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Zooey
ModeratorThat’s counts as bad news, right?
Staff at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine sent a message to Ukrainian media and government authorities warning that the Russian troops that took the plant are now laying down explosives around it in order to "blackmail the whole of Europe."
— MK-ULTRA (@mkultranews) March 4, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorThis is so scary pic.twitter.com/Gkn752enFz
— Monica đ (@BlackBernieBabe) March 4, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorLee Camp is unemployed.
Okay, I see what happened, RT America has shut down completely. Do you know any details about how/why that happened? BTW, I will be sure to follow your work elsewhere. https://t.co/VAR53xmTL8
— Jeff the Russian Bot #EndApartheid #FreePalestine (@leftyvegan) March 3, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorNATO exists only to defend western Europe against an imperial and expansionist Russian right-wing autocrat who assassinates his critics. The deal Russia make with Ukraine when the latter dismantled the nukes wasnât upheld either. NATO is nothing but a defensive arrangement against an aggressive Putinized Russia. Eliminate Putin and a more benign Russia could easily de-escalate the entire NATO situation since under those conditions NATO would have no reason to exist.
You are making the distinction that NATO is strictly a military alliance.
I’m using it as a concrete representation of Euro-American hegemony.
Yeah, NATO isn’t going to invade. It doesn’t have to. Euro-American business interests are consuming Ukraine without NATO having to do anything beyond military exercises.
And I think it’s very doubtful that NATO would go away without the threat of Putin. It didn’t go away after the threat of the USSR disappeared.
Zooey
ModeratorIt’s not a good look to call for somebody’s assassination publicly, especially if one is a prominent politician oneself.
Zooey
ModeratorWTF is wrong with this guy?
Is there a Brutus in Russia? Is there a more successful Colonel Stauffenberg in the Russian military?
The only way this ends is for somebody in Russia to take this guy out.
You would be doing your country – and the world – a great service.
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) March 4, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorI don’t watch those guys play enough to know.
And you hardly ever watch Rams games, so I don’t know how you have an opinion on those other guys, but suit yourself.
I think Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback, but he’s not a good teammate, and I think that matters. There are a bunch of teams that are talented and capable of winning the Super Bowl, and I happen to think that good team chemistry is at least as important as OL depth. And Rodgers is a primadonna dickhead. I don’t think it’s a great thing to have your team captain think that everyone else is beneath him.
Of all those QBs, not one of them have more rings than Matthew Stafford, and some have fewer.
I will say that I would not take Rodgers, Jackson, or Wilson. I don’t see any of those as a clear upgrade. I concede Rodgers is a better QB, but I’m not sure he is an upgrade, as I said.
Mahomes, maybe. He’s 26. Herbert I’ve seen play maybe 15 snaps, and he has a terrific arm. Don’t think 15 plays is enough to evaluate him, though.
I do like Burrow. I like his skill and his attitude and his youth. If I had to trade, I think I’d take Burrow. But if I had to trade, I’d like to have three weeks of time to watch film before I decided.
Zooey
ModeratorZooey
ModeratorâDoes anybody care what the Rams traded for Matthew Stafford last year? No.â
On my drive home, somebody on the radio was talking about how there is no way that Watson is worth the opening price of 3 first round picks.
And I thought, “The Rams just traded a young, credible starting QB and 2 first round picks for a much older QB, and all the people criticizing the Rams for how they gave up too much are nowhere to be found.”
Zooey
ModeratorZooey
ModeratorYeah, I was wondering about the Littleton and Fowler thing. I had a feeling there was a âDonald Effectâ on all the other rams defensive starters. I would think Donald improves the play of every single player on defense (offense?) including Ramsay. w v
I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking about how good Robinson was this year. And Miller. And Floyd. And Joseph-Day. And I was thinking about how having Miller and Floyd probably makes Robinson better. And how having Robinson makes Miller and Floyd better. There is probably a Sum And Its Parts thing going on here.
But I’ll bet only Donald would have the same stats on some other team.
Zooey
ModeratorThis is what happens when Rams linebackers stop playing with Aaron Donald. Littleton and Fowler. pic.twitter.com/rqcE9Fd7rx
— Super Bowl Broly (@UnleashedBroly) March 1, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorThe late season games in Dec were great tooâŠ
Yeah.
I just didn’t think this team had It. But down the stretch, they started clicking. They got Michel going, OBJ contributed a little more each week. And by halftime of the last game against the 9ers, I started to believe that they had It.
There were good teams in the playoffs, and the bracket had to fall right, but you could see them gelling. They never turned into a Machine. But they had enough of It to see them through.
And winning the Super Bowl – seriously – without Woods, Higbee, OBJ…I don’t think they get enough credit outside of Rams fans for how big that actually was. They won the Super Bowl with a lot of duct tape and Bondo. And the narrative that they “bought” the Super Bowl, or that it was given to them, just couldn’t be more wrong.
Zooey
ModeratorItâs actually in Russiaâs interests to not feel threatened by NATO. When Russia de-escalates in relation to Europe, Europe de-escalates in relation to them. Again the only thing they lose is westward re-expansion.
Except that’s not true. The deal when the USSR collapsed was no NATO expansion in exchange for a unified Germany. Germany unified.
But NATO went ahead and added the Baltic states and Poland and Hungary and Czech and whatever anyway. And there was talk about Ukraine being added. True or not.
Plus western oil corps were in there trying to develop Ukrainian oil/gas, including the president’s son, so – NATO or not – that was pulling Ukraine into Euro-American hegemony, and threatening Russia’s income stream from gas.
Zooey
ModeratorIâve been savoring vids of the 3 game stretch â Bucs, 49ers, Bengals.
Hey, remember when the Rams blew up the Cardinals on the way to the Super Bowl?
Yeah, me neither.
In my history of the Rams, they already only played the Bucs, 9ers, and Bengals.
Zooey
ModeratorI did explain that stance though. As I see it, no one in their right mind believes that NATO is an aggressive force capable of using military might to acquire territory. NATO is not going to invade anyone. And thatâs regardless what you think of NATO. Putin, on the other hand, sees NATO as threatening his own aggressive interests in re-acquiring the lost portions of the old USSRâs eastern European empire. Not that different from Serbia trying to grab what it could from the collapse of Yugoslavia. Russia is not threatened by NATO. Russian imperial expansion is threatened by NATO. I honestly believe that all stands to reason and in fact, to me, it seems like it is completely obvious. Anyway. What Putin âsees as a threatâ is of no interest to me, except that it explains his pathologies as a right-wing dictator. To me, itâs like a domestic abuser who believes people calling him on his violence means they are aggressively threatening to harm an innocent person.
Yeah, I don’t think they fear a ground invasion of NATO.
The fear expansion of Euro-American hegemony, though. NATO can take over countries without firing a shot.
Zooey
ModeratorHere is the article again, this time without formatting, and without the pages of footnotes.
Ukraine: Foreign Intervention, Copious Propaganda, Lies and the Rise of Neo-Nazis
(This term paper, for the University of California, sought to set the record straight on the 2014 destabilization and coup dâetat in Kyiv. The professor of the required political science class had infused his lectures with mindless pro-US propaganda for the entire semester. My intent was to school him, so that he would stop propagandizing the impressionable young students. Eighty-six footnotes, he had to give it an A.)
With current German best seller âGekaufte Journalistenâ (âBought Journalismâ) telling the true story of Udo Olfkotte being paid by the CIA for twenty-five years in order to spin the news in favor of US/NATO interests,1 the plummeting public confidence in corporate mainstream news is more than warranted.2 Of course Operation Mockingbird,3 a CIA scheme to influence and pay US journalists in the same manner,4 has long been exposed and yet is seldom discussed on public airwaves. A German TV sketch comedy troupe, Die Anstalt, satirized the glaring journalistic malfeasance in the mediaâs interpretation of the 2014 Ukraine conflict, to raucous applause.5 Closer to home, CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson revealed the white houseâs manipulation of and collusion with domestic mass media, when she was screamed at by an Obama spokesman, âThe Washington Post is reasonable, the LA Times is reasonable, The New York Times is reasonable. Youâre the only one whoâs not reasonable!â6
This paper will argue that Western propaganda, in coordination with the U.S. State Department and the new Kyiv junta, has repeatedly and deceptively mischaracterized the complex events in Ukraine this past year and continues to recklessly instigate a dangerous conflict between nuclear armed Russia and NATO/United States.
It is impossible to assess the media reports concerning Ukraine without a comprehensive understanding of the events on the ground over this past year. Of particular significance is the question: who is attacking whom? The main meme that has been bulldozed by Western corporate news services appears to be that Russia has allegedly âinvadedâ the Ukraine in some sort of resurgent Soviet âempireâ7 experiment. This is glaringly a case of the cart before the horse, framing the debate in terms of Vladimir Putinâs alleged intentions in nearly every major US news source. Ilya Somin writes in The Washington Post, âRussia already invaded Ukraine in a much more blatant and obvious way months ago when it occupied and annexed Crimea.â8
This is utter nonsense on its face. The Russian naval base at Sevastopol was always present, and so Russian forces did not âinvadeâ at all. The base was located there by treaty, leased from the Ukraine government until 2042.9 The political situation in Crimea was decided by a popular referendum, democratically voted on by the people who live in the province, who overwhelmingly and unquestionably voted to secede from the illegitimate Kyiv coup dâetat regime that overthrew the democratically elected Yanukovych government in February of 2014. Results of this Crimean referendum vary from â96.77%â in favor of secession at Russia Today10, to the Kyiv Post conceding that â93 percent of Crimeans voted to join Russia, and street celebrations under way.â11 The obvious meaning of this referendum, that democracy was working, soon washed away and tales of âinvasionâ on Russiaâs part became the main western propaganda narrative that European and American citizens would hear about on their televisions.
John Kerry took point in preemptively denouncing the Crimean exercise in democracy when he issued threats to Russia on March 13th.12 He also claimed that, âThere is no justification, no legality to this referendum that is taking place.â This was from the man who recognized the violent Kyiv street mobs as the legitimate government of the entire nation of Ukraine after they seized power through chaos, Molotov cocktails, firearms and wounding upward of â500â police.13 Kerryâs boss, Barack Obama, even went to the absurd length of calling the Nuland/Yatsenyuk coup dâetat government âduly elected.â14
In response to the US claim of illegality, Russian president Vladimir Putin responded directly:
âMoreover, the Crimean authorities referred to the well-known Kosovo precedent â a precedent our western colleagues created with their own hands in a very similar situation, when they agreed that the unilateral separation of Kosovo from Serbia, exactly what Crimea is doing now, was legitimate and did not require any permission from the countryâs central authorities. Pursuant to Article 2, Chapter 1 of the United Nations Charter, the UN International Court agreed with this approach and made the following comment in its ruling of July 22, 2010, and I quote: âNo general prohibition may be inferred from the practice of the Security Council with regard to declarations of independence,â and âGeneral international law contains no prohibition on declarations of independence.â Crystal clear, as they say.â15
One wonders if Kerry and Obama would have held the democratic aspirations of the people of Scotland in similar regard, and whether Edinburgh would currently be bombed with artillery and aerial assaults had that nation voted slightly differently this past August. The prize for the most shrill hysteria over Crimea, though, should go to Hillary Clinton: âItâs what Hitler did back in the 30s.â16
The political transition in Crimea was the most peaceful of all major recent political events in Ukraine, not exactly the stuff of military âinvasions.â While Right Sector, Svoboda, UNA and SNA neo-nazi/fascist elements violently stormed Kyivâs government buildings in a hail of firebombs, gunfire and berserk mob violence this February, and Kyivâs later military assaults on Donetsk and Luhansk have killed thousands of civilians to date, the events in Crimea were an example of actual peaceful democracy in action. And so of course the State Department vehemently opposed it.
Political support for the Yanukovych presidency was based primarily in the east,17 and so this divide between eastern and western Ukraine reflects deep longstanding ethnic divisions. These have since been exploited by the Maidan coup coalition. This cultural division was noted for decades, even rising to the level of a civilizational dividing line in Samuel Huntingtonâs Clash of Civilizations, separating, âthe more Catholic western Ukraine from Orthodox eastern Ukraine.â18
The primary spoken language in the eastern provinces, notably in the Donbass region of Luhansk and Donetsk, is Russian. When the junta deposed president Yanukovych one of their first legal acts was to outlaw Russian as an official language.19 Russian is spoken by â40%â of Ukrainians.20 ââThis makes Russian-speakers feel like second-class citizens,â [said] Ruslan Bortnik, vice chairman of Russian-Speaking Ukraine, an advocacy group.â21 Further, with the onslaught of fascist street violence in Kyiv, a Rand Corporation analyst explained that the Ukrainian language law was, âperceived as taking away rights enjoyed by the Russian-speaking population, and potentially a sign that there might be growing discrimination against them.â22 The barbarism and anti-democratic nature of this new junta23 prompted a strong reaction by eastern Ukrainian citizens whose spoken language and heritage are, of course, Russian.
But in order to ascertain how this conflict became the most dangerous flashpoint on earth, pitting heavily nuclear-armed states against one another, we need to put the horse back in front of the cart and go backward in time. Eight-term former US Congressman, Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) lectured right-wing pundit Bill OâReilly on Ukraine, with a particularly cogent jab: âBill OâReilly, if you donât believe in cause and effect, I donât know what I can do for you.â24 Kucinich went on to call out CIA, State Department, USAID and particularly the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) for meddling in Ukraineâs internal politics. This was of no interest to the showâs host, OâReilly, who repeatedly attempted to turn the focus back toward Vladimir Putin. Asking Kucinich, a former presidential candidate, what he would do as US president in this current situation, Kucinich answered,
âWhat Iâd do is not have USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy working with U.S. taxpayersâ money to knock off an elected government in Ukraine, which is what they did. I wouldnât try to force the people of Ukraine into a deal with NATO against their interest or into a deal with the European Union, which is against their economic interest.â25
Before OâReilly cut off the exchange, Kucinich was able to clearly mention âsixty-five programsâ in Ukraine, âsupported by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).â This is not an aberration but has been standard procedure since the fall of the Soviet Union to meddle in the internal politics of the former Soviet republics and to install regimes friendly to US business interests and to NATO military base expansion. Culminating, in Ukraine itself, in the 2004 so-called âOrange Revolution,â the UK Guardian reported a âUS campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev.â Official US admissions put the total money spent to install Yushchenko as president at âaround $14m.â Foreign money entered the Ukrainian political scene via the âDemocratic partyâs National Democratic Institute, the Republican partyâs International Republican Institute, the US state department and USAid⊠Freedom House NGO and billionaire George Sorosâs open society institute.â26
Moving ahead to 2013, it was not Vladimir Putin on the streets of Ukraine handing out snacks and meeting with coup plotters against the democratically elected Yanukovych government, but one Victoria Nuland, the current Assistant Secretary of State in the Obama administration.27 Nuland was repeatedly photographed with the coup plotters including the head of the ultra-right Svoboda Party, Oleh Tyahnybok, UDAR party head Klitschko and the currently installed junta Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk.28
Oleh Tyahnybok, and his neo-fascist Svoboda party, were flagged by the European Parliament in 2012, which warned that, âracist, anti-Semitic and xenophobic views go against the EUâs fundamental values and principles and therefore appeals to pro-democratic parties in the [Ukrainian] Verkhovna Rada not to associate with, endorse or form coalitions with this party.â29
Victoria Nuland made international headlines with her âFuck the EUâ quip, which indeed served to distract many from the substance of the leaked telephone call between herself and the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt. The call was likely recorded by Russian intelligence on an open phone line. The exchange begins with Pyatt announcing, âI think weâre in play.â
âNuland: I think Yats is the guy whoâs got the economic experience, the governing experience. Heâs the⊠what he needs is Klitsch and Tyahnybok on the outside. He needs to be talking to them four times a week, you know. I just think Klitsch going in⊠heâs going to be at that level working for Yatseniuk, itâs just not going to work.â30
So the Assistant Secretary of State of the United States was revealed choosing who would serve and who would not serve in a new Ukrainian junta, after deposing the elected president Yanukovych. As âYats,â Arseniy Yatsenyuk, indeed entered this new junta as Prime Minister, and the scenario played out exactly as the transcript revealed, this conversation is further evidence of US meddling in the internal affairs of Ukraine, a violent breach of state sovereignty it turns out. American and European interference destabilized Ukraine in February of 2014 and created the ongoing crisis.
Victoria Nuland has not been shy about bragging of her efforts to alter the political landscape of Ukraine. In a speech she made on December 13th of 2013 to the US-Ukraine Foundation, standing in front of a Chevron logo no less, Nuland bragged of spending â$5 billionâ of US taxpayersâ money in total, âas we take Ukraine into the future it deserves.â31
One might legitimately ask what she meant, with that âfutureâ now able to be assessed in the worldâs headlines each day: civil war, mass murders, atrocities, bombings, disappearances, Neo-Nazi ascendancy, destabilization, economic bankruptcy.32 Did Ukraine âdeserveâ such a future?
Events in Ukraine took a very nasty turn after Pyatt and Nulandâs machinations became âin playâ in February of 2014. While western audiences were treated to a propaganda video entitled, I am a Ukrainian,33 this so-called âviralâ video was actually executive-produced by Larry Diamond and âA Whisper to a Roar.â34 Diamond is connected to the National Endowment for Democracy as well as to the US State Department. âLarry Diamond is the founding co-editor of the Journal of Democracy and the co-chair of the Research Council of the International Forum for Democratic Studies of the National Endowment for Democracy.â35 The NED receives nearly its entire budget from US government grants, $134.9m in 2011 alone.36 It is a tool of regime change with a long history of interfering in foreign elections and even thwarting democracy abroad as in this case. It is described by journalist Robert Parry as a â$100 million U.S. government-financed slush fund that generally supports a neocon agenda.â37
Diamondâs propaganda video omitted the role of firebombings38 and countless acts of political violence during the Maidan revolution in its one-sided carefully constructed narrative. On February 20th of 2014 the Ukrainian government said that âMore than 500 law enforcers have been injured since the start of violent clashes on Tuesday, 108 of them were shot, and 63 are in a serious condition.â39 In fact the violent actions of Right Sector, Svoboda and the other ultra-nationalists40 would obviously be considered terrorism by western leaders had they taken place in any other western capital city. The double standard was quite glaring, to some.
Ukraine came under hard economic times in 2013, and predictably responded with dissatisfaction and discontent among the electorate. This political environment was cynically exploited when the European Union issued the Yanukovych government an ultimatum.41 The EUâs trade offer demanded that Ukraine cut off trade with Russia to its east. The Russians made no similar ultimatum, and Ukraine found itself stuck in the middle of a trade war with a significant amount of trade with Russia at stake. Yanukovych declined the ultimatum, and that is when extra-constitutional means were unleashed to depose his government. The Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister explained:
âThe government based itself on exclusively national interests, the interests of protecting employment, increasing the economic stability of the government and boosting productive potential⊠Ukraine had given up hopes of receiving International Monetary Fund credits as Kiev was unwilling to comply with demands to hike prices for household utilities by 40 percent.â42
The Yanukovych government made the best decision it could given the ultimatum, and so outside forces, circling like vultures, turned their focus toward destabilizing mob violence in order to change the situation on the ground, which did change. Yanukovych fell in late February.
The worldâs press turned against him when snipers picked off a number of protesting rioters, and these deaths were naturally attributed to Yanukovych without the need for actual evidence of his guilt. The New York Times has led the propaganda from Ukraine, declaring on February 20th, âUkraineâs Forces Escalate Attacks Against Protesters.â43 All killings are naturally attributed to the Yanukovych government, by now clearly the official US enemy du jour. Dozens of protesters were indeed killed by sniper fire on the 20th, but this fire originated from buildings controlled by the protesters themselves.
Specifically the Hotel Ukraina was where snipers fired for a long period of time down on advancing protesters. A German investigation showed that the hotel was occupied by Maidan forces, not the government.44 Eyewitnesses from the day confirmed what another leaked diplomatic call had revealed. The forensic evidence surprised the Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and the European Union Foreign Affairs chief CathyAshton:
âPAET: âŠevidence shows that people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides⊠So there is a stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers it was not Yanukovych, it was somebody from the new coalition.
ASHTON: I think we do want to investigate. I didnât pick that up, thatâs interesting. Gosh.â45
âGoshâ indeed. The head of Ukraineâs security under Yanukovych, Aleksandr Yakimenko, has called the snipers âmercenaries,â46 which they indeed may have been seeing how the investigation of same has been an obvious cover-up.47
Upon the governmentâs collapse, the extreme right took over crucial government positions, as Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting described:
âThe new deputy prime minister, Oleksandr Sych, is from Svoboda; National Security Secretary Andriy Parubiy is a co-founder of the neo-Nazi Social-National Party, Svobodaâs earlier incarnation; the deputy secretary for National Security is Dmytro Yarosh, the head of Right Sector. Chief prosecutor Oleh Makhnitsky is another Svoboda member, as are the ministers for Agriculture and Ecology. In short, if the prospect of fascists taking power again in Europe worries you, you should be very worried about Ukraine.â48
Even Voice of America mentioned Right Sector fascists being legitimized and recruited into the ânewâ National Guard of Ukraine.49 Uncharacteristically, for the US propaganda outlet, the report included the concerns of the residents of the east. âThese people are terrorists. They should be in court, not given guns,â and âseveral said the National Guard was an illegal formation set up by a government that had usurped power by force.â
All true, but this didnât stop the Obama administration from sending another $19 million of US taxpayer money to arm and train the Right Sector National Guard50 and another $8 million for a Ukraine border security force.51 Additionally, the California National Guard was shipped to Ukraine to train these same neo-nazi fighters, in a move that should cause some concern to the American public, whose last experiences with Naziism played out somewhat differently. The CIAâs relationship with Nazis, post WW2 however, was much more cozy.52 The US employment of â1,000â German Nazis was indeed reported by the NY Times â fifty years late â and long after the news could have any real world impact.
Some news coverage has concerned the Ukrainian âAzov Battalion,â due to its many recent atrocities.53 This group is headed by a zealous neo-nazi named Andriy Biletsky. The insignia of the battalion is a German SS symbol, and swastikas are common in the unit. Biletsky has said, âThe historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival⊠a crusade against the Semite-led Untermenschen.â54
The Untermenschen or âsub-humanâ meme, once very popular in the Third Reich, was also included in one of Arseniy Yatsenyukâs speeches. The juntaâs Prime Minister said,
âThey lost their lives because they defended men and women, children and the elderly who found themselves in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders and sponsored by them subhumans. First, we will commemorate the heroes by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil.â55 (emphasis added)
Such incitement to genocide did not go unnoticed by the residents of the east nor by the Russians. The conflict turned murderous on May 2nd of 2014 in Odessa. The NY Times coverage made no attempt to place the blame for the dozens of killings nor even on whom had started the fires in the trade union hall.56 The BBC blatantly mis-attributed photographs of police provocateurs, labeling them âpro-Russian activistsâ without any legitimate investigation.57 Western news universally got the story wrong, uncurious as to who specifically started the violence and how they were able to brandish firearms while intermingling with the police as well as hiding behind a wall of officers.58
But numerous photographs and video evidence of the street battles and mass murder spree of May 2nd are available online for the more curious readers. Central to the violence was a group of about thirty plain-clothed individuals seen coordinating with the local police commander, identified as âdeputy commander Dmitry Fucheji,â an agent of the Ukraine Interior Ministry.59 This group is distinct and identifiable due to the red electrical tape armbands they all wore that day. Russian news, of course, did not fail to notice the coordinated provocation, where these individuals with red electrical tape arm bands attacked the visiting Football crowd with firearms from behind a wall of police, thus initiating the violence.60 Victims â actual pro-Russian separatist protesters camped out at the trade union building â were later murdered inside the union hall by gunshots, stabbings and strangulation. Their bodies were burned to hide evidence of this terrorism.61
The NY Times has been particularly egregious in promoting Kyivâs questionable propaganda, often on the front page. On April 14th Obamaâs white house admitted that the CIA was advising the Kyiv junta.62 By April 20th, the Times had photos allegedly showing Russian military officers operating in Ukraine. Suspicious photographs of rebel fighters appeared, only to be retracted two days later.63 The photographer was contacted, and his images were used without permission; these were taken inside Ukraine, not in Russia as fraudulently claimed by the Kyiv intelligence. The Timesâ web page of that story makes no mention of the retraction to this day and still functions as live propaganda.64 The photos were, as expected, âendorsed by the Obama administration.â The retraction, which appeared on page âA9â and nowhere near the front page, all but conceded the entire story was an outright fraud. The Timesâ fealty to the Obama administration was strikingly obvious as the editors backpedaled over each individual photograph. For example: âBut the dispute over the group photograph cast a cloud over one particularly vivid and highly publicized piece of evidence.â They did not mean âevidenceâ of official fraud and war propaganda, but the photos equally served to expose those purposes as well.
Even National Geographic was fear mongering that Vladimir Putin would âinvadeâ Ukraine65 as of May 2nd as dozens of peaceful ethnic Russian protesters were massacred by extreme right fascist rioters in Odessa. The impression in western media was that the events in Ukraine were somehow, vaguely orchestrated by the Russians, without any actual evidence of such required. Putin, who clearly had no desire to âinvadeâ Donbass, responded on May 7th by asking that the independence referendum be postponed as well as by pulling Russian troops back away from the border in an effort to defuse tensions.66 This is hardly the hallmark of a resurgent âempire,â a bogus claim that continues to live on. The Donetsk and Luhansk Ukrainian separatists ignored Putinâs warnings and held the referenda anyway, even though Russiaâs military protection was now in question.
On May 11th the two provinces voted overwhelmingly for independence, not to join the Russian federation. These autonomy votes signaled a breaking away from the illegitimate coup dâetat regime of Kyiv, not of a Russian-orchestrated territory annexation. The Kyiv juntaâs response to the democratic process was to fire mortars and gunshots at Slavyansk on the eve the of the vote.67 The people of the two regions were undeterred though. Donetsk voted â89.07%â for independence and Luhansk â96.2%.â68
The invasion came swiftly, not from Russia though, but from the Ukraine military units, many of them now staffed by neo-nazi fanatics and directed by the unabashed neo-nazi head of Right Sector: Dmytro Yarosh. Punitive military actions against the populations of Donetsk and Luhansk included artillery bombings, fire bombing, aerial bombs, small arms fire, kidnappings, and torture. The UN totals as of September 16th, and already outdated, were that 3,517 were killed and almost 9,000 wounded.69
As for Russiaâs alleged âinvasionâ of Ukraine this must go down in the books as the oddest military incursion in history. Rather than moving infantry, tanks, rocket launchers and aircraft into the allegedly occupied territory, Russia has remained within its own border. Such an odd âinvasionâ when the two Russian-friendly provinces could easily have been taken and secured within a day, in the real world, the one seldom seen in US op-ed pages. Instead Putinâs Russia has respected the referenda of the people of the two provinces and has not attempted to annex the territory.
Beyond mischaracterizations and beyond misattribution, the big one, the Big Lie to date of the Ukraine disaster has been the western news coverage of the shooting down of the Malaysian passenger plane, MH-17. News services could be expected to be taken in by a staged provocation, but the refusal to investigate nor to present all of the evidence, including evidence of Kyivâs glaring fraud and continued lies rises to the level of deliberate, knowing propaganda.
Two very different accounts of the commercial planeâs shoot down have been presented to the world, while most western audiences have only heard one of these scenarios, the weaker one from the Kyiv junta (and partners). However, the scenario with the evidence to back it up was presented by the Russian military immediately after the crash of MH-17, and it directly refutes and debunks some of Kyivâs claims.70
Russia showed in reconnaissance photos that the Kyiv government forces had recently placed several BUK M1 surface to air missile launchers at the edge of the separatist-controlled area, even though their separatist opponents had no planes at all.
Additionally, two radar monitoring stations in Russia recorded a fighter plane, presumed to be model SU-25, rapidly approach and intercept the airliner at a distance of â3 to 5 kilometers,â well within range to engage and shoot down the defenseless commercial jet. Eyewitnesses on the ground confirmed the presence of a fighter jet flying beside and beneath the exploding airliner. BBC censored a video report from its own Ukraine correspondent, Olga Ivshina, showing local eyewitnesses confirming the military jet: ââAnd there was another aircraft, a military one, beside it [the Malaysian plane]. Everybody saw itâ ⊠A second witness to the crash said, âIt was flying under it [the Malaysian plane], we could see it. It was going underneath the civilian one.ââ71 Kyiv junta officials have therefore directly lied about the presence of this military aircraft right up to the office and person of President Poroshenko.72
Forensic evidence of the airliner showed numerous holes consistent with the 30mm nose cannon of an SU-25, which the Russians tested for comparison sake.73 The first Organization of Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) monitor on the scene, Canadian Michael Bociurkiw, confirmed the damage pattern of âalmost machine-gun like holes.â74 The Russian Union of Engineers presented a case that the Malaysian jet was first attacked at the cockpit with cannon fire, killing the pilots and preventing them from radioing what was happening.75 The SU-25 can carry air to air missiles capable of finishing off the civilian plane, and within 5km, the capability is âguaranteed.â76
Kyiv responded to the MH-17 disaster by repeatedly shelling the crash site, in an apparent effort to destroy or taint evidence and to dissuade investigators.
âThere is no access to the site. A battle is raging on two kilometers from the site, with a Ukrainian unit fighting right on the debris of the plane,â said Andrei Purgin, First Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Peopleâs Republic. Mr. Purgin accused the government in Kiev of deliberately attacking and shelling the crash site to destroy all the evidence and prevent a thorough investigation.â77
The Russians directly confronted US claims that they had satellite evidence establishing the cause of the Malaysian shoot down.78 The alleged satellite photographs from the US have never been shown, and instead remain unsubstantiated insinuations.
The lead investigator of the MH-17 disaster, Dutch official Fred Westerbeke has vocally complained that the so-called âevidenceâ talked about in the media has not been given to his investigation. Insinuating a cover-up, Westerbeke said, âWe are not certain whether we already have everything or if there are more â information that is possibly even more specific. In any case, what we do have is insufficient for drawing any conclusions.â Westerbeke has refused to rule out the Russian scenario, as of October 27th.79
What sold the idea, to the western public, that the separatist rebels shot down the Malaysian airliner was apparently a PSYOP, a military false-information ploy that turns out to be a crude audio forgery. Of course it is posted to the NY Times website,80 and the audio clip was presented uncritically to the world without the proper expert analysis to determine if it was indeed genuine or not. The local rebel commander can be heard saying, âWe have just shot down a plane.â This sounds convincing, on its face, even to other separatist fighters who believed it to be true on July 17th.
Only, the commander, Igor Bezler explained that the recorded conversation was âabout a Ukrainian attack aircraft shot down by the militia above Yenakiyevo a day before the Malaysian airliner crash.â Indeed an SU-25 was reported shot down on July 16th, while the Kyiv junta tried to blame this event on Russian military aircraft without providing any supporting evidence.81
Expert audio analysis of the alleged âinterceptsâ concluded that âit was made up of numerous unrelated recordings.â82 A Russian team of experts led by Nikolai Popov found, âThis audio recording is not an integral file and is made up of several fragments.â
âŠthree audio fragments, in which ⊠Igor Bezler talks about a plane shot down by the fighters, does not say anything about the type of the plane⊠the town of Yenakiyevo is clearly heard in the tape. However, the town is located about 100 km (60 miles) from the settlement of Snezhnoye where the Malaysian Boeing-777 airliner crashed. The tapeâs second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording⊠spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes.
This challenge to the evidence has been on the table since July, and yet has gone unanswered by western media and intelligence, as if it is unimportant to prove responsibility for the crash. The lead investigator, Westerbeke, commented, âBut if we in fact do want to try the perpetrators in court, then we will need evidence and more than a recorded phone call from the Internet or photos from the crash site.â His investigation has found the evidence less than compelling, and the case remains open.
Supporting the thesis of this paper, Westerbeke also commented on the low quality of the news coverage: âIf you read the newspapers, though, they suggest it has always been obvious what happened to the airplane and who is responsible.â His own investigation, to its credit, has jumped to no such speculative conclusions.
In the end the Ukraine skirmish is as much about an economic and political attack on rival Russia as it is about expanding NATO toward Russiaâs borders and securing the resource-rich coal and gas fields of Donbass for western corporations such as Chevron and Royal Dutch Shell.83 It is certainly not about democracy, as the installing of fascist parties in Kyiv and the denouncing of actual democratic elections in the disputed provinces demonstrate. Building up Vladimir Putin into some boogeyman serves to frighten the tiny eastern European republics, thus increasing the likelihood of their also joining NATO and clamoring for protection from the big bad Russians. That the entire conflict was cooked up by western schemers, who dangled tens of billions of dollars in front of the neo-nazi Ukrainian coup leaders,84 seems to have been overlooked by many. The western âfreeâ press has discredited itself time and again by hiding numerous inconvenient facts from readers and unleashing a storm of anti-Russian propaganda that bears little resemblance to the facts on the ground.
Of course numerous Russian individuals have flocked to help defend the two breakaway provinces from Kyivâs military assault. Just as citizens of âIreland, Italy, Greece and Scandinaviaâ have flocked to the white supremacist Azov Battalion85 to wage all-out war on the Donbass. More than one million refugees have fled from this brutal onslaught initiated by Kyiv. More than 800,000 escaped to Russia86 after the genocidal pronouncements of Kyiv junta officials, who speak of âsubhumansâ and extermination campaigns. The defense of the region has given Vladimir Putin and the Russian state ample cause to consider the western-concocted principle of a âResponsibility to Protect.â
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ModeratorIâm just not buying the legitimacy of their feeling threatened enough to start a war.
I don’t, either.
It seems far more likely to me that Russia is worried about Ukraine emerging as a competitor in the European natural gas market. Ukraine’s emergence as a significant supplier of natural gas would come at Russia’s expense.
And if Russia is the major supplier of gas, it gives them leverage over Europe. If Europe has choices among suppliers, it gives them leverage over Russia.
That, to me, makes the most sense of anything I’ve seen.
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ModeratorIâll add that the videoâs theory that Russia wants to take over Ukraine to protect its borders from invasion sounds ridiculous because Russia is a nuclear power.
Yeah, that sounds like an atavistic reason, at best. That kind of explanation may be lurking somewhere in Russia’s subconscious, but that’s not the reason for the invasion. I tried to edit the post to say that the best part was in the second half of the video, (and to edit the link so that the video starts at the beginning), but I made that post with a Chromebook, and it frequently gets tangled up on this forum and spins out. I’m not sure why. My land computer never does, and it’s only this site that spins out my Chromebook.
Anyway, here’s TL;DR or (TL;DW) summary of the video:
Moscow sits in the middle of the North European plain, a flat expanse of land that extends in a funnel shape from the Netherlands in the west to the Ural Mountains in the east, leaving no defensible geographic features anywhere near Moscow.
The Warsaw Pact used to act as buffer states between Germany and Russia, but NATO has been expanding east, and already shares borders with Russia in the Baltic states. If Ukraine joined NATO, the sheer length of the border would make Russia’s western flank indefensible. Furthermore, it would place NATO within 300 km of the Volgograd through which the Volga River passes, and by which Russia brings up much of its oil and gas supply. Volgograd is, of course, Stalingrad, where Germany attacked in WWII precisely for the purpose of pinching off those supplies. For this reason, Russia prefers Ukraine to be a vassal state, or at the very least, independent.
But more significant is the oil and gas reserves. Russia is basically a petro-state, producing the 2nd-most oil in the world, ahead of even Saudi Arabia. 50% of Russia’s government spending comes from oil/gas, and a full 30% of its GDP. The USSR delivered gas/oil to Europe through pipelines that run through the Ukraine. Since the breakup of the Soviet Union, Ukraine has been charging Russia billions of dollars each year to continue using them, and Russia has been building alternate pipelines (including the Nord Stream 1 and 2).
Moreover, Ukraine itself has massive reserves which are largely undeveloped, though Shell, Exxon, etc. are interested in building the infrastructure necessary to extract it. If Ukraine were to tap into its vast supply of natural gas, it would challenge Russia as a supplier, and Russia’s income, power, and influence would be sharply curtailed. This is also why Russia annexed Crimea, and all its substantial reserves.
Meanwhile, Putin’s negotiating position is that the west agrees that NATO withdraw all armed forces from eastern Europe back to its pre-expansion positions, and that NATO freeze its alliance as is, with no expansion in the future, including Ukraine.
Zooey
ModeratorI didn’t start following this story at all – for the same reasons wv outlined above – because it’s a capitalist murder spot, and parsing the blame seemed beside the point. Like Billy, I condemn all of it.
But I kept seeing so MUCH pro-Ukraine sentiment everywhere, on all my feeds, that I just couldn’t explain it outside of the obvious: the US has been massively propagandized to see Putin as a lunatic who makes no sense. I mean…I kept seeing that, and that just doesn’t seem to pass the eyeball test to me, so I got curious, and started reading. The first few articles I found focused on the Maidan revolution in 2014.
That may be outdated, as zn states, and the presence of a Jewish president would seem to suggest that the white supremacists do not control the country.
Anyway, I was still curious about WHY Putin would do this. What could he possibly hope to accomplish. And I came across a video that explains the Russian perspective pretty well, imo.
It’s nearly 1/2 hour long (the last few minutes are an ad for a video subscription service), and I thought this video is excellent. This all rings true to me, and I would think the information about Ukraine threatening Russia’s economic clout would likely be the primary reason.
This is good. https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE
Zooey
ModeratorZooey, You did the legwork, and it couldnât have been easy. But itâs too much for me to sift through, and the formatting here isnât cooperating with your efforts. Itâs not really readable for me. Could you distill it down to an essence or two? Your own take from those articles?
I don’t know what is happening with formatting. It’s been since the board got upgraded. I don’t think it likes live links in text that’s copied from html. I don’t know, though. All those articles got caught up, and zn had to do something so they even showed up, but he can’t do anything about the embedded code. Or something. Still figuring it out.
Anyway…I don’t know what to make of it. I said this earlier, and I still stand by it, but I have a lot of questions, like “wtf is Putin hoping to accomplish?” Among others.
So as far as I can gather, Ukraine is an inherently unstable country with a Russian-speaking eastern side, and a western side that speaks something else. Theyâve had a series of corrupt, authoritarian grifters run the country as it vacillates between between pro-Russian and pro-western sympathies, and when the people started protesting against the corruption in 2014, the movement was co-opted by nazi sympathizers who took control. The US seems to have taken advantage of the situation since the Nazis are pro-EU, so theyâve been assisted financially by the US, presumably for the usual Empire reasons. Meanwhile, the US has broken its promises not to expand NATO, squashed a pipeline deal between Russia and Germany, and I canât think of one good reason why Russia should be content with these developments.
ZN says that isn’t quite right, and I haven’t read his Vox article yet. I dunno. I resisted reading anything about this at all until this morning because it’s the same old shite anyway, innit? Powerful people are bastards, and none of them are any good.
I recommend the Jacobin article. Hit the link and avoid the format hell.
https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
Zooey
ModeratorListen to what #NoamChomsky was saying back in 2015 about #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/SelROpdmGA
— JohnQ PhD Hons Bullđ© detectân (@johnq63175976) February 26, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorThis doesn’t seem right.
Graphic â ïž
A Russian tank swerves & runs over civilian car.
Peacekeepers my ass.
This is sheer cruelty. pic.twitter.com/JMMgTobm9X— Ann is still European đStand with Ukraine đ»đșđŠ (@56blackcat) February 25, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorSome history:
A US-Backed, Far RightâLed Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
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Zooey
ModeratorWhy Biden didnât negotiate seriously with Putin
The two themes that let the Blob carry the day
A couple of decades from now, someone reading an account of the 2022 Russia-Ukraine warâif thatâs what the Ukraine crisis turns into, as it seems to be doingâmay have this thought:
Wait, let me get this straight. So the leaders of the big NATO countries didnât especially want Ukraine to join NATO? And agreeing to not let Ukraine join NATOâagreeing to not do what they didnât want to do anywayâmight have kept Russia from invading Ukraine? But they didnât do that? And doing that wasnât even seriously discussed? Like, virtually no influential American commentators argued that doing this would make sense? How could that be?
Good question! Regular readers of this newsletter may expect me to answer it by launching immediately into an indictment of âthe Blobâ (the foreign policy establishment) and lamenting the Blobâs lack of âcognitive empathyâ (understanding how your adversary, or anyone else, views the world).
Well, youâre wrong about the âimmediatelyâ part. Those themes will surface soon enough, but first Iâd like to turn your attention to two other themes. These are themes whose promulgation (yes, by the Blob) has stifled serious discussion of how to prevent war in Ukraine (yes, in part by impeding cognitive empathy).
Both are hardy perennialsâthemes that, over the years, have done untold damage to peacemaking efforts. Maybe if we ponder how little sense they made this time around, weâll be less likely to fall for them next time around.
1. The Munich theme.
Last week Ukrainian President Zelinsky delivered a speech at the Munich Security Conference in which he complained that NATO hadnât set a firm timetable for admitting Ukraine. His talk generated this headline in the British tabloid the Daily Mail: âUkraine’s president condemns Western âappeasement’ of Putin in blistering address in MUNICHâŠâ
Yes, the headline had âMunichâ in all caps: MUNICH. That was a helpful reminder that, in foreign policy circles, the word âappeasementâ is almost always a reference to British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlainâs infamous performance at his 1938 meeting with Adolf Hitler in Munich. With Germany having massed troops along Czechoslovakiaâs border, Chamberlain made concessions to prevent an invasion and then emerged from the meeting declaring that there would be âpeace for our time.â Which was off by about six years and 60 million bodies.
Ever since then, people who advocate making concessions that could reduce the chances of war have been accused of favoring âappeasementâ and have been sternly warned not to repeat the mistakes of MUNICH. No doubt President Biden was aware that heâd have been deluged with that word had he broached the possibility of granting Putin his main wish by ruling out the admission of Ukraine to NATO. (Commentators were sending Munich warnings as early as November and December in response to a different rumored concession.)
The Munich comparison shouldnât be casually dismissed. For one thing, itâs always regrettable to make concessions to someone who is threatening to invade a country. Youâd rather not reward that kind of behavior. Still, paying that price is, I think, the only important parallel between the Munich case and the Ukraine case. And there are at least two big differences between the two cases.
Munich-Ukraine Difference #1: At Munich, with Hitler threatening to invade and seize a chunk of territory, Chamberlain agreed to let him have the chunk of territory he was threatening to seize. Britain and France strongarmed Czechoslovakia into giving Hitler the Sudetenland, a German-speaking part of the country. In contrast, the idea behind the NATO-Ukraine concession would have been to keep Putin from seizing the territory he was threatening to seize.
Thereâs been a lot of talkâfrom administration officials and othersâabout how excluding Ukraine from NATO would somehow violate Ukraineâs âsovereign rightâ to decide which alliances it joins. Thatâs nonsense. Ukraine has no more of a sovereign right to join NATO than I have to join the Council on Foreign Relations. International alliances, like organizations at the heart of the Blob, get to choose their members.
In short: Chamberlain replaced one kind of violation of Czechoslovakiaâs sovereigntyâlosing territory via invasionâwith what was, in effect, another kind: losing territory without the invasion. No one was asking Biden to do that with Ukraine. Weâve been asking him to prevent a violation of Ukraineâs sovereignty (losing territory via invasion) by doing something that violates no oneâs sovereignty.
Munich-Ukraine Difference #2: At Munich, the guy on the other side of the table was Adolf Hitler. And hereâs something to keep in mind about Hitler: He was crazy.
I donât just mean he considered it totally OK to murder millions of people because of their ethnicity. Thatâs a kind of craziness, but the more relevant kind, for present purposes, is that he suffered from delusions that led him to repeatedly take existential risks. His declaring war on Russia in 1941, which sealed Germanyâs fate, is the most famous example, but other examples had surfaced long before he was Germanyâs leader. In 1923, he was lucky to get through his failed âBeer Hall Putschâ wounded and jailed rather than dead.
Putin has neverânot in his ascent to Russiaâs leadership and not in his subsequent foreign policyâshown the kind of casualness with risk that Hitler showed again and again. So thereâs no reason to believe Putin would have followed a negotiated deal with the kind of expansionist rampage that ensued in the aftermath of Chamberlainâs dealâwhen Hitler, within a year, annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia and invaded Poland. (Hitler was surprised that the Poland invasion led France and Britain to declare war on Germany; risk assessment just wasnât his strong suit.)
Besides, since any deal with Putin would have made continued adherence to the NATO-Ukraine concession contingent on Russiaâs continued compliance with the deal, this âconcessionâ could be easily reclaimed if Putin violated the deal. A promise not to expand NATO is easy to revoke; letting Hitlerâs troops occupy part of Czechoslovakia wasnât.
2. The âPutin canât be reasoned withâ theme.
Depicting Putin as crazy or irrational or unfathomably strange is a common theme in the Blobosphere (and it of course works in synergy with the Munich theme, since it locates Putinâs tactical psychology in the general vicinity of Hitlerâs tactical psychology).
For example, in January influential Blobster Michael McFaul, the former US Ambassador to Russia who is MSNBCâs go-to Russia expert, explained in the Washington Post why there was no point in offering Putin things like a freeze on NATO expansion: âIf Putin thought like us, maybe some of these proposals might work. Putin does not think like us. He has his own analytic framework, his own ideas and his own ideologyâonly some of which comport with Western rational realism.â
Also in January, international relations scholar Tom Nichols wrote in the Atlantic that Putin âsimply does not share a common frame of reference about the world with his opponents in the West.â Rather, âdeep in the dark recesses of Putinâs psyche,â there are such things as an âemotional and visceral attachment to Ukraineâ so strong as to give the West âlimited sway in the situation that is now unfolding.â Hence the title and subtitle of Nicholsâs piece: âOnly Putin Knows What Happens Next: He alone can make the choice to bring Europe back from the brink of a major war.â And hence Nicholsâs take on why Putin was massing more and more troops on Ukraineâs border: âNo one really knows why Putin is doing this.â
Not everyone would see the Ukraine crisis as a perplexing product of Putinâs eccentricities. Consider the current CIA director, William Burns. Back in 2008, the year George W. Bush fatefully badgered reluctant European leaders into pledging future NATO membership to Ukraine, Burns sent a memo to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that included this warning:
Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putinâs sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.
Burns added that it was âhard to overstate the strategic consequencesâ of offering Ukraine NATO membershipâa move that, he predicted, would âcreate fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.â
So Burns predicted 12 years ago that pretty much the entire Russian national security establishment would be inclined to make trouble in Ukraine if we offered NATO membership to Ukraineâyet now that weâve promised NATO membership to Ukraine and Putin is indeed making trouble in Ukraine, people like McFaul and Nichols say the explanation must lie somewhere in the murky depths of Putinâs peculiar psychology.
Iâm not saying Putinâs calculations are purely about Russian national security. Obviously, Putin is a politician, and he responds to domestic political forces as well as geopolitical ones. But in the domestic realm, too, his pattern of responses is intelligible as the product of a rational mind.
For example: If enough Russians feel their country is being disrespected by the West, Putin can win points by standing up to the West. And, to put a finer point on it: If Russians hear that the pro-Western Ukrainian government is shrinking the Russian languageâs role in public schools and closing Russian-language media outletsâboth of which the Ukrainian government has doneâthen standing up to Ukraine could become an especially popular way to stand up to the West. A recent New York Times piece about Putin noted âthe nationalist firebrands on prime-time talk shows and in Parliament who have been urging him for years to annex more of Ukraine.â
None of this is rocket science! Itâs not that hard to get at least a rough idea of the political and geopolitical factors shaping the thinking and actions of world leaders, and to then engage them accordingly. Yet our finest Blobsters, writing in our most esteemed Blob outletsâMcFaul in the Washington Post, Nichols in the Atlanticâsit around scratching their heads in abject befuddlement: This Putin character is so weird that thereâs no real point in seriously negotiating with him.
In defense of McFaul and Nicholsâand other Blobsters who also suffer from cognitive empathy deficitâthey may be victims of the cognitive bias known as attribution error. Attribution error can distort our perception of both allies and enemies. The way it works with enemies is that if they do something we consider bad, weâre inclined to attribute this behavior to their internal disposition, their basic characterânot to external circumstances.
So if, say, weâre trying to explain why an enemy is threatening to invade Ukraine, we discount explanations involving political and geopolitical circumstance and embrace explanations that locate the problem in the enemyâs fundamental dispositionâin his âemotional and visceral attachment to Ukraineâ or, more vaguely, in a peculiar âanalytical frameworkâ thatâs hard for us rational westerners to grok.
In any event, whatever the roots of cognitive empathy deficit and other unfortunate Blob-typical tendencies that have surfaced lately, the damage is done: Once again, it seems, the Blob has prevailed. Thanks to people like McFaul and Nichols, there was, so far as we can tell, no serious attempt to negotiate with Putinâto offer the kinds of concessions that lay discernibly at the core of his motivation. And now that Putin has recognized Ukraineâs breakaway republics and ordered troops into themâan act of aggression and a plain violation of international lawâthe political costs for Biden of making concessions will be even higher. (And the real costs of making concessionsâin terms of the magnitude of wrongdoing that would now be rewardedâis higher.)
As the aggression unfoldsâand possibly expands well beyond the Donbass region that comprises these two republicsâexpect to hear people like McFaul and Nichols claim vindication: Putinâs as bad and irrational as they said he was! You may even hear some Hitler analogies.
But remember: What weâre seeing from here on out is what Putin did after we followed the advice of McFaul and Nichols and refused to negotiate seriously with him. What weâre seeing is what happens when you donât try âappeasement.â
Note: Obviously, we donât know for sure what concessions might have forestalled Russian invasion. But in late January Foreign Minister Lavrov signaled that the NATO-Ukraine concession, along with concessions about missile placement in Europe, would have done the trick. Also obviously, I donât know what the Biden administration may have offered Putin in private. Itâs conceivable that they offered more than we know about. (But beware: Now that negotiations have failed, the administration may try to make its private offers to Putin sound more accommodating than they were.) In any event, this piece is only partly about what seems to have been Bidenâs failure to seriously negotiate. It is also about the undeniable fact that mainstream media devoted virtually no time or space to people who were advocating serious negotiation.
Zooey
ModeratorBy Chris Hedges /Â Original to ScheerPost
<p class=”has-drop-cap”>Iwas in Eastern Europe in 1989, reporting on the revolutions that overthrew the ossified communist dictatorships that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was a time of hope. NATO, with the breakup of the Soviet empire, became obsolete. President Mikhail Gorbachev reached out to Washington and Europe to build a new security pact that would include Russia. Secretary of State James Baker in the Reagan administration, along with the West German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher, assured the Soviet leader that if Germany was unified NATO would not be extended beyond the new borders. The commitment not to expand NATO, also made by Great Britain and France, appeared to herald a new global order. We saw the peace dividend dangled before us, the promise that the massive expenditures on weapons that characterized the Cold War would be converted into expenditures on social programs and infrastructures that had long been neglected to feed the insatiable appetite of the military.</p>
There was a near universal understanding among diplomats and political leaders at the time that any attempt to expand NATO was foolish, an unwarranted provocation against Russia that would obliterate the ties and bonds that happily emerged at the end of the Cold War.How naive we were. The war industry did not intend to shrink its power or its profits. It set out almost immediately to recruit the former Communist Bloc countries into the European Union and NATO. Countries that joined NATO, which now include Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia were forced to reconfigure their militaries, often through hefty loans, to become compatible with NATO military hardware.
There would be no peace dividend. The expansion of NATO swiftly became a multi-billion-dollar bonanza for the corporations that had profited from the Cold War. (Poland, for example, just agreed to spend $ 6 billion on M1 Abrams tanks and other U.S. military equipment.) If Russia would not acquiesce to again being the enemy, then Russia would be pressured into becoming the enemy. And here we are. On the brink of another Cold War, one from which only the war industry will profit while, as W. H. Auden wrote, the little children die in the streets.
The consequences of pushing NATO up to the borders with Russia â there is now a NATO missile base in Poland 100 miles from the Russian border â were well known to policy makers. Yet they did it anyway. It made no geopolitical sense. But it made commercial sense. War, after all, is a business, a very lucrative one. It is why we spent two decades in Afghanistan although there was near universal consensus after a few years of fruitless fighting that we had waded into a quagmire we could never win.
<p class=”has-drop-cap”>In a classified diplomatic cable obtained and released by WikiLeaks dated February 1, 2008, written from Moscow, and addressed to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, NATO-European Union Cooperative, National Security Council, Russia Moscow Political Collective, Secretary of Defense, and Secretary of State, there was an unequivocal understanding that expanding NATO risked an eventual conflict with Russia, especially over Ukraine.</p>
âNot only does Russia perceive encirclement [by NATO], and efforts to undermine Russiaâs influence in the region, but it also fears unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences which would seriously affect Russian security interests,â the cable reads. âExperts tell us that Russia is particularly worried that the strong divisions in Ukraine over NATO membership, with much of the ethnic-Russian community against membership, could lead to a major split, involving violence or at worst, civil war. In that eventuality, Russia would have to decide whether to intervene; a decision Russia does not want to have to face. . . . Dmitri Trenin, Deputy Director of the Carnegie Moscow Center, expressed concern that Ukraine was, in the long-term, the most potentially destabilizing factor in U.S.-Russian relations, given the level of emotion and neuralgia triggered by its quest for NATO membership . . . Because membership remained divisive in Ukrainian domestic politics, it created an opening for Russian intervention. Trenin expressed concern that elements within the Russian establishment would be encouraged to meddle, stimulating U.S. overt encouragement of opposing political forces, and leaving the U.S. and Russia in a classic confrontational posture.âThe Obama administration, not wanting to further inflame tensions with Russia, blocked arms sales to Kiev. But this act of prudence was abandoned by the Trump and Biden administrations. Weapons from the U.S. and Great Britain are pouring into Ukraine, part of the $1.5 billion in promised military aid. The equipment includes hundreds of sophisticated Javelins and NLAW anti-tank weapons despite repeated protests by Moscow.
The United States and its NATO allies have no intention of sending troops to Ukraine. Rather, they will flood the country with weapons, which is what it did in the 2008 conflict between Russia and Georgia.
<p class=”has-drop-cap”>The conflict in Ukraine echoes the novel âChronicle of a Death Foretoldâ by Gabriel Garcia Marquez. In the novel it is acknowledged by the narrator that âthere had never been a death more foretoldâ and yet no one was able or willing to stop it. All of us who reported from Eastern Europe in 1989 knew the consequences of provoking Russia, and yet few have raised their voices to halt the madness. The methodical steps towards war took on a life of their own, moving us like sleepwalkers towards disaster.</p>
Once NATO expanded into Eastern Europe, the Clinton administration promised Moscow that NATO combat troops would not be stationed in Eastern Europe, the defining issue of the 1997 NATO-Russia Founding Act on Mutual Relations. This promise again turned out to be a lie. Then in 2014 the U.S. backed a coup against the Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych who sought to build an economic alliance with Russia rather than the European Union. Of course, once integrated into the European Union, as seen in the rest of Eastern Europe, the next step is integration into NATO. Russia, spooked by the coup, alarmed at the overtures by the EU and NATO, then annexed Crimea, largely populated by Russian speakers. And the death spiral that led us to the conflict currently underway in Ukraine became unstoppable.The war state needs enemies to sustain itself. When an enemy canât be found, an enemy is manufactured. Putin has become, in the words of Senator Angus King, the new Hitler, out to grab Ukraine and the rest of Eastern Europe. The full-throated cries for war, echoed shamelessly by the press, are justified by draining the conflict of historical context, by elevating ourselves as the saviors and whoever we oppose, from Saddam Hussein to Putin, as the new Nazi leader.
I donât know where this will end up. We must remember, as Putin reminded us, that Russia is a nuclear power. We must remember that once you open the Pandoraâs box of war it unleashes dark and murderous forces no one can control. I know this from personal experience. The match has been lit. The tragedy is that there was never any dispute about how the conflagration would start.
Zooey
ModeratorI am reading around, and from what I am learning, I have to say I really don’t understand the reactions I’m seeing all over the place.
I mean…invading is bad, and killing people is bad, and I’m opposed to that.
But to see the reactions of people on Fb and T, it’s as if everyone thinks Putin has done something incomprehensibly crazy and uncalled for, and they’re SHOCKED! Weirdly, on the same day, Israel bombed the shit out of Syria, and the US bombed Somalia, and I don’t see the same sense of outrage. There was a very short piece in the NYT about the Somalia strike that contained this fun sentence:
The command said it was still trying to determine how many Shabab insurgents had been killed in the strike, but it said no civilians were believed to have been harmed.
They can’t tell how many dead people there are, but they know for sure none of them were civilians. Anyway…
So as far as I can gather, Ukraine is an inherently unstable country with a Russian-speaking eastern side, and a western side that speaks something else. They’ve had a series of corrupt, authoritarian grifters run the country as it vacillates between between pro-Russian and pro-western sympathies, and when the people started protesting against the corruption in 2014, the movement was co-opted by nazi sympathizers who took control. The US seems to have taken advantage of the situation since the Nazis are pro-EU, so they’ve been assisted financially by the US, presumably for the usual Empire reasons. Meanwhile, the US has broken its promises not to expand NATO, squashed a pipeline deal between Russia and Germany, and I can’t think of one good reason why Russia should be content with these developments.
So…world powers doing what world powers do. None of this is surprising or novel, as far as I can tell, so I don’t know why people are all changing their profiles to show solidarity with Ukraine while calling Putin an unstable madman when none of this seems very different from countless US military actions and CIA interference in sovereign countries that aren’t even right smack on our border.
Also, this new forum eats many of my posts for some reason.
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