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ZooeyModeratorMatt Gay learns from the Rams’ PR department that he is not a player.
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— Matt Gay đ± (@MGtweetymonster) January 10, 2023
ZooeyModeratorMan, I dunno what to expect next year. I just dont know. w v
Well, a lot of that will depend upon how good they are.
ZooeyModeratorAgree on the Williams call.
Agree on the Ramsey call. Ramsey was holding his ground. He did lean into the collision, but he has a right to the ground. In basketball, that would have been “charging.” IMO.
The roughing the punter call changed the game. I would rather have knocked out Seattle, and given the Lions a spot, but that’s that. Good thing that game didn’t determine the Rams’ playoff berth.
I look forward to next year.
And also talking about Aaroon Rodgers for the next 2 months. And Tom Brady. And Sean McVay.
ZooeyModeratorWell, all of a sudden Sean Payton and Vic Fangio to LA is suddenly on the map and probably feels most likely if Sean McVay does step away.
Gonna be a looooooong offseason.
— Sosa Kremenjas (@QBsMVP) January 8, 2023
ZooeyModeratorWhy people are hating on Andrew Tate.
Side issue: I hate on people who use “hate” as an intransitive verb. I’m not sure where that came from, but it’s horrible, and I hate on it.
Also, I never heard of Andrew Tate before this happened, but it makes me happy. Karma sometimes naps on the job, and it’s satisfying to see it in action.
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ZooeyModeratorBut he has not proved to be an unselfish, good, Leader, over time. And if you listen close to his interviews, you can see the hints of selfishness. He said something about âshowcasing his talentâ recently.  Thats not something i want my QB to think about. Its not a team-first mentality.
There is reason to be wary. He’s more talented than most QBs, but he’s not proven he can do the homework, or lead a team. I think it was zn who compared him to Jeff George. Too selfish, and too reliant on raw talent and bravado.
ZooeyModeratorWho among us hasnât had a few stents, ammirite? (Glad your well. This was a bit startling, as Iâm sure it was for you.) Merry Christmas.
Well it helped that I live with an RN. We caught it very early. I had chest pains, and they werenât awful, just concerning, and it came with shortness of breath. She took a look at me, stethoscope and all, and then called 911 without even asking or announcing it. Just boom, call, ambulence, with her saying âbe sure and take your phone and charger to the hospital honeyâ before I had said a word (âhospital??â) The dead giveaway was when the EMS guys in the ambulence gave me nitro and the pain immediately went away. That could only mean one thing. Nitro opens up arteries, so that means the pain was from blockage. At the hospital they tested me, none of it too arduous or painful, then they scheduled me for surgery and put in a stent. The stay wasnât too badâI had a good book with me (âStation 11â). People say I hope you have a good recovery but honestly itâs not like that, thereâs no recovery per seâyou donât want to run a marathon quite yet but day to day is just normal, itâs more like replacing a sparkplug than repairing a damaged engine. And here I babble on. Have you had a stent? Who else has had a stent? Merry Christmas.
I have never had a stint put in my chest. That’s totally an old person thing. I am still young and vibrant, and if I put in just a year or so of training, I’m confident that I could build up to running a mile in less than ten minutes. So I’m not participating yet in this Death’s Door stuff. And I know you aren’t either, but you just damn well stepped on the porch.
Just stop it with that shit. I don’t like it.
ZooeyModeratorWho among us hasn’t had a few stents, ammirite?
(Glad your well. This was a bit startling, as I’m sure it was for you.)
Merry Christmas.
ZooeyModeratorWell, merry christmas anyway. We’ll have some egg nog for you when you come home.
ZooeyModeratorJust heard Skowronek and Allen out for the season.
Kupp, Robinson, Skowronek, and Harris.
4WRs and 7 OL out for the year. Never seen anything like it.
ZooeyModeratorI’m sorry to hear that, zn.
ZooeyModeratorWell, I expect the Rams to implode Monday Night. Cant see a way to victory in this one. Iâm just hoping for a decent first quarter. Maybe the defense can do something. w v
You going to be wearing your Geno Smith jersey while you watch the game?
December 13, 2022 at 9:06 pm in reply to: Left-Wing Voices Are Silenced on Twitter as Far-Right Trolls Advise Elon Musk #142151
ZooeyModeratorElon Musk Is Everything Thatâs Wrong With the Media
The great rolling fiasco that is Elon Muskâs acquisition of Twitter got boiled down into a tidy pop-culture parable this weekend. As Dave Chappelle, the comedy worldâs most prominent foe of all things woke, called Musk up to the stage at Chase Center in San Francisco, the Twitter titan was treated to a prolonged, lusty chorus of boos from the crowd. Footage from the show only erratically remained on Muskâs vanity platform the next day, and Musk himself suggested that heâd inspired â90% cheers and 10% boosâ onstageâa falsehood so flagrant that it got âBoo-urns,â a 27-year-old Simpsons joke, trending on the site. For good measure, Muskâwhoâd also recently tweeted that something known as the âwoke mind virusâ was seeking to exert total control over civilization in a struggle in which ânothing else mattersââsuggested that heâd âoffended SFâs unhinged leftists,â without accounting for just why this offense-taking demographic would turn out in full force for a Dave Chappelle show.
The episode drove home just how much Muskâs self-ballyhooed takeover of the microblogging outlet is a protracted study in flop-sweat failure. As formerly banned hate merchants of the right stream back onto the site, and advertisers abscond en masse, Musk is left flogging the same wearisome tropes of culture-war exclusion into a yawning void of audience indifference, now verging on all-out hostility. His latest obsession is relentlessly promoting the content-challenged âTwitter Filesââa trove of documents from the regime of Twitter founder Jack Dorsey now selectively released into the tender care of pet journalists Matt Taibbi and Bari Weiss. Whatâs touted as a searing study in ideological censorship and âshadow banningâ stands exposed instead as garden-variety content moderation, notable mostly for staidness and bureaucratic jargon. And, inconveniently, the actually existing record of message-boosting on the platform skews strongly and consistently rightward, as the corps of allegedly Maoist Comstocks and bluenoses directing things on Doresyâs watch readily conceded.
In short, Musk-era Twitter reprises longstanding maladies of the media industry in Americaâits chronic vulnerability to the vanity and whim of the right-wing ownership caste and its pronounced structural bias toward monopoly control. Prone to buckle under the keening choruses of aggrieved ideological messaging from the right, the media industry is acutely sensitive to the refrain that it represents a premier source and outlet of lefty agitprop. Itâs a surreal discursive template that has guided media debate for nearly half a century, particularly jarring given that the true complexion of an ad-driven, cartelized culture combine is all but designed to lend undue weight to the economic and ideological agendas of the right. But Elon Musk is, in nearly every sense, its logical culmination.
To make sense of the Musk moment, says Siva Vaidyanathan, professor of media studies at the University of Virginia, âyou have to go to the fact that for the past decade his run has been so lucky that heâs convinced himself he can do no wrong. No amount of evidence is going to shift that position. Heâs too calcifiedâŠ. The dude has baked his brain. He seems incapable of subtle or complex thought, so what heâs seeing is a total projection. On a whim he signed a piece of paper agreeing to buy this company for $44 billion. So once he gets into the office, he sees just how bad this company is, and he sees thereâs no way out of it. He looked at the books and thought, âI might as well try everything, and have fun while Iâm at it.â Well, fun to a guy like Elon is cruelty and chaos.â
Thatâs the problem of entrusting a premier medium of public discourse to the whim of an obscenely wealthy mogul whoâs just bored and gullible enough to acquire it in the hopes of making it over in his own image. âThe whole Internet economy is controlled by five or six companies,â says Robert McChesney, emeritus communications professor at the University of Illinois and author of Digital Disconnect: How Capitalism Is Turning the Internet Against Democracy. âThey can just print money and they can buy up everything else. Twitter isnât Facebook, Google, or Microsoft, but itâs in that class of virtual monopolies. Itâs a communications medium in a more exact way than newspapers are. Itâs much more like the post office or a telephone company.â
That means, among other things, that extreme ideological directives of the type Musk has now routinely embedded in Twitterâs business model canât be simply shrugged off as one more regrettable operating cost for a laissez-faire regime in the marketplace of ideas, McChesney argues. âTwitter is differentâitâs what you might call a selective mass medium. Here the claim that an owner has the right to intervene in its operations, it would be like youâre discussing a country with one newspaper. Weâve seen countries like that, and itâs safe to say thatâs not what you want in a democracy. For telecommunications devices, as with a post office, thereâs no justification for an intervention for the ownerâs agenda. Itâs bad enough that theyâre pushing an economic agenda down your throat, but to have an ideological one on top of that, which is what Elon Musk has already done, it compromises everything.â
For his part, Vaidyanathan says heâs ânot convinced that Twitter is a quasi-monopoly platform. It is one of a handful of online platforms that molds opinion, but that opinion tends to be concentrated in the elites. Itâs not as important or popular as Reddit, and itâs less than a tenth of the size of Facebook. Even TikTok is a much more influential platform for molding opinion, if not elite opinion.â
If thatâs the case, Twitter could break down in more conventional market terms, the way that right-leaning social media sites such as Gab, Parler, and Truth Social are each on the verge of doing. Thatâs another curious factor in the extreme ideological pivot Musk is engineering for the siteâTwitter is lunging into an end of the social media spectrum now rife with platform failures. In Vaidyanathanâs judgment, this is another reflection of Muskâs overall market-empowered nihilismâsomething that allowed Musk properties like Tesla and SpaceX to flourish as outlets with government contracting, and the Musk-owned Boring Company to attract enthusiastic public sector partners to a business model thatâs little more than a glorified scam.
This economic profile also fuels the air of mounting desperation as Musk loads one right-wing meme after another onto the site. âI donât know if heâs a true believer in, say, QAnon,â Vaidyanathan says, referencing the far-right pedophilia-obsessed conspiracy theory that Musk recently weaponized against former Twitter executive Yoel Roth. âBut in a sense thatâs immaterial. The fact is that heâs using QAnon to generate endorphins in the absence of money. Thereâs no way for Twitter to ever make money. From the moment he announced his intentions for Twitter, it was going from a slow downslope to a crash. He probably figures Twitter has a few more months left, so why not just do crazy stuff to see what works.â
In the toxic, cartelized economy of digital communications, a flamed-out and smoldering Twitter is likely a better outcome than a successful monopolized one. âIf weâre going to solve this problem,â McChesney says, âitâs not going to be by finding a nicer billionaire to buy it.â It also means weâll have to do a lot more than just boo this one offstage.
ZooeyModerator“I’m just looking to be the best version of me possible.”
~ Baker Mayfield
ZooeyModeratorVan Jefferson has caught 3 TDs this season. All three are from different QBs. Itâs also the only TD each QB has thrown for the Rams this season.
So all 3 of those QBs are better than Matthew Stafford.
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ZooeyModeratorI had this game circled before the season started.
I guess the NFL did, too.
ZooeyModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakDTRIt should be known at this point that the Ramsâ resources are limited. Using $6.5M-$10M on a backup QB instead of a guard seems like a bad use of resourcesâŠand it is an either/or situation. When you have a limited number of resources, you must get it right.Yeah. If Stafford is returning, Baker is gone.
ZooeyModeratorâAfter everything Stafford has gone through and the fact that the Rams aren’t good, the rumor is both he and McVay are going to retire at the end of this year.”
Lost me at “the Rams aren’t good.”
ZooeyModeratorHis problems come in as the games pile up and he has to actually lead and study, etc etc.
Thatâs what Colin Cowherd said.
Thatâs the thing with Mayfield. We donât know if he has changed in those terms or if he even can. I mean itâs no accident that a #1 pick qb with clearly obvious physical talent was available during the season. He could be the Rams own Jeff George. But thatâs to worry about next season. For nowâŠI look forward to the Packers game.
Looks like we all share the same perspective which dampens my hopes of a board war as we head into the holiday season.
ZooeyModeratorI respect the brutally effective cynicism. If instead of promising to buck party leadership and never back down, sheâd run on supporting Pelosi and voting party line, I canât imagine sheâd have won. The left lane was open and she took it. Now our services are no longer required. https://t.co/gpoCbmMPRT
— mousdrvr (@mousdrvr) December 10, 2022
ZooeyModeratorHis problems come in as the games pile up and he has to actually lead and study, etc etc.
That’s what Colin Cowherd said.
ZooeyModeratorThursday reminded me a bit of âFerragamo to Waddy.â Not really the same conditions and circumstances, but winning in the last minutes when it looked bleak and then pulling it out of a hat.
I think that’s a good “victory pulled out of a hat” comparison. Games that seemed lost, but where the Rams made big plays at the crucial moment.
The difference, though, is that going into the game against the Cowboys, if you were asked if the Rams could beat the Cowboys on a big play late in the game, you would say, “Yeah, that could happen.”
If you had offered me Baker Mayfield with his 17 QBR, who was with the team 2 days, a chance to win the game from the Rams’ own 2-yard line with less than 2 minutes to play, and no TOs, and a mangled WR and OL corps, I would have bet my house against it.
There is just no effing way the Rams win that game. No chance whatsoever.
This game will live with me the rest of my life. It will come up on this board 20 years from now, and everybody will instantly recall some very specific things about this game.
(And another thing about that game, though, a thing a lot of people WILL forget… Mayfield doesn’t even get that opportunity if the Rams don’t get a 3-and-out, including a stop on 3rd and 1).
ZooeyModeratorAnd interesting thots from Florio and Eisen.
ZooeyModeratorOf all the chatter I’ve encountered so far, I think I agree with Colin Cowherd’s assessment the most.
ZooeyModeratorSeriously, though, in terms of “I don’t believe what I just saw,” the only game that comes to mind is the 1979 game against the Seahawks where the Rams held them to -7 yards on offense.
There is just no way in the world a QB arrives on Tuesday night, plays on Thursday night, and leads an unfamiliar team 98 yards in the final 2 minutes with no timeouts left. Especially a team without an OL, and only #3 and #4 WRs.
It simply isn’t possible in any timeline.
ZooeyModeratorThat was perhaps the most stunning thing I’ve seen in 55 years of following the Rams. I didn’t think Baker could even play with less than two days to prepare, let alone play nearly the entire game. He showed his arm on the first play. The man has physical gifts, that’s for sure. 98 yards with less than 2 minutes, and no timeouts, and he barely knows anybody’s name he’s giving the ball to. I just can’t believe it. If it was a movie, I would certainly observe that this ending is why I hate sports movies. They have preposterous “come-from-behind” storylines in the games.
Anyway, Baker is going to be the focus of attention in the final 4 games. I’m still skeptical of his character (based on innuendo I’ve been exposed to in the media), but he can throw the football, that much I know.
In spite of some of the worst officiating I’ve seen, the Rams ended up benefitting from a couple of calls on that final drive. Even with the penalties the Raiders gifted them, the Rams still made those plays. Skowronek’s catch was superb, and the dime to Jefferson was a spectacle. The Raiders contributed to this loss (which is devastating to them, I am happy to observe). They tried to walk through this game. Carr barely cracked 100 yards passing, and they didn’t play Prevent defense on the final drive, and it cost them the game.
The silver lining of this devastating season is that a lot of guys are getting live experience, and the team (as Hram observed) is still playing with heart. There is depth going into next year.
And maybe an heir apparent at QB?
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