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September 6, 2019 at 10:11 pm #104741znModerator
Think about it. One of two things has happened.
Either
a) Jon Gruden collaborated with Antonio Brown to create a guerrilla hype/marketing video for the almost-suspended-but-contrite WR
OR
b) Said WR recorded his coach begging him (sweetly I might add) to come back and play.
— Will Brinson (@WillBrinson) September 7, 2019
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If this is legit, holy crap. https://t.co/faKyfjOjjq
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) September 7, 2019
September 6, 2019 at 10:31 pm #104743InvaderRamModeratori really am wondering at this point about brown’s mental well being. much like tre mason a couple years back.
on the other hand the raiders are looking like idiots right now if this is true. whatever the case is i’m not sure brown should be playing right now.
- This reply was modified 5 years, 2 months ago by InvaderRam.
September 6, 2019 at 10:51 pm #104746znModeratorThe video doesn’t make clear whether Gruden knows he is being recorded. In California, recording a phone call without each party’s consent is illegal. But according to ESPN’s Chris Mortensen, Gruden said the video was “awesome,” so Brown may be in the clear.
September 6, 2019 at 11:00 pm #104748znModeratorChris Long@JOEL9ONE
What if AB is actually an Oliver Stone plant shooting an Any Given Sunday reboot and we’re all just unpaid extras?September 6, 2019 at 11:33 pm #104750InvaderRamModeratorseriously. i hope brown’s head is right.
as far as football. gruden just cut mayock’s balls off for the entire public to see. hope mike’s ok with that.
or actually i don’t really care cuz i hate the raiders.
September 7, 2019 at 12:17 am #104753znModeratorgruden just cut mayock’s balls off for the entire public to see.
Evan Silva@evansilva
Jon Gruden is a cartoon character at this point.And was exceptionally quick to throw under the bus Mike Mayock, a legit respected football man & Bill Parcells/Belichick offshoot in a soul-selling exchange for a team-sabotaging player.
You hate to see it.
Justin M@JustinM_NFL
AB could take a shit on Gruden’s desk and he’d smile and say, “man, that AB’s a character. Awesome.”September 7, 2019 at 9:16 am #104761InvaderRamModeratorwell. this morning brown has asked to be released.
i really hope this guy is ok. at this point you gotta worry if he needs some kind of help.
September 7, 2019 at 9:18 am #104762InvaderRamModeratoroh and now gruden looks like an idiot.
oh dear.
September 7, 2019 at 9:43 am #104763InvaderRamModeratorapparently, he got fined again, and a significant portion of his guarantees are now out the window. that would explain things.
September 7, 2019 at 9:53 am #104764znModeratorpparently, he got fined again, and a significant portion of his guarantees are now out the window. that would explain things.
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
By fining Antonio Brown $215,073.53 last night for conduct detrimental to the team on Sept. 4, the Raiders voided the $29.125 million worth of guaranteed money in his deal, per league sources. The Raiders sent Brown a letter that he no longer will be entitled to termination pay if they release him, per sources.This could help explain why Brown is now asking the Raiders for his release.
Jeff Darlington@JeffDarlington
I just got an email from Antonio Brown. He tells me the team “took away my guarantees.” He added there’s “no way I play after they took that and made my contract week to week.” So at this moment, once again, don’t expect AB to play on Monday Night Football.Joel Corry@corryjoel
The good faith effort & written notice requirement to try to invalidate a termination pay claim has been in the CBA for years. I don’t recall a team taking this action. Base salary is guaranteed through termination pay for vested veterans on 53-man roster for 1st game.Sam Monson@PFF_Sam
Gruden from that phone call is everybody: “please stop this shit and just play football? How hard is that?”Judy Battista@judybattista
Can I finish my coffee before we start this up today?Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
Brown would not get anything remotely close to his Raiders contract if released. I’m sure @RosenhausSports has told him this, but does he care?Jason Cole@JasonCole62
Jon Gruden is backed into a corner. His justification for getting rid of Khalil Mack was that Mack supposedly didn’t want to be there (which was a lie). Now AB is openly saying he doesn’t want to be there. If Gruden keeps AB, Gruden becomes a joke to the players.Every single time we think this Antonio Brown drama is over… pic.twitter.com/DjahK57nHG
— Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) September 7, 2019
September 7, 2019 at 12:20 pm #104766InvaderRamModeratorwell now he’s been released. eligible to sign with anyone later today.
September 7, 2019 at 12:39 pm #104768znModeratorwell now he’s been released. eligible to sign with anyone later today.
trey wingo@wingoz
Don’t think for a second that another team won’t sign @AB84. He’s that good and everyone always thinks “ yeah but I can fix him”Sam Monson@PFF_Sam
If you include fines, Antonio Brown actually paid Oakland almost $300k during his time there.Dude didn’t just flush away monster millions, but it actually cost him hundreds of thousands to do it.
Albert Breer@AlbertBreer
Agent Drew Rosenhaus on client Antonio Brown, via text: “Now that Antonio is a free agent, we are focused on the future and I will immediately work on signing him to a new team. Antonio is looking forward to a new beginning.”Andy Benoit@Andy_Benoit
As bad as it gets for the @Raiders. They can’t even say they finally drew the line with AB….they didn’t release him until he publicly demanded it.Chris Long@JOEL9ONE
Players used to sit on wooden stools and answer generic football questions for the local news. Antonio Brown wiretaps his coach and produces an artistic short film on his personal YouTube channel. This shit escalated quickly.Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
On the $30M that was voided, agent Drew Rosenhaus says he’s looking into all his options but isn’t being specific because “it might be a legal situation.” An indication WR Antonio Brown will contest Oakland’s finding.==
From @gmfb Weekend: Why was former #Raiders WR Antonio Brown so upset? pic.twitter.com/VCGv6VPlB2
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 7, 2019
September 7, 2019 at 12:46 pm #104769InvaderRamModeratortrey wingo@wingoz
Don’t think for a second that another team won’t sign @AB84. He’s that good and everyone always thinks “ yeah but I can fix him”i’m sure someone will sign him.
i don’t know that they give him 50 million guaranteed.
September 7, 2019 at 1:43 pm #104771nittany ramModeratorI could see AB in Seattle or San Fran.
Not sure if that would be good or bad for the Rams.
September 7, 2019 at 1:48 pm #104772AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 7, 2019 at 2:00 pm #104775InvaderRamModeratorNot sure if that would be good or bad for the Rams.
i think it’s a virtual coin flip.
September 7, 2019 at 5:11 pm #104777znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Antonio Brown and the Patriots reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth up $15 million that includes a $9 million signing bonus, per source.September 7, 2019 at 5:12 pm #104778joemadParticipantCrazy….
September 7, 2019 at 5:30 pm #104780AgamemnonParticipantFind this article at:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001051723/article/that-was-quick-antonio-brown-signing-with-patriots
That was quick: Antonio Brown signing with PatriotsBy Grant Gordon NFL.com
Published: Sept. 7, 2019 at 05:01 p.m.
Updated: Sept. 7, 2019 at 05:19 p.m.One crazy Saturday for Antonio Brown and the NFL continues.
Brown has agreed to a deal with the New England Patriots on the same day he was released by the Oakland Raiders, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport and NFL Network’s MJ Acosta reported, per a source.
The deal is for one-year, $15 million, Rapoport reported, with a $9 million signing bonus.
Brown cannot play in the Patriots’ season opener on Sunday night against the Steelers because he was not on the roster by 4 p.m. EST, but he will be eligible to debut with his new team — his third in less than a calendar year — in Week 2 against the host Miami Dolphins.
September 7, 2019 at 5:34 pm #104781AgamemnonParticipantSeptember 7, 2019 at 5:54 pm #104782InvaderRamModeratorhmmm…
i hate the pats.
September 7, 2019 at 6:22 pm #104784Billy_TParticipantI knew the Pats were gonna sign him. Belichek is one of the few coaches who might be able to tame the diva in AB, and Brady should love him — as long as he focuses on the game. Who knows? But I made the mistake of drafting him for my FFL league . . . and now I’m in a pickle. How can I root for him to have a great game when he plays for the Pats!!
;>)
I also drafted Cooks, Kupp, Woods and Gurley, so I guess it all balances out. Quite the homer, I!!
September 7, 2019 at 8:07 pm #104787wvParticipantI cant stand, Gruden.
I cant stand Antonio Brown.
I cant stand the Raiders.
And, I cant stand the Patriots.So, i cant find anything to care about here.
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vSeptember 10, 2019 at 11:44 pm #104937InvaderRamModeratorwell now it’s gone from embarrassing to seriously criminal.
brown’s former trainer is coming forward accusing him of raping her.
https://deadspin.com/lawsuit-antonio-brown-raped-former-trainer-1838026970
September 20, 2019 at 10:30 am #105334znModeratorReport: Antonio Brown harasses latest accuser via text message
Antonio Brown may have crossed the line, as far as the NFL and the Patriots are concerned.
Robert Klemko of SI.com reports that Brown has sent harassing text messages to the unnamed accuser who shared allegations with Klemko regarding Brown’s behavior after Brown hired her to paint a mural at his house.
“I’m on my knees painting the [mural], and he walks up to me butt-ass naked, with a hand cloth covering his [penis] and starts having a conversation with me,” the woman told Klemko. “Unfortunately, I’ve been tried [by men] a lot of times, so I just kept my cool and kept painting. After that, it all ended abruptly.”
Brown reportedly has sent a group text message to the woman, accusing her of fabricating a “bull sh-t” story in an effort to “make up some stuff for money.” He also called her a “super broke girl with a lot of kids,” and he encouraged someone to whom Brown refers as “Eric B” to investigate her in order to “see how broke this girl is.”Brown also sent a screen shot of an Instagram photo of the woman’s children, adding that the woman is “awfully broke clearly.”
On Thursday night, the woman’s lawyer sent a letter to the NFL explaining that Brown is “intimidating and threatening . . . our client, in violation of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.”“Our client . . . is understandably frightened by these text messages, which are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate her,” attorney Lisa J. Banks wrote. “While she certainly qualifies as a ‘starving artist,’ she has never approached Mr. Brown, nor will she, about seeking money to compensate her for his sexual misconduct, contrary to his allegations in the text messages.”
Amazingly, Brown’s lawyer was included in the group texts. Darren Heitner tells Klemko that Heitner did not advise Brown to communicate with the woman.
The league responded to the letter within an hour. Investigators will speak to the woman’s lawyers about the situation.“This sort of intimidation and harassment is the reason victims are often so reluctant to step forward in these cases,” Banks told Klemko. “We have confidence the NFL and the Patriots will step in and end this behavior.”
The Personal Conduct Policy expressly prohibits “talking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation.” The fact that the behavior has been directed at a woman who has made allegations regarding misconduct makes the situation even worse for Brown. Employers routinely take swift and decisive action against employees who are accused of misconduct and who harass or intimidate those who have made the accusations.
The Patriots, who like any NFL team wouldn’t have signed Brown if they’d known about the sexual assault and rape lawsuit that was filed last week, likewise have not been inclined to terminate the relationship based solely on uncorroborated allegations in a civil action. If Brown sent these messages to a woman who chimed in with her own allegations of misconduct by Brown, that gives the Patriots a much more tangible basis for severing ties with Brown.
Regardless of what the Patriots do, the league can take action against Brown. The aggressive and angry response directed to an accuser could be enough, for example, to cause the Commissioner to believe that Brown “may have violated” the Personal Conduct Policy as to Britney Taylor, justifying immediate placement of Brown on the Commissioner-Exempt list.
However it plays out, Brown apparently has committed yet another serious error of judgment, one that has placed his current employment in real jeopardy.
September 20, 2019 at 12:03 pm #105335nittany ramModeratorReport: Antonio Brown harasses latest accuser via text message
Antonio Brown may have crossed the line, as far as the NFL and the Patriots are concerned.
Robert Klemko of SI.com reports that Brown has sent harassing text messages to the unnamed accuser who shared allegations with Klemko regarding Brown’s behavior after Brown hired her to paint a mural at his house.
“I’m on my knees painting the [mural], and he walks up to me butt-ass naked, with a hand cloth covering his [penis] and starts having a conversation with me,” the woman told Klemko. “Unfortunately, I’ve been tried [by men] a lot of times, so I just kept my cool and kept painting. After that, it all ended abruptly.”
Brown reportedly has sent a group text message to the woman, accusing her of fabricating a “bull sh-t” story in an effort to “make up some stuff for money.” He also called her a “super broke girl with a lot of kids,” and he encouraged someone to whom Brown refers as “Eric B” to investigate her in order to “see how broke this girl is.”Brown also sent a screen shot of an Instagram photo of the woman’s children, adding that the woman is “awfully broke clearly.”
On Thursday night, the woman’s lawyer sent a letter to the NFL explaining that Brown is “intimidating and threatening . . . our client, in violation of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.”“Our client . . . is understandably frightened by these text messages, which are clearly intended to threaten and intimidate her,” attorney Lisa J. Banks wrote. “While she certainly qualifies as a ‘starving artist,’ she has never approached Mr. Brown, nor will she, about seeking money to compensate her for his sexual misconduct, contrary to his allegations in the text messages.”
Amazingly, Brown’s lawyer was included in the group texts. Darren Heitner tells Klemko that Heitner did not advise Brown to communicate with the woman.
The league responded to the letter within an hour. Investigators will speak to the woman’s lawyers about the situation.“This sort of intimidation and harassment is the reason victims are often so reluctant to step forward in these cases,” Banks told Klemko. “We have confidence the NFL and the Patriots will step in and end this behavior.”
The Personal Conduct Policy expressly prohibits “talking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation.” The fact that the behavior has been directed at a woman who has made allegations regarding misconduct makes the situation even worse for Brown. Employers routinely take swift and decisive action against employees who are accused of misconduct and who harass or intimidate those who have made the accusations.
The Patriots, who like any NFL team wouldn’t have signed Brown if they’d known about the sexual assault and rape lawsuit that was filed last week, likewise have not been inclined to terminate the relationship based solely on uncorroborated allegations in a civil action. If Brown sent these messages to a woman who chimed in with her own allegations of misconduct by Brown, that gives the Patriots a much more tangible basis for severing ties with Brown.
Regardless of what the Patriots do, the league can take action against Brown. The aggressive and angry response directed to an accuser could be enough, for example, to cause the Commissioner to believe that Brown “may have violated” the Personal Conduct Policy as to Britney Taylor, justifying immediate placement of Brown on the Commissioner-Exempt list.
However it plays out, Brown apparently has committed yet another serious error of judgment, one that has placed his current employment in real jeopardy.
Brown unabashedly harassed this women via group text – he even included the victim’s lawyer in the group.
He has the arrogance of someone who believes they are untouchable. Gotti/Trump level arrogance.
But in his case he’s also delusional because he can be touched. I hope the league suspends him.
September 20, 2019 at 1:32 pm #105337wvParticipantI thought it was eyebrow-raising when Tom Brady went out of his way to say he was ALL-In on signing Brown.
Mr red-white-and-blue is all-in on…Antonio Brown. Just thot it was inter estin.
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