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znModeratorWe call them “also racists”. https://t.co/RlccenIFld
— Soledad O'Brien (@soledadobrien) August 30, 2018
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znModeratorThis could mean that they are giving Donald more money up front and/or they might want to sign another player.
This is the long version of my response. It’s not so much written to you ag as it is to anyone including those who don’t follow contract stuff. That means I say a lot of things I know you know. So I am writing also to posters who don’t know these details.
So agreed that this could be about AD, and then again might not be.
There’s 2 ways to do an extension like this.
First is what they did with Cooks, and what GB did with Rodgers. You just add on a new contract, and the old contract then just plays out. So with Cooks, 2018 is his old contract, and the new one starts in 2019. That’s the 5 years, 81 M.
Another way to do it is to rewrite the old contract and add it to the new one. So if they did that, 2018 would be part of a new deal for AD, which is not how they did it with Cooks. If they do it that way with AD, then, restructuring AW & RW could be part of re-doing AD’s 2018 contract (along with adding more years).
And then as I said it’s also possible that AW and RW have nothing to do with AD, but maybe that has to do with something else we don’t know about yet.
It;s all up in the air but we will know in a few days.
znModeratorYour poop is mostly bacteria, BTW. I know that cuz I look at it under a microscope almost every day.
What reason would you have for looking at Zooey’s….
oh nevermind.
There is just not going to be an answer to that I will want to hear…
znModeratorSource: the Rams have created $7M in 2018 cap space by restructuring the deals of OT Andrew Whitworth & WR Robert Woods. Another suggestion that an Aaron Donald deal may be very close.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) August 30, 2018
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Restructures of Robert Woods & Andrew Whitworth bring the #Rams north of $10M in 2018 cap space according to our data, clearing room for a certain blockbuster contract soon to come. https://t.co/68l7GvIvDS
— Spotrac (@spotrac) August 30, 2018
znModeratorYou only get him for one year unless you want to pay him like Donald.
Nobody is going to trade for him without a long term deal agreed to before the trade. So that’s built into my fantasy from the start. If you put lemon juice on your screen, you can see all the details in my post.
Or I can bake the screen in the oven. What temperature?
znModeratorI wonder if KhaDarel could replace Pharaoh Cooper. Coop had one of the worst drop ratios in the NFL last year, if I’m correct.
He couldn;t have had one of the worst drop rates last year. The Rams ranked high (in the good way) in passes dropped, with only 13, 2nd best in the league. 5 of those were by Kupp and Everett had 4. Cooper didn’t make the list I looked at meaning whatever his number was, it was less than 4 and probably far less that 4 because he only had 19 targets.
He didn’t have a very high catch rate though but again, that’s on only 19 targets.
PC’s big contribution is as a returner.
August 30, 2018 at 3:24 am in reply to: Sando: NFL execs pick what all 32 teams should be worried about in 2018 #90073
znModeratorI was trying to see what they have for Philly and New England. They played in last years Super Bowl. With the Eagles, I live outside of Philly, but it won’t let me in that far, to see, and I can clap back at those Eagle fans.
Philadelphia Eagles
The worry: Staying on top will be harder than getting there, especially with these changes.
Exec unfiltered: “I’m worried about a Super Bowl hangover. The defense got older, the quarterback has to prove he can be what he was, the dynamics in the locker room changed and then you always have guys who want to get paid after winning it all, and I’m talking about everybody in your building. They ran off some longtime Eagle guys like Brent [Celek], [Vinny] Curry and [Mychal] Kendricks, and added some guys from other teams with storied pasts.”
znModeratorrams should do it. the rams don’t need no stinkin’ first rounders. they haven’t had one for the past 2 years.
snead scoffs at first rounders.
I’d give one first rounder, and a second.
That’s the #32nd and #64th.
You only get him for one year unless you want to pay him like Donald.
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Sean McVay is usually so cool, calm and collected. But his giddiness over the Aaron Donald contract situation can’t be contained.Update: Demoff did step out of the room for a few minutes following his speech for a phone call.
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Joel Corry@corryjoel
Over the last 12 months, the top of the QB market has gone from $27M per year (Matthew Stafford) to $33.5M (Aaron Rodgers). That’s a 24.1% increase. If Khalil Mack or Aaron Donald could do the same for non-QBs, they would get deals averaging approximately $23.675M per year.==
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Per @NFLResearch, former @USC_Athletics @pac12 star Sam Darnold will be the youngest QB to start a season opener since the merger (21 years, 97 days). #Pac12FB #CradleOfQuarterbacks
znModeratorRams GM Les Snead, on McVay’s massive Aaron Donald optimism: “Sean definitely is not speaking out of turn. He is well aware of updates, but nothing has agreed upon.” Snead said he would avoid going into details about negotiations or their recent progress.
The whole context…
Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
McVay on stage: “Where’s Demoff at? Did he get Aaron done? .. I think we’re very close to try to get this done.”Rams GM Les Snead, on McVay’s massive Aaron Donald optimism: “Sean definitely is not speaking out of turn. He is well aware of updates, but nothing has agreed upon.” Snead said he would avoid going into details about negotiations or their recent progress.
Let’s put this Rams/Aaron Donald stuff in its proper place. The coach says he thinks it could get done soon. The GM says the coach didn’t talk out of turn. Put the pieces together, and clearly it’s Donald Watch time.
znModeratorGOP candidate Ron DeSantis warns Florida not to ‘monkey up’ the state by electing his black opponent Andrew Gillum https://t.co/X1TFY2w7iF
— Raw Story (@RawStory) August 29, 2018
znModeratorSuh is ready… pic.twitter.com/F2DeBLHlpd
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) August 29, 2018
znModeratorNew Orleans Saints@Saints
Roster Move: The #Saints have acquired QB Teddy Bridgewater (@teddyb_h2o) from the New York Jets in a trade
znModeratorAlbaNY_Ram
That’s exactly why McVay was willing to play Goff against the Texans even though Whit was sitting. It wasn’t until Hav was hurt that Goff was scratched.
Last preseason Goff sat any time Whit sat. To me that says a lot about what the Rams think of Noteboom..
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
The over/under for Todd Gurley rushing yards is 1,250, the over/under for rushing and receiving TDs 15, per Bovada.
znModeratorAlso, Aaron Donald deal is nearly done.
— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) August 29, 2018
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Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Kevin Demoff on stage talking at Rams charity luncheon: “My phone is buzzing. It’s Aaron Donald’s agent. No joke. I wish I were making it up.”Someone in the audience yelled “Answer it!” I can confirm it wasn’t Les Snead because he is 5 feet from me. I’m not sure about McVay. Demoff said, “This is more important right now.”
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Charles Robinson@CharlesRobinson
As of late Monday night, the #Raiders and Khalil Mack were as dug in as ever. This standoff is going to stretch into the regular season. What Oakland does next is in Jon Gruden’s hands – as it has always been.
znModeratorWhen your coach torches you for a touchdown. (via @jwyattsports) pic.twitter.com/BC2qBW1Egc
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) August 29, 2018
znModeratorDowntown Rams@DowntownRams
With a contract extension uncertain on the Russel Wilson front, the #Seahawks have traded for #Packers QB Brett Hundley. DeShone Kizer wins the backup job in Green Bay. It’s Wilson, Hundley and potentially McGough in Seattle.
znModeratorProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
Sean Mannion remains the No. 2 to Jared Goff, and Rams coach Sean McVay says he’s OK with that==
Yeah, there’s absolutely no way this is true. https://t.co/3lE2Z4oPBA
— Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) August 28, 2018
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“Things are heating up. … It could happen. … We’re very optimistic. Seriously. We are.” Those words from Sean McVay after Tuesday's practice sure sound like a deal between the Rams and star DT Aaron Donald is imminent.
From @VinnyBonsignore https://t.co/k6nErNqWhw
— The Athletic (@TheAthleticLA) August 29, 2018
znModeratorRams’ Sean McVay: Things ‘heating up’ with holdout Aaron Donald
Lindsey Thiry
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24507899/sean-mcvay-los-angeles-rams-optimistic-aaron-donald
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay has been asked daily throughout training camp and the preseason about star defensive tackle Aaron Donald’s holdout.
His usual responses range between “no update” to “we’re hopeful something will get done.”
But on Tuesday, McVay’s tone struck a new chord. At times, he sounded as though he was joking, but he also expressed a newfound optimism that with the season opener looming the dispute could be nearing an end.
“Things are heating up,” McVay said when asked if he and Rams executives were considering a trip to visit Donald and his representatives in person. “You might see that sooner than later, you know? It could happen. It’s exciting. We’re very optimistic. Seriously, we are.”
When asked to clarify what he was optimistic about, a trip to visit Donald or a contract resolution, McVay said, “Could be both. Could be both. Let’s put it this way. Maybe it will happen.”
Donald is scheduled to earn $6.9 million in the final season of his five-year rookie contract, but is seeking an extension that would make him the highest-paid defensive player in NFL history and would rank his salary among quarterbacks.
Donald held out of training camp last year before reporting on the eve of the season opener, without a new deal in place. He was activated in Week 2 and was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year as the Rams won the NFC West for the first time since 2003 and made their first playoff appearance in 13 seasons.
After the season, Donald’s holdout resumed. He did not attend the offseason program, including mandatory minicamp, and did not report for training camp.
McVay said that he would like Donald to report by the end of the week so he could acclimate and prepare for the season opener on Sept. 10 against the Oakland Raiders.
If a deal is not in place when the Rams play their preseason finale against the Saints on Thursday, McVay said he and executives would take a detour either to or from New Orleans to visit with Donald.
“We’re going to do everything we can to be proactive. Whether it’s before the game or after being out in New Orleans, whatever we can do to make it work and do our part to demonstrate to Aaron how important it is for us to get him here, be a part of this team,” McVay said. “All jokes aside, there is a level of increased optimism. I’m not really kidding around with that. There are a lot of things that need to get done for it to be finalized, but we’re working in a positive direction. … Aaron: See you soon, buddy.”
znModeratorAndyBenoit@Andy_Benoit
#Titans have arguably NFL’s best CB trio with Jackson, Ryan and Butler.Chris Myers@The_ChrisMyers
I’d put the Rams with Talib,Peters, Shields,Robey-Coleman in that discussion—
Sam Shields‘ comeback attempt may clear a key barrier. The former Packers starter is on track to make the Rams‘ 53-man roster, Lindsay Thiry of ESPN.com writes. While he stands to be behind Los Angeles’ top three of Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters and Nickell Robey-Coleman, Shields making it back onto a roster would be a significant development considering how concussion issues nearly ended his career. The 30-year-old defender has not played since Week 1 of the 2016 season.
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Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
Jared Goff and Carson Wentz, taken 1-2 in the 2016 @NFL Draft, will be the only Week 1 starting QB (yes, Wentz is iffy) to go the entire preseason without taking a single snap
znModeratortrey wingo@wingoz
This is NOT about safety… it’s about money. 18 games equates to about $590,000 per player and about 31.25 million pet owner. Nothing more, nothing less
znModeratorI JUST CAN’T COMPREHEND what this defense will be like
i know right?
August 28, 2018 at 11:02 pm in reply to: Sean McVay Press Conference … 8/28 … vid & transcript #90014
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams HC Sean McVay — August 28
(On if the team scrimmaged during today’s practice)
“We did. Yeah, we got a lot of different situations in today. Got some work where it was kind of for Oakland and then also just some good competitive stuff and it was a good balance, had some noise going. It was good. We’ll go back and look at the tape, but I thought we got a lot out of it – a lot of different situations, lot of different things that hopefully will help us when we go on to things.”
(On if there was any special emphasis with the starters today)
“Yeah, and you know what, we might be able to do something similar to this next week. We’ll see how these guys feel. But, I think the more competitive atmospheres you can try to create, the better for us. But, like we’ve talked about, you can truly never mimic and emulate those game-type situations. But, I thought our guys are doing a really good job with what we can control and how we practice, getting the most out of it, being out here in full pads working those guys up front on both lines. The coverage is so competitive on the back end with our receivers, our DBs, tight ends and our linebackers. So, it was a lot of good work and a lot of things that we still can improve on for sure.”
(On if there was a sense that they had to cram in a lot of work because of the short week)
“The biggest thing was for a lot of these guys that aren’t going to be playing in this game, we were focusing on a little bit of Oakland, but really, let’s just focus on being as sharp as we can with our systems, with our execution. From an offensive standpoint, being able to handle the noise – which we know is going to be a crazy atmosphere – really probably on Thursday in New Orleans, but then also on September 10 in the Oakland Coliseum. So, then we got a lot of good walk-thru reps with those guys that will be playing on Thursday, just being a short week and with most of those guys having played a lot of snaps just on Saturday.”
(On if he wants the players to have a lot of mental reps because of the short week)
“That’s exactly right. We want to make sure that they feel sharp and want to try to get them as fresh as possible. With the short turnaround, we felt like for those guys taking the majority of the reps on Thursday, more of an above the neck emphasis in those guys that aren’t participating really took place in that scrimmage and it was a lot of good work.”
(On the status of WRs Josh Reynolds and Michael Thomas)
“Yeah, (WR) Mike (Thomas) has had a little bit of a deal with just his hip. He could go if we really wanted to press it, but we’re going to be smart with him and get him as healthy as possible. With (WR) Josh’s (Reynolds) ankle, he’s making progress. With both those guys, I fully expect Mike to be ready to go for the Oakland game and with Josh that’s kind of the goal. Unfortunately, when he did that ankle in the Baltimore game, it was a little bit more severe than we thought. He is making good, positive progress, but we know that he won’t be available on Thursday and the goal is Oakland for him.”
(On if QB Luis Perez will play in Thursday’s game)
“Yeah, we’re expecting him to play that second half. So, (QB) Brandon (Allen) will start out. We expect to see him the first half and get (QB) Luis (Perez) in there and it will be fun to watch him compete. We all know what a good job he’s done in practice and looking forward to seeing him playing in a game.”
(On if there’s any way to quantify how many jobs are on the line going into this final preseason game)
“Yeah, it’s a good question. I think it’s hard to say because some of those decisions might be predicated on who gets released elsewhere. But, we do feel really good about the guys we have in our building. There are certain spots that, I think just from the outside looking in, have a little bit more competition. There will be some definite spots that are up for grabs with the evaluation of Thursday. Like we talked about earlier, most importantly, whether it’s with us, whether it’s in a practice squad role or whether it’s trying to put them in good spots to put good film out there for potentially one of the other teams – that’s what we want to try to do as a coaching staff and looking forward to seeing these guys go on Thursday.”
(On how confident he is with Sean Mannion as the backup quarterback
“Yeah, you feel good. I think we’ll continue to evaluate things moving forward. I think that it’s been up and down, but I think it’s tough because the sample size is so small. What I think says as much as anything, like we talked about at the game, is right after that – it didn’t start out the way you wanted, but a lot of times we talk about that mental toughness, not letting things snowball. He certainly ended the half in a good way the other day, but there’s always room that we can look to for improvement, really for the quarterback room as a whole, not specific to (QB) Sean (Mannion).”
(On what he’s seen from QB Brandon Allen throughout the course of the preseason)
“Yeah, I think he’s done a good job. He’s made some plays with his legs, we talked about it yesterday. Really efficient on third downs. That first drive coming out of the half – I want to say it was about 20 plays, but he’s done a nice job executing the offense. I think with that quarterback spot, there’s so many different things that those guys are responsible for and we’ll always look to see what we can do a better job of putting them in good spots. Then, there’s a lot of different things – whether it’s footwork, timing, rhythm, ownership on some of the stuff in the run game. So, they’re making improvements.”
(On if the quality of the defense helps to balance out the lack of live reps for the first team offense)
“You hope so. You certainly feel like you’ve got a lot of really good players on defense. Got some different guys that are presenting some different problems up front with our rush game. Really, (DT) Ndamukong Suh’s done an excellent job the last couple weeks. You really started to see him take it to a whole other level and then we’ve talked about how competitive our back end is. But, it’s always a different element when you’re getting ready for a different team, but when you’re talking about beating some of the man coverage principles, winning one-on-ones, a lot of good competitive work that we’re getting and I think those guys would be able to tell you that.”
(On if he and any team staff are planning to take a side trip to meet with Aaron Donald’s agents again this year)
“Things are heating up. You might see that sooner than later. It could happen (laughs). It’s exciting. We’re very optimistic. Seriously, we are.”
(On if they’re excited about a potential trip or signing)
“Could be both. Could be both (laughs). So, let’s put it this way – maybe it’ll happen.”
(On how long it might take DT Aaron Donald to get ready for a game if he does sign)
“Well, hopefully if we do get it done in the next couple days, then you feel good about him going for Oakland. I would say, like we’ve kind of talked about, really about a week and a half acclimation-type period. But, getting him in here sooner than later – which is something that we do feel good about – is hopefully going to happen.”
(On if something has changed with Donald’s situation from yesterday)
“Yes (laughs). No, I’m just kidding. No. The dialogue has increased. The level of urgency is extremely high on both sides and let’s go (Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Chief Operating Officer) Kevin Demoff. Alright? Let’s go, man (laughs). I’m just kidding.”
(On if he’s kidding)
“I don’t know (laughs). I think that we’re hopeful that we’ll see if something changes in the near future. This is a serious statement – I’m very, very optimistic that things will be good for us.”
(On if it would be before the game on Thursday)
”Whether it’s going to be before the game or after – being out there in New Orleans – whatever we can do to make it work and do our part to try to demonstrate to (DT) Aaron (Donald) how important it is for us to get him here, be a part of this team. All jokes aside, there is a level of increased optimism. I’m not really kidding around with that. There’s a lot of things that need to get done for it to be finalized, but we’re working in a positive direction. (Senior Director, Communications) Artis (Twyman) it’s okay, man. We’ll get everybody excited, but that is the truth. So Aaron, see you soon buddy.”
(On the duration of Donald’s ongoing contract negotiation)
”I’ve tried not to really think about it. When you get a chance you want to contact (DT) Aaron (Donald) and let him know how important it is. But, you certainly don’t want it to take away from the amount of guys that are here doing a great job getting themselves ready to go. So, you kind of try to control what you can and then certainly in the meantime when we’re not practicing, when we’re not meeting with the players, staying in that contact with Aaron. That’s something that’s been important to us, but it’s also really important that we have a lot of good guys here working and getting themselves ready to go.”
znModeratorUntil I see “Breaking News, the Rams and Aaron Donald have signed a deal.” Close to signing means squat. I’ve seen close to signing, the same zip code, they are living in the same apartment complex. What else is next?
No on “it doesnt mean squat” Jack. This time McVay is saying it. He never did that before.
znModeratorUntil I see “Breaking News, the Rams and Aaron Donald have signed a deal.” Close to signing means squat. I’ve seen close to signing, the same zip code, they are living in the same apartment complex. What else is next?
No it doesnt mean squat Jack. This time McVay is saying it. He never did that before.
znModeratorI had that post in the “the Donald talks” thread but it seems to warrant its own thread.
znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
In no way is playing 18 games better physically for the players. Are ppl actually buying that line? . If we move to 2 preseason games, starters will play more in those as well. -
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