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znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Sounds like Brandon Allen and Luis Perez will split the QB duties for the #LARams on Thursday.==
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
If Dominique Easley successfully transitions to OLB, the Rams starting defense will feature seven first-round picks. And five of the front-seven would be first rounders. 😳It’s closed to the media, but Rams practice today is a full-pads modified scrimmage. Officials also on the field.
znModeratorhe knew that an anti-aircraft missle had locked onto him which means he should have broken off the attack and taken evasive action, but he chose to go through with it anyway
Well to bring it back to the Rams, Jack Youngblood used to do that.
znModeratorThe only way anyone could know that McCain continued on to his target after being called back would be if there was someone else on the plane who witnessed it, survived the crash, survived being a POW, and then told the story after the war.
And the A4 Skyhawk was a single seater.
znModeratorYeah, but you probably don’t believe that 9/11 was an inside job, either.
No I don’t.
However, I think people have made a good case for Pearl Harbor being an inside job.
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znModeratorBoth sides should be happy with anything between $23 and $24 million. imo
Yeah I agree with that.
Been saying it too though I got there from different calculations. But 24 M is good and less than 22 M is bad.
znModeratorWhat I found of interest before the 1,000s threw me off was the assertion that he was ordered back, but carried on and bombed the place anyway.
Even if that were true, and it sounds completely bogus, how would anyone know about it?
I can see a raid being called off here and there but jeesh, a pilot refusing to listen?
That;s some made-up bs.
znModeratorJohn McCain bombed a Vietnamese light bulb factory killing 1000s of innocent civilians before he was captured.
One A4 light bomber delivering its payload is not going to kill 1000s, if in fact there even is a lightbulb factory anywhere that actually employs 1000s.
I mean I know who McCain is, and I cast a dark eye on his politics too.
But jeesh, don’t spew made up hyperbolic nonsense, leave that to the righties. The truth is good enough on its own.
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I thought “1000s” was hyperbole too. I’m not endorsing this I’m just wondering if there is anything to the light bulb factory story. That’s not exactly a military target.
Most air wars do not go after exclusively military targets. Heck it was British and American air war policy in WW 2 to directly target the civilian populations of Germany and Japan. More people were killed in the fire bombing of Tokyo than were killed in Hiroshima. For that matter if MacCain did hit a power plant, that’s a civilian target too, and it would have a greater impact on more civilians if they took out power. So I am not moved by any of that. It’s not like the pilot personally picks the targets.
It was Vietnam. Bad all the way around. One target give or take doesn’t mean much.
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znModeratorJohn McCain bombed a Vietnamese light bulb factory killing 1000s of innocent civilians before he was captured.
One A4 light bomber delivering its payload is not going to kill 1000s, if in fact there even is a lightbulb factory anywhere that actually employs 1000s.
I mean I know who McCain is, and I cast a dark eye on his politics too.
But jeesh, don’t spew made up hyperbolic nonsense, leave that to the righties. The truth is good enough on its own.
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znModeratorI meant % of the Cap, not actual dollars. Like zn says, it has to be adjusted for today’s cap, not the cap back in 2015.
So on your approach, what’s an “annual avg.” amount for AD in 2018 if it’s based on Suh?
znModeratorDonald should get more than what Suh got. Donald deserves that.
More importantly, Suh’s deal was in 2015, and contracts go up annually with the cap. If you transported a 2015 Suh clone through time to 2018, HE would get more than Suh did in 2015.
znModeratorSome more player rankings.
From ESPN’s Top 100 player rankings for the 2018 season. http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/24375190/2018-nflrank-predicting-ranking-best-100-players-season
3. Aaron Donald
13. Todd Gurley
48. Marcus Peters
51. Ndamukong Suh
58. Andrew Whitworth
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znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams coach Sean McVay said he spoke with Aaron Donald last week to check in on him. Said it was a good dialogue and “hopefully we’ll see him sooner than later”—
Obo Okoronkwo expected to start season on PUP https://t.co/6M29WLgSEJ
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) August 27, 2018
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Who were the top quarterbacks in the red-zone in 2017?https://t.co/6SkCqDz7ln pic.twitter.com/aVwraWNRzz
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) August 28, 2018
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Austin Blythe remains on track to start at right guard for the Rams’ first two games, with Jamon Brown suspended. McVay said Blythe won’t play Thursday, and will sit with the starters.
znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
McVay said #LARams TE Gerald Everett is working his way back and is on track to play Week 1. I talked to Everett post practice and will have that write up this evening.HC Sean McVay says it’s unlikely OLB Obo Okoronkwo (foot) will come off PUP prior to the start of the regular season, which would mean he’ll miss the first six games of 2018. McVay noted Okoronkwo has been working hard to come back, but the issue is out of his control.
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Joe Banner@JoeBanner13
OBJ almost done, Donald almost done, Mack and Raiders not even talking. This is one of the strangest situations I have seen in over 20 years of being involved in NFL contracts. Would love to know what Raiders strategy is?==
Lester A. Wiltfong Jr@wiltfongjr
I really wish sports fans would learn the spectrum of adjectives that lie between the words great and sucks-
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znModeratorthis would be huge.
Yup
znModeratorStiglitz is always good.
znModeratorWhen will Aaron Donald report to the #Rams?@RamsNFL COO & VP Kevin Demoff told us why he is optimistic about the Aaron Donald contract negotiations when we made our Training Camp stop…
🔽AUDIO🔽 pic.twitter.com/uTgR0eCfyq
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) August 27, 2018
August 27, 2018 at 3:22 am in reply to: houston game, ps #3: articles, highlights, tweets, etc #89906
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znModeratorRAMS’ JOHN KELLY LOOKS LIKE LATEST UNDERVALUED RB
link: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/08/26/rams-john-kelly-looks-like-latest-undervalued-rb/
The NFL has some odd tendencies in drafting running backs. Of course we’ve all heard the phrase “RBs are a dime a dozen”. And for a vast majority of them, yes. The talent pool at RB is stocked as full as any position in the league.
But the NFL also doesn’t play by these rules anymore, having drafted 8 running backs in the first round since 2015. The lucky eight?
2015 Todd Gurley, Rams
2015 Melvin Gordon, Chargers
2016 Ezekiel Elliott, Cowboys
2017 Leonard Fournette, Jaguars
2017 Christian McCaffrey, Panthers
2018 Saquon Barkley, Giants
2018 Rashad Penny, Seahawks
2018 Sony Michel, Patriots
The common denominator between these eight backs is their athletic ability in relation to their size. All who tested (Gurley did not) logged above average athleticism when scoring their tests against their size. And having accomplished peak production, it appears the NFL has their model of exceptions.“RBs are a dime a dozen, except we’re not going to treat them like they are.”
Enter John Kelly, the 176th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. Kelly, who is a former Tennessee Volunteer, had a frustrating career behind an underwhelming offensive line that simply found creating rushing lanes too tough of a task do do with any consistency.
He’s not having those same issues thus far in the preseason, having logged 77, 56 and 64 rushing yards respectively in three games for the Los Angeles Rams. But Kelly had much better film, even with the line issues at Tennessee, than he got credit for.
His 2018 NFL Draft report can be found below:

Kelly showed that “tremendous balance and ability to sustain forward momentum/footing after contact” yesterday with this dazzling 15-yard touchdown romp.
JOHN. KELLY. 😳@JKShuttlesworth #HOUvsLAR pic.twitter.com/MIGUw0dQOt
— NFL (@NFL) August 25, 2018
So with evident gifts and abilities as a running back and an above average athleticism score when adjusting for his size, what caused a slide? It’s hard to say for sure. Kelly’s perception may have been skewed by a Pro Day only 40 time (he ran 4.65 and then in the 4.5s). Or perhaps whispers off the field caught up with Kelly.
Either way, he’s clearly outperformed Malcolm Brown this summer and is in all likelihood going to be the #2 back when the season opens.
Undervalued backs are as much of a certainty as death and taxes.
Arian Foster, C.J. Anderson, Priest Holmes, Fred Jackson all went completely undrafted. So, too, did Corey Clement, who can be John Kelly’s role model in 2018. Clement came in last year and eventually found himself in a key role for the Super Bowl Champion Eagles, having 6 touchdowns and being a key contributor in several big situations throughout the season.
Kelly didn’t have to go through the entire draft without hearing his name called, but he should absolutely have a chip on his shoulder as the 15th RB drafted. And Kelly, like Clement, will have every chance as RB2 to make some key plays for the Rams, who have a Super Bowl of their own in mind this season.
The final remaining hurdle for Kelly is to sustain his positive reps once the action transitions from the preseason to the regular season schedule. Barring a catastrophic injury to Todd Gurley, Kelly’s workload will be light, so he will need to make his chances count.
But as the second string back, Kelly will absolutely see the ball every Sunday. And he’ll look to follow the mold most recently set by Corey Clement to make a few teams wish they’d seen him in a different light last April.
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znModeratorI say Donald signs a 4 year deal for 96 M (24 M a year) with 108 M guaranteed.
It will be the first contract in NFL history that guarantees more money than it actually pays.
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znModeratorrussia sows dicord…
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They’ve also spurred healthy “debate.” Not just “discord.”
On the other hand, What has the Mainstream AMERICAN corporate media sowed?
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vThis is in reference to disguised accounts deliberately set up to promote divisive reactions. That was the actual intent of those things. An anti-democratic imperial autocrat wouldn’t know healthy debate if it sat on his chest and sang opera.
The thing my post mentions is not the kind of thing you’re into where Putin funds real american dissidents critical of american policies (while he also stifles dissent in Russia).
znModeratorJohn McCain voted against imposing sanctions against apartheid South Africa on six different occasions
But ONLY 6 times.
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znModeratorIf you like the #LARams and great analysis, this video is for you. @Zac_Robinson5 does a great job breaking down the use of play action in the Rams offense https://t.co/qczE2AsTx6
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) August 26, 2018
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znModeratorMyles Simmons@MylesASimmons
On conference call, McVay confirms no starters will play vs. New Orleans on Thursday Night. Also says #LARams will have a kind of scrimmage in practice for starters.==
Joe Curley@vcsjoecurley
McVay says the Rams are “sticking with the plan” on LB Mark Barron. He’ll participate in a scrimmage Tuesday, but won’t plan in a preseason game. “Goal for him is to be good to go Sept. 10”Only two injury issues from Houston game. McVay says OLB Ryan Davis (ankle) suffered a mid-level sprain and may be out a “a week or two.” Ethan Westbrooks (shoulder) “checked out good.”
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Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
McVay said Rams would prefer to have Aaron Donald back by the end of this week in order to play him in week 1, but he had no update beyond that.First, McVay said ideally, Aaron Donald would get 1 1/2 or 2 weeks of preparation before game action. Then he said, “by the end of this week.” I’m strictly giving my opinion here, but I think if Aaron got in the building on Sept. 3, there’s no question he would play.
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Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
The Rams have reason for concern with their backup QB situation after Sean Mannion got off to another slow start on Saturday against the Texans. Mannion threw four incomplete passes and an interception before he mustered a turnaround. He finished 11-of-17 for 68 yards and a touchdown, with an interception, in the first half. McVay said after the game that Mannion responded well to adversity, but that they needed to find a way to “start sharp right from the beginning.” Mannion played poorly in a preseason opener against the Ravens, but showed improvement against the Raiders. He’ll likely play the first half against the Saints to close out the preseason.Rams backup RB John Kelly continued his impressive preseason showing on Saturday against the Texans. The sixth-round pick from Tennessee rushed for 64 yards and two touchdowns in 15 carries. “Good runner, good, confident player,” Sean McVay said. “Just good play energy where he kind of brings guys around him where guys get excited playing with him.” Kelly took a handoff from Mannion and rushed 15 yards up the middle for a touchdown in the third quarter. “I just want to make sure that whenever I’ve got to go out there and execute a play, I’m going to do what I’m supposed to do,” Kelly said.
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This photo, from a great @RamsNFL photog, is the stuff of nightmares… pic.twitter.com/sJf6vjhYyH
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) August 26, 2018
znModeratorDowntown Rams@DowntownRams
If the number are right with Aaron Donald. Clearly he chose more guaranteed money and sacrificed some APY money. #Rams are winning this deal if it’s $22M. Surprised the APY came down and the guaranteed money went up. This is what was taking the deal so long.Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Regarding latest report on #Rams/Aaron Donald: For obvious reasons the next seven to 10 days were always underlined as the “something’s gotta give” window. Sense I’m getting is it’s still too soon to predict where it will all end up, numbers wise.Joel Corry@corryjoel
One has been engaging in negotiations seemingly forever while the other isn’t/hasn’t been. From my dealings with players as an agent, that’s a sure fire way to make someone feel disrespected. I’m positive other Oakland players have noticed how their best player is being treated.I was involved in the last veteran player holdout Jon Gruden had with the Bucs. At some point during the holdout, the player decided he wanted out of Tampa at all cost so we started trying to force a trade. Because of this experience, I don’t rule out a Khalil Mack trade.
You’re right it’s a business but some teams get offended when a player uses the tools at his disposal. A team exec once told me that since most holdouts fail nothing should be done to antagonize that player to mininizme him being a disrputive influence when he returns.
znModeratorI think the Deal will closely match Suh’s contract.
I hope you don’t mean in terms of amount.

In terms of structure, could be.
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znModeratorRams, Aaron Donald remain on verge of record-setting deal
Mike Florio
Rams, Aaron Donald remain on verge of record-setting deal
It was close a couple of weeks ago, and it’s still close. But, obviously, it’s not done until it’s done.
The Rams and defensive tackle Aaron Donald, the reigning NFL defensive player of the year, remain on the verge of a deal that will make him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history, per a source with knowledge of the situation. But the deal still isn’t done, presumably because one or both sides is hoping to squeeze out one or more last-minute concessions.
That’s why it’s important to identify a real deadline for getting the deal done. Appearing recently on the #PFTPM podcast, Rams coach Sean McVay said there isn’t one. But if there really isn’t one, it becomes much more difficult to figure out when to land the plane.
Whenever the plane lands, the expectation is that the contract will be in the neighborhood of $22 million per year, with as much as $80 million guaranteed (total guarantee, not fully guaranteed) at signing.
“We’re working to come to a solution that gets Aaron Donald here as soon as possible and keeps Aaron Donald here for a long time,” Rams G.M. Les Snead tells PFT, while declining to discuss specifics.
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