zn wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Wait…didn’t we get Miami’s 4th?

And where is the Rams’ 4th?

Rams 4th was traded for Peters.

It is the year of 4ths and 6ths.

Zooey wrote:

First of all…that equals 9, so I make a motion that zn is removed as Treasurer of the Board.

No it’s 10. 1 1st, 1 3rd, 2 4ths, 1 5th, and 5 6ths.

But you didn’t list two 4ths. You said 111 or 130.

Give me your badge.

zn wrote:

Now its:

Round 1 (23)
no round 2
Round 3 (87)
Round 4 (111 or 130)
…tba, Giants
Round 5 (160)
Round 6 (5 picks, including one going to Miami and one coming from NYG)
no round 7

10 picks total.

…

First of all…that equals 9, so I make a motion that zn is removed as Treasurer of the Board.

Thirdly, what the hell does a team even do with 5 picks in the 6th round? Feels like taking a handful of darts and chucking them all at once towards the dartboard. Maybe we trade those 5 6th rounders to Cleveland for their 1st round pick, and explain that 5 picks times the 6th round equals 30, whereas their one 1st round pick is worthless. They might be dum enough to go for that. It is Cleveland, after all.

Well…either these guys are big dummies, or they’re geniuses. They are bold.

If they keep Watkins and TruJo out of this, sign Donald, Gurley, and Goff…well…I give up Quinn and Ogletree and Austin for that. Yeah. I mean…some people have to go…and it’s only business to look at the size of paychecks, and who’s earning what. And Austin isn’t earning that salary, and Quinn is clearly on the downside, even if he can be a quality player for another couple of seasons. And Tree probably isn’t worth that money, though I am less sure of that one. I don’t know what Wade needs his linebackers to do, and what it costs for the guys that can do those things.

I am stunned. I saw this on my phone earlier, and couldn’t get here until now. You guys aren’t helping me. I need some explanation.

Tree isn’t my favorite player. He wasn’t going into my Ring of Fame. But he seemed decent. And I saw some upside still, since he was just moved to MLB.

So…I have faith in Wade. I think he knows what he is doing. Tree doesn’t fit his scheme. Okay. But…

The Rams run a 3-4.

And right now, I’m not sure they even have 4 LBs on the roster. WTF? Quinn’s gone, and AO is gone now. And Barwin is a FA, and there is talk of not keeping Barron.

Where are we now?

I mean…we have about a dozen picks in the 4th round now. Is the LB draft pool especially deep so that there will be 6 or 8 starters available in the 4th?

This move surprised me. But…uh…these guys have a track record of knowing what they are doing, so I will just sit here and wait for the next spectacle. I guess.

I heard on the radio that they haven’t had a raise in 4 years. And any contract they are getting now will be a multi-year contract, probably 3 years.

So they are getting an average raise of…0.7% per year.

While I think this is the smarter move, I think it will probably cost them Watkins. Somebody is going to pay him more than the Rams will. Maybe the 49ers who have a lot of cap room and no WRs for Garapalo to throw to.

Billy_T wrote:

On the “millennials want free stuff” nonsense.

Right. And Maher is just perpetuating the fraud that getting services from the government in exchange for your tax money is “mooching.” Americans have been brainwashed into resenting the sliver of the budget that goes to people who pay less in taxes than they do while never noticing that the lion’s share of their taxes are being directed into corporate profits, very often corporations who are harming society in significant ways.

What a world.

I just don’t know what little guys are supposed to do about a political and economic system which is completely rigged for the benefit of a tiny minority when the vast majority of the victims of the system believe to their cores that the problems are caused by other victims of the system.

Introduction to Poetry
BY BILLY COLLINS

I ask them to take a poem
and hold it up to the light
like a color slide

or press an ear against its hive.

I say drop a mouse into a poem
and watch him probe his way out,

or walk inside the poem’s room
and feel the walls for a light switch.

I want them to waterski
across the surface of a poem
waving at the author’s name on the shore.

But all they want to do
is tie the poem to a chair with rope
and torture a confession out of it.

They begin beating it with a hose
to find out what it really means.

Gonzalez is pretty good. I enjoy reading his stuff. He’s got the Jim Thomas role, I suppose, and he’s good at it.

I wonder about Barwin. Sure, he’s a UFA, but he isn’t going to get any money anywhere. I mean…the Rams can afford Barwin without thinking twice. He wasn’t particularly impressive to me last season, but he knows what he’s doing, and they need somebody there. I would think the Rams would make an effort to keep him. Especially if Barron doesn’t fit. You don’t really want to give up on 3 LBs in the same offseason.

zn wrote:

Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinny

Cooper is a better, more powerful, instinctual runner than Austin (on sweeps & out of backfield) and a better WR. Will add to that role

Yeah, I don’t know about that. More powerful, perhaps. But I think there is a dropoff. Just not a dropoff that matters much…certainly not $10 million worth, or whatever it is.

Snead hasn’t done a lot this offseason, but I like what he has done. Hope it’s a 3rd for Quinn. That would be pretty great.

wv wrote:

It’s becoming evident that the DCCC—and the billionaire donors and revolving door consultants that make up the Democratic Party establishment—believe Democrats can only take back Congress by running on a watered down message…

Enh. I don’t know if that’s what they believe. On the contrary, their polling must show that those issues are popular with the voters.

They are unpopular with the people who finance them.

zn wrote:

Billy_T wrote:

No politician in American history has gotten away with as much illegality, immorality, mendacity or personalized viciousness toward others as Trump has.

I have to call my own number here. Early in election discussions, some people flirted with the idea that Trump wouldn’t be that much worse than any standard issue dem. My view was, he was going to be far far worse. By a huge margin. I think that’s exactly how it played out.

Yeah, but…that wasn’t the complete argument.

Speaking for myself (and ultimately I WOULD have voted for Clinton if California had been in single digits), I weighed not only who would be WORSE (clearly Trump), but what the likely long term voter outcome would be.

I.E. Trump was always going to be worse. No question. But he was always going to be THIS. What we are seeing. He was always going to be THIS bad. So bad that it is obvious to the entire nation that he is terrible.

VS.

Hillary. Who would have been less bad, but bad. Very bad. In all kinds of less obvious ways.

AND…

Americans are stupid. They make corrections by turning the other way. So the reaction to Trump was always going to be to pull the damn thing to the Left.

But a reaction against Hillary was going to be to pull it to the Right. And into the arms of some shithole like Pence. Or Marco fucking Rubio.

The question was…was it better to suffer bigly under Trump and hope for a hard correction to the Left…or suffer in lesser ways under Clinton and just continue to suffer with no possibility of moving to the Left of her?

And that wasn’t clear to me…although…as I said…I would voted for her if California had the least tiny chance of going to Trump.

But now I dunno. This country looks to me to be Pretty Pissed Off with Republicans right now. It wouldn’ta been this pissed with them if Hillary had won.

InvaderRam wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Yeah, he is not Lawrence Phillips or Pacman Jones. Strikes me as more of a Terrell Owens, but with anger outbursts instead of big ego outbursts.

kinda reminds me of turley. he’ll be fine and then all of a sudden he’ll grab an opponent’s helmet and throw it across the field.

Much better comparison. Yeah. Sometimes people grow out of that, though, and that’s the hope. Looks like 28 other teams did not think there was any chance of that.

Well…he seemed genuine. I didn’t sense a bunch of agent-coached horseshit.

Oh, he’s played Madden.

Well, if he’s done that kind of research, he is definitely the man.