McVay > Boras

If I’m a 9er fan, after I get over the loss, the thing that’s going to bug me a lot longer is the realization that Jared Goff isn’t a bust, and could well haunt the 9ers for a decade.

Tavon Austin is less valuable to this team than Amp Lee was to the GSOT. There are 13 more games for him to find a useful role. The jet sweep is nice…but somebody else could do that for 1/10th the salary.

I miss Janoris Jenkins. He would have been a better investment than Austin.

Donald looked better than the Washington game. But I felt like the announcers were gushing over him last night because announcers have their “Drool Points” on a 3 x 5 card. I am happy to see these other DL playing well. That’s the really good news. I don’t know what’s going on up front, but I’m concerned it may the LBs. I’m waiting for the tape watchers to give me something.

That was an important win. A loss there would have been devastating, against the crappy 9ers – Again! – and after surrendering a lead they should never have lost in the first place. 2-1 is much, much, much better than 1-2 with a division loss to a bad team they lost both games to last year.

And…as I said before…this is almost like a bye week coming up. They won the short week thing, and now they have time to rest and get some stuff worked out on defense.

Exciting game. Rough 4th quarter. Arrow definitely pointing up, especially on offense.

Is there a cover charge?

I predict suicidal thoughts if the Rams lose.

I am not certain they need more swag. I was thinking More Points would be good.

Okay, well, I admit I’m not a professional football player.

But I have never understood how punters can be so damn inaccurate, and that when someone like Hekker comes around, he’s a bloody marvel.

Punting.

That’s your job. Your DAY job. It’s the thing you do all day, every day. Punt. How hard can it be to punt with accuracy when that’s what you practice all day?

zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

I don’t know. But we are moving into High Concern area.

nittany ram wrote:

I don’t think these videos are evidence of a problem with Gurley.

To be fair. I am not sure anyone really knows yet.

Here’s the other view. In this podcast: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/gonzalez-joins-bill-barnwell-to-discuss-the-rams-podcast/ Gonzalez, the Rams ESPN guy (LA’s David Wagoner if you will), says that regardless what the numbers say in terms of how many are in the box etc., if you watch the game tape it’s pretty clear that defenses are still geared toward taking Gurley away. In spite of that, Gonzalez says that at practice you clearly see TG is a very talented back.

So this is a mystery right now. Who knows yet. I have my doubts about Gurley as a back but I don’t have any final coffin nails yet.

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Right.

And I will add this: if Goff continues to put up 240 – 300 yards a game, and Gurley doesn’t get free, it’s Gurley. Because pretty soon, DCs are going to recognize they have a problem with Kupp, Watkins, et al.

wv wrote:

Wonder why X disagrees with us on the anti-nazi thing?

Maybe he’ll explain it.

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The conservative media have been banging away that Antifa are violent commies who have started all the fights, and who are much more inherently violent than the Fascists who – it they were just left alone – would just march a little bit in small numbers, then go home without any consequence to society. That’s the unbroken storyline on the right.

So…you’re recommending people inhale sanitizers? Seems…dangerous to me. Even irresponsible of you.

PA Ram wrote:

The Rams are under a media blackout.

Last night–on the pre-game for the Cowboys/Giants, they weren’t mentioned. On Good Morning Football today–at least the first hour and a half–they didn’t show highlights and only mentioned them in saying that the Jags had a great defense for fantasy and tied the Rams.

All they want to talk about is one of the most boring games in history–the Cowboys/Giants snorefest.

I know they beat a bad team but that game had exciting highlights–big plays.

Cowboys!!!! Packers!!!!! Giants!!!!! Seahawks!!!! Packers!!!

That’s pretty much the show.

‘Twas always thus, and always thus will be.

6 games worth of highlights in one game.

Cooper Kupp looks like he may live up to the hype.

And the TD to Kupp…Goff just has TIME. He’s waiting for somebody to come clear underneath first, close to the marker, and when he doesn’t, Goff lasers it to Kupp.

Protect Goff, and the Rams are going to win a lot of games.

Man, I’m telling you. If they just had a FB, they would be looking at century burgers.

The arrow is pointing up.

To overstate the obvious, the Colts are not the same without Luck, the running game looked as bad as last year, their third down conversion percentage was ungood, there was a lot of sloppy tackling, and there were too many penalties bunched up early in the game.

On the bright side, they settled down re: penalties, Gurley was effective catching the ball, the play action worked, the Rams now have several receiving targets, the defense appears to be more focused on takeaways than last year (based not only on the numbers and the 16 points, but also on some attempted strips I saw), and the mid-range passing was connecting. Oh…and Goff had time. Those are all good things, and I think significant improvements.

To state one more obvious observation: it’s only one game.

But…arrow point up.

— X — wrote:

It’s not a matter of looking at selective ‘sites’ to get a perspective of how out-of-whack the number of these Antifa fucks are in comparison to neonazis, or the KKK, or racists, or Supremacists, or whatever else we Conservatives are now. I’m not a fan of White Supremacists either, but let’s not pretend they’re suddenly some huge organization that benefited from Trump being elected President by having their ranks swell exponentially via the awakening of dormant supporters (which is what the media is leading people to believe). Their numbers are miniscule in comparison to the population. Antifa, on the other hand, isn’t some club you can join. It’s a movement consisting of members from all walks of life who don’t possess the intellectual capacity to differentiate between Conservatism and pure, unadulterated hate groups. And for that, I blame the education system. Specifically Universities. The shit young adults are being taught now is negligent.

Talk about the need for border security – you’re a racist.
Talk about the need for a stronger military – you’re an imperialist.
Talk about the decline of morality – you’re a religious zealot (and intolerant)
Dispute the claim that global warming is indisputable – you’re a moron.
Failure to acknowledge income inequality – you’re privileged (horeshit)
You’re white? Holy shit are you evil.
and so on, and so on.

I don’t expect you (or 99% of this board) to acknowledge that the left is destroying Western Civilization. It’s only my opinion based on the way I see things unfolding now (and over the past decade). But I do expect some of you to acknowledge that this whole “White Supremacy” thing is WAYYYYYY overblown, and only became a dangerous threat about 8 months ago. And again, for no other reason than it was suggested and/or conjured. Not because it’s any more prevalent than it was 8 years ago.

I want to ask you a few things because I think I can ask you and get a straight answer, whereas talking online with other conservatives usually goes badly. I mean…these conversations often go off the rails, and become hopeless. I know you well enough that I think if I accidentally offend you, you won’t take it personally.

First of all…an observation. This isn’t meant to be a judgement, just an observation. A few of the attitudes you express here seem to me to be what must be circulating amongst the conservative media outlets because I see the same stuff repeated by others.

Namely:

1. Neo-Nazis are a small, insignificant group and the Left is over-reacting.
2. Antifa is worse, and more violent. (This is always couched in terms of, “I’m not a racist, but…).
3. Universities are basically leftist indoctrination machines, and not to be trusted.
4. The Left says that being a white male is bad in and of itself.
5. The issue with Illegal Immigration has nothing to do with race; it has to do with Legality

On 1 & 2: From my point of view, the logic here doesn’t hold up. The very standard of measurement you and other conservatives hold up here seems to me to lead to the opposite conclusion. First of all, you are dismissing nazis by saying there aren’t many of them. But there are far fewer Antifa. There are hardly any. They popped up in Berkeley, and Portland, I think. But they are not showing up in any significant numbers anywhere. They are a minority amongst the counter-protesters even at the events they do show up at. You complained earlier about the Left’s lack of intellectual ability to distinguish subgroups…well….? And secondly, we KNOW that the folks in Charlottesville showed up ready to rumble, and not just because they came literally armed. There are emails and forum posts that talk about mixing it up before they even went up there. And look who got arrested. So the narrative doesn’t even match what the police did and said. Furthermore, FFS, it was a nazi who drove a car into counter-protesters killing one and injuring 19, as you well know, and they weren’t Antifa, either. As zn pointed out, on the one hand there is a group that stereotypes large numbers of people and actively promotes discrimination (and worse!) against all of those people, and on the other side, a group of people whose ONLY motive is to stop that movement from taking on any legitimacy whatsoever. And, yes, they use violence to do so, and shouldn’t. In my view, the nazis or worse. They discriminate with a very broad brush, whereas Antifa is targeted exclusively on stopping the legitimacy of hatred. So when you come out and say, “Fascists are bad, but they don’t really matter because there aren’t many of them. Anti-fascists are worse” even though there are even fewer of them, the conclusion I draw is this (and tell me how I’m wrong): You don’t like the fascists, but you recognize that you share other common purposes outside the realm of race, so they are a shitty ally, but they are an ally nonetheless in the war against the Left, and that matters more to you than the “numerically insignificant” racist stuff. That’s what I get.

On number 3: I don’t know what to say. I don’t think there is any way to have dialogue on this because people see what they want to see here. I can only say this point of view makes me very sad because I personally have a great deal of faith in mankind’s collective ability to advance knowledge and understanding, and universities are the best institution for those advances for a variety of reasons. I think distrust of universities is literally imperiling civilization.

#4: They don’t say that, and by “they,” I mean thoughtful, calm, educated people on the Left, including Liberals. I completely understand how it feels that way, and I have personally been attacked for being a white male myself. But…to me…that gets back to the Broad Brush issue. Personally, I don’t believe that there is a correlation between political ideology and intelligence. There are plenty of idiots on my side of the fence. My son and I have made a hobby of pointing out the morons we largely agree with.

#5. Well. This isn’t going to go well. My problem here is that if this was really about Law and Order, and Legality, the people complaining about this would also have complained about Joe Arpaio. We have all kinds of legal violations going on in this country, and the Right is selective in its outrage about this fact. This just really looks to me like sophistry, to some extent the same kind of rationalization that is used in 1 & 2 above. “We really care about law and process HERE, but over there it doesn’t really matter.” We can’t let foreign countries get away with violating international laws, but we can violate them because we have a good reason to. Obama’s executive orders are a gross violation of government, but the fact that he issued fewer than Reagan and either of the Bushes isn’t mentioned. You know…illegal immigrants pay more in taxes than many Fortune 500 corporations do.

Finally…last thing…and maybe, actually, the thing I most want to know…

How the hell is Left destroying Western Civilization? What does that mean?

Football season has started?

Holy crap. I am spending too much of my life doing unimportant things if it’s Saturday, and I just learned the Patriots’ unbeaten season has been destroyed.

Okay. Someone go get Aaron Donald, and let’s get started.

I feel bad about thinking this…but it seems to me it would be best if it hit Houston.