field position.

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    Best of Sean McVay’s “Coach Cam” appearance during Rams-Chargers preseason broadcast

    Stu Jackson

    https://www.therams.com/news/best-of-sean-mcvay-s-coach-cam-appearance-rams-chargers-preseason-broadcast

    INGLEWOOD, Calif. – For the first time since 2019, Rams head coach Sean McVay joined TV affiliate ABC7’s broadcast for live insight and discussion on the game unfolding before him.

    Here are some of the highlights from that “Coach Cam” appearance during the Rams-Chargers preseason game Saturday night. The full video is available at the bottom of the article, as well.

    Being a “developmental staff”

    Offensive coordinator Liam Coen, pass game coordinator/secondary coach Chris Shula and run game coordinator/defensive line coach Eric Henderson all got the opportunity to call plays during Saturday night’s preseason game.

    “Liam’s been doing an excellent job, and then Chris Shula did a really good job with the operation in the first half,” McVay told the ABC7 broadcast team of Andrew Siciliano, Mina Kimes and Andrew Whitworth midway through the third quarter.

    McVay said “it’s great” to be able to hand over those responsibilities to assistants in the preseason, and that those are important developmental opportunities for coaches. He also credited defensive coordinator Raheem Morris for empowering his coordinators on that side of the ball.

    “We try to be a developmental staff,” McVay said.

    Whitworth chimed in, adding that Morris told him pregame: “We develop players, why wouldn’t we develop coaches?”

    Diagnosing the action in realtime

    With the Rams defense facing a 3rd-and-short situation, Siciliano asks McVay what the playcall is in that moment.

    “I would think another situation to be able to play sticky here,” McVay said. “Coming out in a 3-by-1, we’re holding a little bit, looks like we’re in a zone. We’re probably in our three-deep rotation coming down. Good job by (cornerback) T.J. Carter flashing in that window, and God, I cannot believe he got across the four (yards), but it looks like he’s short.”

    More than just an evaluator of offensive line play and technique

    At one point in the interview, Whitworth praises wide receiver Lance McCutcheon for McCutcheon’s patience on his route in the back of the endzone that led to the 2-point conversion.

    “You said it Whit, he was nice and patient at the top,” McVay said. “You guys just think Big Whit’s just an exquisite left tackle his whole career, he’s got an appreciation for the All-22, too.”

    McVay had (perhaps jokingly) mentioned this week that he would be recording Saturday night’s broadcast to evaluate Whitworth’s performance after the game when he got home. When asked about that, he offered more praise for Whitworth.

    “I have no doubt that this is a very smooth transition,” McVay said. “He’s always worked at whatever he does. He’s one of those guys that, you almost get pissed off because he’s just good at everything, whatever he decides to put his mind to. I have no doubt that my guy has been outstanding, and I’m sure you guys would agree he’s a great partner to have up in the booth with you guys.”

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    Welcome to the Sean McVay Moment: Inside the pressures that brought him to the pinnacle and why satisfaction is still so hard to come by

    Seth Wickersham

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34363420/welcome-sean-mcvay-moment-pressures-brought-pinnacle-why-satisfaction-hard-come-by

    SEARCHING FOR A vodka soda, Sean McVay walks me through the expansive refurbished kitchen of his new 9,000-square-foot house in a double-security-gated Hidden Hills community that also is home to Drake, Miley Cyrus, the Jenners and Kardashians just up the 101 Freeway from Los Angeles. It’s a May afternoon, in the spring after he got everything he ever wanted. He and his soon-to-be wife, Veronika Khomyn, have just moved in. Boxes are scattered. Shelves and walls and rooms are vast and mostly empty; a soft echo accompanies conversation. He just got home from work and wants to unwind. Where the vodka sodas are stored, he’s unsure. He walks to a built-in cabinet and presses the door. It doesn’t open. He presses it again. Nope. He moves to another. It opens, but it’s empty.

    “Where …?” he asks.

    He wheels into a pantry area and scans a shelf. Success. He then heads to the backyard, which has an infinity pool and a TV tuned to an NBA game. It’s golden hour, the air cool but the ground warm. To the side of the patio is his home office. A Lombardi trophy is on one of the desks. At 36, McVay is the youngest head coach ever to win one. In the coming months he’ll receive a proclamation of recognition from his hometown city council in Atlanta, and his alma mater, Miami University in Ohio, will announce that it’s going to build a statue of him.

    He stares at the scenery and takes a pull off his drink.

    Only recently has McVay been able to catch his breath after the most fun and stressful months of his life. There was, of course, the Super Bowl win over the Bengals. Then an opportunity to leave coaching for the booth, if he so desired. Wedding planning, after delays due to the pandemic. The dull panic that the Rams are behind the rest of the league, after the long playoff run in the longest season in NFL history. And then the texts: Veronika is Ukrainian and still has family outside of Lviv, an initial and repeated target. Both of them check their phones constantly during the night. Half of Veronika’s family won’t be able to attend the wedding at the Beverly Hills Hotel, including her dad. It’s been surreal for McVay to reach the pinnacle of his profession, watch his wealth exponentially increase, move from one beautiful home into another, all set against the backdrop of war. A lot of feelings are in the air, some that McVay can articulate and some that he can’t, but today as he stares at the new house, he’s reflective.

    “Still can’t believe we live here,” he says.

    McVay is a young man but a veteran coach, with hair always gelled, forearms always swollen, scruff always at two-day growth — he shaved himself clean once and “it scared Veronika,” he jokes — and eyes that default to a sort of worried look. He leans back into his white patio couch, trying to enjoy the life he’s built through a game that he bent to his will — and that he knows might destroy him. He still has unfinished work from today, because there’s always unfinished work — passing-game film to break down, which he’ll do either tonight or in the morning, depending on how the evening goes.

    “Dropback install,” he says. “Got 208 clips to go through.”

    THE MORNING AFTER he won Super Bowl LVI, McVay woke up and looked in the mirror. Running on fumes and semi-hungover, he saw his career, and his life, with weird clarity, as if he had finally understood something essential about himself. He had imagined and considered what it would feel like to join the exclusive list of coaches with at least one ring. After losing Super Bowl LIII to New England in 2019, he had sat with Veronika in a near-catatonic state. “I can’t believe it,” he kept saying, mostly to himself. He told his family not to worry; they worried anyway. The game itself was a blur, a schooling by Bill Belichick so thorough and traumatic that to this day, McVay hasn’t watched it in full. He felt he coached “like an amateur … so in over my head,” and he swore that it would never happen again.

    It didn’t. But McVay’s first glimpse of himself after L.A.’s 23-20 win over the Bengals was odd. He didn’t feel like a better coach, aside from having accumulated the knowledge of having coached another game, another book in a growing library. He didn’t feel like the living truth of his outstanding résumé: that he, in only five years — without a day under .500; with playoff wins over Pete Carroll, Bruce Arians and Sean Payton; with his own football tree, four head coaches strong — has a chance to be one of the greats, maybe the greatest ever.

    No, like Vince Lombardi and Belichick on mornings after some of their championships, McVay felt grateful and humble, reduced at the moment when his presence to the world was bigger than ever, overwhelmed with the reality that his life would change and benefit from events beyond his control. He knew that if not for defensive coordinator Raheem Morris’ counsel during dark times in the winless month of November, if not for the brilliance of Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford and Cooper Kupp in high-leverage moments, if not for overcoming his own mistakes, none of this would have happened.

    Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford, left, and McVay celebrate after the Rams defeated the Cincinnati Bengals in Super Bowl LVI. AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez
    Months after that morning, as he sits at a table and describes it, McVay is certain of one thing: If they had lost to the Bengals, he definitely wouldn’t have this new house. Would Amazon have courted a two-time Super Bowl loser, offering a booth job for $20 million a year, after word on the street was that he had finally burned himself out coaching? McVay isn’t convinced. Either way, he wasn’t ready to leave his job, and he received a raise.

    Otherwise, he’d still be in his previous home, high in Encino Hills with a view of San Fernando Valley, a place he loved but that both he and Veronika had outgrown — or, rather, his fame had outgrown. It was in a dense neighborhood. People would buzz, asking for autographs or money. A burglar had once stolen more than $100,000 of stuff, and McVay had to build a fence and hire security. This feels like more of an adult house. McVay wanted to bring the basketball hoop from the pool to the new place, but it felt childish. “Gotta leave it,” Veronika told him.

    And now, all that’s left is the rest of his life. McVay has always tried, with varying success, to think beyond the next game. He can imagine kids running around his backyard one day, a happy family. He can hear it. But then he wonders: Who will he be when that day arrives? Will he be retired, with a cushy booth gig, fully engaged with his family — or will he still be a coach, secretly thinking about 208 dropback install clips or a hundred other tasks, present in body if present at all?

    He isn’t the first to suffer from the game’s “mental mind f—” that “I can’t distance myself from,” as he puts it. But McVay is trying to understand what success is, or happiness is, or how a finish line looks, if it even exists. His goal was to be the youngest head coach to win a Super Bowl. But did he “ever have a goal of winning the most Super Bowls of a head coach in NFL history, or winning the most games?” he says. “No. Now, what that means, I have no idea.”

    The problem is, he knows.

    “I’ll be sitting here when I’m 60,” he says during another quiet moment, with deep resignation. “And we’ll be saying, how the f— are you still coaching?”

    I SPENT MANY days with McVay this offseason, at his home and at work, watching a man at odds with himself. He wanted to process out loud, knowing that many of his predecessors in this profession, his heroes, guys he studies and steals from and tries to match, extreme personalities and legends, are like him, happiest when unhappy. Since the Super Bowl, McVay has been consumed by trying to understand the job and himself, and what it means for his life. He wants to understand his own wiring, sometimes feeling powerless over it — feeling “intrinsically motivated to the point” that he’s “sick,” he says one morning.

    “It’s not a choice,” he says. “I don’t make a choice to be driven.”

    When I explain all of this on a May evening over dinner in the Atlanta suburbs with his parents, Cindy and Tim, they laugh. Welcome to their world raising him. As a 3-year-old, Sean went to a roller-skating party. He had never skated, but he took off on the rink, leaving the rest of the kids behind, until he crashed into the boards and looked back to see whether the group was gaining on him, before taking off again.

    “We looked at each other like, ‘Oh my god,'” Tim says, smiling. “What have we created?”

    But Sean’s ambition is more than just something he’s carried with him since he was a boy. It’s a force without a clear destination, both toxic and enriching, rooted in trying to be great at a coin flip of a game and addicted to the high of the feeling of improvement, even if — especially if — it’s invisible to the outside world. As a kid, he was exposed to football’s blessings and costs, and he internalized not the hokey sanitized version of the game but what it truly takes to author a legend. Some of Sean’s earliest memories are of attending San Francisco 49ers walk-throughs with his grandfather — former executive and five-time champion John McVay — and speaking with Steve Young and Jerry Rice. But Sean also watched his own father steer away from that life, aware of its dangers.

    Tim played football at Indiana, and considered going into coaching. But he knew what it took to be successful, growing up with a loving father but one who was always at the office, working for the legendary Bill Walsh, who revolutionized the game at the expense of not only his own happiness and sanity but also those around him. Tim chose television instead. “He wanted to be able to raise his family,” Cindy says. “To be able to be around his family.”

    Sean knew as a young adult that he would pursue a career in sports. But when he told people he wanted to coach, his parents and some friends saw all of the warning signs, with his compulsive personality coupled with a spectacularly unhealthy profession. Did he want to be his grandfather or his father? He decided on both — with his own belief that someday, however noble and naive, he might find a way to make life in pro football palatable.

    A string of leg injuries in college at Miami University ended Sean’s life as a receiver, accelerating his coaching career. He landed an entry-level gig at Jon Gruden’s Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2008. He left college before classes ended, finishing remotely. Cindy went with him to Tampa to help him find a place to live. He had to learn the basics and had a long way to go. The first time Sean stood in front of the staff to draw the O’s for an offensive play, Gruden cut him off. “Your circles are the s—tiest f—ing circles I’ve ever seen in my life.”

    Still, McVay was hooked on coaching. In 2010, he joined Mike Shanahan’s staff in Washington, starting as a quality control coach before moving to tight ends coach for Kyle Shanahan, who was offensive coordinator. From Mike, McVay learned how to set a vision for an entire football operation, with no detail too small. From Kyle, he learned how to reimagine offense, exploiting holes in the defense that others couldn’t see. When that staff was fired and McVay stayed on with new head coach Jay Gruden as offensive coordinator, he learned how a leader can provide not only opportunities — McVay was only 27 years old — but also protection. Washington went 4-12 that year, and Gruden publicly took the blame for the poor offense, shielding McVay. If McVay had been blamed, his entire reputation would have been altered. The rising star would have been tagged as another overmatched legacy hire.

    The next season, when the offense improved, Gruden credited McVay’s design and execution. Buzz ensued. McVay’s rise had been fast, but he was proud that even with family connections, he hadn’t skipped any steps, from grunt work to position coach to coordinator. He felt like he had willed and whittled 20 years of work into 10, and it set him up for head coach interviews in January 2017 at age 30. After the Rams meeting, McVay called his parents, at 2:30 a.m. in Atlanta.

    “It went really good,” Sean said. “I’m going to get this job.”

    “Are you ready?” Cindy asked.

    “I’ve been ready my whole life,” he replied.

    McVay, sitting for portraits in his new home in L.A. Shayan Asgharnia for ESPN
    THIS PAST JANUARY, on the day after the regular season ended, when franchises jettison failing coaching regimes, Veronika asked Sean, “What would you do if you were on one of those teams that wasn’t winning and you might get fired?”

    “Well, that just wouldn’t f—ing happen,” he replied. “Why would you ever think that way?”

    He knew it sounded cocky, as if he were somehow immune to the fate of all coaches, even elite ones. But underneath it was a stark fear, not of being fired — he knows that it’s part of his chosen life — but of the losing that would precede it. Before the Super Bowl, McVay found a deeper admiration for Bengals coach Zac Taylor, his buddy and former quarterbacks coach. Taylor stomached six total wins his first two seasons before guiding the Bengals to the final game. “I’ve never really had to lead in circumstances that were real adversary,” McVay says now.

    McVay has only won, just enough to keep him sane. In his first year, the Rams — an organization that had gone 14 years without a winning season and was slow to appeal to fans in a new market — went 11-5, led the league in scoring and hosted a playoff game. But McVay was essentially a glorified offensive coordinator rather than a complete head coach, calling plays, trying to establish a culture and not in the weeds on defense or special teams.

    In college, McVay had interned at KTVU-San Francisco, where his dad was the general manager. He watched how Tim led an organization, how he knew the names of every staffer, something he learned from John, who learned it from Walsh. Tim “showed me a path, whether I realized it or not, of being able to lead in a way that’s authentic to my personality,” Sean says now.

    He tried to apply it to his new job. Even if he excelled with his eye for creating space and confusion on offense — and even if he was “a phenomenal leader” who took “extreme ownership and accountability,” says Green Bay head coach Matt LaFleur, at the time the Rams’ offensive coordinator — it was still brutal at times. Rams executives were stunned at how McVay, after being jovial all offseason, seemed to switch personalities as soon as the games began. If a staffer or executive stopped by his office, McVay sometimes said, “What the f— do you want?” But on the spectrum of raging head coaches, McVay was still on the generally decent end, and he’d usually later apologize.

    And to think: “Ignorance was bliss,” McVay ‘says. If he truly knew all of the pains of the job … the time management, contract disputes with coaches and players, staff nitpicking and arguing with him on every decision, the way McVay himself used to do with Jay Gruden … he might not have survived. During one practice, there was a disagreement between offensive line coach Aaron Kromer and LaFleur. McVay entered the fray, weighed in, backed Kromer and went about practice, not thinking much of it.

    Later that day, LaFleur entered his office, livid that McVay had sided with Kromer. “You showed me up in front of the players,” LaFleur said. “With all due respect, you should just fire my ass right now.”

    McVay felt his blood pressure rise. The Rams were playoff-bound — and LaFleur, one of his best friends, was complaining about this?

    “You know what?” McVay replied. “I f—ing hate this job. I’m f—ing quitting. F— this s—. I hate myself. I hate that I’m treating you like this …”

    “No!” LaFleur said. “You can’t do that!”

    McVay hugs his father Tim McVay and mother Cindy McVay during pregame at Super Bowl LIII against the New England Patriots. Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images
    What LaFleur felt was a ninja management psychology move by McVay — “He flipped the switch on me,” he says now with a laugh — was actually rooted in desperation. McVay was irritable and overwhelmed, and hated that he was irritable and overwhelmed. The Rams reached the Super Bowl the next year and lost, and his ego and insecurity grew, widening his mood swings. He had always gotten good press: He was successful, and enjoyed hanging out with reporters, mostly national ones, trading gossip and inside stories. But he admits now that he had gotten “reliant” on all the praise.

    “I’m at my best when it’s not about Sean,” McVay says. “And it’s been about me more than I probably ever would like to admit.” The Super Bowl loss had fundamentally altered the narrative around McVay, from boy wonder to another lovely tombstone in Belichick’s graveyard. He spoke to Brad Stevens, Steve Kerr and Andy Reid after the loss, learning a way forward. And McVay entered the 2019 season hellbent on proving that he could take the final step as a coach. If he came off as an a–hole in the building — if he was an a–hole — so be it.

    “I lost my humanity a little bit,” he says. “I let the frustration of the expectations be more about me than I’d ever want anyone to know.”

    The Rams went 9-7. It was McVay’s worst season. “So miserable,” he says. He let it carry over into 2020, when the Rams went 10-6. McVay was trying to grow into a total head coach. McVay won, but he began to lose faith in the quarterback on whom he had once bet his career, Jared Goff. As Goff struggled, McVay coached him harder. It backfired, destroying the quarterback’s confidence, about which McVay still feels guilty. He felt his intentions were right but the execution was wrong, and he retreated inward, trying to fight his internal storm alone. He worked more from home, not only due to COVID-19 protocols, not only due to the efficiency of it, where nobody could stop by, but also because he felt it was how he could best get his head right — all while feeling on the verge of a breakdown. “It was just that constant torment hanging right here,” McVay says, touching his stomach. “Like you have a f—ing problem and you’ve got to fix it, but you don’t know how to f—ing fix it. Nobody puts more pressure on themselves than I do of me, but I think a lot of that pressure is a result of when I lose sight of what matters. If I had listened to the advice I give our players all the time, I would eliminate a lot of my own internal struggles.”

    After losses, Veronika would drive Sean and his parents home, his mood so dark it became atmospheric. “Worrisome for a parent,” Cindy says. Veronika would mostly be silent. “I never know how he’s going to be, because sometimes he’s upset after a win,” she says. “He likes us to be around but not ask too many questions.” Cindy would ask them anyway, diving into the game’s critical plays. Tim would try to offer perspective — that the Rams were winning, on their way to the playoffs again …

    “I don’t want to f—ing hear it right now, Dad. I don’t want to hear any pep talks.”

    McVay would eventually calm down. “I’m so glad you’re here,” he’d tell his family. They’d share a few drinks before hitting the sack. Still, Tim knew his son well and felt that Sean was losing his way. Then, sometime in the middle of the night, the McVays would hear Sean tiptoeing to his home office, too sick to sleep.

    Sean McVay and wife Veronika Khomyn. Shayan Asgharnia for ESPN
    “WHO THE F— wakes up at 3:45 in the morning on a Tuesday in the offseason?” McVay says in his Rams office in Thousand Oaks. It’s dark and quiet. He has a cup of instant coffee, two bottled waters and two flavored seltzers. On the wall behind him is a sign that says URGENT ENJOYMENT.

    “Cheesy as hell,” he says. “But a reminder for myself.”

    A lot of coaches are up this early on a Tuesday in the offseason, of course. For sure the best ones, as if hours logged can force a fumble to bounce a certain way — or maybe reduce fumbles altogether. No matter how many conversations league executives have at hotel bars about the burnout rate of coaches, of why the stress and demands and the unsustainable nature of the job has likely led to the trend of younger hires, and no matter how many head coaches pledge to change this destructive way of life, after so many divorces, unhappy marriages and children essentially raised by a single parent, it remains irrevocably broken. Diminishing returns are acknowledged but aren’t an excuse. America doesn’t care. The game demands what it demands. McVay knows no other way, an obsessive grinder who studied obsessive grinders. He’s at heart a creative, the game a creative challenge.

    Possibilities are endless, and he believes that he can find the answers, after all his dedication and curiosity, after all the coaching books and documentaries and podcasts and conversations and thought over the years. McVay also needs to believe. Coaches can’t control the games they’re paid to control, so the default is to try to control everything else, sociopathic neuroses layered upon relentless anxiety, driving themselves and everyone around them crazy. It would be hilarious if McVay didn’t have one life to live. Then on game day, he and other coaches preside over a series of mostly random events that profoundly impact their families and happiness. No wonder, as McVay puts it, “we’re all f—ed up.”

    Sleep has always been a struggle for McVay, and his heroes have never needed much of it. He witnessed Gruden arriving at 3:30 a.m. He watched as Mike and Kyle Shanahan spent long days over months reinventing offense to utilize Robert Griffin III, then long days over a week to switch to a completely different style for Kirk Cousins. He’s gotten beers with Belichick, and is floored by his staggering football knowledge attained by singular devotion and ethic. The templates from those men reinforce McVay’s own cadences and obsession and “competitive stamina,” he says. The more he learns about football, the more he has to learn.

    McVay’s lack of sleep is one of the main topics of discussion with his father, who not only is worried about his son but also believes that he will make better decisions if fully rested. “It’s not a badge of courage for you to get 3-4 hours,” Tim once told Sean. “For you to be at your best, you have to prioritize sleep.”

    At first, Sean was dismissive. “I don’t need that much. I wake up at 2:30 and I’m just laying there. Why should I just lay there?”

    But Sean tried to adjust. He listened to a podcast about banking sleep over the course of the week, averaging out to seven hours a night. On Monday through Thursday during the season, the goal is four to six hours. But sometimes he’s up at 2:30 anyway, no alarm, “mind racing,” and so he goes to the office. On Fridays and Saturdays, he aims for eight hours to be rested and sharp on game day. After games, he’s either too keyed up or too pissed off — and not just after losses — to turn off his brain.

    Then he starts the week all over again, watching film, not just to check a box but to reach that magical realm of focus when time seems suspended and background noise all but disappears. It sometimes takes a while. McVay has always been envious of Belichick and Shanahan, “cyborgs” who can concentrate for hours, he says. McVay can’t. People are always interrupting him. His phone is always buzzing; answering texts and emails only creates more texts and emails. He has to clear his mind and then reset. He used to disappear to the sauna, until he learned that his phone could withstand the heat. So now he hits the steam room, where phones don’t function well. Then he dives back into film study, helping him win 67% of his regular-season games and 70% of his playoff ones, a life that feels sustainable or not, depending on the day.

    “I’m not going to burn out coaching,” McVay insists. “That’s not going to happen.”

    Are his parents worried about him burning out?

    “Yeah,” Tim says.

    “Of course,” Cindy says.

    SAME TOPIC BUT different day, Veronika overhears our conversation and smiles out of the side of her mouth, knowing where it’s headed. The costs in Sean’s life are also costs in her life, and even if she signed on for it, even if it’s brought blessings beyond belief, even if she graduated from George Mason with a degree in international business and earned a master’s in global management from Arizona State and now has her own career in real estate, McVay still feels guilty about it — and guilty about his competing desires, as if he’s cheating both his personal and professional lives if he attempts to find balance.

    On this June evening, two days before their wedding, papers are scattered on the counter, detailing seating assignments and schedules for the reception. Yesterday they signed their marriage license.

    “Not having second thoughts yet?” Sean asks her.

    “Too late now,” she says.

    “When did you first realize I’m crazy?” he asks during a different quiet moment.

    “First date,” she says.

    They got serious in 2016, when they were both in Washington. After the Rams hired McVay, his buddies begged him to stay single for the first year. They had a plan: All of them would share a home in the hills and hunt around town as a pack, a football Entourage. It was a staggering misread of McVay’s ambition. He wanted to be a great coach, only a great coach. Veronika was essential to that plan. McVay asked her to move to L.A. with him, the unofficial-official beginning of their marriage. She not only helped enrich his life but also simplified it. In Washington, McVay was a prolific but unhappy dater. She provided not total balance, because that’s impossible in the NFL, but “a bit more balance,” McVay says.

    Veronika didn’t care about football — when he introduced her to various team owners at a league party, she was unfazed — but she did care about its role in Sean’s life. Whether the Rams won or lost didn’t affect her soul, her sense of self, her essence, like it did for him. She is patient and supportive — patiently supportive. Cindy once told her that she would have been a better mother to Sean if he had handled games the way Veronika does, with steady calm. McVay might not be happy all the time in this job, or even a lot of it, but he’s happier with Veronika and has had his best professional years since they fell in love.

    “Not by coincidence,” he says.

    Veronika was with Sean in Cabo San Lucas in January 2021 when he at his darkest, so down as to be broken. The Rams had just lost to the Packers in the divisional round. He had hit a wall with Goff, and knew he needed to move on from him, but didn’t know how — not with the four-year, $134 million extension that Goff had signed a little over a year earlier, a deal McVay had championed.

    Smart opposing coaches, especially in New England, were as impressed with how McVay managed to solve for Goff’s limits as they were confused by the contract the quarterback received. Everything McVay wanted to be seemed to be slipping away, and he was not blameless. He later fired a few staffers he had invested in, and even if he felt it was the right decision, he still felt guilty. Then, McVay’s mood perked up: He found out that Stafford was vacationing at the same resort — and that he wanted out of Detroit.

    They met for drinks poolside, talking football. A bond forged over sun and booze. McVay returned to his hotel and, “a few tequilas in,” he says now, hopped on a FaceTime with Rams brass, unleashing a plea that’s now legendary around the team’s office. “Here’s the f—ing deal, OK? We can sit here and exist, and be OK winning nine to 11 games, and losing in the f—ing divisional round and feel like, ‘Oh, everything’s OK.’ Or, we could let our motherf—ing nuts hang, and go trade for this f—ing quarterback, and give ourselves a chance to go win a f—ing world championship. You ready to f—ing do this or what?”

    Laughs followed, not pushback. Stafford was an obvious upgrade. And within days, he was a Ram. That acquisition, coupled with the Rams’ general indifference to high draft picks, prompted them to be labeled as the NFL’s first superteam since John McVay’s 1994 49ers — all-in for one year, championship or nothing. Sean chafed at the label but not the stakes. The Rams started 7-1, then lost all three games in November, just the second time in McVay’s career that he had lost three straight. Throws that Stafford had hit in his sleep in September and October suddenly became pick-sixes. McVay likes to deploy a hurry-up attack when his offense struggles, but injuries to receivers and new players in new positions essentially killed that option. McVay started down a familiar dark path.

    “It was a f—ing joke how pissed and how — I can’t even articulate. The disgust. The sickness. The constant pit in your gut. You have to fight what you’re feeling. You have to get up and lead and really authentically be able to demonstrate the strength that I think is a responsibility and necessity for a good leader — while not minimizing that I’m a human being too, and I f—ing hate this s—.”

    McVay didn’t want his mood to affect the entire building, so he often retreated to his home office. It created a void. The team didn’t crack — cornerback Jalen Ramsey’s leadership helped — but it was in danger of it. It needed more of McVay at a time when he was barely hanging on. The only coach who could tell this to McVay was Raheem Morris, one of his best friends since their Washington days.

    Morris is a ruthless competitor but knows that there’s something bigger than football at stake, which McVay intellectually understands but often struggles to practice. Years ago, McVay’s Rams beat the Falcons, where Morris was an assistant, and Cindy and Tim hosted a postgame party at their Atlanta house. Morris arrived with his family, smiling and gracious. Cindy later asked Sean whether he would have shown up if the roles were reversed. “Sure,” he said. Then he fessed up. “No.”

    One day in November, Morris asked McVay, “You all right?”

    Both men knew the answer. Morris reminded McVay that he gets lost inside his own head, alienating himself.

    “Think anybody else knows?” McVay asked.

    “Absolutely,” Morris said.

    “Sometimes people need you,” Morris told McVay. “Sometimes when your voice is around, you give people comfort. Make them feel better. You make them want to go play.”

    McVay had forgotten something essential about himself, something that is as responsible for his success as his ambition, his ethic and near photographic memory, the way he imagines formations and anticipates action and is able to simplify those ideas into teachable concepts: He’s magnetic. People like talking to him and enjoy his presence, at least when he’s at his best, and they like how he can laugh at himself, especially after he screws up. It not only gives the rest of the team permission to admit mistakes, but it also reminds everyone that they’re all imperfect and in it together.

    McVay had grown accustomed to people quieting when he entered a room, aware and wary of the boss. He reminded himself that he has always told the team that “it doesn’t have to be miserable in the pursuit of greatness,” and resolved to embody it, making himself more available. He watched videos of Tom Brady’s postgame news conferences after losses in 2020, looking for clues into the positive mindset required to rally and win it all.

    And on the Monday before the three-game skid ended, McVay met alone with Stafford. An impromptu meeting turned into a two-hour session. “It was basically like we were each other’s counselor,” McVay says. The most hyped union in the offseason had reached an impasse. They were true friends — McVay not only went to Stafford’s house for Easter but even brought his parents — but both felt insecure, and were internalizing the pressure, almost afraid to acknowledge its existence.

    “This isn’t too much,” McVay told Stafford. “But it’s a f—ing lot.”

    Stafford spoke, and as he did, McVay realized that he had lost sight of an important tenet as a playcaller: to simplify the quarterback’s job. Stafford’s presence had given McVay a passer whose talent was equal to the coach’s play innovation, but both men felt enough outside pressure, and the constant throwing on offense added to it. McVay promised Stafford that they’d run the ball more, then added: “Who gives a f— what everyone else says? Let’s enjoy it, let’s compete to the best of our ability, let the chips fall where they may, but nobody is going to get more criticism and scrutiny than we are.”

    “It was as honest and as good a conversation as I’ve had with a coach or teammate ever in my football career,” Stafford says now.

    Sean McVay sits for a portrait in his LA home. Shayan Asgharnia for ESPN
    L.A. won nine of its final 10 games, including two playoff fourth-quarter rallies by Stafford against the Bucs and 49ers. Late in the divisional-round game against the Bucs, the Rams had blown a 27-3 lead in less than a half and took over tied with 42 seconds left. It looked dire, a repeat of the Patriots-Falcons Super Bowl. But McVay knew from study that Bucs defensive coordinator Todd Bowles would give him one Cover 0 during hurry-up drives. Sure enough, on second down, Bowles played to tendency and called a blitz. McVay had a deep route to Kupp called, and Stafford hit him for 44 yards to set up the winning field goal and send Tom Brady into a monthlong retirement — one of the best answers of McVay’s career.

    In the Super Bowl, injuries to Odell Beckham Jr. and two of the Rams’ tight ends kept the game closer than McVay expected. Offensively it was down to Stafford and Kupp, and McVay scheming of ways to get Kupp open with the entire football-viewing world knowing that the ball was headed his way, which amazed coaches around the league. All of them delivered, for the third straight time. And on Cincinnati’s fourth-and-1 with 43 seconds left, Rams up three, McVay crouched over, saw a running back split wide — a giveaway that it was a pass. McVay dropped his eyes and thought, Oh my god. “Aaron Donald is going to make a play,” he said over his headset. After Donald forced an incompletion, McVay knelt and hugged Stafford, neck to neck. The quarterback tapped the coach’s leg a few times, triggering something deep in McVay. He finally let go. McVay doesn’t cry often, but when he does, the tears arrive fast. His eyes dampened almost instantly, reddening his face.

    After the postgame interviews and before the team party, McVay sat alone in his stadium office, showered and in a suit, with the Lombardi trophy and a stiff headache, trying to decompress. His head pounds after most games, his focus so intense that it almost seizes him.

    Morris, suffering a headache of his own, stopped by. Stafford and Kupp arrived, both still in partial uniform. Other players and staffers filtered in, followed by Stan and Josh Kroenke. The group posed for a photo, index fingers at the sky. McVay was almost prouder of how he — and the team — survived November than the Super Bowl win, conquering his worse impulses.

    A few months later, McVay spoke to the business side of the Rams’ building. “Everybody’s talking about, ‘Hey, superteams never work.’ F— you, motherf—er! It f—ing worked!”

    Just barely. And now it has to work again.

    AT 4:45 ON a dark spring morning, McVay is cleaning leaves. He has a plant near the foyer of his house, and the combination of sun and breeze from the door opening and closing causes the plant to shed. The pile on the floor triggers his compulsion. He sweeps them, then walks outside and into his Aston Martin SUV, trying to figure out something on the dashboard before giving up.

    “I can’t keep up with all this technology,” he says.

    He steers out of his neighborhood and onto the freeway as the sky lightens.

    “Ah, man,” he says, staring ahead.

    The Super Bowl gave McVay a measure of peace, of accomplishment, of license to see whether there are ways to make the job more sustainable — or at least feel more sustainable. Like many post-pandemic setups, his home office has turned into his primary one. It has all of his binders and material, with screens both on his desk and mounted on the wall. His facility office is windowless and the shelves are empty. There’s no trace that anyone works there, except for his stationery, which reads COACH McVAY.

    At home, he can watch film, walk outside and absorb some sun, pop in and out of conversation with Veronika or houseguests, before returning to the clicker. He’s trying to learn the lessons from last year: to be more present at the office but also have a chance of a life. He wants the same for his staff. This spring, McVay all but ordered assistants to leave the building in the early afternoon, forcing family time. “I don’t want the guys to be there,” he says. “We work too hard during the season.”

    As we enter the facility, McVay subtly changes. He turns on film of all of the team’s screen passes, ready to dig in. Something primal kicks in, the fierce bottom line of his work. Are the Rams good enough to repeat? Is he good enough?

    “Last year has zero to do with this year,” he says.

    After the Super Bowl, McVay glanced at the Amazon opportunity because of the money. But he didn’t actually take any meetings. There “was no way” he was going to leave coaching. Why? “The people,” he says. He’s got Stafford, Kupp and Donald in their primes. He loves his staff and appreciates general manager Les Snead and COO Kevin Demoff, even when all of them want to kill one another. He wonders what life would be like on the other side, discussing the game rather than coaching it, with more sleep and income, with children, supporting his family after Veronika spent so many years supporting him.

    Sometimes when he discusses it, he sounds like he’s testing out how it sounds, not to us, but to himself. Could he live without coaching? Could he live with himself without coaching? He wonders whether it might be the right time to retire when Stafford walks away, whenever that is. But then he circles back to that thing inside him he can’t live without. He has few hobbies or outlets. He reads mostly coaching or leadership books. He sometimes swims in his pool — at 3:30 a.m. Anchoring a broadcast crew, even if collegial, isn’t the same thing as leading a football team. Rams execs have joked with him that if he had to broadcast a blowout, or a game between two bad teams, he’d hate the job, and hate himself for taking it, so much that he would kill every player and decision, burning every bridge, an act of public self-sabotage to reverse-engineer a return to the sideline, where he belongs.

    “There are times I say to myself, what the f— am I thinking? Would I have done it differently?” he says a little later. “Yeah, probably. But those are temporary feelings. I wouldn’t know what to do if I had too much time on my hands.”

    The pain of last November comes up again. “You can only really replicate that misery when you’re in that moment. Working through all that …” He shakes his head. Then he smiles.

    “But I need that, too. There’s a part of me that, you love your f—ing misery.”

    He laughs at himself, not because it’s funny but because he knows it’s futile, pointless to fight. Veronika rolls her eyes whenever he talks about broadcasting. “You’re a coach,” she says. Of course, if he stays in coaching, it will mean the inevitable losing season. If you ask McVay what will happen if the Rams go 4-13, he scoffs, as if you mentioned something cosmically inconceivable. But when you ask his parents:

    “That’s when announcing sounds really good,” Cindy says.

    THAT AFTERNOON, McVay stands at a counter holding a folded piece of thin cardboard. It’s the playcalling sheet from the biggest game of his life, titled: Game #21 Bengals Super Bowl 2/13/22. The type is tiny. Plays are broken down by situation, down and distance and level of disaster, with one category called GBOT: Get Back on Track.

    Along the bottom are handwritten reminders. “Notes to myself,” he says. “Nobody else sees this but me.”

    See the game one play at a time

    Trust Yourself & Everyone Around You

    LMMAIOYP (Lord Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace)

    Present & Still is Key

    Patient & Joy

    He hangs on joy for a moment. “I actually did a pretty good job of that,” he says.

    He looks it over, a document that explains so much about who he is and wanted to be, the pinnacle of something, worthy of preservation. The card’s ink is smeared, its edges wrinkled, vaguely worn and damaged. I suggest that he should frame it before it’s too late.

    “Ha,” McVay says.

    Nope, not now. He wants it handy, needs it handy, should the Rams face the Bengals this season. “For reference,” he says as he carries it back to his office. Maybe it’s wise, or tragic, but most of all, it’s inevitable.

    Later that night, just past 9 p.m., McVay looks at his watch. He likes to stay on East Coast time, so right now his body clock is past midnight and into tomorrow. Veronika was downstairs with us earlier, snuggling with Sean on the couch as they drank red wine and watched playoff basketball. But the game ended, and she’s retired for the night. It’s quiet and still. McVay is tired, not literally but existentially. He checks his phone one last time for the evening, making sure there’s no Ukraine news or work drama.

    A task still hangs over him: the 208 clips of dropback install.

    He walks behind the bar, inserts a stopper into the wine bottle and stands for a moment, wondering what to do. Straight ahead is his office; to the right are stairs to the bedroom.

    He climbs to the second floor, with the answers he needs for tonight.

    #139805

    In reply to: camp reports week one

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    Rams’ Jalen Ramsey immersed in new role while rehabbing shoulder, eyes Sept. 8 return

    By Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://theathletic.com/3448200/2022/07/25/rams-jalen-ramsey-training-camp/?source=emp_shared_article

    IRVINE, Calif. — By the end of the Rams’ second day of training camp, the practice script Jalen Ramsey carried with him up and down the sideline during competitive team drills was crumpled and worn through in his hand.

    Ramsey is recovering from right shoulder surgery, which he had in June to repair one of two A.C. joint injuries he sustained around the middle of last season (Ramsey elected to play through the injuries at the time). At first, he said, the thought was that he could go the non-surgical rehabilitation route this offseason, as is possible with such injuries.

    “I was hoping (they) would heal on their own, getting some time off and not re-injuring it every Sunday by hitting or whatever the case may have been,” he said. “But it didn’t work out that way. It got to the point where it was just a little too yucky, a little too messed up in there. It just needed to be cleaned out and made new again.

    “We kind of had a deadline in our mind (to decide whether to get the surgery). We stuck with that deadline to figure out ‘if it’s not getting better by now then we need to fix it,’ so we’ll be ready when the time is right. It was a calculated decision on all parts, the training staff and myself.”

    The expectation is that Ramsey will be cleared for the season opener against Buffalo on Sept. 8.

    “There’s no doubt in my mind that I’ll be ready when the time is right,” he said Monday.

    The Rams initially said Ramsey would go on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list to open camp, which wouldn’t affect their roster numbers but would mean Ramsey couldn’t participate in team activities such as installation work. The team pivoted Sunday, declining to designate Ramsey to the PUP list after an evaluation by team doctors.

    Ramsey has participated in installation periods with teammates but seemed to really relish the mental work he did on the sideline throughout Monday’s practice. He stuck close to defensive coordinator Raheem Morris and defensive backs coaches Jonathan Cooley and Chris Shula, script in hand, and talked several of his teammates through coverage concepts and play calls alongside the assistants. Ramsey held a particularly strong gravitational pull for rookie cornerback Decobie Durant, drafted in the fourth round this spring. Durant workshopped concepts and technical notes with Ramsey whenever he wasn’t on the field.

    “He’s very smart. He wants to soak up a lot of knowledge,” Ramsey said of the younger cornerback. “But honestly, not just him — that’s everybody. Him, (Derion Kendrick) ‘D.K.,’ continuing to develop and help (Robert Rochell) ‘Scoota’ … I hate when I hear on a broadcast or something, like, ‘They’re really missing this guy, they’re really missing that guy,’ I hate that. I like when it’s kind of seamless. Maybe there’s a top dog, but everybody else that is under that is all at a steady, extremely high level of playing the position. That’s kind of the goal for our whole unit.”

    Ramsey has always enjoyed the tactical elements of football (Cooley told The Athletic last season that Ramsey is “at his best when he’s challenged” in this way and is often a few steps ahead of the class), so having the script with him for the day added another layer to his communication of the defense to others.

    “I kind of know the playbook like the back of my hand,” he said, smiling. “That’s really why I carry the script, so I can help the other guys. I know star, corner, whatever position in the secondary. That’s really why I carry the script, so that I can know exactly the play so I can know the certain techniques that I feel like they should be using, that could’ve helped them or if they got beat on a play, why they got beat. I can really analyze it within the play so I can give them feedback as soon as they come off the field instead of me having to wait until we get to the meeting room.”

    More observations and notes from the second day of training camp:

    (As a reminder, the Rams often structure their live periods to run the second team against the first team on each side of the ball. First-team-vs.-first-team periods will be specified in reports. Media members cannot report on schemes or the depth chart unless addressing it directly with a coach/player in an interview, but otherwise the full practice is open to credentialed viewers.)

    • Kendrick, another rookie cornerback, is drawing some early attention. He had a couple of good battles with speedy second-year receiver Tutu Atwell throughout Monday’s practice and even made a play on a contested ball intended for Allen Robinson. One of the plays of the day was made by Kendrick: Backup quarterback John Wolford unfurled a pretty deep pass to Atwell, who had a step on Kendrick well downfield. But Kendrick closed out at the catch point, more than making up for the gap in coverage, and broke up the pass in the end zone as his defensive teammates celebrated on the sideline.

    • Receiver Ben Skowronek made up for a couple of lost balls earlier in the day with a sliding catch in the end zone during red zone team drills.

    • Cornerback David Long forced an incomplete pass in team drills, and cornerback Troy Hill was the first to record an interception in camp with a snag off a tipped Wolford pass in team drills. Safety Taylor Rapp also forced an incomplete pass near the end of team drills against the second-team offense.

    • Receiver/return specialist Brandon Powell drew praise for a tough-fought catch-and-run through the middle of the field during team drills.

    • One of the best plays of the day was made by Robinson in red zone team drills. Quarterback Matthew Stafford fired a pass over the middle of the field as Robinson cut across the back of the end zone (and through heavy traffic) to secure the touchdown.

    • Stafford, who threw publicly for the first time since the Super Bowl as camp opened, again took a full workload and appeared crisper than he did Sunday.

    “He hasn’t been able to throw for a little while now, (and) you can’t simulate what it’s like throwing against a live defense until you get out here and do it,” said Cooper Kupp, who connected with Stafford several times in team drills. “There (were) lot of guys, during OTAs, that (was) all we got was being able to jog through stuff. So there’s going to be a little bit of that, getting back to feeling that (and) processing that as quickly as possible, and for Matthew being able to feel those live throws, speeding things up and manipulating people, manipulating his arm like he does. That’s gonna come. I know it’s gonna be leaps and bounds as things get going here.

    “Everyone wants to be in midseason form on Day 1. And it’s just not realistic. So we just gotta be patient, take things one day at a time and just continue to lay bricks.”

    • Extra tidbit: Count tight ends coach Thomas Brown and special teams coach Joe DeCamillis among the assistants who ride their bikes to the facilities from the team hotel. The peloton also includes offensive line coach Kevin Carberry.

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    In reply to: RIP Jane Roe

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    The end of Roe v. Wade, explained
    Roe v. Wade is now overruled. Are access to contraception, same-sex marriage, and even the right to choose your own sex partners next?

    https://www.vox.com/2022/6/24/23181720/supreme-court-dobbs-jackson-womens-health-samuel-alito-roe-wade-abortion-marriage-contraception

    Roe v. Wade is overruled. The Republican Party, which achieved a generational victory when it captured a supermajority of the Supreme Court’s seats under former President Donald Trump, has now capitalized on that victory to achieve one of its longtime political goals. The half-century when American constitutional law protected a right to an abortion is now over.

    Justice Samuel Alito’s majority opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization is substantially similar to a leaked early draft of that opinion, which was published by Politico in early May. Alito’s opinion was joined by the Court’s four most conservative members. Chief Justice John Roberts, a conservative who often takes a more incrementalist approach than Alito, wrote a separate opinion arguing that the Court should limit but not yet overrule Roe.

    Alito’s final opinion doesn’t just allow Mississippi to enact the 15-week abortion ban at issue in Dobbs — a ban that violated Planned Parenthood v. Casey, a 1992 opinion that weakened Roe while retaining the constitutional right to an abortion up to the point of “viability.” Alito’s opinion goes further, and concludes that Roe and Casey “must be overruled.” It is written in Alito’s characteristically snide tone, repeatedly referring to abortion providers by the pejorative term “abortionists.” And it rests on a conservative theory that limits which rights are protected by the Constitution.

    “The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision,” Alito writes.

    According to Alito, if a right isn’t explicitly mentioned in the Constitution, it must be “‘deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition’ and ‘implicit in the concept of ordered liberty’” to qualify for constitutional protection. He then spends many pages of his opinion arguing that the right to an abortion is not rooted in legal history or tradition.

    Much of Alito’s account of this history is dubious. The Roe opinion itself argued that, under English “common law,” which still forms the basis for much of US law, “abortion performed before ‘quickening’ — the first recognizable movement of the fetus in utero, appearing usually from the 16th to the 18th week of pregnancy — was not an indictable offense.” And there is considerable historical evidence that a right to pre-quickening abortions is, indeed, firmly rooted in US legal history and tradition.

    Ultimately, however, Alito’s opinion is less a triumph of one theory of history over another, than it is the triumph of one political party over another. Roe was overruled because Republicans appointed six justices and Democrats appointed only three. This outcome became inevitable the minute Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died in the final weeks of a Republican presidency.

    So what happens now? The immediate impact is that the many state laws that already ban abortion — either outright or very early in a pregnancy — will quickly take effect. Many clinics in the states with the most rigid laws suspended abortion procedures as soon as the Dobbs opinion came down.

    There’s also an open question about whether other rights, such as the right to same-sex marriage or the right to contraception, are in danger. Many of the Court’s decisions protecting a right to sexual, romantic, or bodily autonomy rely on similar reasoning to Roe. And Alito’s reasoning in the Dobbs opinion closely tracks reasoning he once used to argue that same-sex marriage is not rooted in American legal history and tradition. In other words, the logic Alito uses in Dobbs could be used to target other rights.

    That said, Alito’s Dobbs opinion does contain language denying that overruling Roe necessarily means the demise of other, still-existing freedoms. Alito declares abortion to be a “unique act” because it “terminates ‘life or potential life.’” That distinguishes the now-defunct constitutional right to abortion from, say, the right to marry a person of the same sex.

    This is one of the largest changes from the leaked opinion in May, which did contain some language suggesting that the Dobbs opinion is limited to abortion, but not nearly as much as the final version. That suggests that at least one of the justices who joined Alito’s opinions might have reckoned with the earlier draft’s sweeping repercussions and pushed for a slightly less aggressive opinion.

    But whether other rights are next on the chopping block or not, Dobbs is already a sweeping change for America, one that will immediately change society not just in the states likely to ban abortion, but across the country.

    Abortion will very soon be illegal in at least 18 states, and will be banned very early in pregnancy in at least four more

    Eighteen states currently have laws on the books that either ban abortion outright or permit it only in extremely limited circumstances. Some, but not all, of these states permit abortion to save a patient’s life or protect them from a dire health consequence. Some, but not all, permit the termination of a pregnancy that results from rape or incest.

    Many of these laws are now in effect, after the Court’s decision overruling Roe, but some of these states have “trigger” provisions that do not take effect until a certain condition is met — such as that 30 days have passed after the Dobbs decision. That means abortion may remain briefly legal in a few states with trigger laws, but that the bans will most likely take effect by the end of the summer.

    The 18 states with near-total bans on the books are Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

    Four other states — Georgia, Iowa, Ohio, and South Carolina — have laws on the books banning abortion after the sixth week of pregnancy, which is before many people who may want an abortion will be aware that they are pregnant. (There’s also the unusual case of North Carolina, which once had an abortion ban on the books. But a more recent law appears to have legalized abortion up to the 20th week of pregnancy.)

    It should be noted that this list of states will fluctuate. State supreme courts retain the power to interpret their own state constitutions, potentially to protect a right to abortion within their state’s borders. In Michigan, for example, a judge has temporarily blocked the state’s ban from taking effect, and the litigation continues. Given that Democrats currently hold a narrow majority on the state’s highest court, the state could protect the right to an abortion.

    And, of course, Alito’s opinion also means that state legislatures can pass new laws regulating or banning abortion. That means states currently controlled by Republicans are likely to enact new bans in the coming weeks or months.

    The future of LGBTQ rights is uncertain

    Alito’s Dobbs opinion acknowledges that the Constitution protects some rights that are not specifically mentioned in the Constitution, but only rights that are “deeply rooted in this Nation’s history and tradition.”

    He’s made this argument before. Specifically, Alito made this “history and tradition” argument in his dissenting opinion in Obergefell v. Hodges (2015), the landmark opinion holding that people with same-sex partners have the same right to marry that partner as anyone else. “It is beyond dispute that the right to same-sex marriage” is not sufficiently rooted in history and tradition, Alito claimed in his Obergefell dissent.

    Justice Clarence Thomas, meanwhile, wrote a concurring opinion in Dobbs where he denounced the concept of “substantive due process,” the legal theory that drives many of the Court’s decisions involving a right to sexual and romantic autonomy. Alito also rejects the idea that the due process clause of the 14th Amendment implies the right to an abortion. But Thomas goes further.

    According to Thomas’s opinion, which is joined by no other justice, the Court’s pro-contraception decision in Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), its decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) that consenting adults have a right to choose whom they have sex with and how they have sex, and its decision in Obergefell should all be reconsidered.

    That said, the final version of Alito’s opinion seems to go out of its way to explain that abortion is different from these other rights — again, because abortion involves the termination of a fetal life and these other rights do not. Much of this language was added after Alito wrote the leaked early draft of the Dobbs opinion.

    Indeed, Alito accuses the dissenting opinion — which is co-authored by all three of the Court’s Democratic appointees — of stoking “unfounded fear that our decision will imperil those other rights” because the dissent worries that Dobbs could endanger things like same-sex marriage or contraception.

    In any event, the future of rights other than abortion will likely need to be litigated. There is no doubt that Thomas would happily light many existing rights on fire. And there is little doubt that Alito, based on his Obergefell dissent, would also happily tear down same-sex marriage.

    But it takes five votes to strip away an existing constitutional right, and it remains to be seen whether Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett — conservatives who sometimes break with Alito’s most aggressive attempts to drive the law to the right — will support mass rollbacks of existing rights.

    Certain forms of contraception might now be banned

    Although there may not be five votes on the current Supreme Court to permit an outright ban on all forms of contraception, the Court may permit states to ban certain forms of contraception that many religious conservatives believe to be akin to abortion.

    In Burwell v. Hobby Lobby (2014), a 5-4 Supreme Court held that employers who object to certain forms of birth control on religious grounds may refuse to cover these contraceptive methods in their employees’ health plans. At least some of the plaintiffs in Hobby Lobby claimed that “two forms of emergency contraception commonly called ‘morning after’ pills and two types of intrauterine devices” can cause an abortion because they “may operate after the fertilization of an egg.”

    It is far from clear that these forms of birth control actually do operate on fertilized eggs. As Dr. Mary Jacobson, an OB-GYN and chief medical officer at Alpha Medical, told me, “No existing scientific studies validate the fallacy that hormonal contraceptives or the copper intrauterine device act partly as abortifacients.”

    But the question of whether IUDs or morning-after pills qualify as contraception (which is still protected by existing Supreme Court precedents) or abortion-inducing drugs (which are not protected after Dobbs) will not be decided by medical doctors. It will be decided by a federal judiciary dominated by conservative Republicans.

    In Gonzales v. Carhart (2007), moreover, the Supreme Court held that state and federal lawmakers have “wide discretion to pass legislation in areas where there is medical and scientific uncertainty.” This line is likely to play a starring role in conservative judicial decisions permitting bans on certain forms of contraception.

    Under Gonzales, to justify a contraception ban, a state does not need to prove that a particular form of contraception definitively acts as an abortion-inducing drug. They just have to convince a court that may be dominated by right-wing Republicans that there is “uncertainty” about how a pill or contraceptive device operates.

    Litigation over contraception bans, in other words, is inevitable if a state decides to ban common forms of birth control such as the morning-after pill or IUDs.

    Will the courts declare abortion illegal in all 50 states?
    Abortion opponents will no doubt feel emboldened by their victory in Dobbs, and will try to press their advantage.

    One of the most aggressive anti-abortion theories is known as “fetal personhood.” It claims that a fetus is entitled to the same rights as a fully born human being. And thus the law must treat killing a fetus the same as a homicide.

    Could this theory gain purchase in this Supreme Court? Based solely on the text of the Dobbs opinion, the answer is “no.” Alito claims that his decision “returns the issue of abortion to … legislative bodies” and allows people with varying opinions on abortion to “affect the legislative process by influencing public opinion, lobbying legislators, voting, and running for office.”

    Alito, of course, is notoriously hostile to the right to vote. Among other things, he is the author of Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee (2021), an opinion that invented a number of judicially created limits on the Voting Rights Act that appear nowhere in the law’s text. So, if Alito’s Dobbs opinion does permit voters to shape abortion policy moving forward, it will do so only after Alito has skewed the electorate toward Republicans.

    A second caveat worth considering is that the Court recently tripped over itself to ensure that Texas’s SB 8 law, an unusual ban on most abortions that relies on private litigation to enforce the ban, could take effect. (Now Dobbs permits Texas to ban abortions outright.)

    The Court’s decision in that case, Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson (2021), didn’t simply shield SB 8 from judicial review. If taken seriously, Jackson’s reasoning would permit a state to nullify any constitutional right by writing a law with a similar enforcement mechanism as SB 8 .

    The Court, in other words, was willing to do considerable violence to the Constitution as a whole in order to spite abortion rights in Jackson. That suggests that five justices may be willing to take similarly extraordinary steps to restrict abortion in the future.

    For the time being, however, the Court’s most recent pronouncement on abortion rights is Dobbs. And Dobbs, at least on its face, is inconsistent with the theory of fetal personhood.

    At least for now, in other words, abortion is likely to remain legal in blue states.

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    Topic: RIP Jane Roe

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    well, that’s a shame.

    URL = Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion upheld for decades : NPR

    Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ending right to abortion upheld for decades

    June 24, 202210:43 AM ET

    The U.S. Supreme Court officially reversed Roe v. Wade on Friday, declaring that the constitutional right to abortion upheld for nearly a half century, no longer exists.

    Writing for the court majority, Justice Samuel Alito said that the 1973 Roe ruling and repeated subsequent high court decisions reaffirming Roe “must be overruled” because they were “egregiously wrong,” the arguments “exceptionally weak” and so “damaging” that they amounted to “an abuse of judicial authority.”

    The decision, most of which was leaked in early May, means that abortion rights will be rolled back in nearly half of the states immediately, with more restrictions likely to follow. For all practical purposes, abortion will not be available in large swaths of the country. The decision may well mean too that the court itself, as well as the abortion question, will become a focal point in the upcoming fall elections and in the fall and thereafter.

    Joining the Alito opinion were Justice Clarence Thomas, appointed by the first President Bush, and the three Trump appointees — Justices Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Chief Justice Roberts, appointed by President George W. Bush, concurred in the judgment only, and would have limited the decision to upholding the Mississippi law at issue in the case, which banned abortions after 15 weeks.

    Dissenting were Justices Stephen Breyer, appointed by President Clinton, and Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, appointed by President Obama.

    “With sorrow — for this Court, but more, for the many millions of American women who have today lost a fundamental constitutional protection — we dissent,” they wrote.

     

    Alito’s opinion is a tour de force of the various criticisms of Roe that have long existed in academia

    Indeed, the 78-page opinion, which has a 30-page appendix, seemingly leaves no authority uncited as support for the proposition that there is no inherent right to privacy or personal autonomy in various provisions of the Constitution — and similarly, no evidence that peoples’ reliance on the court’s abortion precedents over the past half century should matter.

     

    Alito pointed for instance, to Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 decision that upheld the central holding of Roe and was written by Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and David Souter, all Republican appointees to the court. Alito pointed to language in the Casey opinion that he said “conceded” reliance interests were not really implicated because contraception could prevent almost all unplanned pregnancies.

     

     

    In fact, though, that 1992 opinion went on to dismiss that very argument as “unrealistic,” because it “refuse to face the fact” that for decades “people have organized intimate relationships and made choices … in reliance on the availability of abortion in the event that contraception should fail.” Not exactly the concession that Alito described.

     

    It is not unusual for justices to cherry pick quotes but not so out of context and not from former colleagues who are still alive and privately, not amused at all.

     

    In the end, though, Alito’s opinion has a larger objective, perhaps multiple objectives.

     

    Writing for the majority, he said forthrightly that abortion is a matter to be decided by states and the voters in the states. “We hold,” he wrote, that “the Constitution does not confer a right to abortion.” As to what standard the courts should apply in the event that a state regulation is challenged, Alito said any state regulation of abortion is presumptively valid and “must be sustained if there is a rational basis on which the legislature could have thought” it was serving “legitimate state interests,” including “respect for and preservation of prenatal life at all stages of development.” In addition, he noted, states are entitled to regulate abortion to eliminate “gruesome and barbaric” medical procedures; to “preserve the integrity of the medical profession”; and to prevent discrimination on the basis of race, sex, or disability, including barring abortion in cases of fetal abnormality.

     

    Ultimately, the translation of all that is that states appear to be completely free to ban abortions for any reason.

     

    Near the end of the opinion, Alito sought to allay fears about the wide-ranging nature of his opinion. “To ensure that our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized, we emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right. Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion. ”

     

    But in his concurrent opinion, Justice Thomas said the legal rationale for Friday’s decision could be applied to overturn other major cases, including those that legalized gay marriage.

     

    “For that reason, in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” he wrote. “Because any substantive due process decision is ‘demonstrably erroneous.'”

     

    The court’s liberals noted that Thomas’s language cast doubts on Alito’s majority opinion that said the court’s decision did not mean that cases like Obergefell would be affected.

     

    “The first problem with the majority’s account comes from Justice Thomas’s concurrence—which makes clear he is not with the program,” they wrote. “In saying that nothing in today’s opinion casts doubt on non-abortion precedents, Justice Thomas explains, he means only that they are not at issue in this very case.”

     

    The next steps on abortion across the country would play out in a variety of ways, almost all of them resulting in abortion bans.

     

    Several states — among them Mississippi, North Carolina, and Wisconsin — still have decades-old abortion bans on their books; with Roe overturned, those states could revert to a pre-Roe environment. Officials in such states could seek to enforce old laws, or ask the courts to reinstate them. For example, a Michigan law dating back to 1931 would make abortion a felony. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, has been working to try to block that law.

     

    A cascade of newly active state laws

    Another path to banning abortion involves “trigger bans,” newer laws pushed through by anti-abortion rights legislators in many states in anticipation of the Supreme Court’s action. Some 15 states – in the South, West and Midwest – have such laws in place, according to CRR and Guttmacher, but they fall into different categories.

     

    Some states will act quickly to ban abortion. According to a new analysis by the Guttmacher Institute, South Dakota, Kentucky and Louisiana have laws in place that lawmakers designed explicitly to take effect immediately upon the fall of the Roe precedent. Idaho, Tennessee, and Texas – where most abortions are already illegal after about six weeks of pregnancy – have similar laws, which would take effect after 30 days. Guttmacher says seven other “trigger ban” states have laws that would require state officials such as governors or attorneys general to take action to implement them.

    Sue Liebel, state policy director with the anti-abortion rights group Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, said she expects officials in many of those Republican-controlled states to take swift action to do so.

     

    “We have been talking to all of those about acting immediately,” Liebel told NPR. “So when that happens, let’s be ready. How do you get that back into play?”

     

    In recent years, many states also have passed gestational bans prohibiting abortion at various stages of pregnancy. Courts have blocked many of those laws in response to legal challenges, including laws in Georgia, Ohio, and Idaho that ban abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Now those laws may take effect immediately. So too, could a law recently enacted in Oklahoma, that makes performing abortion a felony punishable by time in prison.

     

    “It will be a tremendous change in an incredibly short period of time,” said Julie Rikelman, senior director of litigation at the Center for Reproductive Rights. Rikelman argued the Center’s challenge to Mississippi’s abortion ban at Supreme Court this term.

     

    A host of other restrictions could limit where, by whom, and under what conditions abortion can be provided. Some examples include laws requiring parental notification or consent for abortions involving patients who are minors; and other health regulations for doctors and clinics that many medical groups say are unnecessary, expensive, and difficult to comply with.

     

    Finally, Liebel said some governors may consider calling special sessions to pass new legislation in response to Friday’s ruling.

     

    More legal uncertainty

    Legal experts say the court’s decision will pose new questions for other courts to deal with – questions about how to apply the specific language of the final ruling to individual state laws.

     

    If Roe is indeed overturned or substantially rolled back, Rikelman, the Center for Reproductive rights attorney, predicts “legal chaos” in states across the country in the immediate aftermath of the decision.

     

    “I think what we will see is far more litigation in the federal courts – not less litigation,” Rikelman said.

     

    Some states such as Texas and Oklahoma have multiple abortion restrictions on the books, raising potential questions about which ones would be valid. Those laws each include different provisions and carry different penalties, adding to the potential confusion and prompting additional litigation in state and federal courts.

     

    Liebel, with SBA Pro-Life America, acknowledged that more legal battles are likely.

     

    “That’s gonna take us back, frankly, to where we always have been. Each side tries to put their big toe right on that line and push the envelope,” Liebel said.

     

    Battles in state courts are also likely. Some state constitutions may offer protections for abortion rights notwithstanding the U.S. Supreme Court’s interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. In Florida, for example, the American Civil Liberties Union and other reproductive rights groups are challenging a 15-week abortion ban modeled on Mississippi’s law, on the grounds that it violates privacy rights protections guaranteed in Florida’s state constitution.

     

     

    Even without overturning Roe, Rikelman points to the Texas law known as S.B. 8, which took effect in September. The law, which has spawned several copycat proposals in other states, including Oklahoma, relies on individuals filing civil lawsuits to enforce an abortion ban.

     

    Interstate enforcement battles

    Abortion bans in restrictive states will likely bleed over to states that protect abortion rights as well, Rikelman said. She notes that some state lawmakers are trying to prohibit people in other states from providing abortions to their residents.

     

    “What we are seeing already are states and state legislators impacting even people’s ability to access abortion in places where it would remain legal,” she said.

     

    For example, an omnibus abortion law passed by a Republican supermajority in Kentucky earlier this year includes a host of new requirements for dispensing medication abortion pills, and a provision for extraditing people from other states who illegally provide abortion pills to Kentuckians. It’s unclear how enforceable those types of laws would be.

     

    Meanwhile, some states are trying to expand access to abortion in preparation for more patients traveling from restrictive states for procedures. Connecticut lawmakers passed legislation this year designed to protect abortion providers from out-of-state lawsuits.

     

    “This just raises a whole host of issues,” Rikelman said. “All of those different disputes will have to be worked out in the courts” including, potentially, in the U.S. Supreme Court.

     

    Even as abortions have now become far more restricted overall, the Guttmacher Institute reports that the long-term decline in abortions has reversed. In 2020, there were 930,160 abortions in the U.S., an increase of 8 percent more abortions than in 2017. The Institute also said that at the same time, fewer people were getting pregnant

     

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    jourdan rodrigue wrote this article for the athletic. she’s usually not prone to hyperbole. and maybe i’m wrong but there seems to be a lot of hype building up around jones. having him and wagner in the middle could be a gamechanger for this defense. https://theathletic.com/3342600/2022/06/13/rams-ernest-jones-linebacker/?redirected=1

    ‘He’s different’: Inside Rams’ Ernest Jones’ journey toward NFL’s next great linebacker

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Putting on full football gear is a meticulous act and, for many players, a well-practiced and mindless routine.

    For Ernest Jones, inserting knee and thigh pads, adjusting his socks to the right height, clipping the buckles on his shoulder pads and attending to a dozen other details is meditative. When equipment assistants offer to help with various clips and clasps, Jones politely declines. The act of putting himself together, piece by piece, is his own.

    “It’s an armor thing,” Jones told The Athletic. “I love that … I’m connected to every part of the game, even those little things that some people don’t worry about. It’s just something that I have to do that makes me go out there and perform at my best.”

    Jones is an inside linebacker. Inside linebackers in the Rams’ defensive scheme need to navigate the field effectively horizontally and vertically. They must play predictively — with a savvy diagnosis of the quarterback, whom they study while simultaneously moving through the most heavily trafficked portion of the field and finding the ball, whether the quarterback declares where he’s putting it or not. Inside linebackers used to play like rocks crashing into rocks, thudding painfully downhill into single gaps. Now, and in this particular defense, they must play like water flowing to that rock, weaving around and through whatever is in the way, then crashing, then smothering. To play like this means understanding space.

    That is what sets Jones apart, even as young as he is. He doesn’t see the lanes and leverages that develop around him once the ball is snapped as much as he feels them. He has an innate knowledge of space but also an ownership of it that is growing as he continues to mature as a player.

    “More so than seeing it, it’s more of a feel,” he said. “I can feel a lineman on my left side, where I may need to dip my shoulder or put out my arm. You see a little, but I more so feel, and that’s the way I navigate through it. I’m just weaving in and out, through it, just trying to get to the ball. That’s the majority of it: a feel.”

    As Jones puts on his equipment piece by piece, he believes he is also activating his connection to football, a “flow state” that eventually takes over his mind and body when he starts to play and allows him to command the space around him. Jones believes each small action is a bridge to the game he plays, which tethers him to it. It’s a striking consideration for someone so young. Jones is just 22 — even as a second-year player he is still among the youngest of his teammates — and in 2021 he was their youngest starter.

    Over a nine-month span last year, Jones rapidly ascended from late third-round draft pick to midyear starter to impact starter on the Rams’ star-studded roster. He recovered from a serious ankle injury — and in-season surgery — over a four-game period and ultimately recorded seven tackles (two for loss), defensed a pass and sacked Cincinnati quarterback Joe Burrow in the Rams’ Super Bowl win in mid-February.

    What does a person do next if they reach the mountaintop at just 22? For all of Jones’ understanding and connection to the space around him as he plays, what will he do with what is ahead of him?

    Rams Southeast area scout Michael Pierce was on a routine visit to check on a few senior players at South Carolina when Jones caught his attention.

    “All of the sudden, there’s a sophomore and you’re looking out there like: ‘Man, who is this linebacker who is so spirited and passionate? He’s competing, talking and chirping as a sophomore,’” Pierce said. “Who is this guy?! Then you go in the building, and you don’t (usually) want to talk about underclassmen. But you’re like, ‘Hey, man, that No. 53, he stands out.’”

    Pierce studied Jones closely after that. He could see he was raw, sure. But he was growing into his long arms and legs and huge hands, and Jones just kept coming at the more veteran players in competitive practices.

    “And then you turn on the film, and you’re like: ‘Man, he’s so instinctive — so instinctive — so young. … He’s different from a lot of people on the field,” Pierce said.

    Pierce and the Rams weren’t the only ones who recognized Jones’ potential as he developed into a team captain at South Carolina. Ira Turner, an Agency 1 agent who now represents Jones, remembers sitting on a couch across from Jones and his mother, Porsche Wells, in their home when he was working to sign Jones. Wells grilled Turner front, back and sideways as Jones fought to suppress a grin.

    “His mom is very particular about who is around her son,” Turner said, laughing. “We had to go through the third degree with her!

    “It just was a fit. … Over (time), we’ve been able to build a bond. This is definitely family.”

    Their connection was immediate. Jones said meeting Turner felt like “home.” Jones leaned on Turner as he went through what was, in his mind, a frustrating draft process. He declared for the 2021 NFL Draft with a year of eligibility left and didn’t test well during the pre-draft evaluation period. Jones’ Relative Athletic Score was a 6.39 out of 10, and multiple draft analysts predicted he would be a career backup player or special-teamer. Jones had a draft party with friends and family, and what started as a fun gathering turned into an excruciating wait as pick after pick went by.

    What Jones didn’t know was the Rams were hoping his less-than-flashy athletic testing numbers would help him fall to them late in the third round. General manager Les Snead, in particular, was hooked on Jones after watching his tape. The year before, the Rams found a late-round gem in safety Jordan Fuller, who didn’t test well but showed high football and emotional intelligence and was hardly ever out of position. Snead, Pierce and eventually defensive coordinator Raheem Morris and then-linebackers coach Chris Shula (coaches join the draft process near its end) saw similar traits in Jones. Fuller won a starting job in training camp as a rookie in 2020; the group of evaluators felt Jones could be an early starter, too.

    “This is an instinctive guy who is wired the right way,” Pierce said. “He plays the game the right way. On top of that, he’s mature on and off the field. In my opinion, I thought he was a perfect fit for us because this guy, he wants to own this. He wants to be the owner of the defense. He wants to know it all. He wants to be the guy.”

    When the Rams sent in their pick for Jones at No. 103 — “We were shocked he was there,” said Shula — it was with rare consensus agreement from the entire staff: the scouts and executives, the analysts and the coaches.

    “It was awesome seeing that he was on the board on that point because you never know where a guy like that goes,” Pierce said. “Him being there was like, ‘Yes.‘ Absolutely. Everybody loved Ernest. … It’s pretty rare. You got 10 to 15 people watching these guys; you’re bound to have at least one person (disagree), which is totally fine. But yes, it’s rare to say that everybody feels like this guy can play for us and we’re excited, that we want him on our team. That’s pretty rare.”

    As Jones’ rookie season began, he was eager to contribute immediately, but he didn’t — at least not as a starter. The Rams were still exploring the more veteran linebacker Kenny Young’s fit in an evolving defense under Morris, and they didn’t want to suddenly pivot to Jones, who at the time was unproven. Turner often talked on the phone with Jones about staying ready, staying patient and not rushing his journey even as his then-21-year-old client ached to get on the field. By accident during a preseason game, Jones had gotten a taste of what his role could be when he called the first defensive series because the helmet microphone connected to Morris wasn’t working. And he wanted more.

    But it wasn’t until the Rams traded Young to the Broncos in late October that Jones knew his opportunity had come. Internally, sources said at the time, the personnel staff felt Jones was ready for more snaps, and that meant moving on from Young. Ultimately, that move began talks between Denver and Los Angeles about their major trade for Von Miller just a few days later. Jones’ readiness, the staff thought, was the hinge point in fast-tracking the conversation about Miller. If Jones hadn’t been ready, the Rams wouldn’t have opened dialogue with Denver about Young, then escalated it to Miller. It was a complicated feeling for Jones; he and Young got along well, but Jones was also consumed by a need to get on the field.

    “That was my first real big view of how the NFL works, the business (side),” Jones said. “Of course I hated it, just knowing Kenny and (he had) to just pack up everything, move everything — his family. That’s not something any of us want to see. … But I knew at that point in time that it was my time to do a job.”

    Turner called Jones to talk him through what he was feeling, then said: “It’s time to go. I know you’re ready.”

    Jones’ growth since the summer — and his effect on the Rams defense — was immediately apparent. He played 10 snaps on defense in an ugly Week 4 loss to Arizona, but his workload increased to 68 snaps against the Cardinals in Week 14. Against the small, slippery Kyler Murray, Jones’ long arms, big hands in throwing lanes and ability to manipulate and leverage the space in the middle of the field became a menace. He had seven tackles, tipped a pass and intercepted one, too (and returned it 31 yards). Coaches saw that while Jones still had a lot to learn about the NFL, his instinctive play and feel for flowing through and shedding stacks of massive players to get where he needed to go was something they couldn’t teach.

    “He’s truly, like, a modern-day old-school linebacker,” Shula said. “You just don’t get in the way. Let him play.”

    “Since I started playing linebacker, I just felt like I had a knack for weaving through and just being able to get to the ball, in a sense,” Jones said, “not having to always fight through people or fight through traffic. … To be able to go around it or go through it in ways most people don’t.”

    In Week 16, Jones suffered a bad high ankle sprain. He chose to have surgery immediately, in hopes he could make a postseason return, but nothing was promised. And the rehab was brutal.

    “Rehab is stressful, just knowing that time is limited, and you just don’t want to have injuries and be off the field,” Jones said. “There were tough days where I wanted to cry, where I did cry, just working through the movements and trying to get it back as strong as possible.

    “I just knew that I wanted to get back out there and prove I could still come back and play and that I’m here for the team and want to do the best and want to be the best so that we could go out there and win.”

    Jones returned in time for the NFC Championship Game against San Francisco.

    “Coming back from a high ankle sprain, surgery, back in four weeks — I don’t even understand how you do that, first of all,” Fuller said. “But the reason he was back is because of how he approaches everything he does. It’s a testament to him and what he’s made up of inside.”

    Against the 49ers, a still-recovering Jones played only about half of his usual snaps. As usual, he wanted more.

    “Even in the weeks before that, I was already running. I was already feeling good,” he said. “I wanted to be back for that game, against that team.”

    Two weeks later, as the first quarter of the Super Bowl unfolded, Jones defensed a pass on fourth-and-1 that gave the Rams the ball back at midfield — they scored their first touchdown a few plays later. At halftime, Morris adjusted the game plan for Jones, allowing him to blitz more frequently through the rest of the game and stay on the field against the Bengals’ three-receiver sets. In the third quarter, Jones’ sack on Burrow for a 7-yard loss helped stall what had been a furious second-half comeback effort by the Bengals. Jones pushed his still-recovering body to its limits until late in the fourth quarter, when he had to hobble off the field after stopping running back Joe Mixon for a 3-yard loss and just before the Rams mounted their final go-ahead scoring drive.

    As the final score flashed on the massive video board at SoFi Stadium and the blue and yellow confetti fell, Jones limped toward the middle of the field. He fell to his knees, then pressed his forehead to the turf.

    In late March, the Rams added future Hall of Fame inside linebacker Bobby Wagner to their roster in free agency.

    Wagner, 31, has long been known for his ability to diagnose quarterbacks and offenses as the former defensive signal caller through the standout era of Seattle Seahawks football. The Rams, who historically do not financially invest in the inside linebacker position, aggressively pursued Wagner not only because they felt his presence would help keep them in postseason contention, but also because they saw an opportunity to push Jones, too.

    “When he came for the visit (pre-signing), I got a call, and I was like: ‘Let’s get him. Let’s do what we gotta do and get him here to help us win it again,’” Jones said.

    Wagner was Jones’ favorite player growing up (and still is). Wagner is also a player whose traits, particularly his football IQ/EQ and how he negotiates space on the field, the Rams studied when building their pre-draft evaluation profile of Jones.

    “Him being in the room every day and just watching him, it’s been amazing. It’s been the highlight of my career so far,” Jones said. “(I’m) learning from someone who has done everything that I aspire to do: Pro Bowls, All-Pros, Super Bowls. He’s everything that I want to (be) and more.

    “Man, he’s great. Just being able to watch him do the work. … We sit there and talk football all the time, but I’m more so visualizing, watching what he does throughout the day. Watch his stance. Watch his feet. Watch his hands, how his body moves. Just trying to perfect my craft and be one of the greatest, like he is.”

    Wagner laughed, and winced a little, when he first met Jones and realized Jones was born almost 10 years after him. Quickly, the two started sharing music (Wagner, a Los Angeles native, loves Kendrick Lamar, while Jones is trying to put him on to Rod Wave), and Jones teases Wagner for always wanting to play basketball — “Even though he can’t, which I really don’t understand,” Jones said, chuckling. When they take the field together, they are two generations of the linebacker position in action: the veteran and the young player who hopes he’s ready to receive the torch when it’s passed.

    “He has all of the attributes of a great linebacker. If I could do anything to help, I will,” Wagner said. “I think he’s a very special player, and he has a chance to be really, really good.”

    “He’s gonna be tired of me before it’s all said and done,” added Jones, chuckling again. “We’re going to be connected at the hip. He’s gonna be aggravated with the questions I do ask. He’s a genius, for real. Just having him there, it’s truly going to take my game to the next level.”

    This spring, Jones’ hometown of Waycross, Ga., threw him a celebration day and parade after the Rams won the Super Bowl. Waycross is a “Friday Night Lights” town that shuts down its stores each week when Ware County High football plays because everybody’s at the game. Jones played on both sides of the ball back then. He was a long-armed, big-handed receiver before he grew out of the position and became a tight end, then picked up linebacker just over six years ago to maximize his playing time.

    “I loved it, not coming off the field,” he said. He now realizes he needed those extra snaps on a deeper level. His mother worked hard to support her family (and she never missed one of Jones’ practices or games), but times weren’t always easy. Some weeks, Jones wasn’t sure where they would stay or sleep.

    But football was a fixed point, a place of refuge. Further, it was something Jones understood even when he felt lost, unmoored or anxious. As he locked into his rhythm on the field, Jones created a space around him that he could always come back to. A place that was his.

    “It’s always been something I could always lean on,” he said. “When times weren’t the way I wanted them to be, just anything we could do (that was) about football — talking about it, playing it, looking at it, watching it — just gives me the joy to keep going …

    “Football is a safe place for me, to be able to get away from everything.”

    When Jones traveled back to Waycross for the town’s celebration, he was stunned and moved by the reception. It felt like he could share his special connection to football with his hometown and like his supporters really understood and valued it — valued him.

    “Seeing everyone there, and mostly the kids, how much my name — me being from there and (achieving) such a big accomplishment — (meant) to them, that means the world to me,” he said. “All the hard work that I put in really kind of made sense at that time.

    “My accomplishments are minor. To everyone else they may be major, but to me it’s just another thing that I’m trying to do, another stepping stone to a goal. But — it may be a soft spot for my town and the kids back there — just walking down the auditorium and just seeing everybody in there, seeing (kids who) didn’t look like me but who were happy and supportive of what I did. … It was a bunch of different races; everyone came together for me. I never thought I would be in the position where I’m bringing people together like that. It made me feel like I was doing something positive and in the right direction.”

    This month, the Rams finished their spring practices in preparation for the season ahead. During seven-on-seven and installation periods, Jones and Wagner ebbed and surged together as they tracked the quarterback and the ball, studying eyes and shoulders and angles and leverages and gaps. Studying and feeling space.

    Jones recently changed his jersey number from 50 to 53, in homage to his college days. In the sticky, pressing air of summer practices in Columbia, S.C., Jones took the required steps to blossom into that leader and team captain who first stuck out to Pierce — the player who had the tenacity to throw himself into the unknown of the NFL a year early because he believed he could meet all of the expectations that came next, because it was football and he knows football in a way he still sometimes can’t explain. He just feels it.

    Perhaps by changing his number, Jones is reaching back in a way after accomplishing something in his rookie season that so few NFL players achieve in their entire careers. Changing back to No. 53 is about forming yet another tether to the game he loves, but perhaps he is also connecting to his former self who didn’t yet know what the confetti would look like as it fell, who wasn’t yet the hero of the young kids in his hometown. Back when Jones wore No. 53, growing was the entire point. He has a ring. Now, it’s time to see what he can become next.

    Soon, Jones will buckle back into his full pads for the first game of just his second season, with so much already behind him and yet everything before him. Jones can’t see the exact steps just yet, but he trusts he’ll feel them. He trusts he’ll meet them.

    Click. He’ll wrap his fingers around one buckle, and then another. Click.

    Then, the space around Jones — and the space ahead of him — becomes his to explore.

     

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    “He’s such a slow, patient mover,” said Coen, who clarified — he’s not saying that Wagner lacks speed; he’s saying that the game moves slow for Wagner because of his high football IQ and elimination of wasted movements.

    Here’s Wagner himself on that:

    Wagner said as you get older, you realize there’s a lot of wasted movement. He doesn’t waste steps when it comes to processing the game. …“You want your mind to be fast, your body to be slow.”

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