Billy_T wrote:

The only thing I can think of is there may have been pressure from the Biden admin to move on, to get it over with, so they could pursue their nominees and agenda. That’s about it.

All of that said, 57-43 is a strong indictment against Trump, though the right will spin that as a victory, as “vindication.”

I also can’t help thinking anyone who voted to protect Trump is the lowest of low. It basically says that protecting Trump is more important than their own lives, the lives of their families, their colleagues, staff, and their families. Trump literally sent the mob to kill them all. And, once they were in middle of the melee, McCarthy and others begged him to stop it, and he wouldn’t. He refused to protect the House and Senate from a potential massacre.

The vote was so easy. Should have been 100 to 0.

I think they voted to protect themselves, not Trump. I think there is little love of Trump anywhere in Washington. McConnell spoke for a lot of people in the GOP yesterday. In any event, I think their votes will come back to bite a few of them (in purple states) because the vote to acquit Trump is going to look worse and worse as time goes on.

If anybody comes across a plausible explanation for why the Democrats stopped short of calling witnesses, I’d like to see it.

That’s one of several movies I’ve been interested in seeing. The films I want to see never come to Netflix.

Would that invasion have occurred without Trump’s comments?

Not a fucking chance.

wv wrote:

I assume the Dems know they cant get a conviction. I mean, they cant.
It wont even be close. So its not about a conviction and never was.

So what are they doing?

Well its ‘politics.’ They want to hurt
the Republicans as much as they can, discredit as many Reps
as they can. Its theater, and hard-ball-partisan-politics.

If they really wanted to hurt them, they would have brought in witnesses. Witnesses would not only say, “Yeah, we have evidence that there were contacts between the WH and the Proud Boys,” they would also end up inevitably talking about what they know about the Capitol police’s complicity, and the tours of the building given by the fascist boys Jordan, Gosar, Gaetz and others the day before. Cruz and Hawley would be dragged into it. The Democrats had the ability in their hands to smack a deadly blow to the GOP. They didn’t. I speculated earlier as to Why, but they could have dragged the entire thing out in the open, and blown the top off the GOP. Instead, they declined to call witnesses, and made it very clear in their arguments that the congress was NOT on trial, only Trump, trying to give them an Out. It IS theatre, and they DO want to deal a blow, but unlike…the police, say…they are only interested in restraining the GOP, not executing it.

wv wrote:

I listened to some of a Trump-Lawyer’s argument while
i was in my car today. It was an excellent argument i thought.
He played an audio of a gazillion Dems saying inflammatory,
pro-violence rhetoric, and then he argued it all should be
protected by the 1st Amendment, and that it was unfortunate
that the rhetoric on both sides has reached this point.

I agree with Billy’s response to this, and will add that the difference is that Trump did this from the beginning. He has sanctioned violence at rallies and in other speeches, minimized the violence of right wing extremists (Charlottesville, etc), refused to condemn the Michigan action, told his violent thugs to “stand back and stand by,” and preposterously incited his base by repeatedly and falsely claiming that the election was stolen. He called for the rally at the Capitol, told them to march on the Capitol, tweeted in advance it was going to be Big and Wild. He has channeled all this anger, and directed it against the government, and it is completely disingenuous to pretend that the Democrats calls to “fight for justice” are equitable.

The first amendment does not protect the right to incite criminal behavior.

zn wrote:

List of #49ers coaches who departed this offseason:

Robert Saleh (HC Jets)
Mike LaFleur (OC Jets)
John Benton (OL Jets)
Aaron Whitecotton (DL Jets)
Tony Oden (CBs Jets)
Mike Rutenberg (LBs Jets)
Shane Day (QB/Pass game Chargers)
Michael Clay (ST Eagles)
Katie Sowers
Stan Kwan

That’s probably because Sean McVay is SUCH a jerk that he even has an impact on divisional coaching staffs.

InvaderRam wrote:

Zooey wrote:

I would have thought he would get there before Calvin Johnson.

in defense of johnson, i’d say he deserves it more than holt. don’t get me wrong. i love holt. they both should have gotten in this year.

but if you were to ask me if i could pick between the two of them to start on my own football team, i’d pick megatron every single time.

for the nickname alone. megatron is a hall of fame worthy nickname. big game not so much. hahahaha! the most physically gifted wide receiver ever. it’s not even close. and i realize a lot of getting into the hall of fame is based on career achievements as well. otherwise alex barron would be a hall of fame offensive tackle. but johnson just had the misfortune of being drafted by the lions.

Yeah, you’re probably right. I pulled up their statistics right before I said that, and they are pretty similar, and because Holt is older, helped when a SB, and had the best statistics of any WR ever over the first – whatever – decade, I think – of his career, I said that. But if one had to choose between Holt and Johnson for my team, I think I would also take Johnson. The numbers don’t tell the whole story, and I kind of ignored that.

Maybe you guys will start listening to me now. I’ve said from the beginning that Aaron Donald is good. What’s it going to take to convince the rest of you?

Good to hear. I hope you don’t have any long term effects.

I got my first vaccination this week.

wv wrote:

I’m excited to see this QB.

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The more I read, the more I like.

I’m looking forward to it, too. When does camp start, anyway? I miss football. It would be great if there was some football to look forward to. I’d be interested in watching almost anybody play right now.

Goff made more downfield throws in that Saints game highlight reel than he made all season, though. And that’s what I still want an explanation for.

Anybody have one of those “spray charts,” or whatever they are, that show a field with all the dots for passes thrown? I’d like to see one from this year compared to one from previous years.

joemad wrote:

i just find it hard to believe that folks think that Goff is not capable of winning a Super Bowl in LA. He was 2 dropped passes by Brandon Cooks to win it 2018.

He and his 9 fingers pulled within 7 when his number 1 defense turned to Swiss Cheese in Wisconsin. Goff and the Rams beat the shit out of the current NFC Champion (TB) in their backyard. He’s more than capable to win…..

He and his 9 fingers relieved Alfred E Newman (wolford) in Seattle to keep the Rams alive this season. Does any remember Wolford’s scramble prior to the one he got hurt where he slid well before the 1st down marker on 3rd down?… If Goff did that, folks would still be hammering him. Who made the decision to start Wolford over GOff that game?

the question is, …is McVay and his gambler Les Snead GM capable? He’s a fucking choker, curled up in the Super Bowl before the coin was even tossed sucking up to Billichick like a school girl…… He didn’t prepare his team for SF last year and got eliminated.

You can’t pin the last 2 seasons on Goff, but you can pin it on his contract that impacts the roster and draft… who fault is that?

BTW, is anyone concerned of the current coaching exodus???? Why is that happening?

While there are some people around who have voiced hardline dissatisfaction with Goff, I think most of us on this tiny little board sample believe that Goff IS good enough to win a Super Bowl. I do, certainly. I’d say the consensus of people whose opinions I respect is that Stafford is an upgrade over Goff. So that’s just playing percentages. Las Vegas seemed to agree that the trade improved the Rams, too, because the odds on the Rams got shorter after the trade.

As for McVay, I think you make valid criticisms, and express valid skepticism. I think questions about him are starting to circulate, and I think the Rams insiders are going to explore what people think about those questions. McVay is now entering a more scrutinized phase of his tenure, imo. I am certainly keeping an ear out for criticism of him now. I don’t think he gets a free pass going forward.

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The experience must be a gut punch to Goff.

He emerges on the scene as the #1 pick in the NFL draft to the newly-minted Los Angeles Rams. Major, major market, complete with a freshly hit Reset button. Nowhere to go but Up, and the shy is the limit.

After 0-7 start, a new start with a wonder boy head coach, and next thing you know, he is starting the Super Bowl.

Moments later, this firefighter’s son signs a contract for $130 million, and is about to helm the team that occupies an astoundingly glamourous stadium in a city and league known for glamour.

Suddenly, fissures appear all around him, and picks up the phone to learn he has been traded. To Detroit.

Detroit, Michigan. Home of the Detroit Lions. In Detroit. It’s like Siberia, but worse. Some Siberian destinations have a bed of flowers. Lovable Losers, like the Cubs were for so long. Cleveland at least had the respectful sympathy of a nation of fans who recognized and honored their losing ways. Detroit got nada. No history, no lovable fan base, nothing. And it’s Detroit.

Goff had been chosen. He was Homecoming King with the most beautiful girl on campus, and they had some fun together, and some good sex, and then…she dumped him for another guy with almost no warning.

So…I feel bad for Goff. He’s gonna be lucky to win 5 or 6 games next year. Forget the playoffs. Forget prime time football games.

He’s a decent guy as far as anyone can tell, and a decent QB, and this has to be tough.

I don’t wish Goff ill, but I don’t wish him great success, either. It would be tough to watch him win it all if the Rams fail to win with Stafford.