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December 7, 2016 at 5:13 pm in reply to: Sanders Nailed It On Identity Politics & Inequality & the MSM missed the point #60525
ZooeyModeratorGood read.
ZooeyModeratorHmm. Dick Cheney. Larry Summers. Woolsey. Rothschild. Murdoch. Who would have thought?
ZooeyModeratorWant:
Dunno. What I want is a better offense. My gut feeling is I want Turner as OC. I’d say keep Fisher, I guess, but I don’t feel strongly about it.
Think:
I think Fisher stays two more years. I think that is Kroenke’s preference. I think Kroenke wants the option of a new coach in the new facility, part of the ribbon cutting gala, but if the Rams are winning by then, he may extend Fisher into the new stadium. However, the second year of Fisher’s deal is Team Option. That tells me that Kroenke is tired of 7-9 bullshit, and Fisher knows that. That is what a 1 year deal with an option for a second year says. But I think it also says Fisher gets next year regardless, barring a Linehan level loss of the players. Bottom line: I think Fisher is here next year, but he has to have a winning season in order to make it to 2018.
December 7, 2016 at 12:30 am in reply to: Unless the Rams get good, their coach is fired PLASCHKE #60486ZooeyModeratorThe Rams have yet to publicly announce or even comment upon the extension, and why do you think that is?
Well, Bill, I think it’s because Stan doesn’t feel the need to come out and talk to you.
He conducts his business. Media is media, and he doesn’t think you are as important as you think you are.
Plaschke has a good reputation. And I like him. But this is the same standard issue, tea leaf reading BS that we have seen from many of his inferiors in journalism.
There is no inside information here. He doesn’t even pretend that he has any. He is making it up. Telling us what he feels.
Okay. So now we know he is in the “I feel Fisher is bad and want him gone” camp.
Got it.
December 6, 2016 at 11:45 pm in reply to: informal poll: what's wrong with the offense, can it pick up? #60481ZooeyModeratorAND GR progressing is good news cause since you have to expect the others will rebound from the Patz game to at least be okay again…then GR being improved will be useful.
Your optimism is depressing beyond all measure.
ZooeyModeratorI think conspiracy theories are probably about the same age as mass communications.
I imagine there have always been conspiracy theories. Which is another way of saying “projected explanations for things I don’t know about for sure.” I imagine that mass communications have enabled people to expand and more widely circulate those theories.
And, yeah, I think the fact that we are plainly marinated in lies from government and businesses and authority structures of all kinds provides fertilizer for their growth. When one is plainly being lied to, one speculates as to what the truth actually is.
ZooeyModerator“… we have been providing universal health care in this city for nearly a decade, and if the new administration follows through on its callous promise to revoke health insurance from 20 million people, San Franciscans will be protected; and, be it..”
What does that mean? How can a city provide ‘universal health care’ ?
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vDunno. Wondered that myself.
December 6, 2016 at 6:19 pm in reply to: informal poll: what's wrong with the offense, can it pick up? #60450ZooeyModerator—————-
Well the Oline is the story of the year. The mystery story.I predicted about ten wins and a playoff berth in large part because i expected the Oline to be a team strength. What a disaster.
I am an oline skeptic at this point. An oline denier. I am afraid…that i just think…they are not good players.
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vI expect they will be picking some OL. Probably more mediocre WRs. A LB.
Anyway. I’m not in the mood for draft talk.
But I fear that the players just aren’t good, too. How can they have gone 12 games without opening a hole for Gurley? Like…ever? Unless they just lose every battle? Because I have to think they know their blocking assignments. I don’t understand it. It’s not like they have faced the Purple People Eaters every week.
Goff is where most of us will pin the majority of our hopes for improvement, and as of now, that looks like a pretty good place for them. And I hope the OL pulls its head out, and grows into mediocrity.
And I hope they run Austin more, and throw more screens to Gurley, and I think I have a Norv Turner fantasy abrew.
December 6, 2016 at 3:31 pm in reply to: informal poll: should the Patz even bother to show up? #60437ZooeyModeratorIt is the same defense that looked pretty bad against the 49ers, you may recall. The ONLY game the 49ers have won all year.
Who will win the rematch?
I cannot wait to see that game. All the epic 9er/Rams battles over the decades! This one promising to be among the most tightly contested fiascos in that proud history.
ZooeyModeratorThe QB has to learn an entire new language.
And Marshall Faulk because he’s Marshall Faulk.
The OL have to learn just OL language, not route tree language.
But that aside, do you think – twelve weeks into the season – that there have been no plays called where the OL understood the blocking assignments before they arrived from the huddle at the line of scrimmage?
Because they SUCK. They have sucked all year long. They have blocked for Todd Gurley and the team has mounted fewer than 80 yards rushing in 8 out of 12 games this season. I just do not accept that that is a result of not knowing their blocking assignments well enough. That cannot account for this ineptitude this deep into the season. I just do not buy that explanation as adequate to explain what we see Every Single Week. The RBs are consistently getting hit earlier than any other RBs in the league. Game after game.
December 6, 2016 at 10:33 am in reply to: Army Corps Denies Easement and Blocks the Dakota Access Pipeline #60419ZooeyModeratorI DO care, in terms of the subject of this thread, about a president making a fundamentally important policy decision that is clouded by his own direct financial conflict of interest.
Trump sells his stake in Dakota Access Pipeline developer: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/trump-sells-stake-dakota-access-193419610.html
So he already had sold his stake of between $15K -$50K. To him that is peanuts. Lets assume his net worth is $1 billion. $50K is 5% of $1 million. Therefore $50K is 0.0001% of $1 billion. So to put that in perspective of a guy whose net worth is $200K (house paid off or considerable equity, savings, personal property etc.) that is $20. Yes, $20. Insignificant. It is why discussing this stuff with liberal minds is so frustrating.
And the reason it is frustrating to discuss this stuff with conservative minds is that you made up your mind to defend Trump well before you knew how big of a stake he had in the pipeline, and would be undeterred in your defense of him if it was $80 million. And, of course, it took a “liberal” to bring you the facts in the first place.
ZooeyModeratorOkay, but I don’t know what “new system” means.
I don’t mean to be flippant, but there’s zone blocking, and man blocking, right? I don’t know these things because the only football I ever played was, “Zooey, go to the corner of the hedge, and cut hard towards the elm tree….”
But how effing difficult can this be? You’re a blocker. Block. That’s your job. Push this guy aside, and create a seam.
The fact that I am deciding between a condo in Malibu and beach house in Santa Monica shouldn’t affect the outcome of that mano a mano contest. Especially 12 weeks into the season when that decision has been made, and I have already got carpet stains in my new place.
December 6, 2016 at 10:09 am in reply to: Wondering why the Rams gave Jeff Fisher an extension? Here’s one good reason #60417ZooeyModeratorIt’s a good article, and bound to offend many recordites.
P.S. Would #77 be under consideration for a holding penalty in the photo?
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December 5, 2016 at 8:15 pm in reply to: Army Corps Denies Easement and Blocks the Dakota Access Pipeline #60378ZooeyModeratorRed Herring?
NO!!!
Nothing of the sort!
ZooeyModeratorPeople have talked crap about me for years. But I had a sports show on a community access channel, but it is the nature of the business. Jeff Fisher is an NFL Head Coach. He and his staff are in the business to get criticized. If they have problems getting criticized, or having crap talk about them, then they are in the wrong field or business.
Well, Jack, I bet Jeff Fisher isn’t losing sleep over your criticism.
So he probably isn’t in the wrong field of business.
ZooeyModeratorI dont buy the “they had all this time” thing. So did every team that ever moved, and of them all, only one of them won. It just causes problems, and that includes having a first time OC install essentially a new offense for the first time during a move. In fact it’s LESS time than all those other teams had because the Rams are the first team to ever move since they cut back the amount of time teams can practice.
The problems they had this year remind me of 2011, and the way the Rams offense was out of sync then. Well that was the year they put in the McDaniels offense without an off-season. I saw the same level of out-of-syncness this year. It looks very similar to me.
I am a diehard contextista and that stuff is real. When I see it dismissed, I always only think, yeah well why are you dismissing something real.
And if the OLs guys they drafted aren’t very good why were they better as a unit by the end of 2015 after they settled after a bunch of injuries.
And Goff could improve from where he was before because he was a non-starting rookie qb with one on one qb coaching, with time to work on his game…something starters do not have since they have to work on implementing gameplans.
Okay, well, it is one thing to say that teams had bad years after they moved. How did those records compare with the previous year, though?
Who has moved, and what kind of team were they the year before they moved? Can you show that teams that moved mostly did worse the year they moved, or were they just bad?
The Cardinals moved. They were pretty much a lousy team anyway.
The Raiders and Rams were lousy when they left LA.
The Houston Oilers were bad when they moved.
The Colts were bad when they moved to Indianapolis.I really don’t know what we are talking about with that claim.
But the Rams showed all the signs of being a team on the rise last year. And the defense hasn’t been bad this year. Erratic, maybe. A few bad games. But overall, they seem to have been pretty good. Fewer sacks, fewer turnovers, but in the same ballpark.
The offense, though….It’s like the offense was more adversely affected by moving than the defense. And if that is the case, then Moving isn’t the main reason.
I think it is more likely that Boras’ system is the culprit, and I haven’t heard anybody claim Boras is some kind of offensive wizard with arcane schemes that take time.
To me…all signs point to Boras. Everything does.
And I admit I have Zero positive evidence to blame Boras. But it’s like…eliminate every other possibility and what remains must be true. I have been wanting to blame Boras for several weeks, and I just can’t work my way out of doing that, no matter how hard I try to find other explanations.
December 5, 2016 at 6:12 pm in reply to: Army Corps Denies Easement and Blocks the Dakota Access Pipeline #60365ZooeyModeratorSorry he isn’t mired in poverty for you.
Well that was a gigantic red herring.
I could give a crap about his money.
I DO care, in terms of the subject of this thread, about a president making a fundamentally important policy decision that is clouded by his own direct financial conflict of interest.
Fundamentally important policy decision my ass. Where were you democrats giving a shit about Buffet dangerously shipping oil by the train car directly through towns and at a far higher cost? Was there an EIS or even an EA for that given existing rail lines? Would like to see the safety implications if any that were identified.
Yeah thats right,
Silence.
Trump will look at the merit of the COE decision. Until a decision is made its nothing but conjecture.
So you respond to the accusation of using a red herring with another red herring.
Okay.
It really does seem to be your signature rhetorical move.
ZooeyModeratorWell the Rams are going to have to make some serious decisions. If the move is the cause of the problem–then I guess you keep the same guys next year and hope for the best. If the players are the problem–which ones? Who do you replace? And how? What is the quickest fix? If coaching is the problem then someone has to go.
The best situation is if the move was the problem. That won’t be a problem next year.
Of course if it’s some combination–well, it gets more complicated.
Move or not–they have not been able to fix it through twelve games. How long does a move hangover last? I’m not sold on the move explanation(see–I used an E word but not the other E word). At this point in the season the running game should be better–even if there were early stutters. I’d accept that more in the early schedule. Not so much now.
So for me, that leaves players or coaches.
I believe there will be changes. But the Rams have very few options considering the lack of draft choices. I’m not sure how much of an upgrade they will make. Coaching changes would not surprise me. I can see someone falling on the sword.
In any case–they have to address it.
Yeah, you just said that a lot better than I did. That is just it. They’ve had OTAs, Training Camp, preseason games, 12 games, and a bye week.
If Jared Goff can make the strides HE made while getting no playing time, those players on the OL should be better with 3/4 of the season gone. You’re right. If the move played a role, we should have seen improvement as the season progressed, but the running game just totally sucks.
Players or coaches.
The thing is that Boudreau is a very good coach. We’ve seen him work magic with a shattered Rams line, and elsewhere in the league. So what the hell? Now I have said several times I question the game schemes/playcalling (and I am not one to question playcalling usually – like I never jumped on the playcalling issue with previous OCs).
So. Maybe the guys they drafted just aren’t very good.
I wanna see the individual PFF rankings for these guys, or read some posts by some of the line play guys. RFL would be useful here, perhaps, if he is watching the Rams this year.
ZooeyModeratorOn the “cohesion” question, I just have to say that that was a bigger issue last year. A bunch of rookies etc. They played together last year. They had another full training camp, OTAs, and we are now 12 games in. I know there were distractions. But I just think it is a stretch to blame OL problems on the move. So ZN and I are just going to have to accept that we are lifelong enemies there.
December 5, 2016 at 2:27 pm in reply to: As Breitbart wages "war" on Kellogg’s, advertisers flee #60348ZooeyModeratorActually, and unfortunately, Hekker is their best weapon. How about that 76 yard punt? That was more impressive in person than it would be on TV.
I had the same response to the 78-yarder against the Bills. You just wouldn’t get the sense of that on TV. On TV, a long punt is “Oh, cool.” In the stadium, it was just, “Holy ####!”
The Rams have to get it together and win a ring for Hekker’s sake.
ZooeyModeratorAnd I am something that starts with a P. Was it a Pragmaticite? I’m not sure that’s right.
Anyway, one thing I’m sure of, Fisher will get an extension for two years because that is what makes sense from ownership’s point of view.
Now, when exactly that deal gets done, and when it is announced, I don’t know, but…
What?
Oh, right.
ZooeyModeratorIt is logically inconsistent to say that all Stan cares about is making money, and he doesn’t care about winning. There is a direct correlation between the two. Yes, Stan has constructed his business so that he is going to make money even if the Rams lose – which in every quarter except Fandom is considered smart – but he will make a lot more if he wins.
He will sell more tickets, and sell them at higher prices. He will sell more merchandise, and the value of the franchise will go up.
Of course Stan wants to win.
And he has more confidence than the fans do that Fisher can win. And all that means is that Rams fans and Stan disagree.
As for Bonsignore, count this among the many columns of his I won’t bother to read. He is just another homer fan with a hard hat with two beers and a straw. I already know what he is going to say most of the time. If Fisher wins, Bonsignore will trot out the column claiming that people “got” to him, and made him make the necessary adjustments.
Whatever. I am sick and tired of losing, too. But I am in no way convinced that Fisher is the reason they are losing, let alone of the likelihood of his imaginary replacement being more successful. Until there are reports that he has lost the team, like we had with Linehan, I am inclined to just wait and see.
I am certainly interested in reading conversations about Norv Turner coming in, though.
ZooeyModeratorAre you wearing a Dickerson jersey? Cuz I saw that guy.
ZooeyModeratorif they tank the rest of the way and fans revolt?
They won’t care.
They will assume they can rally in 2017 and that winning puts an end to the “revolt.”
Exactly. One playoff berth in the next two years, and all the pissing and moaning among fans evaporates and disappears.
ZooeyModeratorI watched all of it. I enjoyed it a lot.
I thought he was very good on explaining the Trumpets. I previously agreed with him on Trump’s appeal here, but was very interested in his knowledge of how the same thing is happening throughout Europe, and how it is manifesting in right wing populism when there is no left wing alternative. That was interesting…and worrying. I thought he was also good on the entire post WWI sweep of economics. I think he might have added that Europe and America were on different courses, though up until 1980. Well, that’s what I think, anyway. I think post WWII Europe, in particular, clearly headed in a more socially equitable direction than America did. And I think the Reagan/Thatcher alliance was the beginning of Europe being “neo-liberalised” American-style. The destruction of unions was crucial to our current circumstances.
I was curious about his comment that after WWII, the west pushed for Full Employment because, of course, that was happening in the Eastern bloc, and so to cut off any interest in a shift to the left at that turning point in history, capital kind of took care of the working and middle classes so they wouldn’t “get any ideas.”
I am also interested in this idea of “mincome.” I have heard that it has been implemented somewhere in Europe – I don’t remember where. Such a concept is anathema to Americans, of course, who have been trained to think their virtue is measured by how much of their life they spend working. I can’t see the idea gaining traction here, but I would love to know more about that.
And…yeah…on the short video WV posted. Isn’t that just the perfect stat to unveil to all those people who think raising the minimum wage will cost business too much?
December 4, 2016 at 11:40 am in reply to: Clinton’s “Corrupt Establishment” Is Now Advising Donald Trump #60190ZooeyModeratorLets see how he governs.
This IS Trump governing, bnw.
December 4, 2016 at 11:38 am in reply to: Clinton’s “Corrupt Establishment” Is Now Advising Donald Trump #60187ZooeyModeratorSurprise, surprise.
Who could have seen THAT coming?
Oh…I know. Everybody.
This guy has set a new record for breaking campaign promises. Before he has even taken the oath of office.
Here is one more thing to expect from a Trump presidency: a new record for vacation days taken by a president, though Bush’s record will be tough to beat. (And nary a peep about his vacation time by the right wing hacks that complain about Obama golfing all the time).
Obama, btw, took less than half the vacation days that Bush did.
ZooeyModeratorI used to post those all the time, and then I more or less lost track of him on the net. Thanks for those. He just…has a way, doesn’t he?
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