I would rather you sawed your toes off, toe.

joemad wrote:

DeMarco Farr stated that during one of the game’s broadcast this season. 20 points was the magic number…..

Check your math… Rams would be 9-7, potentially 10-6 if you count the Vikings game if the Rams score 20 in regulation.

20 points would’ve resulted in victories in Baltimore, Minny and vs Steelers.

And losses against Seattle, Tampa Bay, and @ Arizona.

So you add 3 victories. And subtract 3 victories.

NERam wrote:

Somewhere I seem to recall reading that the Rams needed 20 points per game to win. That was their magic number.

I just went through the Rams schedule last season.

If the Rams had scored exactly 20 points in every single game last season, they would have ended up with a record of 7-9.

As opposed to their actual record of 7-9.

Dak wrote:

So much has been made about this presentation regarding the Inglewood plan. You’d think that the CEO of Disney could have come up with something equally or more exciting than the Rams’ organization. Looks like the Carson group dropped the ball.

I’ve thought the same thing.

But they really didn’t have material equal to Stan’s. They just didn’t. Carson had a nice stadium, and Stan had an entire development with parks and so forth, the NFL Live stuff.

The thing is that nobody knew it was going to come down to just the projects themselves. Because that’s what it did. Everybody could see Stan’s project was the coolest project ever. But we all thought there was a chance that other factors like Need, and Loyalty, and so on would also weigh in the scales.

Apparently not.

So Disney couldn’t work magic cuz all they had was a stadium.

bnw wrote:

So true. I remember when the ED was to be an indoor stadium and thinking how can anything top this? Watching football outside in St.Louis in December can by very nasty and the 70 degrees inside the dome sold tickets to be sure. Look at the Packers that sell out every year in that stadium in that weather! Can’t convince them they are missing out by not having a top 25% venue BS. Fiscal sanity always depends upon who is paying the freight and in their case it is the season ticket holders.

Exactly. When the Ed (TWA) first opened, is was this glorious stadium.

15 years later, it was a total piece of shit, and always had been. That’s the icing on the cake to me. People write about the dome like it ALWAYS sucked. It is so ridiculous. I mean, you would think the place had splintery wooden benches and outhouses.

I like the Coliseum, too. I always thought Candlestick park was fine, too. I liked the forum.

I can’t think of a stadium/arena I’ve been in where I once thought, “Wow, this needs hundreds of millions of dollars in upgrades.” They have all been perfectly serviceable.

New stadiums are produced by vanity and greed, not necessity. That’s for damn sure.

wv wrote:

Zooey wrote:

wv wrote:

“…it’s fair to wonder how difficult it will be for them to add to their staff with Fisher entering the fifth and final year of his contract.”

Gee thats so obvious
but i never thot of it.

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Yeah, but it depends on the contract they offer Shurmur. Or anyone else. Are they guaranteed money? For how long? Is it tied to Fisher’s deal?

Fisher isn’t going anywhere. In fact, I will be surprised if he isn’t extended before the end of the season.

Really? An extension before the end of the season?
I suppose so, but only if he has a winning record
after ten games or so.

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A big part of Fisher’s credentials in Stan’s eyes is that he moved from Houston, to Memphis, to Nashville.

He isn’t going to fire Fisher one year into Los Angeles.

InvaderRam wrote:

from what i understand with that weird plastic roof they have, you can’t grow the grass on the field while it’s in the stadium. they’d have to have a system to bring the grass in similar to what university of phoenix stadium has where it’s rolled outside the stadium and allowed to grow. of course with the estimated 3 billion in costs for this stadium. that probably isn’t a big deal. i’d want real grass.

That could be. The roof could cut out some of the UV rays or some of that sciencey kind of nutritional nourishment out of the sunshine.

InvaderRam wrote:

demoff said in the latest interview that they’re mulling it over.

seems hard to bring grass in considering the stadium will be built underground.

It wouldn’t be hard. Below ground level doesn’t make any difference. They would build a substructure with a drainage system and however they are going to irrigate, pour soil over the top of it, and then roll out the grass and let it grow.

If they win…oh, man. 30,000 PSLs owned by St. Louis fans? How much did they cost? A couple of grand each, weren’t they?

It would be something if the St. Louis fans could sell them on ebay, or whatever, at a profit and leave Stan without that particular trainload of money. That would be amusing.

nittany ram wrote:

wv wrote:

There’s an “NFL Campus” at the Kronkatorium.

An nfl campus.

What will they teach there?

w
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Ethics.

LOL

Please keep all of us updated on your continuing email interaction.

It’s a slow time of year.

Dak wrote:

I know of one Rams executive who showed up at the league meetings in Chicago in August (at the time of disturbances over the 1-year anniversary of Ferguson) and greeted a national writer w/the following: “Another day, another riot in St. Louis.”

Hmm, you’ll never see race riots in L.A.!

About this statement: It really gives you a glimpse into the culture of the St. Louis Rams’ organization. And, like any organization, that culture starts with the leader at the top. I’ll be interested in reading the PD’s story on Sunday, but just from JT’s chat here, it sure looks like what happened is that SK decided long ago that he would grow his fortune in L.A., and that everything the Rams’ organization did over the next few years would go toward that goal. Goodell was on board, and obviously knew more about that plan than he said publicly. It really wasn’t that long ago that the organization admitted that it was actively trying to move to L.A. Even after it came to light about the Inglewood site, the NFL and the Rams made comments to try to downplay it. Now, if you’re in the middle of a negotiation that could end up with your team staying in St. Louis, you would leverage that new property acquisition for a better deal in St. Louis. THERE WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A DEAL IN ST. LOUIS FOR STAN KROENKE. He was put all of his chips on L.A., and with Goodell as the dealer, he got the right cards in the end.

Btw, this has been hard, trying to ignore the NFL the past few weeks. The NFL Playoffs was always my favorite sporting event, even with the Rams rarely in it. But, I have to try. I haven’t missed a Super Bowl since I can remember. It will be really weird not having it on in my house. It’s SUPER weird not watching the playoffs. I actually turned on an old episode of Columbo during the Arizona-Green Bay game.

I gotta think that Kroenke started considering LA when Georgia wen into hospice, and got serious when Chip and Lucia acknowledged that they would sell.

And…there is an article at CBS right now that say the Rams have become the 3rd most valuable franchise in the NFL since the announcement. Where were they before? 2nd or 3rd from the bottom?

Yeah. Stan was not interested in St. Louis at all. Plan B may have been London. He wasn’t after a new stadium. He was after Something Bigger.

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Just as I said going back many years. Knowing of the top tier clause almost from its inception I knew in my heart it was in John Shaw’s mind that the Rams were eventually moving back to LA.

I have read this opinion voiced by other posters, too.

It is nonsense. Sure Shaw got St. Louis to put a clause in the lease that was likely to give the Rams an escape, but if Shaw’s plan was for the Rams to return to LA, he’s an idiot. They left LA for TWENTY YEARS! That’s plenty of time for some other team to move to LA, or for the NFL to put an expansion team there. In fact, I would say that nobody would have bet money that LA would still have no team in 2015.

Herzog wrote:

I can’t even imagine what a complex like that would bring in on a yearly basis.

Anyone?

More than all of us on this board combined will earn in our lifetimes.

There’s a casino. A 300-room hotel. 3,000 residences (mostly single-family and townhouses), a shopping center, and a 6,000 seat theatre.

Oh, and office space. 780,000 sq. feet of office space. The current average rental in LA county is $2.51 per sq. ft. per month for office space. So the office space alone will generate about $2 million each month IF they charge the AVERAGE rate which they probably won’t.

The stadium is supposed to seat 80,000 with another 20,000 in standing room. Let’s go with 80,000 times an average ticket price of $100 times ten home games. That is $80 million in tickets.