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ZooeyModeratorOh…hey. A former student of mine is running for congress out here. I found out through Facebook. Totally progressive platform. He’s taking on a long time Dem incumbent, however, so…but still! Pretty cool.
ZooeyModeratorMy favorite thing is “When Bernie loses, they will run riot through the streets, beating up people, setting buildings on fire, smashing windows, and raging like Mad Dogs. Just Like Last Election.”
ZooeyModeratorJust watched the video.
I don’t think it’s going to backfire on Warren much. A little, maybe. What it has done is riled up the women who blame Bernie for Hillary’s defeat, but they were already supporting Warren. It’s not going to peel away Sanders supporters to Warren’s camp. People who support Sanders – like you said – they know there’s no way Bernie would say that. And I don’t think it will cost Sanders votes in the primaries, but it could cost some votes in the general election should he somehow survive the DNC/media onslaught to win the nomination. Some Democrats are going to give Sanders “a taste of his own medicine,” and either not vote, or vote 3rd party.
ZooeyModeratorTaibbi has reported that there were no witnesses to the meeting between Sanders and Warren. Only Warren was there. Which means she is the source of the story. Warren has (allegedly) been consulting both Hillary and Obama – and Obama is reported to be opposed to Sanders, and said he will personally intervene if necessary to prevent him from getting the nomination. Hillary would also hate to see Sanders nominated. And the day before the final debate before Iowa…this story breaks. This is Warren’s responsibility. She has done this deliberately to make sure that questions will be asked about this during tonight’s debate…on CNN…the network that broke the story. She is going for Sanders’ jugular right now, and she has a plan to capture the debate tonight.
This is easily the worst thing Warren has done. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, but this is dangerous. She could damage the progressive cause by pissing off some people who might support Sanders as a second choice if she loses. This is brutal.
And I agree with you. No way Bernie would say a woman can’t win. The accusation is ridiculous on the face of it. I hope he has a successful tactic to quietly dismiss this, and move on. I think he will say that if Warren wins the nomination, he will support her tirelessly, just like he supported Hillary, and then talk about issues that matter.
I hope Warren drops out soon, or else there will be a brokered convention, and we’re screwed. Trump will get re-elected.
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vYou know me…never a disparaging word.
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ZooeyModeratorOcasio-Cortez’s Revolt Against DCCC ‘Exactly What We Need’ Say Progressive Democrats
Congresswoman from New York withholds dues from the party machine and launches a new PAC to help insurgent left-wing candidates.Just wanted to mention that I am a fan of this move. Not giving dues to the DCCC who is hostile to progressives is pretty bold, and she will no doubt catch flak for it. And she’s formed a PAC to work for other progressive candidates, putting her directly at odds with the Dem establishment.
The National Review says, though, that she takes half the cut into her own campaign funds which isn’t a good look, if true.
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January 13, 2020 at 9:29 pm in reply to: The AFC & NFC Conference Championships: set-up, predictions #110404
ZooeyModeratorI don’t believe that God will allow the 49ers to play in the Super Bowl again.
I believe that He has learned from His mistakes.
ZooeyModeratorOnce the trial begins, Sanders and Warren are off the campaign trail, leaving Biden and Buttigieg out there without interference.
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Well, maybe thats why Pelosi is doin it.
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vWell…I have had my eye on this since she first announced she was holding them.
But she is putting the timing of it into McConnell’s hands. He will certainly want to time the vote before the State of the Union address Feb. 4. And he was talking about knocking the articles out of the park as quickly as possible…just a day or two of heated rhetoric for media sound bites, and then be done with the thing.
So it may be the trial doesn’t detain the Senate very long. In the mean time, Ocasio-Cortez is apparently going to campaign on Sanders’ behalf.
Elizabeth Warren has got to drop out ASAP. She could fuck this whole thing up, and force a brokered convention in which the DCCC would fuck the whole thing up, and give us 4 more years of Trump, and 4 more years of cementing the wall around minority rule.
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ZooeyModeratorAnybody have any idea why Pelosi is sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate this week?
I don’t see anything saying the McConnell was compromising his commitment to run a farce trial.
One thing I’ve been watching on this…Senators are REQUIRED to be in the Senate for the trial.
Once the trial begins, Sanders and Warren are off the campaign trail, leaving Biden and Buttigieg out there without interference.
ZooeyModeratorESPN Stats & Info@ESPNStatsInfo
The Titans won Saturday despite being outgained 530-300 (-230).
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Wow. I only watched the hi-lites so I just figured the Titans had more yards.
Who the hell are the Titans anyway? How did they do that? The Ravens were a Terminator this year.
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vI watched a lot of it. Seemed to me that the Ravens had some dropped balls, and Jackson got increasingly skittish and uncontrolled.
ZooeyModeratorHoly shit.
January 10, 2020 at 12:35 am in reply to: Is McVay going to adequately replace both Wade & Bones? #110243
ZooeyModeratorI share the fear this is hubris.
Phillips and Fassel are quality coaches with distinguished track records.
Why not just get on the same page with them?
ZooeyModeratorWhy. I don’t understand why. I don’t understand on Phillips, either.
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ZooeyModeratorLooks like sandworm tunnels.
January 1, 2020 at 1:12 pm in reply to: now that it’s over — the assessments (Snead, Klein, etc.) #109990
ZooeyModeratorOne of my takeaways from the season: Todd is done as a gamebreaker. He’s a good running back, but he has lost his burst. He is not elite anymore. He is a good, but complementary player, getting paid now like he is The Guy Who Drives the Offense. He’s not that guy any longer, and I don’t know what they do about that.
Biggest Disappointment: My first thought would be OL here, but injuries were really the main story here, and there are promising signs on the young’uns. Then there is the regression of Goff. But that’s part OL, part adjustments made by defenses around the league that he needs to grow to recognize. So…I’m calling Henderson the biggest disappointment of the season. He just never happened. And RB is a position where rookies can often splash. No splash. Barely a ripple.
Biggest Appointment (what’s the opposite of disappointment?): Higbee. Cool. Go Higbee. Honorable Mention here is Cooper Kupp who came back unbelievably early from that knee injury.
ZooeyModeratorI am surprised by his apparent defense of Trump.
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ZooeyModeratorI don’t know line play at all. I thought Hav had a couple of good seasons, but he sure didn’t look good this year. It is really a bummer that Noteboom and Allen went out for the year and lost all that development/continuity time, and now have rehab on top of that. The Rams are not going to win the division without an improved OL, that’s for sure.
ZooeyModeratorI was surprised the Rams played their starters throughout. I kind of expected a preseason game. That wouldn’t have been a good “farewell” to the coliseum I guess, but then…not sure anybody in LA cares.
The NFC West is going to be a load next year, by the look of it.
It’ll be interesting to see how well the Rams draw in their new palace. I’m not sure it will make much difference. It’s more likely to draw curiosity-seekers than fans of the team. It’s going to take the Rams a while to rebuild their fan base, I would think.
ZooeyModeratorI’ve been asking myself if I want to see the Saints get extinguished again right on the banks of the Jordan River. And I think I do.
I dunno. I guess the Packers would be the least offensive victor for me. I can’t watch any of those other teams win a ring.
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ZooeyModeratorHis base is always in a frenzy. They would come out to vote either way.
I think it matters because he has to wear that scarlet letter on his chest the rest of his life, and that will affect some of the wishy washy independent types of people (who ARE those people, anyway?). So in terms of votes, I think it will cost him a little bit.
Here’s a good piece by Williams Rivers Pitt that I wish I had written.
Impeaching Trump Is Worth It, Even With the Senate Poised to Acquit
William Rivers Pitt, Truthout
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December 18, 2019A watershed moment in history is upon us. Later today – probably after the sun sets and all the House members have spoken their piece – Donald Trump will almost certainly join Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton in the presidential impeachment club. Richard Nixon is an honorary member, though he slithered out of town like a septic snake before his impeachment ticket was officially punched.
Johnson, a vile racist, was impeached for having obstructed Reconstruction at every turn. Clinton was impeached for being a damn fool who cheated on his wife and then lied about it on television when he knew better than any living man that the Republican-controlled House was out to get him. Both survived their Senate trials. Nixon would have been impeached for breaking the law had he tried to gut it out, but his chances in the Senate were grim, which is why he put on his boogie shoes and fled back to San Clemente.
Donald Trump has also wantonly broken this country’s laws, and today, he faces impeachment for it. That is to say, he will almost certainly be impeached for some of it, anyway. The crimes of bribery, conspiracy, coercion, obstruction of justice and the kidnapping of children at the southern U.S. border do not appear on the articles drafted by the House Judiciary Committee and approved by Speaker Nancy Pelosi. They should be there, but they are not. Instead, Trump stands accused only of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, and unless the Potomac thwarts its banks and subsumes the District of Columbia, Pelosi has the votes to get it done.
According to Trump and his vulgar minions on television and in Congress, progressives like me are very happy about all this. Speaking personally, nothing could be further from the truth. The idea of finding joy, not just in this moment but the path taken to arrive here, is nearly as sickening as Trump’s presidency itself has been.
Is Trump a genuine menace to constitutional order and the rule of law? Demonstrably. Does he deserve to be removed from office? Unquestionably. Yet there is no pleasure to be found in the fact of his impeachment because of the flagrantly ruinous route we have journeyed to arrive here, and because the poisonous power of hate in politics all but guarantees his acquittal in the Senate.
Here is the truth of Trump: He has delivered everything that Republicans have historically expected from their presidents, deftly serving to distract the public with his deliberately inflicted mayhem while congressional Republicans rewrite the tax code and defenestrate environmental and financial regulations at the behest of their wealthy friends in the private sector. That is the point of Trump, the whole point, and the only point. Meanwhile, Republicans have used Trump’s frenzied debasement of the office to stack the courts with far-right anti-choice judges who will squat on the bench for a generation.
The white power structure in the United States, flush with money and the will to use it, was bound to produce a president like Donald Trump sooner or later. If you look at Trump through Republican eyes, you begin to see why they continue to stand with him: Under his churlish gaze, they have gotten more than they could have ever dreamed of.
Had impeachment not been undertaken, even in the face of possible political setbacks, the only thing left would be to turn out the lights on this thought experiment of a nation.
After two terms of a Black president, the “whitelash” (as Van Jones put it) came in a single ugly election that saw half the country shun the ballot box. The frankly racist members of Trump’s base serve as foot soldiers in a culture war aimed at maintaining white power while looting the Treasury and despoiling the planet, again.Conservative “Never-Trumpers” like former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum can shed ersatz tears over what Trump has done, but they are deeply complicit in this ongoing calamity. Men like Frum do not detest Trump because of the policies enacted under his administration, but because he is bad for the brand.
The United States is growing more racially and culturally diverse by the day, and the GOP has spent the last 55 years demagoguing on race and abortion to get their base to the polls. Thanks to Trump (and a Democratic Party power structure which has been in a fetal crouch since Ronald Reagan), that reactionary base is now in the political driver’s seat. This is precisely as surprising as Jack jumping out of the box on a coiled spring after you prime the handle.
Sooner or later, demographics will be the windshield to the GOP’s bug, and they know this, so they have chosen to ride the tiger of Trump-style racism and hate for as long as they can, plundering as they go while planting the seeds of far-right fascism within the federal courts. Republicans primed the handle for all those long years, Jack jumped out of the box, and the GOP intends to make hay while the sun still shines.
All signs forecast that Trump will be impeached today, but the Senate will almost certainly acquit him before the spring flowers nose their way through the peat, because this is what white power and money have wrought. A president as demonstrably crooked as Trump has no business continuing in office, and Article II of the Constitution was set out as a remedy for such a happenstance, but the Constitution is proving to be a gossamer safety web in the face of well-funded, well-trained, well-organized hate.
Even if some miracle of politics coalesces in the Senate and Trump is actually removed from office, the poison is already loose within the national bloodstream. It was David Frum himself who just this month wondered, “What if Trump-style politics were executed a little more deftly, by someone with a stronger work ethic?” Answer your own question, Mr. Frum, and find a mirror when you do it.
Some will say a seemingly inevitable Senate acquittal makes this whole endeavor a waste of time, even a dangerous one, as the process has invigorated an already hyped GOP base in an election year. Stuff and nonsense: The left is on fire, too, as protests in favor of impeachment are taking place today in all 50 states. More than that, the Constitution demands this impeachment, win or lose.
It is bad enough that this despicable, cruel and law-breaking president will almost certainly retain his office when all is said and done. Had impeachment not been undertaken, even in the face of possible political setbacks, the only thing left would be to turn out the lights on this thought experiment of a nation. It is dark enough already as it is.
This is an important day, a momentous day, a historic day, but not a happy day, even for those of us who have been calling for impeachment since Trump first began flouting the laws he swore to uphold. This is what we have become as a nation, and it will be a long, perilous road to recovery, if in fact we even recover at all.
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