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June 10, 2024 at 1:03 am #151152
ZooeyModeratorThread of photographers who patiently waited to capture the shot of a lifetime
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April 28, 2024 at 12:32 am #150573In reply to: draft assessments, grades, and analysis
znModeratorRams 2024 NFL Draft takeaways: Patience pays off with meat-and-potatoes additions
Jourdan Rodrigue
https://theathletic.com/5452706/2024/04/27/los-angeles-rams-2024-draft-picks-takeaways/
HERMOSA BEACH, Calif. — The best way to describe the 2024 Los Angeles Rams draft: meat-and-potatoes picks. While the Rams explored opportunities to make a splash into the top 10 the morning of the first round, they decided to stay put as the draft began and let the board fall. In doing so, their course seemed set: They selected an immediate impact player at edge/outside linebacker in Jared Verse, then his partner in college in Braden Fiske via a trade up (the cost of which raised a few eyebrows).
From there, the Rams filled what they believed were needs, with players they liked. Coach Sean McVay wanted to find a second running back, and he and position coach Ron Gould hoped to bring in a player similar to lead rusher Kyren Williams so that nothing schematic would need changing if Williams (who has dealt with injuries the last two seasons) were to miss any time or has to keep fresher legs through a long season.
With later picks, the Rams added depth at safety, along the defensive and offensive line and — joy of joys for the fan base — a kicker.
Best value pick
Verse will be expected to start right away, and in seeing him in person at the Rams’ draft house in Hermosa Beach on Friday, it’s clear why he will fit in on an NFL practice field. He has a huge frame — he is built more like a pure defensive end than an outside linebacker, although the Rams will start him out as a true edge — and a larger-than-life personality with energy to match.
The Rams’ biggest need in the previous two offseasons (until Verse’s arrival) was a second outside pass rusher. They found a full-time starter in 2023 in Byron Young, who will now enter his second NFL season. Verse is a great power/versatility complement to Young’s speed, but the coaches think each having a partner on the opposite end could unlock more opportunities for both players to develop other elements to their rush, not just their trademark tools.
Most surprising pick
Actually, the biggest surprise here is that the Rams went with a patient draft strategy for a second consecutive year, matching clear needs with some of their favorite players in the class. Before 2023, it was not unusual to see their early picks gravitate toward offensive-skill players. Two years in a row, the asking prices for potential trades up in or into the first round were steep enough — and evaluations of non-skill players were high enough — to keep them on what I earlier referred to as the meat-and-potatoes track.
In terms of specific players, Jordan Whittington ultimately could prove to be a surprise. He is a strong yards-after-catch player who might find an immediate role on special teams. Generally, when the Rams use a pick on a skill player late in the sixth or the seventh rounds, it’s because they believed he would be a high-interest undrafted free agent they might not be able to sign, or another team could draft them to poach them.
Biggest question mark
Questions remain about the cornerbacks, despite several veteran signings, because Tre’Davious White is still recovering from an Achilles repair surgery. In the future, the Rams will need to look higher in the draft at tackle (Rob Havenstein is a veteran, and Alaric Jackson is essentially playing on a one-year deal) and at receiver.
Remaining needs
The Rams could still use depth at inside linebacker, and I would expect their undrafted free-agent class to include a few players at that position.
While the Rams have a full room at receiver this season (including a healthy Cooper Kupp), it would not have been surprising to see them select players at the position with higher draft picks.
Post-draft outlook
The Rams discussed the price to trade into the top 10 at the start of the draft and looked into trading back from No. 19, but they quickly decided to stay patient as the board fell with a unique opening run on offensive players.
In doing so, they spent picks on specific priorities, continued to build their identity along the defensive line, identified a true complement to lead running back Williams in Blake Corum and shored up depth in other areas with later picks.
April 27, 2024 at 12:22 am #150460In reply to: round 3, pick 83, Rams take RB Blake Corum
znModeratorHEIGHT5’ 8’’WEIGHT205 lbsARM28 7/8’’HAND9’’.By Lance ZierleinOverviewCompact runner with average size, outstanding contact balance and a rare talent for finding and fitting into small crevices for short-yardage conversions and touchdowns. Corum is a bit of a one-speed runner lacking sizzle and wiggle but gets it downhill with timing and finishes runs with good forward lean. He has the hard-hat mentality to handle heavy workloads and can exploit defenses that fatigue or miss their run fits. The talent doesn’t stand out on its own, but he’s strong, competitive and team-oriented with exceptional football character. He can catch it when needed and is above average in picking up the blitz, which could earn him status as a three-down backup with a chance to find early carries as an RB2/3.
Strengths
- Exceptional production over the last two years.
- Feels lane development and works toward the opening.
- Hits the run north-south when it’s time to go.
- Absorbs second-level contact with impressive balance
- Quick to process and sidestep early penetration.
- Able to add yards after catch out of the backfield.
- Steps up and challenges linebackers in blitz pickup.
Weaknesses
- Just 12 of his last 45 rush touchdowns went for more than 5 yards.
- Creativity on the second level is just average.
- Slow to reignite acceleration when gathering and slowing feet.
- Gets impatient and will rush block development.
- Wears down defenses with volume rather than power.
April 26, 2024 at 9:02 am #150351In reply to: Rams 1st pick (19) is Jared Verse
znModerator19. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
- Grade: A
The Rams needed to find a way to upgrade their pass rush in the wake of Aaron Donald’s retirement and with Murphy off the board, they had to go outside linebacker for Chris Shula’s defense, getting a nice complement to their second-year rising star, Byron Young. Verse should remain productive right away in their scheme.
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from https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/nfl-draft-picks-grades-and-analysis
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19. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State
Rang: While Aaron Donald’s retirement certainly created a massive hole in the middle of the Rams’ defense, there isn’t a player in this draft (or many others) as gifted as the future Hall of Famer. Adding juice to the Rams’ pass rush on the outside makes perfect sense, especially when they play the run as passionately and effectively as Verse. Powerful and intense, Verse brings talent and leadership to a defense looking for some stars to step up.…
19. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Verse, DE, Florida State – Grade: B+
Things sure fell into place nicely for Los Angeles as it looks to reconfigure its pass rush after Aaron Donald’s retirement. Verse isn’t the most pliable threat off the edge, but he ticks almost every other box for a player who will create consistent havoc for opposing quarterbacks. With Verse, Kobie Turner and Byron Young, the Rams have several long-term building blocks one year after it looked like the defense was devoid of any outside of Donald.
…from https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-first-round-picks
R1 (19) LOS ANGELES RAMS: ED JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE
Pick Grade: Very Good
The Rams desperately needed edge help, and they select arguably the best power rusher in the class. Verse burst onto the scene over the past two years at Florida State, ranking second among Power Five edge rushers in pass-rush win rate. The Rams use their highest selection since 2016 to reset their pass rush after Aaron Donald‘s retirement.
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from https://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades_1.php
Los Angeles Rams: Jared Verse, DE, Florida State – B- Grade
It has to be disappointing for the Rams that they couldn’t get Byron Murphy. It makes sense though that they would target a front-seven player because their offense is so explosive. I’m not crazy about this pick because Jared Verse isn’t close to the other two edge rushers who were chosen earlier, yet he’s being taken so close to them. I don’t hate this pick – Verse likely belonged in the 20s – but it’s a bit underwhelming for a team that hadn’t drafted in the first round since 2016.
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from https://theathletic.com/5436808/2024/04/25/nfl-draft-grades-2024-round-1/
19. Los Angeles Rams: Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State
The Rams lost Aaron Donald, one of the greatest defensive linemen in NFL history, and needed to find some way to replace him. Verse likely won’t equal what Donald brought (nor would anyone else), but he was a nice choice for a team that hadn’t made a first-round pick since 2016. Chop Robinson might be more explosive with a higher upside, but Verse was more productive in college.
A workmanlike technician with a motor, Verse (6-4, 254) became an All-American after beginning his career at Albany as a no-star recruit. He played three seasons in the FCS (including one as a redshirt), then transferred to Florida State and posted back-to-back nine-sack seasons. Although he may not wow observers physically, Verse boasts one of this class’ top work ethics, which will serve him well in the NFL.
Grade: B
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19. Rams: Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
Grade: B+The Rams patiently wait and end up with one of the best pass rushers in this draft. This fills a major need and will help compensate for the loss of Aaron Donald on the inside.
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from https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/25/2024-nfl-draft-first-round-pick-grades
19. Los Angeles Rams | Jared Verse, Edge, Florida State
Rookie contract: Four years, $14.9 millionAfter three years with the Albany Great Danes, Verse transferred to the Seminoles and was excellent in Tallahassee. Over two seasons with Florida State, he posted nine sacks in each campaign while totaling 29.5 tackles for loss.
At 6’4″ and 254 pounds, Verse has ideal size for an edge rusher. Look for his athleticism to be a huge part of his game early before adding moves to his pass-rushing arsenal.
Grade: A-
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March 29, 2024 at 7:34 pm #150144In reply to: new thread: Rams draft after AD retired
znModeratorBlaine Grisak @bgrisakTSTHaason Reddick to the Jets for a conditional 2026 3rd round pick. Really wanted him to go the Rams. Seems clear that they’re going to be patient and see how their pieces shake out. With Reddick no longer available, feels like it’s definite EDGE at 19 for the Rams.February 28, 2024 at 10:55 pm #149592In reply to: Rams 2024 Free Agency and Draft
znModeratorTop Takeaways from GM Les Snead’s NFL Combine Week press conference: Latest on Coleman Shelton and Kevin Dotson, backup QB spot and more
Stu Jackson
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – Rams general manager Les Snead held a video conference with reporters Wednesday afternoon to provide an update on the team’s plans for free agency and the 2024 NFL Draft.
Here are some of the key takeaways from that conversation:
Les Snead talks latest on Kevin Dotson and Coleman Shelton, team’s plans for 2024 free agency and NFL Draft
The Rams have been in “constant communication” with offensive lineman Kevin Dotson and Coleman Shelton’s respective camps, but both are expected to hit the free market.
That’s not necessarily a bad thing – Snead mentioned doing so would help both sides find a number that makes sense.
Snead said that Shelton decided to void his last year, which means he’s scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent.
“I would say most players get to this point where, ‘Okay, the season’s over,’ they’re in the last year of their contract, there is a side of the process where, to help figure it out the market, is somewhat go to the marketplace,” Snead said. “And sometimes you gotta be patient in this process, which I do think is very healthy and productive for both sides. Because if you try to do something beforehand, it’s really just probably the Rams side. But when you go to the market, then it’s 31 other teams involved, and then you can use it to come up with a win-win.”
With Dotson, Snead said it’s “probably going to go into the window, at a minimum” – referring to the period of March 11 at 9 a.m. pacific time to March 13 at 12:59:59 p.m. pacific time, when teams are allowed to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with, the certified agents of players who will become unrestricted free agents at the start of the new league year (1 p.m. PT on March 13).
Rams have had discussions with Noteboom and his reps about “win-win” financial situation to return
Snead said the Rams have had discussions with offensive lineman Joe Noteboom and his reps to “try to figure out a win-win” financial situation to come back.
“Just because he’s been a valuable piece for us in terms of whether he’s been a starter, but let’s call it a really good sixth man,” Snead said, pointing out that Noteboom played both tackle spots and guard at different times last season.
Viable backup quarterback remains a need
After head coach Sean McVay last week said the team doesn’t have a backup quarterback on the roster, Snead on Wednesday said they want to make sure they have a quarterback who can win them a game if they ever have to play one without starter Matthew Stafford.
Snead indicated the flexibility provided by the Rams’ cap space this year will give them the opportunity to sign one, unlike last year. He said not having one “did come back to hurt us definitely one game last year,” alluding to their game against the Packers before the bye week.
“I think this year, different than last year based on salary cap, could allow us to maybe do a veteran QB,” Snead said. “Doesn’t mean you don’t go with a younger QB as a third, or does he earn the (number) two (spot), but that flexibility with the cap does allow us to do that.”
Higbee had knee surgery
Snead confirmed Higbee has had surgery to repair the knee injury he sustained in the Rams’ wild-card playoff game against the Lions, but said the timeline for his return is still undetermined.
January 27, 2024 at 6:02 pm #149076In reply to: replacing Morris
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Aaron Donald has his ‘fingers crossed’ this coach gets the defensive coordinator job
It looks as though the Rams veteran defensive tackle wants a familiar face to replace Raheem Morris as DCBy JasonDalessandro on January 25, 2024 11:42 pm
Photo by Ryan Kang/Getty Images
The Los Angeles Rams will need to find a new defensive coordinator after Raheem Morris was hired as the new head coach for the Atlanta Falcons on Thursday. While there are plenty of options, whether in-house or on the open market, one of the Rams most important players has seemed to make it clear who he hopes gets the position.LA’s veteran superstar Aaron Donald posted to his instagram stories – first with a picture of Morris and champagne glasses cheering – followed by a picture of his previous defensive line coach Eric Henderson with “fingers crossed” emoji, implying that he would like to see his former position coach back as Morris’ successor.
Henderson left the Rams coaching staff a little over a week ago when he was promoted to USC co-defensive coordinator, however that was before the Rams defensive coordinator job became available. The former Rams coach joined Sean McVay’s staff in 2019, and in addition to shaping the defensive line, he also took over as the run game coordinator in 2021.
It remains to be seen if Henderson would have even been considered for the position if he hadn’t left, or for that matter, if he would now even consider coming back so soon after committing to USC.
From the Rams perspective though, when the best player on the team has an endorsement for someone, it may be beneficial to listen up. This could be even more important when taking into account that Donald is heading into a contract year, and may be looking for a reason to sign another extension with Los Angeles over retirement. While Super Bowl trophies are always the main goal, making Donald happy with the new defensive coordinator choice could go a long way in contract negotiations as well.
To Henderson’s credit, he is still a relatively young coach at only 41, and was a very successful coach in his time with LA. If he were to be considered for the position of DC, it would be completely warranted, even without Donald pushing for it.
Henderson leaving for USC felt like a big loss on the coaching staff, and Morris will most-likely be take a few more coaches with him to Atlanta too, so bringing Henderson back as the defensive coordinator could be just the right move to help keep some resemblance of continuity for the Rams staff, while still ushering in a new era.
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January 23, 2024 at 11:41 pm #148991
ZooeyModeratorI don’t know if this belongs here, either. Is this devoted to news, or is analysis welcome? If this belongs in a different thread, then by all means, move it.
The marvelous Jourdan Rodrigue on off-season priorities.
Five Rams’ offseason priorities — OL investment, tough conversations — and one big question
By Jourdan Rodrigue
Jan 23, 2024The Rams are currently in the after-action review of a 2023 season during which they overachieved relative to the experience level of their roster, and outside expectations.
Ten wins, a narrow wild-card loss, an offense that got back into the top 10 in the NFL and the emergence of a strong rookie class — not bad, right?
They did it by going back to some of their fundamentals as coaches and executives. General manager Les Snead preached discipline from last offseason into the trade deadline, where the Rams had previously spent big capital (money and draft picks), and his scouting and personnel departments were patient and intentional about the players they selected in the draft and veteran free agency.
The 2024 season, it seems, is set up to reward them for that discipline. They will have around $40 million in workable cap space (estimations vary up until the new league year) and will wipe most of their dead money off the books. They’ll have their first-round pick and a full slate underneath it. Some of their top players are heading into only the second or third years on their initial contracts. But success is not a given. How can the Rams avoid regression in 2024?
“From this point forward, a lot of messaging will be, ‘OK, you got to this point and you’ll just move forward next year,’” Snead said. “What we do know is, we can reason that next year is gonna be different. We’ll be a different team. We’re not gonna be able to just show up and hop back on the train and be in rhythm. That took a lot of work. And I think the thing that we can do — what you can apply from this year — is, last year we really said ‘let’s come in every day and try to do something every day so that the collective can play quality football.’ We never talked about having more points than the other team, just quality football.
“The lesson would be not to come in and think, ‘OK, now this is what we do, and now we’ll have 11 wins over 10 (wins).’”
Setting the table in the offseason is all-important. Here are five priorities:
1. Continued investment in the offensive line
The moves the Rams made along their offensive line in the draft and via trade — plus a scheme change in their run game — paid dividends. Rookie Steve Avila will start for them at left guard for a long time. Left tackle Alaric Jackson, an undrafted free agent, got better as the season progressed. Coleman Shelton was consistently solid at center. Right guard Kevin Dotson, whom the Rams traded for in August, was one of the top guards in the NFL in 2023 and paired very well with Avila. Right tackle Rob Havenstein is still the veteran and captain of the group. They also invested in a four-person coaching staff, from position coach Ryan Wendell to assistants Zak Kromer and Nick Jones, and consultant Mike Munchak.
Jackson is a restricted free agent, so subject to a tender. Shelton is an unrestricted free agent, as is Dotson. Snead indicated that at least trying to re-sign Dotson is a goal of the Rams this spring, but he will have a competitive market.
“I would bet that he’ll definitely have a marketplace, for sure, people are gonna want him to come play football for them — we’re one of those teams,” said Snead, adding that the process could take some time. “… But I can say, too, agents will call (and) we’ll start engineering and designing kind of a blueprint, more of a timeline of communication so that each step of the way they know where we stand.”
The Rams may need a right guard, or a center, or both. Even if they are able to keep Dotson, continuing to add for the future along the offensive line is important and should be a priority for a team that learned the hard way in 2022 what could happen if multiple linemen got hurt at once.
It’s important to remember that just because the Rams have resources again, it doesn’t mean they will burn through them all or over-extend their long-term financial plans in the case of a competitive contract discussion. Both Snead and coach Sean McVay have reiterated this point through the start of the offseason. Don’t be surprised if the Rams aren’t splashy in the early days and weeks of free agency.
2. Re-invest resources into 2 premier positions and 1 ‘abnormal’ position
The Rams historically have viewed a couple of positions as “premier,” meaning they are comfortable putting a lot of financial resources and/or draft capital there whether the player was developed in-house or acquired in a trade: outside linebacker/pass rush, quarterback, cornerback and, in very rare cases, receiver (Cooper Kupp, who was also a homegrown player).
In 2023, they stayed young and/or financially disciplined at those spots, particularly pass rusher and cornerback. Rookie Byron Young emerged as a starting outside linebacker with a bright future. Elsewhere, there are clear holes to fill. The Rams badly need another pass rusher on the outside and this year could afford to go the “veteran at the end of first contract/free agent” route for the right player. It could be argued that they need two cornerbacks, too. They have had success with a “pay one, draft and develop the other” strategy with their outside corners.
One position outside their typical team-building model that could merit a rare contract extension is inside linebacker. Ernest Jones has emerged as a team captain and core leader of the defense. Jones is entering the final year of his contract.
“Obviously he’s someone who is a very important part of that defense for many reasons, definitely the leader of the defense,” Snead said of the 2021 third-round draft pick. “In the past, obviously we’ve been invested in some other positions. But I think as we evolve, and as teams evolve, there are times where you may be less invested at a certain position than you were in the past and one of your better players is an inside linebacker. So, he’s definitely someone we’ll discuss and definitely someone we’d like to have around.”
3. Have the hard conversation about future at offensive skill positions
The Rams got great production from their three offensive skill spots in 2023 from a combination of veterans and young players (even if one, tight end, was more blocking-centric in a re-invented run scheme). Still, significant injuries at running back, receiver and tight end should give reason to deeply evaluate all of those positions, and continue to invest in them.
At running back, second-team All Pro Kyren Williams missed four games to an ankle injury. Williams was a legitimate star for the Rams in 2023, should be again in 2024 and his presence on the field made a huge difference in their overall production:
Rams offense: With and without Kyren WilliamsACTIVE OFF THE FIELD/REST EPA/Play+0.159-0.153Success Rate47.8%38.4%Ronnie Rivers and Royce Freeman were capable backups to Williams but Rivers also missed time with an injury. The Rams have continuously supplemented this position via the middle to later rounds of the draft. Williams is deservedly their lead rusher, but because the position is not one they have financially invested in since 2018, continuing to draft and develop a year or two in advance may be important. This might mean picking up a young running back every offseason — that has certainly been their pattern over the last few years.
Meanwhile, tight end is a question after veteran Tyler Higbee tore his ACL and MCL from a low hit by Detroit safety Kerby Joseph in the wild-card loss. Higbee will miss spring workouts and could potentially even miss a chunk of training camp. The only other healthy tight end with any game experience — who is not a free agent in 2024 — is Davis Allen, a rookie in 2023 who showed a lot of promise.
Finally, after his Triple Crown season in 2021, Kupp has battled multi-week injuries in 2022 (ankle) and 2023 (hamstring, ankle). Rookie Puka Nacua emerged as the No. 1 receiver even when Kupp returned to the field after missing the first four games. Kupp and the Rams need a healthy 2024, and he still holds a crucial role for the offense on and off the field — but the Rams also have to keep filling out this room in light of his injury issues, Nacua’s physical style of play and No. 4 receiver Tutu Atwell entering a contract year.
4. Continue draft momentum
This is obvious, sure — but if the Rams can bring in a second consecutive solid draft class in 2024, they’ll have even more financial flexibility over the next three to five years. A cheap, talented roster core compiled from strong drafts in succession means the freedom to take big swings at high-value positions, and even the potential to extend homegrown talent when the time comes. It also means critical depth even if the roster eventually gets top-heavy again!
5. Patience in filling potential staff openings
Defensive coordinator Raheem Morris reportedly has second interviews this week with the Atlanta Falcons, Carolina Panthers, Washington Commanders and Seattle Seahawks for their head coaching positions. The Rams’ executives, many current and former players, McVay and even opposing coaches such as Kyle Shanahan have all made strong and public endorsements over the last several weeks for Morris to get one of those positions. McVay has noted that he would “hate” to lose Morris, one of his best friends as well as a colleague who often takes on a “co-head coach” role.
Defensive line coach Eric Henderson accepted a position as the defensive line coach/co-defensive coordinator at USC shortly after the Rams’ season ended.
Meanwhile, pass game coordinator/quarterbacks coach Zac Robinson will reportedly interview with the New England Patriots, Pittsburgh Steelers and Las Vegas Raiders for their open offensive coordinator jobs, while tight ends coach Nick Caley will also interview with the Patriots for the OC job.
McVay took his time when filling his coaching staff last offseason, and said last week he hoped for continuity (though recognized some would have opportunities for advancement elsewhere). He’ll wait until he knows whether Morris is getting a head coaching job before filling the defensive line coach opening, though mentioned young assistant A.C. Carter as an in-house possibility. If Robinson gets a job, in-house candidates to replace him could include K.J. Black and/or Jake Peetz.
The Rams’ staff played a crucial role in the sound development of their rookie class and even many of their second-year players. McVay remaining patient and casting a wide net if he has to replace anybody is important.
One big question
Do the Rams draft a quarterback this year?
CALM DOWN, people. This is not a suggestion to replace Matthew Stafford in 2024, after a remarkable 2023 season and the expectation he’ll again have a clean bill of health heading into the offseason. The Rams seemed to study a successful blueprint — Seattle’s 2021 offseason — when embarking on their sprint-rebuild of 2023. It’s fair to wonder if they’ll study another (and very familiar) one in the Green Bay Packers, who identified quarterback Jordan Love as a late first-round pick in 2020, and sat him for a couple years behind a veteran star. Coaching, patience and quarterback skill level have all married together and Love is now the future at the position in Green Bay, and growing alongside a young team that won’t incur large cap space in the next couple of years.
The Rams don’t have a clear backup quarterback, with Carson Wentz scheduled to be a free agent and uncertainty over whether Stetson Bennett will return from the non-football/illness list. Bennett was drafted in the fourth round last spring with solidifying the long-term backup spot in mind.
The Rams are committed to Stafford in 2024, and he to them. As long as he’s feeling good, their offense is in great shape. If he’s this healthy for a consecutive season, it would even be logical to have the conversation about him playing into his very late 30s. But is this the year they start thinking about what happens after that?
January 20, 2024 at 2:53 pm #148902In reply to: setting up the Division Playoff games
znModeratorNFL playoff predictions: 9 coaches, executives predict divisional-round winners
Jeff Howe
Anyone hoping the wild-card weekend might offer more than a single competitive game throughout the three-day slate was disappointed. Not only had five of the six games been decided by multiple possessions, but all the blowouts were also practically decided at some point in the third quarter.
Here’s hoping for a little more drama in the divisional round.For the second week in a row, we’ve assembled a crew of nine team executives and coaches from around the NFL to weigh in on the playoff games. Last week, they combined to correctly call four of the six outcomes, missing the Green Bay Packers’ upset of the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans’ latest impressive performance against the Cleveland Browns.
Some fascinating storylines are taking shape this week. At quarterback, Lamar Jackson, C.J. Stroud and Jordan Love are trying to win their second career playoff games, and No. 1 picks Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield are continuing to try to fortify their standing with their new-ish teams. Then, in the weekend finale, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are gearing up for their third playoff installment, with Allen trying to get the Buffalo Bills on the board in the budding rivalry.
There’s a contrast in settings, too. The Saturday slate features a couple of home atmospheres, Baltimore and San Francisco, that are a bit more accustomed to postseason success, whereas the energy Sunday in Detroit and Buffalo will continue to play a prominent role in the weekend’s theatrics.
No. 1 Baltimore Ravens (13-4) vs. No. 4 Houston Texans (10-7, 1-0)
Kickoff: 4:30 p.m. ET, SaturdayExpert picks: Ravens 9, Texans 0
Fear not, Texans fans. No one from the panel picked them to beat the Browns, either.
Of course, the Ravens are a more daunting opponent. The AFC’s top seed has won six consecutive games started by Jackson, the favorite to win the MVP Award next month. But for Jackson to improve upon his 1-3 playoff record, he will likely have to be more efficient as a passer. Jackson has completed less than 60 percent of his passes in all three postseason defeats, and the Ravens have averaged 10.7 points in those outings.
And though the Ravens allowed the fewest points in the league this season, they also had top-three defenses during the three prior seasons when they reached the playoffs with Jackson.It’s simply a matter of translating that success to the playoffs, where the Ravens have one win in nine years.
“They can dominate all three phases and proved it throughout the regular season with a tough schedule,” an executive said.
The Ravens went 6-3 this season against teams that made the playoffs (two losses to the Pittsburgh Steelers), including a 3-0 mark against teams still standing. They beat the Texans 25-9 in Week 1.
“That’s who I see winning the AFC,” the executive added on the Ravens.
The Stroud effect is real, though. The NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year favorite has been outstanding in back-to-back win-or-go-home games, completing 36 of 47 passes for 538 yards, five touchdowns and no interceptions.
Plus, edge rushers Jonathan Greenard (12 1/2 sacks) and Will Anderson (eight sacks, including one in the playoffs) have been a formidable duo. It’s a different challenge containing Jackson, but defensive-minded head coach DeMeco Ryans will surely have something creative up his sleeve for the veteran QB.
It just might not be enough.
“The Ravens are the overall better team,” a coach said. “But I think it will be a good game.”
The outcome might be determined by the best player on the field.
“Lamar is playing too well, and the defense will get to the rookie QB,” an executive said.
No. 1 San Francisco 49ers (12-5) vs. No. 7 Green Bay Packers (10-8, 1-0)
Kickoff: 8:15 p.m. ET, SaturdayExpert picks: 49ers 9, Packers 0
Sticking with the Saturday theme, can a first-year starting QB keep up the magic against a No. 1 seed? And just like last week, the Packers didn’t get a single panelist to pick them to win.
That’ll be the test for Love, but his best friend of late has been running back Aaron Jones, who has 476 rushing yards during the team’s four-game winning streak. The Packers’ disciplined, run-heavy game plan exposed the Cowboys, and head coach Matt LaFleur was patient enough to stick with it. Love consistently operated on schedule and made several elite throws to keep the Cowboys off-balance.They’ll need a similar approach against the 49ers, who have allowed 4.1 yards per carry, just a tick better than the Cowboys.
“No QB should be as confident as Jordan Love is going into the weekend,” an executive said. “He’s playing lights out right now, and that offense is rolling. Green Bay should be excited about the future with how much young talent is on that roster. I expect a good battle this weekend but ultimately see the Niners’ run game and front seven taking over to win. Green Bay is still suspect on defense, and I have my doubts they will be able to control the game at any point.”‘
The 49ers figure to be a more challenging test than the Cowboys for two reasons. They’re far more dedicated to their running game with Christian McCaffrey, and the 49ers are viewed as a more disciplined team. They might not be as likely to succumb to the mistakes the Cowboys made to cater to the upset.
“(The game) will be closer than people think,” an executive said. “The 49ers’ run game and playmakers will be the difference.”
Added another coach: “The (Niners) defense will eliminate big plays and make (the Packers) drive on them.”
The 49ers have won two games in each of the last two postseasons, so they’re experienced. They were also potentially a Brock Purdy injury away from a Super Bowl rematch with the Kansas City Chiefs a year ago.
Though the Packers’ youth is impressive, that’s come out of necessity. They had $67 million in dead cap space this season, the fourth most in the league, so they needed big production out of players on rookie contracts.
That might just be too much to ask against a potential juggernaut in San Francisco.
No. 3 Detroit Lions (12-5, 1-0) vs. No. 4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-8, 1-0)
Kickoff: 3 p.m. ET, SundayExpert picks: Lions 8, Buccaneers 1
If you’re of a certain age and watched a lot of football before the turn of the century, the idea of a Lions-Bucs game to determine an NFC Championship Game participant might have rattled your week.
But here we are.
“I went back and forth (with my pick),” an executive said. “I ultimately picked Detroit because they’re the more complete team and have home-field advantage. I am curious to see how Goff plays this weekend because I do think Tampa can get pressure on him. And historically, when you can get hits on Goff, you can get him out of rhythm.”
The Lions have been preparing for this stage all season, and the Bucs have exceeded expectations. The visitors have won six of seven, and they’ve been victorious in their past three road games.
“The Bucs are hot, but the Lions have a good, balanced offense that should help keep Tampa’s defense honest.”
The Lions have gone 7-2 at Ford Field this season, including the playoff opener against the Los Angeles Rams last weekend.
“Home field will matter,” an executive said. “And Goff will outperform Baker.”
No. 2 Buffalo Bills (11-6, 1-0) vs. No. 3 Kansas City Chiefs (11-6, 1-0)
Kickoff: 6:30 p.m. ET, SundayExpert picks: Bills 8, Chiefs 1
Allen has been viewed as one of the NFL’s best quarterbacks for the past four years, but he needs to get over the Mahomes hump in the playoffs. The Chiefs beat the Bills in the 2020 and 2021 postseasons, but the Bills are finally getting a crack at them in Buffalo.
What’s more, the Bills are the league’s hottest team with six consecutive victories. This is a far cry from a year ago when they were heading in the wrong direction as the playoffs started.“(The Bills) are a little beat up from the Pittsburgh game, but I think Allen seals the deal this weekend,” an executive said. “He’s balling right now.”
Based on recent performance, it’s hard to argue against the Bills’ chances, but their injuries across the board are a concern. So, too, is Mahomes in the playoffs, and he might be increasingly motivated after the Chiefs have been written off more than usual due to the rash of mistakes from the skill players.
“(The Bills are) rolling at the right time, playing better football than Kansas City down the stretch, (and that) will continue,” a coach said.
The lone voter who took the Chiefs essentially called it a coin toss. Both teams have high ceilings, but it’s been tough to predict how they’ll perform any given week. The lopsided nature of the picks is surely indicative of the Chiefs’ struggles this season.
The Chiefs defense might not be getting enough attention in the clash between two high-profile quarterbacks. Kansas City has allowed 20 or fewer points in six consecutive games, and it has surrendered more than 21 points just twice all season.
The Bills beat the Chiefs 20-17 in Week 14 at Arrowhead.
“The Bills finally get it done (in the playoffs) versus Kansas City,” an executive said.
December 12, 2023 at 11:41 am #147472Topic: Question for zn/zooey
in forum The Public House
nittany ramModeratorWhen you give your students writing assignments, how do you know they are not using AI to do the work?
My wife is a physician. She was playing around with an AI app and asked it to write a hand-out on a specific medical issue geared towards Spanish-speaking patients. She said what the app produced was perfect. She would write emails to colleagues and before sending them she would ask the app to ‘fix’ them (ie. fix grammatical errors, make the tone less or more formal, etc) and in moments it was done. She eventually stopped using the app because she said the wording didn’t really sound like her after modification, but if you weren’t familiar with her style you’d never know it was written by AI.
I suppose if you were familiar with a student’s writing, you could tell if they started using AI, but what if you weren’t? How would you ever know? I know there are computer programs that detect plagiarism, but I don’t know how you would detect this, especially if the student is savvy enough to go through what the AI produced and fix anything that seemed ‘off’.
December 4, 2023 at 8:10 pm #147264Topic: around the league going into week 14
in forum The Rams Huddle
znModeratorBruce Irons@BruceIronsNFLThe #Packers “got lucky” that Brett Favre “ended up good.”Then they “got lucky” that Aaron Rodgers “fell in their laps.”
Now they’re “lucky” that Jordan Love is playing good.
Wrong.
This is a franchise that has prioritized QB appropriately.
Ever since they brought in a traditional GM leadership model in 1991, they made an intentional decision to think long-term at the most important position in the game.
They are patient with their players. They let coaching systems mature. They take the necessary time and resources to ensure stability for long-term competitiveness.
That’s not luck.
November 17, 2023 at 9:46 am #146814In reply to: Rams sign Wentz
Billy_TParticipantWentz: “…”And so I just didn’t feel like God had closed that door, so I’ve been kind of just patiently waiting and staying ready…” I was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player. w v
Good one, WV.
I think sometimes it’s legit, though. Of course, we’re on the outside looking in, so we don’t really know.
Ramsey, for instance, was considered a bit of a coach-killer and poor locker-room guy before the Rams traded for him. From publicly available reports, he became a great locker-room presence, a real team-leader, and as important off the field as on it.
OBJ was kinda in that range too.
November 16, 2023 at 12:29 pm #146791In reply to: Rams sign Wentz
wvParticipantWentz: “…”And so I just didn’t feel like God had closed that door, so I’ve been kind of just patiently waiting and staying ready…”
I was always told, when God closes one door….you should listen to your handlers, and market yourself as a new-improved, team-player.
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October 19, 2023 at 1:51 am #146285
znModeratorSpeaking of that, what are your thoughts on the defensive backs? I was worried going into the season, but it appears they’re playing pretty well, all things considered.
They are ahead of schedule, and this makes this season far more interesting and entertaining than any of the usual rebuilding years we’ve suffered. I don’t recall a recent season without realistic hope of a SB appearance that had more appeal than this season does. Gotta go back to 99
BT, I see your blocked post, but it looks like you pretty much covered it in your last post about Hoecht. Which I agree w/ btw, I don’t see him as lasting at LB.
In terms of the secondary, the Rams have done so well picking safeties low in the draft that it’s no surprise there (meaning just safety). Think about it–they’ve scored on Scott, Fuller, and now Yeast and Lake. That’s basically 4 in a row. What surprised me was corner. That’s mostly because of Witherspoon and now maybe Shelley too (Durant has been up and down). I keep not know what to think of Kendrick. Either way, the safeties plus at least Witherspoon seem to actually be the real deal. Right now after 6 games and having played both the Eagles and 9ers, Rams rank 7th in the league at “NFL Team Opponent Average Team Passer Rating.” You can’t do that unless your secondary is good. In fact they’re doing that while being 29th in “Sack Percentage.”
With the secondary, it’s coaching and drafting and the players and everything. They’re just playing well overall (though we’ve seen the bloopers too). Not “stars of the league” well, just pretty darn well, which is very satisfying.
Zooey, I think you hit the nail on the head about this season and put it really well. Best season I can remember where you went in not expecting them to be in a superbowl hunt. The only game I really would complain about is the Bengals game. This year, we were set up to be patient with anything good that showed up being gravy, and it turns out they dumped us in an olympic pool full of gravy.
October 11, 2023 at 2:46 pm #146074In reply to: Jefferson traded
Billy_TParticipant. Two Seconds and two Thirds. Gone. It’s really difficult to team-build when that keeps happening.
Interestingly, the only player still on the Eagles roster from their 2020 draft is Hurts.
ZN, I responded to this earlier, but it was lost in the filter. Probably due to a link.
Will see if this gets through without it.
I don’t follow the Iggles, but when I checked, it looked like three players from the 2020 draft are on the active roster, and one is on injured reserve. So four made it through, total.
To me, though, the point is that the Rams, at least recently, seem to give up on their draft picks early on, even before their first contract expires. And, typically, they either cut them outright or get very little in trade.
In short, I think they need to do a bit better on team-building, drafting, maximizing trade value, etc. I like their coaching, and think it’s an area of strength overall. But I also think McVay can get impatient, and make impetuous decisions about this or that player. Jourdan has mentioned that they reflect at times on this and admit some errors . . . which is a good sign.
Hoping for the best, as always.
September 26, 2023 at 12:14 pm #145675In reply to: reactions to the Rams @Bengals game
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams inexplicably went away from the offensive formula that worked so well against Seattle and SF. In those games they stuck with their new power running game, even though it wasn’t always working. They were patient.
Against the Bengals they were impatient They pressed. Even though going into the game Cincy had not been good against the run, they wouldn’t stick with it – especially in the RZ.
Then lineman started getting hurt and it was game over.
znModeratorMcVay said he always felt like he had to call the perfect play every down because Goff couldn’t make adjustments off script. It was more about QB experience than attitude. McVay never questioned Goff’s willingness to do what was asked of him, just his ability to do it.
I don’t think that was the issue. I thought that the issue was McV getting openly, publicly critical of Goff in the worst ways–and I don’t mean constructive criticism, I mean dismissive, angry stuff. On the sidelines, in front of the team, and so on. I think he got impatient with Goff’s development. One former Rams offensive coach said that McV knew how to tear Goff down, not how to build him back up. It became a confidence issue for Goff. In Detroit, he has a rapport with his coordinator and they communicate. McVay himself said that communication was an issue with Goff. Natually McV respects the much more veteran Stafford so those issues don’t come up.
I don’t know what it is with Akers. Now sure what that story is yet. So I don’t have any speculations about it.
August 27, 2023 at 8:27 pm #145047In reply to: all reactions to Denver game
znModeratorYeah, i dunno what to think of Bennett. Has McVay ever developed a young QB, and not then screwed them up? I mean, he developed Goff, but then, ya know. w v
Depends on whether you attribute Kirk Cousins’ development to McVay being the Washington OC. That could also go to the head coach, Jay Gruden. Gruden became the HC in 2014, and that;s the year Cousins emerges as a starter.
We know about Goff. McV clearly got impatient with him and didn’t handle that well, starting in 2019.
August 8, 2023 at 11:22 pm #144791In reply to: McVay. Including the pivot interview.
znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/08/rams-roster-sean-mcvay-patience-young-players/
McVay is trying to be as patient as he can, enjoying each day of practice and work he gets with his players.
“I think the patience is an important thing. I’m not a very patient guy, but hopefully I’ll continue to be a little bit more patient,” McVay told Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports. “But we’re going to compete. We’re going to continue to strain and I think it’s going to be a really fun group to watch the way that these guys compete and hopefully continue to get better every single day, every single week when you guys are seeing us playing these games that count. Man, I’m just enjoying it and it is a blessing.”
July 4, 2023 at 6:13 pm #144527In reply to: old issue–Goff & McVay
znModeratorAs folks know, I always defended the Stafford trade because Stafford was/is the real deal as a qb. And he aligned better with McV than Goff did, and when that’s the case if you can fix it you do so.
But I also defended Goff as a player. As I’ve said before a few times, what happened in 2019/2020 was that he lost confidence under McV, who–to put it very bluntly–did not know how to coach him. Obviously McV knows the Xs and Os but the was impatient with his younger, developing qb and chipped at his confidence. Why did this have an effect in 2019/20 and not before? Because before Goff had a direct hands-on qb coach and not someone who just had the title. Starting in 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach.
I have some backing on this “theory” that comes from good articles on Goff, including the one above. One is from Thiry after the trade. Thiry, unlike anyone else covering the Rams at the time, actually consulted former Rams coaches on the trade and the lead-up to it. Some typical bits from that:
But as the 2019 season progressed without the desired results, McVay began to coach Goff more directly and their dynamic began to slowly unravel. “Sean got more involved, was tougher on Jared and didn’t realize that he wasn’t building him back up,” a league source said. Goff complained to others about McVay and vice versa. The two wouldn’t sit down often enough to hammer the issues out….
For Goff, it became increasingly difficult how often his coach took aim at him — whether on the sideline, in meetings or the practice field….“Sean lost touch with how much he was breaking Jared down, but there’s got to be the build back up,” a league source said. “[McVay] was either unaware or disinterested in protecting Jared’s confidence.”
Now we Pompei’s article above on Goff in Detroit, where they built things around their new qb and worked on making him confident.
First, Zac Taylor, the former Rams coach who is now the Bengals head coach, knew the Lions now offensive coordinator, Johnson, and Taylor told his friend that he didn’t buy the negative stuff on Goff that surrounded the qb in 2019/20. Remember, Taylor was Goff’s qb coach in 2018. His last top year as a Rams qb. I strongly suspect Taylor was the “league source” who told Thiry that McV tore JG’s confidence down without knowing how to build it back up.
Taylor [addressed] the negativity surrounding Goff, telling Johnson he didn’t buy into it.
Things improved for Goff in Detroit when Johnson took over as the OC, and it worked because the 2 were collaborative–something not true of how McV handled Goff in 2019/20.
By then, Johnson and Campbell had established an offensive foundation of formations and terminology. The rest of the offense would be Johnson’s baby, and he handed it to Goff to cradle.
In about 24 hours over the three days, Johnson and Goff sat in a meeting room surrounded by whiteboards. They watched Rams video of Goff from 2019 and 2020, talked, took notes and drew plays with dry-erase markers. On the first day, they focused on Goff’s favorite pass and run concepts. The second day was devoted to Rams plays Johnson didn’t completely understand. And on the final day, they brainstormed new directions to take the Lions offense and ways to build on what Goff had already mastered….
Goff says one of Johnson’s best qualities is how he listens. “I know anything I say to him will be taken pretty seriously,” Goff says. “He really values my opinion and cares about what I’m saying. That’s huge for a quarterback.”
Johnson’s trust in Goff is evident not just in what he says in interviews but what he says on the sidelines. Goff has significant autonomy at the line of scrimmage, more than most quarterbacks and more than he ever had previously. In the Lions’ “Auto” package, Goff reads the defense and chooses from as many as five plays.
This was all designed to build and then take advantage of JG’s confidence.
As many know, after the trade I always said McV would work better with Stafford than he did with Goff because the veteran qb had played longer in the league than McV had coached in it. It was always going to be a collaborative relationship, with McV listening more with Stafford than he would with Goff. In 2020, McV was frustrated with Goff (and let it show) because JG was not adapting well to the offense McV was pushing. In Detroit, under Johnson, they did the exact opposite. The core of the offense was built around what Goff did best and liked most. The offense was built around HIM, instead of what McV did, which was try to build the offense a certain way and then get frustrated with JG when JG couldn’t keep up.
I think that’s a weakness of McV’s as a coach (ie. his impatience) but then all coaches have weaknesses, so I am not “slamming” McV–some marriages just don’t work. McV, at the time anyway, was just going to be more impatient with Goff than he would ever have been or ever will be with Stafford.
June 30, 2023 at 8:29 pm #144505
znModeratorWe all knew the Rams had a bill that was coming due. Their approach was fun but you cant ignore picks and the cap forever. It's just shocking how fast it all came apart. Now the climb back starts. https://t.co/957zV22uVx
— Frank Schwab (@YahooSchwab) June 26, 2023
2023 NFL Preview: ‘Boring’ Rams take foot off the gas after awful Super Bowl defense
Frank Schwab
NFL/betting writer
Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 5:21 AM PDT·11 min readIf the Los Angeles Rams didn’t win a Super Bowl two seasons ago, everything would look calamitous about now.
The Rams finished a horrendous 5-12 last season. The Rams had to deal with another retirement tease from coach Sean McVay, though McVay stayed again. They traded star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins and got very little back. The Rams signed two outside veteran free agents: backup quarterback Brett Rypien on a one-year, $1.08 million deal, and then in June they added receiver Demarcus Robinson for one year and $1.165 million. Los Angeles didn’t have the draft picks to replenish the roster, unless a lot of third-day picks hit. Time seems to be ticking on how long Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald will be around, too.
The offseason was so bad, COO Kevin Demoff had to send an open letter to season ticket holders in late March, reassuring them they expected to still compete for a playoff spot but explaining that the team knew it would have to “pull back on our typical approach to help continue our sustained run of success.” That meant instead of their usual splashy trades and lavish signings, they would hold onto draft picks and get the salary cap in order. That’s why the Rams have an astonishing $72.2 million in dead cap space this year.
Going into the offseason general manager Les Snead called what the Rams had to go through a “remodel” and not a rebuild. He acknowledged, via the Los Angeles Daily News, the Rams would have to “not press the gas as much, pay a little bit of the debt that we’ve accumulated.”
“We’re the ‘boring’ Rams this year,” Snead said, via The Athletic.
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It doesn’t have to take long for NFL teams to rebuild. If you hear that a team has set itself back a decade, you can ignore it. That’s two, maybe three, lifetimes in the NFL these days. Demoff’s letter to season ticket holders pointed out that the Super Bowl-winning team had 19 starters that didn’t start in the Rams’ Super Bowl loss three years prior. Things can change, good or bad, in a hurry. The Rams know that well.That doesn’t mean a “remodel” will be easy, or that 2023 will show many signs of progress. The Rams didn’t totally tear it down when they traded Ramsey, but it seems like they’re holding onto the past by not moving Stafford, Donald or Cooper Kupp. They have a full load of draft picks in 2024 including their first-rounder after a patient offseason. Maybe they should have dove in and traded anything of value, perhaps entering the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye sweepstakes. There was probably too much pride for that.
A rough couple years are coming but you can’t erase Feb. 12, 2022, when the Rams beat the Cincinnati Bengals for the Lombardi Trophy. The many experts who want to dunk on their all-in approach seem to forget that. That will be remembered a lot longer than the Rams’ record these few seasons as they regroup. However, whenever the list of bad seasons for defending Super Bowl champions is brought up, the 2022 Rams will be the first one mentioned.
The Rams were dreadful. It didn’t look that bad before the bye, when they were 3-3 with losses to the Buffalo Bills, Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers. Those were three of the best teams in the NFL. After that it was painful. They lost six straight after the bye. They did have a ridiculous comeback win against the Las Vegas Raiders with Baker Mayfield playing quarterback a couple days after he was signed, and a blowout of a Denver Broncos team that was having an even more awful season than the Rams. But those were rare highlights.
They lost Stafford, Kupp and Donald to season-ending injuries. The Rams built a top-heavy roster and those injuries made their lineup look like it was the preseason. Their 12 losses was the most for a defending Super Bowl champion, beating the record of the 1999 Broncos who went 6-10 after John Elway retired. McVay, who contemplated retirement after the Super Bowl too, looked miserable most of the season and it sounded like he was going to step away. Then he suddenly said he’d be back.
That’s the first step back for the Rams. McVay and Snead are excellent at their jobs. Maybe Stafford, with growing health concerns, won’t be around much longer. Donald, on a short list of candidates for greatest defensive player ever, has considered retirement too. But there should be faith in the Rams’ brass to fix things quickly.
McVay and Snead are practically starting over. We’ve seen their approach in chasing a championship, and that hyper-aggressive strategy might not work with a total rebuild. We’ll see if the Rams can drive in the slow lane for a while.
Offseason grade
What does life in the NFL look like if you keep kicking your cap issues down the road? The Rams’ free-agent class this offseason is backup quarterback Brett Rypien and receiver Demarcus Robinson. That’s it. Meanwhile, these are among the players they lost in free agency, cuts or trades: cornerback Jalen Ramsey, edge rusher Leonard Floyd, receiver Allen Robinson II, punter Riley Dixon, kicker Matt Gay, safeties Taylor Rapp and Nick Scott, linebacker Bobby Wagner, defensive linemen A’Shawn Robinson and Greg Gaines, and quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and John Wolford. The Rams did get back tight end Hunter Long (one career reception for eight yards) from the Dolphins in the Ramsey trade along with a third-round pick. That’s not getting anyone excited. The draft was all about quantity. The Rams didn’t have a first-round pick. Guard Steve Avila, at No. 36 overall, was their first pick. Edge rusher Byron Young and defensive tackle Kobie Turner were third-round picks. Quarterback Stetson Bennett was a curious pick in the fourth. The Rams had 14 picks but 10 came in the fifth round or later. Some of those players will contribute out of necessity, but it’s hard to rely on late-round picks to become difference makers. The Rams signed 26 undrafted free agents, a stunning number that is another indication of how thin the roster is. It was a dreadful offseason.Grade: F
Quarterback report
Matthew Stafford ended last season on injured reserve with a spinal cord contusion. Before that he had a concussion. Stafford missed eight games and wasn’t great in the nine games he played, with 10 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Not all of it was his fault. He took 29 sacks behind a beaten-up offensive line — Stafford was sacked 30 times in 17 games during the 2021 season — and it probably won’t get a lot better in 2023. Stafford has a Super Bowl ring, has made a lot of money and thrown for more than 52,000 passing yards. He also has taken 444 sacks in his career. Nobody would have blamed him if he retired. He wasn’t ready to walk away at age 35.“I felt really confident I was coming back. I feel like more people were less confident that than I was,” Stafford said in April. “But no, I was ready to go, ready to play as soon as I was cleared. And I feel great. I feel healthy. And, you know, I’m not 25. But I definitely feel good.”
Assuming Stafford is healthy, he still has the talent to be a top-10 quarterback. The bigger question is if he can play at that level with the holes in the lineup around him.
BetMGM odds breakdown
The Rams’ win total at BetMGM is 6.5. While it’s hard to completely bury any team with Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald, the under seems like the right side. The Rams probably should have been lower in these preview rankings, but there’s still some blind faith in that key group of four individuals, who could all have Hall of Fame arguments when they’re done. But the Rams could be really bad. At least they have their 2024 first-round pick.Yahoo’s fantasy take
From Yahoo’s Scott Pianowski: “Cam Akers finally asserted himself as LA’s featured back in the final third of last year, and good numbers went on the board. Over his final six starts, he produced 512 rushing yards (4.9 per carry) and scored six touchdowns, checking in as the RB3 over that cumulative period. The Rams look like a non-contender on paper and the offensive line has concerns, but Akers has little backfield competition and likely marked his territory with that late-season run. Currently priced as the RB18 in Yahoo ADP, Akers probably isn’t a home-run pick — his national ADP is cheaper — but I can at least see profit potential.”Stat to remember
One of the good stories from the 2022 Rams was Akers. After a slow start to the season, Akers was inactive for two games before the trade deadline due to “personal reasons” and there were reports that he and coach Sean McVay disagreed about his role. The Rams didn’t get a trade done and brought Akers back to the lineup. By the end of the season he was back to a workhorse role, gaining 345 yards with a 5.5-yard average in the final three games. He had three 100-yard games for a miserable offense with an offensive line in shambles. Akers, who suffered an Achilles injury in 2021 and rushed back for the team’s playoff run, went from practically being off the roster to looking like the arrow is pointing back up. It was a really strange season for Akers, but it worked out pretty well for everyone involved.Burning question
Who are the Rams’ building blocks?
Here’s a telling exercise: Figure out who is the fourth-best player on the Rams. The first three are obviously Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp and Matthew Stafford. And No. 4 is … running back Cam Akers? Tight end Tyler Higbee? Offensive tackle Rob Havenstein? Whatever the answer, it’s not good.The strategy of trading picks means that you have to hit the mid- and late-round picks you do have, and the Rams haven’t done well in that regard. The best picks the Rams have made since 2017 (when they stole Kupp in the second round) among those still on the roster, are offensive tackle Joseph Noteboom (third round, 2018), Akers (second round, 2020), receiver Van Jefferson Jr. (third round, 2020), safety Jordan Fuller (sixth round, 2020), linebacker Ernest Jones (third round, 2021) and receiver Ben Skowronek (seventh round, 2021). There’s not one top-tier starter on that list. And no 2022 rookies made a notable impact last season, even with the team looking for answers.
Had the Rams hit more picks the past few years, a rebuild would be easier. But they haven’t, and that makes the hole a lot deeper.
Best-case scenario
It’s hard to be optimistic about the Rams, but it’s also hard to look past some of the key figures from the Super Bowl team. Sean McVay is an excellent coach. Aaron Donald might still be the best player in the NFL when healthy. Cooper Kupp had one of the greatest seasons any player has ever had in 2021 and he was having another monster season in 2022 before his injury. Matthew Stafford is a capable quarterback. And maybe with better injury luck, the pieces around them contribute a lot more. It can’t be that outlandish to believe the Rams can be in playoff contention, right? The only concern is if they’re in the race before the deadline and start trading off picks again.Nightmare scenario
It’s possible, for different reasons, we’ve already seen the best of Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald and they’re all further down the back nine than we realize. We could actually be a year from a real Rams rebuild, which is scary considering they just had one miserable offseason. It’s not out of the question that the Rams could have the worst record in football if a few things go wrong, and that actually wouldn’t be the worst thing. What would be worse is if they’re really bad but also get enough wins to knock them out of position to start over with one of the top quarterback prospects in next year’s draft.The crystal ball says
The Rams will win some games. They have no depth and will be starting some players who are not ready for that role, but there will be a few games in which their stars take over. It will still be a long season for a team that isn’t far removed from a championship, but that won’t be a surprise. The Rams had to make a decision this offseason. It couldn’t have been enjoyable to admit that they needed to slow things down and retool the roster, but it was the right move.[/quote]May 3, 2023 at 12:57 pm #143988In reply to: Our Draft Reviews
znModeratorBut that’s what we get with McSnead. We get brilliance at times, mixed with proverbial head-scratchers and emotionalism.
I don’t think that’s what we get. What we get is unpredictable actions that defy the norm. The Rams have solved “cap hell” before, with much more strategic cuts and contract restructurings. In fact they consciously and deliberately made the 2023 cap situation worse by just going ahead and taking the big hit on dead money. The idea was, rather than just fix things and going back out with the roster we had, let’s just make it a young team in 2023 while creating cap space in 2024. That’s not desperation moves, that’s a plan. It’s just an unconventional plan.
I think what they did this time is just the exact opposite of trading for Ramsey during the season while off-loading Peters at the same time–but even though it’s the opposite on paper, it is still the same thing in this sense: a re-thinking of the ordinary process. This time, they went for a re-load and not the big “put us over the top” trade. It defies conventional wisdom but then so did trading for Ramsey and Stafford at the same time while taking rentals on Von Miller and Beckham.
I don’t see the reload as wrong in any way shape or form. I don’t see it as a crisis in any way shape or form. I see it as them doing what they do–which is not going to be conventional wisdom.
And they have remarkable success for a team that presumably has a lot of “head scratchers.” Only 1 losing season in 5 years and that was due to an absolutely unprecedented string of injuries, the likes of which we’ve never seen with the Rams.
In the middle of that I do see a couple of issues. So I am not playing the homer card. I criticize the Rams regularly. To me McV was impatient with Goff and hurt his confidence, but then it’s hard to argue against trading for Stafford. I didn’t like the Atwell pick in round 2, but then this draft they didn’t make that kind of mistake and it’s clear they drafted a top shelf OL who will be there for 10 years.
They didn’t have to reload in 2023 but IMO deciding to do so was very smart.
Though…it had better work… 😎
April 28, 2023 at 11:22 pm #143642In reply to: Top QBs, by Conference, According to CBS
Billy_TParticipantAnother way to go (pre-trade) might have been: Keep Goff, get him more weapons, protect him better, coach him up, and rebuild his confidence. Far less costly and better long term, IMO.
I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.
Agreed. McVay lacks patience. Brilliant coach, but impulsive and mercurial, at times. One might even say “fickle” in his football affections. But, I’m still very glad he’s the coach. Just hope he finds a way to smooth the rough edges.
He might be an excellent candidate for a Zen master to coach him up. Zazen can do wonders.
April 28, 2023 at 7:07 pm #143585In reply to: Top QBs, by Conference, According to CBS
ZooeyModeratorI think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.
George Allen.
April 28, 2023 at 6:51 pm #143584In reply to: Top QBs, by Conference, According to CBS
znModeratorAnother way to go (pre-trade) might have been: Keep Goff, get him more weapons, protect him better, coach him up, and rebuild his confidence. Far less costly and better long term, IMO.
I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.
January 24, 2023 at 9:17 pm #142739Topic: Rams tweets … 1/24 – 1/29 (including Rodrigue q & a)
in forum The Rams Huddle
znModeratorRams mailbag
Jourdan Rodrigue
1. Any clarity on coaching searches? 2. Why the sudden regression of players like Fuller, Rochell, etc. and is this why the let go of Coach Cooley? 3. Rams’ biggest needs? 4. New unis and helmet shell in 2923?
JR: 1. Yes, and no. With Mike LaFleur the front-runner for offensive coordinator, the next priority is offensive line coach, and that process is ongoing. Meanwhile, other offensive coaches (tight ends, running backs and assistant head coach Thomas Brown and quarterbacks coach/pass game coordinator Zac Robinson) are interviewing externally in a few places and the Rams are waiting for news about defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, whose interview in Indianapolis went well. So, though some spots can be filled, others are in a “wait and see” situation.
2. Safety Jordan Fuller didn’t regress — he suffered setbacks after a nasty leg injury that ended his 2021 season (and surgery). I expect him to be a full go in 2023. I don’t know that cornerback Robert Rochell regressed so much as didn’t take the next step forward in his development, but the Rams will need to see more from him.
3. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. Pass rusher. A full evaluation of keepers and depth on the offensive line (then go from there). A step forward from some younger cornerbacks and safeties. Maybe a short-yardage running back. Health.
4. In 2923? I honestly haven’t thought that far ahead.
Your thoughts on why McVay has gotten away from PA with Stafford, when his career has excelled at just that? From at least 2017 he has been near the top of the league and in DET nonetheless, where they had one of the worst run games seemingly every year.
JR:For statistical context, just 241 of quarterback Matthew Stafford’s 904 pass plays over the past two seasons were out of play-action concepts (either under center or shotgun, per TruMedia). Before Stafford and under McVay, the Rams ranked in the top five of play-action usage year over year from 2017 through 2020.
At the beginning of 2021, the Rams’ revamped passing attack blew the doors off the rest of the league through the first half of the season, as they enjoyed league-leading production in explosive passing plays and offensive production (EPA and otherwise). They did it with the near-lowest amount of play action in the NFL, and still trounced the passing stats of those using play action at the highest volume. But when Stafford’s elbow issue flared up around November of that season and the Rams were without an actual lead running back, they lost their footing and had to overhaul their entire run game midseason to get back on track.
I think there has been transparent conversation among top Rams staff and players about the importance of being able to use a variety of tools in a quarterback’s tool belt, even though that quarterback can make every throw and perhaps prefers the shotgun, empty and dropback game. McVay can be an impatient play caller, and Stafford can be an impatient quarterback. Just because Stafford can make every throw doesn’t mean dropping back is always the most efficient or highest-probability option.
Will the Rams pursue OBJ this offseason?
JR: Depending on Odell Beckham Jr.’s health and readiness to play, yes, I believe the Rams will be right back in the mix with him (especially with McVay’s sticking around). They won’t get too risky on the salary, though.
You have mentioned that Jalen Ramsey’s untouched contract could make him a movement possibility. Can you elaborate on what that means? Also, if Alaric Jackson takes the starting LT position is there trade potential in Noteboom? Maybe too risky considering the injury recency bias?
JR: When referring to star cornerback Jalen Ramsey’s contract being “untouched,” I mean teams that can maneuver and manipulate a “clean,” albeit inherited, contract themselves will automatically see that as a reason to inquire about the player, especially one of Ramsey’s status and ability. Which … could be why the Rams haven’t touched the contract yet and other core players were restructured or extended (not necessarily because they wouldn’t want to in the big picture).
I think the Rams’ best internal option at left tackle is Alaric Jackson. I also don’t think there will be a trade market for Joe Noteboom because he is coming off an Achilles repair surgery. That may mean the Rams will play him at guard because the nature of his deal makes him hard to move. Noteboom has potential — he injured his knee against Buffalo in Week 1 and played through it for the next few weeks.
Curious why we’ve never had a deep dive into the Rams OL woes. They didn’t invest wisely, devalued the OL and paid the price in 2022.
JR: Well, first of all, the entire 2022 season could aptly be named: “Look! Here are all the woes of the Rams offensive line!”
Second, the argument can be made that they extended the wrong players in Noteboom and Brian Allen, based on availability and injury history. But nobody could have predicted the compounded number of injuries within the group and in such rapid succession. Further, two players who can be long-term impact players include former undrafted free agents Jackson and Coleman Shelton (who played well in their snaps compared with the rest of the NFL’s starters). We don’t know what third-round pick Logan Bruss is capable of yet, though he projects positively and his rehab has gone well. They’ll continue to add/subtract/adjust here.
Will McVay delegate play calling in 2023?
JR: No. But when he talks about “delegation,” I don’t know that play calling is necessarily what he means. It’s more about design, idea sharing and problem solving. However, he’s been pretty reflective about what works and what habits (good or bad) he gets into as a play caller. This season will be telling of some of the personal and professional reverse-engineering he’s doing during these months.
We finally have a high pick and a clear need to bring in an edge rusher to complement AD. Is this the year we invest in the D-line in the draft or is that either used in a trade for a proven player or spent on offense again as is usually the case in the McVay era?
JR: Both. The Rams will be aggressive in exploring their options at pass rusher, inclusive of the draft and combinations of veterans and younger prolific talent either available via free agency or acquired via trade.
Could you realistically see Baker Mayfield being back with the Rams next season? And if he is, do you believe the Rams still draft a QB? I remember you mentioning you think this is the draft they take a QB.
JR: Baker Mayfield wants to be a starter, so really, it would be up to him and how his market shakes out. Backup quarterback is not a position the Rams will spend significant cap space on (though they all but shouted from the rooftops they need to upgrade their depth here), but yes, they could draft and develop a middle- or late-round quarterback.
What is the safety position going to look like next season?
JR:My best guess: Starters Fuller, Nick Scott (depending on his free-agency market). Starter Quentin Lake. Rotational safety/nickel/dime player Russ Yeast.
Over the Cap places Scott’s future contract valuation at about $3.3 million per year.
What’s the likelihood the Rams actually end up using their 2024 first-round pick wherever it ends up slotted?
JR: Ha!
Any idea what their plan is for Senior Bowl/Combine? I know they haven’t had scouts there the past few years. Plan to stick with that?
JR: Great question, and to provide a little bit of clarity on this point: The Rams don’t “prevent” their staff from going to the NFL Scouting Combine, Senior Bowl, or Shrine Bowl. Anybody who feels like they work better attending the events in-person versus receiving all of the film and data and meeting with players remotely can attend, and scouts especially do a lot of regional combines and even pro days. The scouts are also all on the road/in their areas doing deep work on prospects throughout the year. Higher-ranking executives and coaches (including Les Snead and McVay) prefer not to attend in person. For example, the Rams’ top coaches didn’t attend last year’s combine but several assistant coaches did, and of course, the most important part of the combine is the medical evaluation so the whole athletic training staff attends.
January 14, 2023 at 12:30 pm #142583
InvaderRamModeratorBut then Stafford was a better fit for McV. Stafford walked into the room demanding respect with his veteran smarts and longevity, so it was more of a case of coach and veteran qb collaborating than an impatient coach handling a young qb.
partially true. i’m not saying i disagree with that. but i think other things also played a part.
mcvay i think had committed to a 3 wr approach at that point with gurley declining. i don’t think it’s a coincidence that goff’s resurgence has coincided with a resurgence in the lions’ running game.
i do think that mcvay could eventually be that patient head coach. well. at least a more patient version compared to his 30 year old self. i think his perspective changes dramatically when he is say 50 years old compared to a couple years ago. or at least it’ll have to or i don’t think he lasts.
it’s kind of useless to argue because mcvay back then was obviously incapable of having the kind of relationship with goff where goff could keep growing as a qb. it could have just been personality. it could have been the age difference or mcvay’s immaturity. or maybe mcvay just needing to realize that deficiency in himself and having a qb coach. maybe mcvay needs his right hand man. like tony larussa had his dave duncan. but that’s also part of growing as a leader. cuz you hope mcvay wouldn’t make the same mistake at 50 years old that he did when he was 34.
January 14, 2023 at 12:04 pm #142581
znModeratorGoff and McV were not a good “marriage.” Goff did well with the Rams when he had his own dedicated qb coach. That was 2017 (Greg Olson) and 2018 (LaFleur). (Greg Olson is also responsible for Derek Carr playing well in the years he did–Olson left the Raiders in 2021, and Carr played well for him). In 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach. I think their relationship was based on McV’s impatience and the result was to weaken Goff’s confidence. What we saw in 2020 was Goff playing without confidence much of the time. In the best article on their divorce, a Rams coach is quoted as saying (anonymously) that McV knew how to tear Goff down but not how to build him up.
I think what we’re seeing in Detroit now is Goff playing with confidence, in a system that is specifically built to his strengths (and with a top notch OL).
I said all of this at the time of the trade btw but then I defended the trade. My take was, if the qb and the coach are not built for each other and the coach is winning, then, the qb will go. I don’t like the way they handled it (in fact they handled the entire trade very badly that way). But then Stafford was a better fit for McV. Stafford walked into the room demanding respect with his veteran smarts and longevity, so it was more of a case of coach and veteran qb collaborating than an impatient coach handling a young qb.
In a different way than Martz, McV is a mixed bag. He has all sorts of strengths as a coach, but they come with some pronounced liabilities. He may change, but at this stage, McV needs veterans in key positions to win. He’s not a patient team builder. By way of contrast DV was that and in fact did it twice, with the Eagles and Rams. McV inherited a team loaded with players like Gurley and Donald and Goff and did not need to “rebuild.” 6 years later there are still some pre-McV players starting for the Rams, including Donald, Higbee, and Hav.
November 23, 2022 at 5:18 pm #141803In reply to: Stafford watch
znModeratorMcVay has not shown the best people skills when handling personnel moves.
Yeah I agree. Hate to see it too. And it’s not just how he handles partings. He is impatient as a coach, better with veterans than with players who are developing.
that’s why those early to mid 1980’s Rams teams were so underrated… Defense, special teams, OL and Dickerson carried, Kemp, Dieter, Dills….. that ain’t the case with 2022 .
The OL is one of the biggest differences. In the 80s they had an OL that regularly had 2 to even 4 all pros. This OL is like old photos of civil war battlefields after the battle.
November 8, 2022 at 12:38 pm #141573In reply to: comics, jokes, one-shot memes, funny tweets, etc.
znModeratorOld joke.
It’s 3 AM. A woman paces angrily in her house waiting for her physicist husband to come home. Finally he does. As he walks through the door she glares and demands “where have you been!?” Sheepishly, the physicist husband tries to explain himself. He says, “well my colleagues and I went out just for a friendly drink. A group of women invited us to join them, so we did. We drank and had fun talking and it got a little flirty. I got swept up in the moment and one thing led to another. I ended up making out with one of the women we met.”
His wife listens impatiently, arms crossed, furiously tapping her foot the whole time. When he finishes, she blurts out “Liar! LIAR! You were in the lab again weren’t you!
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