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  • December 21, 2017 at 9:53 am #79274
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    just being against capitalism, is a problem zizek and some of us wrastle with:

    December 21, 2017 at 2:25 pm #79279
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    Sometimes I have a lot of affinities with Zizek. Though he’s not the be all and end all, and there’s no such thing as being “a zizekian.” He’s just a good voice, one to listen to among other good voices.

    One way to put what he just said is that confronting universal health care as an issue directly forces people to think about the extremes of american ideological blindness. It helps you think about the real material effects directly on your own well-being.

    It has the advantage of not being abstract. So like, hey, we should confront and end racist policies. To which a lot of whites in the mainstream can go, well okay, and since I am not racist, there’s no problem.

    If you say, you know we already know that this system does not work as well as a better one that already exists, and this system has a direct effect on your life and your children’s lives, a lot more people can get that.

    Yet, at the same time, you still have to fight the harder fight and say, this is racism and here’s what it does to people.

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    December 21, 2017 at 3:37 pm #79280
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    Well what i take from that vid is….we can have our individual meta-notions about the Utopia we want and all that, and there’s nothing wrong with thinking about that, but we have to start ‘where we are’ in the real world. So, whether we are socialists or marxists or whatever — a National single-payer health care policy would be a good thing. An important thing.

    Granted its not “the Revolution” but its still a good thing, and getting people to think about that kind of policy also gets people to think about
    the meta-issues too, only from the opposite direction. If that makes any sense.
    It gets to the Meta through the Policy analysis. Rather than the other way around.

    I suspect almost every activist wrastles with ‘reform’ vs ‘revolution’ in some way or another.

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