Kupp on the block, apparently + Titans trade E.Jones to Seattle

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October 22, 2024 at 4:34 pm #152705

Zooey
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link: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5864141/2024/10/22/cooper-kupp-rams-trade-calls-price/

The Los Angeles Rams have spoken with teams about a potential trade involving star wide receiver Cooper Kupp, league sources said.

Sources with knowledge of those conversations said the Rams indicated to them that they would be open to taking on some of Kupp’s remaining salary in 2024. Kupp’s base salary entering the season was $15 million with a cap number of $29 million. He also is due a $7.5 million roster bonus in March, according to Over the Cap, with $5 million guaranteed. Those sources added that the Rams indicated to them they were seeking a second-round pick.

Kupp, 31, is expected to return from an ankle injury this Thursday night when the Rams host the Minnesota Vikings. He has been out since suffering the injury in Week 2. Prior to the injury, Kupp had 18 catches for 147 yards and a touchdown.

While Kupp has missed time to injuries over the last three seasons, he was a key element to their Super Bowl-winning team during the 2021 season and earned the NFL’s triple crown. Much of head coach Sean McVay’s offense has typically run through Kupp.

Trade conversations began between the Rams and other teams earlier this fall, league sources said.

Tuesday afternoon, the Rams opened the 21-day practice window for second-year receiver Puka Nacua. He has been on injured reserve since Week 1, after reaggravating a knee injury suffered during training camp.

October 22, 2024 at 6:29 pm #152706

nittany ram
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It makes sense in a lot of ways but I’m gonna hate it if it happens.

October 22, 2024 at 7:01 pm #152707

Zooey
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nittany ram wrote:

It makes sense in a lot of ways but I’m gonna hate it if it happens.

Yep.

It also shows that the Rams don’t think they have any shot this season. No hope of getting the gang healthy, and making a run.

October 22, 2024 at 7:11 pm #152708

canadaram
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nittany ram wrote:

It makes sense in a lot of ways but I’m gonna hate it if it happens.

Yes, and there are several playoff contenders who seem like they might need some help at receiver. So it’s worth putting the word out there if the Rams FO doesn’t see things turning around this season. Kupp is up there with Bruce and Ellard for me so it would definitely be depressing to see him get traded.

October 22, 2024 at 9:37 pm #152710

nittany ram
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Kupp responds to trade rumors:

Cooper Kupp comments on rumors that he could be traded by Rams

October 22, 2024 at 10:35 pm #152712

zn
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October 23, 2024 at 12:38 am #152716

zn
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Rams Bros.@RamsBrothers
If Cooper Kupp is in fact on his way out — we’ve been extremely impressed by Jordan Whittington so far this season. Big slot, position versatility, understands zone vacancies, can be used in motion both as a blocker and pass catcher, really good down-field run blocker in general.

@speed_kills@speedk1lls
IMO the Rams should not trade either Kupp or Stafford. I don’t believe either rumor is true at all. Now that being said pay attention to what Schrager is saying… that will be the tale

October 23, 2024 at 10:44 am #152719

zn
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This definitely lowers the likelihood of the Chiefs trading for Cooper Kupp… https://t.co/o4x5eGOqiN

— Rams Bros. (@RamsBrothers) October 23, 2024

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Peter Schrager@PSchrags
So much for all the Cooper Kupp to Chiefs stuff Twitter ran with yesterday… this was the ace in the hole and had been discussed for quite some time.

October 23, 2024 at 1:56 pm #152721

wv
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As soon as Cooper got hurt this year, i was thinking he will be on the trading block now.

I dont think the Rams think they can count on him staying healthy down the road. Its just not a bet they wanna make, given his history and the atrocity this season has been.

He’s been awesome, of course, when he’s healthy. It would make perfect sense for a team like the 49ers or Bucs some contending team to add him this season.

I just hope the Rams dont accept a bullshit offer for him. If its not a really good deal — just keep him.

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October 23, 2024 at 5:59 pm #152722

Billy_T
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wv wrote:

I just hope the Rams dont accept a bullshit offer for him. If its not a really good deal — just keep him. w v

Agreed. Don’t give him away, like they did Ernest Jones.

For comparison sake:

The Titans traded Ernest Jones back to the NFC West – and got more than the Rams did in August

According to Brady Henderson of ESPN, the Titans are trading Jones to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for linebacker Jerome Baker and a fourth-round pick. And yes, that’s more than the Rams got for Jones less than two months ago when they shocking shipped him off to Tennessee just before the season started.

Somehow, the Titans managed to get more in return for Jones than the Rams did. In the Rams’ deal, they sent Jones and a sixth-round pick to the Titans for a fifth-rounder. It’s obviously a poor reflection on the Rams, who everyone believed should’ve gotten more for Jones but they were apparently desperate to jettison him off the roster.

Sorry if this has already been posted . . .

October 24, 2024 at 1:35 am #152729

zn
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Billy_T wrote:

Don’t give him away, like they did Ernest Jones.

Bill Barnwell@billbarnwell

Odd one. Jones was available for a swap of Day 3 picks at the end of camp, but maybe Rams didn’t want to trade him in division. Seahawks basically paying more draft capital for that and for the Titans to eat the rest of Baker’s base salary (~$1.2m)?

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me (@moi.com):

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Titans traded a starter to a team that was trying to pry him away. Rams traded an injury recovering player everyone knew they were trying to unload. Titans proved Jones could still play, and Seattle pursued him. The 2 situations were just different.

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Maybe the story here is that Seattle was willing to overpay.

October 24, 2024 at 3:57 am #152730

zn
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They get to the Rams right away.

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October 24, 2024 at 9:56 am #152732

Zooey
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zn wrote:

me (@moi.com): . Titans traded a starter to a team that was trying to pry him away. Rams traded an injury recovering player everyone knew they were trying to unload. Titans proved Jones could still play, and Seattle pursued him. The 2 situations were just different. . Maybe the story here is that Seattle was willing to overpay.

There’s another story here, imo.

Why were the Titans trading the rising star LB Ernest Jones two months after acquiring him for pennies?

October 24, 2024 at 1:40 pm #152736

InvaderRam
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zn wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

Don’t give him away, like they did Ernest Jones.

Bill Barnwell@billbarnwell

Odd one. Jones was available for a swap of Day 3 picks at the end of camp, but maybe Rams didn’t want to trade him in division. Seahawks basically paying more draft capital for that and for the Titans to eat the rest of Baker’s base salary (~$1.2m)?

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me (@moi.com):

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Titans traded a starter to a team that was trying to pry him away. Rams traded an injury recovering player everyone knew they were trying to unload. Titans proved Jones could still play, and Seattle pursued him. The 2 situations were just different.

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Maybe the story here is that Seattle was willing to overpay.

yeah. and don’t expect much for kupp.

i mean i’ll be disappointed if they trade him, but if they can save cap space, it might not be a bad idea. if no cap space can be saved, then keep him.

October 24, 2024 at 2:28 pm #152738

Zooey
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I would guess that the Rams are thinking that Nacua and Kupp are the same guy, only Kupp is a lot more expensive and breaks down a lot.

McVay may prefer a different weapon to the redundancy created with Kupp and Nacua.

I dunno. I thought they were a pretty deadly combo on the field together, and they both are capable of going over the top. So I vote No on this, but the Rams always commit voter fraud, or else “lose” my ballot when it comes to this stuff.

October 25, 2024 at 1:30 am #152759

zn
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Gary Klein@LATimesklein

McVay on whether Kupp’s performance makes Rams apt to entertain trade offers or shut it down: “I’m really glad to have Cooper Kupp back with us, and that’s what I expect to stay that way.”

October 25, 2024 at 3:53 am #152762

zn
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from The Rams Shouldn’t Be Sellers With Cooper Kupp Back in the Fold

Whether or not the veteran receiver was ever truly available, Thursday’s outburst showed that Los Angeles should see this season through with the roster as is

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https://www.si.com/nfl/rams-shouldnt-be-sellers-cooper-kupp-back-in-the-fold-vikings-

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the scoring surge that [the Rams] had Thursday might have removed Kupp from the trade market. Rams GM Les Snead needs to respond “never mind” to all the texts he probably got about Kupp during Thursday’s impressive performance that placed Los Angeles back in the NFC West race. The Rams are now 3–4, tied with the San Francisco 49ers and Arizona Cardinals for second place, and only sit one game behind the Seattle Seahawks (4–3), who host Los Angeles next week.
Sure, the counter argument is that now Snead might get a second-round pick for the 31-year-old Kupp, who had a sensational 28-yard grab on third-and-9 to help put away the Vikings in the final four minutes of regulation. But stick with me here for a second. What if Kupp was never truly on the market? As my colleague Albert Breer mentioned, the Rams simply just shared that they were receiving calls about Kupp, not that they were shopping him. So why not let the Vikings think that the Rams may or may not be ready to check out of this season after a 2–4 start?
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”There’s a lot of information. Here’s what I’ll tell you. Teams reached out,” Rams coach Sean McVay said of the trade rumors involving Kupp after the win. “Some of the things that I’ve seen out there, they’re just not true… Teams have called about him and, really, we let him know what the dialogue was there. And then there’s a lot of stuff out there where there’s not a lot of accountability to the reports and that’s unfortunate.
”I’m really glad to have have Cooper Kupp back with us and that’s what I expect to stay that way.”
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