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January 24, 2020 at 10:30 am #110661
znModeratorWill this be a good game?
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January 26, 2020 at 2:26 am #110717
TSRFParticipantI am so rooting for the Chiefs it makes the hair on my head (what is left of it) hurt.
January 26, 2020 at 3:53 pm #110728
JackPMillerParticipantI’m still doing studying the this 49ers-Cheiefs game. I’ll have my prediction by Friday.
January 27, 2020 at 6:20 pm #110770
wvParticipantLooks like a great match-up to me. Mahomes is the best offensive player in the
NFL. T.Hill is as exciting a player as there is.The 49ers have that great running game and Defense.
I go back and forth on it.
It’ll come down to the last few plays, I would think.
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vJanuary 30, 2020 at 1:39 pm #110811
nittany ramModeratorI’m just hoping for a good game.
And by good game I mean the 9ers losing by 40 pts.
January 31, 2020 at 9:00 pm #110844JackPMillerParticipantI have Andy Reid getting his first Super Bowl ring.
Chiefs 47 – 49ers 43.
February 2, 2020 at 12:59 pm #110896wvParticipantImagine the difference in perception, BY THE MEDIA, between Andy Reid winning….and losing.
If he wins — Hall of Fame coach.
If he loses — Big game Choker.I never followed Mahomes in college. But after i saw him play one game in the NFL, i could not understand why he wasnt the number one pick the year he came out. I dont get it. Why in the world did so many teams pass on him. His talent just looks UnGodly. And Obvious. Was he different in college?
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vFebruary 2, 2020 at 1:53 pm #110898znModeratorWhy in the world did so many teams pass on him. His talent just looks UnGodly. And Obvious. Was he different in college?
When he came out he was seen as this wild Air Raid offense qb who needed a lot of work. Which he got–Reid benched him for a year. So what you’re seeing is not just Mahomes, it’s Mahomes plus a redshirt year of Reid’s coaching.
Happens. Marino fell in his draft year too.
Here’s a typical description of him from his draft year:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125
WEAKNESSES Can be inconsistent in his approach. Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline. Too eager to go big game hunting. Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble. Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm. Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him. Decision making can go from good to bad in a moment’s notice. Operates from a narrow base and allows his upper body and arm to race ahead of his feet. Has a dip and wind-up in his standard release. Explosive delivery and follow-through causes some throws to sail. Needs better touch on intermediate and deep balls. Carries ball a little low in the pocket. Impatient. Will leave pocket prematurely rather than standing in and winning in rhythm. Better as a scrambler than pure runner. Looked a little less mobile in the open field this season.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1-2
SOURCES TELL US “He’s got a great arm, big balls and he’s mobile. He is going to drive his head coach crazy for the first couple of years and there is no getting around that. If it clicks for him and he’s coachable, I think he could become a special quarterback.” – NFC executive
NFL COMPARISON Jay Cutler
BOTTOM LINE Mahomes is a big, confident quarterback who brings a variety of physical tools to the party, but he’s developed some bad habits and doesn’t have a very repeatable process as a passer. Mahomes’ ability to improvise and extend plays can lead to big plays for his offense, but he will have to prove he can operate with better anticipation and be willing to take what the defense gives him in order to win from the pocket. Mahomes will be a work in progress, but he’s a high ceiling, low floor prospect.
-Lance Zierlein
February 2, 2020 at 7:03 pm #110903znModeratorNFL Research@NFLResearch
The #49ers are on the board first with a field goal.Since 2010, the team that scores first is 8-1 in the #SuperBowl.
The 2016 Falcons, who lost to the Patriots after leading 28-3 in the 3rd quarter, are the lone exception … and Kyle Shanahan was their offensive coordinator.
February 2, 2020 at 7:49 pm #110904znModeratorPete Prisco@PriscoCBS
Three rushes for 49ers backs after going for 288 last week. Be who you areBucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
There’s a reason why the @49ers have kept Jimmy G on a “pitch count” throughout the playoffs. The more he throws, the more the turnovers pop up for SF. The magic number is 30.NFL Research@NFLResearch
Jimmy Garoppolo joins Colin Kaepernick as the only #49ers quarterbacks to throw an interception in a #SuperBowl.Hall of Famers Joe Montana and Steve Young started a combined 5 Super Bowls for the 49ers and never threw an interception.
ProFootballReference@pfref
Jimmy Garoppolo now has 2 INTs on 34 passing attempts in the playoffs, a rate of 5.9%That 5.9% INT rate is more than a point higher than Jameis Winston’s NFL-leading INT% of 4.8 this year
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Jimmy G with the first turnover of #SBLIV
(via @NFL)pic.twitter.com/TOi4cKA2oM
— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) February 3, 2020
February 2, 2020 at 7:51 pm #110905znModeratorRyan Clark@Realrclark25
Don’t be confused by the TD pass. Kyle Shanahan did a masterful job protecting Jimmy G on that drive. Was run HEEEEAAAVVY & the physicality of them 49ers overwhelmed the Chiefs.Nick Wagoner@nwagoner
For #49ers Kyle Juszczyk: That was the first receiving TD by a fullback in a Super Bowl since fellow 49er William Floyd caught a 5-yd Rec TD from Steve Young in Super Bowl XXIX (1994), per
@ESPNStatsInfoSigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom
The Chiefs have the sudden change turnover, but the score is tied, the game is almost half over and their defense is on skates. Reid needs to playcall with “TD or bust” mindset from here on out
.February 2, 2020 at 8:24 pm #110906znModeratorNick Wagoner@nwagoner
QB comparison at half:#49ers Jimmy Garoppolo — 9-of-11 for 89 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 92.8 passer rating.
#Chiefs Patrick Mahomes — 12-of-18 for 104 yards, 0 TD, 0 INT, 81.7 passer rating (also has a rushing TD).
February 2, 2020 at 8:24 pm #110907znModeratorSigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom
Three things stand out most from first half:1) Kyle seemed to lose trust in Jimmy G after INT, cost team scoring opp at end of half
2) Reid playcalling isn’t giving Mahomes special abilities a chance to influence game
3) KC D can’t stop SF O
February 2, 2020 at 8:51 pm #110908znModeratorBucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
The @49ers are carving up the @Chiefs with quicks, screens and creative play-actions. Shanahan puts completions on a platter for his QB1.Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Nice INT by NO.54. The @49ers have taken away the deep ball and made No.15 play connect the dots from the pocket. Most QBs are disciplined enough to repeatedly take check-downs. That’s why defensive coaches urge their defenders to stay back and wait for the QB to force one.==
PICK!! @49ers have it!
Fred Warner comes up with the big play in the 2nd half! pic.twitter.com/0VXygeQM63
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) February 3, 2020
February 2, 2020 at 9:00 pm #110909znModeratortrey wingo@wingoz
Chiefs down double digits. FINALLY they have San Fran right where they want themFebruary 2, 2020 at 9:22 pm #110910znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
This is your 2nd-annual reminder that being a 24-year-old QB in the Super Bowl is not easy.Also your 19th reminder that this Niners’ defense is relentless.
FOX Sports: NFL@NFLonFOX
This is the first time this season Patrick Mahomes has thrown 2 interceptions in a game.Mike Sando@SandoNFL
Kyle Shanahan & ATL led NE 28-12 in SB at 9:48 4Q
Kyle Shanahan & SF lead 20-10 in SB at 9:47 4QSeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
That play right there is why I hate the 9’ers.. Jimmy running, doesn’t get out of bounds, and gets rocked. Their whole team, including Shanny, acted like he was done dirty…With 9:30 left, these entitled bitches deserve a heartbreaking loss.
February 2, 2020 at 9:36 pm #110911znModeratorDan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
First time I’ve ever seen Mahomes “feel” the rushes. On a consistent basis the rush, whether it’s getting home or not-is affecting him and his throws/feel in pocket…He’s feeling rush every snap. Whether there or not
NFL Research@NFLResearch
Patrick Mahomes has thrown multiple INT in a game for the first time since Week 11, 2018 vs the Rams, when he threw 3 INT in a 54-51 loss.His last game with multiple INT was 440 days ago.
Brett Kollmann@BrettKollmann
Eric Fisher is getting absolutely annihilated today. You cannot leave him one on one at this point.February 2, 2020 at 9:37 pm #110912znModeratorFeels like leaving Travis Kelce this wide open is a mistakepic.twitter.com/4vS1X4OP7G
— PFF (@PFF) February 3, 2020
February 2, 2020 at 9:42 pm #110913znModeratorJason Whitlock@WhitlockJason
He won’t get MVP but Bosa is the difference in this game. He’s the problem with Kansas City’s offense.February 2, 2020 at 9:44 pm #110914znModeratorThat third down incompletion under pressure – look at Kittle pic.twitter.com/ml46L0k0bq
— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) February 3, 2020
February 2, 2020 at 10:37 pm #110915znModeratorKevin Clark@bykevinclark
Mahomes being down ten points in these playoffs is the equivalent of a normal quarterback being tied.Mike Sando@SandoNFL
Opposing Tier 1 QB is common denominator for Kyle Shanahan teams losing double-digit leads in 4Qs of Super Bowls.Michael Giardi@MikeGiardi
Hell of a win by KC. Mahomes gets his first. Andy Reid gets his first. That’s gonna be one hell of a party/parade in KC.Sigmund Bloom@SigmundBloom
Shanahan not managing the clock to give Garoppolo a chance to compose a drive at the end of the first half and not going for extending the drive on 4th and 2 up 7 the real difference in this one. Kyle the reason they are there but the reason they lostNick Wagoner@nwagoner
That should do it. Williams breaks a touchdown run to make it 30-20 Chiefs with 1:12 to go. #49ers going to come up short in #SuperBowl.ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Patrick Mahomes is the youngest QB in the Super Bowl Era (since 1966) with at least 10 Pass TD in a single postseason.Brandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
Chris Jones has been a difference-maker tonight. 3 deflections (maybe more) have been huge.Gregg Rosenthal@greggrosenthal
Spags has done it againFebruary 2, 2020 at 10:39 pm #110916
InvaderRamModeratori can just take comfort in knowing that the niners are in misery.
mahomes struggled a little bit. but shoot if he isn’t the best qb in the league.
February 2, 2020 at 10:40 pm #110917znModeratorThis is the play that changed the game:
49ers D was getting to Mahomes. He looked off. They had just overturned the Hill catch bringing up 3rd and long. Pressure again, this time they burned it. pic.twitter.com/wDg4vhtUvl
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) February 3, 2020
February 3, 2020 at 2:24 am #110919znModeratorOpinion: Jimmy Garoppolo cannot deliver on biggest stage as 49ers lose to Chiefs https://t.co/hPFaSLxxC7
— Joe Curley (@vcsjoecurley) February 3, 2020
February 3, 2020 at 2:46 am #110920znModeratorFebruary 3, 2020 at 5:16 am #110921znModeratorLindsay Jones@bylindsayhjones
The Chiefs’ 21 fourth-quarter points are the most in Super Bowl history.Reuben Frank@RoobNBCS
The Chiefs are the first team to trail by 10 or more points going into the 4th quarter of a postseason game and win by 10 or more points since the 1992 Eagles vs. the Saints at the Superdome.The Eagles trailed 20-10, won 36-20.
Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAP
Records of various QBs in games trailing by 10+ in postseason:
Patrick Mahomes 3-1
Tom Brady 6-6
Peyton Manning 2-8
Ben Roethlisberger 2-8
Drew Brees 2-7
Aaron Rodgers 1-4
Brett Favre 1-4
Andrew Luck 1-4
Philip Rivers 0-4
Kurt Warner 0-4
Cam Newton 0-4
Matt Ryan 0-3February 3, 2020 at 9:07 am #110922wvParticipantMany 49er fans are blaming the playcaller:
February 3, 2020 at 9:56 am #110923znModeratorNew column: My Super Bowl recap, including how Kyle Shanahan cost the 49ers the game, just not in the way you think https://t.co/kpsgTp5KSN
— Bill Barnwell (@billbarnwell) February 3, 2020
February 3, 2020 at 10:22 am #110926znModeratorESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
The Chiefs became the first team in NFL history to win 3 games in a single postseason after trailing by 10 or more points.ESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
Patrick Mahomes finished the season 5-0 when trailing by double-digits. Per @EliasSports, that is the best single-season record by a QB in NFL history.Chris Simms@CSimmsQB
3 teams have blown 10 point 2nd half leads in Super Bowl. Common thread: they all played that cover-3 Seattle scheme. It’s more or less the same look play after play and relies on pass rush. The 3rd & 15 was KC’s version of a Seattle-beater #SuperBowlLIVProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
This is one of Simms’ salient soapbox points. Cover three works when you have the players to make it work. By fourth quarter, 49ers front four was gassed from chasing Mahomes.==
Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy says he got this play design from watching this old Rose Bowl game. Michigan ran it over & over in a 49-0 win over USC pic.twitter.com/0uGYxxUnST
— Kevin Boilard (@247KevinBoilard) February 3, 2020
February 3, 2020 at 12:11 pm #110928znModeratorKurt Warner@kurt13warner
when I think of dynasties my 1st thought is u have to have a great QB ✅ & then who else has QB to stop it? Who in the AFC is built to out duel @PatrickMahomes & Co? I’m not sure any1 is ready in terms of year after year… it’s as much about competition as team!Ross Tucker@RossTuckerNFL
Good point. Much more competition in the NFC.Right now I’d say just Baltimore depending on how Big Ben comes back from injury in PIT.
Not sure HOU, BUF, etc. get to that level.
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📽 here’s breakdown of the 2nd & 5 that’s got everyone all upset. #SuperBowlLIV pic.twitter.com/bkAvyub1Ve
— Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) February 3, 2020
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