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znModeratorAnd before you ask – yes, being a Ranger was exactly like this…
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams LB Josh Carraway suffered a torn achilles last night. OL Aaron Neary fractured his ankle. Both were guys fighting for roster spots.Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Carraway’s out for the year, and Neary probably is tooD’Marco Farr@DMarcoFarr1
Dang! Caraway was making plays and Neary did a great job leading 2nd unit o-line.Gary Klein@LATimesklein
No starters or key rotational players, including DL Sebastian Joseph-Day and safeties Taylor Rapp and Marqui Christian and , are likely to play against Texans, per McVay.McVay said Shane Waldron would continue to call plays in final preseason game. “I’m looking forward to getting back to it in Carolina and hopefully I’m not rusty,” McVay said. He later said, “There will be no excuses from me if I’m not ready to go.”
znModeratorNcromwell21
I was out at training camp the first two days and my observations were just that the defense appeared to be super fast across the board but was impressed mostly with Fowler he looked like the number 3 overall pick in the draft which he was. I have a feeling that he is going to be special this year, and that the inside/outside pressure we get with Donald Fowler and even Matthews is going to be incredible.
znModeratorJack I tried to fix it via edit.
If that’s not right it;s simple. Post a new, corrected one in response to this post. I can then use edit to sub the corrected one for the old one.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
I’m bullish on the defensive line depth. Assuming everyone stays healthy on the O-line, and that 7 guys dress on game day, I think the strides Edwards is making creates comfort and that Demby/Evans & eventually Neary will battle for that 7th spot on game day.Ogbonnia Okoronkwo and a young group of linebackers and defensive backs are creating depth and confidence on a deep #Rams roster.
Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Sean McVay has been impressed with John Wolford and had the perfect description of his game: “He’s just a little baller”Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Rams QB John Wolford has a background in investment banking. He recognizes — and is taking advantage of — growth opportunities.znModeratorI cant remember seeing a Rams LB come through the hole to stop the run in the backfield as often as Dakota Allen
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Been extremely impressed by @dakota_allen40. Every game he's had a few reps that made you go "ou!". Balled out all preseason and has put himself in a fantastic position to not only make the 53, but to have a legit role in 2019. pic.twitter.com/AoADCDNvU9
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) August 25, 2019
znModeratorRamBall
I know its preseason/backups, but I cant remember seeing a Rams LB come through the hole to stop the run in the backfield as often as Dakota Allen has in these 3 games.
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams HC Sean McVay
(On Colts QB Andrew Luck retiring)
“My reaction is what a great player he is. I’m sure that he’s been going through a lot of things to make this decision. You feel for him, you feel for his team and his teammates. He’s the epitome of class. He’s been a great player, great competitor. I don’t know enough to really have any more of an opinion other than I have a lot of respect. He’s been a great player and I hate it for our game to lose such a great player due to injuries when he’s only been playing for so many years. But, he certainly has made his presence known in this league.”
(On DT Sebastian Joseph-Day not playing)
“He (DT Sebastian Joseph-Day) had a little hamstring tightness. He’s really done such a nice job for us that, listening to (Senior Director, Sports Medicine and Performance) Reggie (Scott) and talking through that there was potentially…you’re going to leave him susceptible to maybe further injuring that. I think just based on all those things, we felt like that was going to be the best decision. We didn’t want to leave him exposed to further injuring that and that was what went into the decision. Had that not occurred, then we were still talking through whether we were going to play him or not. He’s done a nice job for us, but he still is a young player and that’s the reason why we held him out tonight.”
(On how close he is to figuring out his core special teams groups and on special teams penalties)
“We’re in the process of doing that. I think, in a lot of ways, some of these calls, we want to make sure that we understand exactly what’s being officiated and really be able to see it because sometimes you can’t really see exactly what was being called if you don’t get the replay. So, before you want to really go in on having those opinions and things like that, I want to be able to evaluate the tape and I think there’s a lot of guys that are continuing to compete to really carve out a role for themselves on (special) teams for (Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel) ‘Bones’ and for (Assistant Special Teams) Matt (Daniels).”
(On LB Travin Howard)
“He’s done a nice job and I think you see the athleticism, you just felt the suddenness and the explosiveness where he arrived and he arrived violently tonight. I thought (LB) Dakota Allen showed up a couple times as well. Those guys have done a nice job under (Assistant Head Coach/Linebackers/Front Coordinator) Coach (Joe) Barry’s leadership. We, obviously, lost a really good player in (LB) Micah (Kiser) who’s going to be out for a while and we’re going to need those guys to step up and we’ll see exactly how it shapes itself out. Held (LB) Bryce Hager out tonight because he is basically our ‘MIKE’ linebacker. Then really we’re seeing around (LB) Cory (Littleton) and those other guys who’s going to make a name for themselves and make it hard for us to cut it down to 53 (players).”
(On if the coaching staff is noticing the pressure OLB Ogbonnia Okoronkwo and LB Natrez Patrick are bringing off the edge)
“Oh yeah. They’ve done a good job with that. When you get into some of these known passing situations, you get a chance to see if these guys can win in some of those one-on-one pass-rush moments. They’ve shown up. I think both of those guys did a nice job influencing and affecting the quarterback again. We’ll go back and look at the tape, but I thought those guys did a good job and it was good to see (DL) John Franklin(-Myers) show up as well.”
(On how he thinks QB John Wolford performed tonight and how he has played overall)
“I thought he (QB John Wolford) did a great job tonight. I thought he and (QB) Brandon (Allen) both – even though there weren’t a lot of points to show for it, I thought the offense moved under those guys’ leadership and got up and down the field pretty efficiently, had some sustained drives where they were able to get into a rhythm, get some plays off. I was really impressed with John. You look at the fourth-and-4 touchdown pass, sits in there, works through a progression. Then, even in the four-minute drive, to be able to have the presence and the athleticism, he keeps that ball, gets it to a second-and-short on an early down to really finish out that game. Really good poise by him. You could see, he got through some progressions tonight, was able to evade the rush when some guys came into the backfield and made some plays with his legs. You could see why he’s just a little baller, man, and he did a great job tonight.”
(On if this roster is deeper than in previous years and if it will lead to more difficult cut decisions)
“That’s exactly right. It’s going to be a lot of tough decisions, but that’s a good thing. I think that’s a credit to really (General Manager) Les (Snead), his group and our coaching staff to be able to on-board and create some competitive scenarios and situations. You want it to be that way. I think the biggest thing at the end of the day that we want for all these players is if it doesn’t work out for the Rams, hopefully they’re getting a chance to showcase their skills and it works out somewhere else because there are going to be a lot of guys that, unfortunately, won’t be a part of this very shortly. This week will go by quickly, but, very appreciative of, really, just the way that these guys have consistently worked and I think there is some good, competitive decisions that we’ll have to have to make because of the way the guys are playing.”
(On why QB Blake Bortles didn’t play tonight)
“I think we felt like he has done a good job of really establishing himself as the clear number two. If it was a situation where he hasn’t played a lot of football – but when you look at, ‘Alright, what’s really to gain?’ Let’s start to get ourselves in the mindset and the mentality of, ‘Alright, what are we going to do towards the season?’ Because a lot of the stuff that we’re running – as you guys know – is very different than what we’ll look like in terms of concepts, different things that we’ll want to run and do. I think it’s important for he and (QB) Jared (Goff) to really get themselves in the mindset of getting ready for the season and starting to do some different things that we anticipate activating against the (Carolina) Panthers.”
(On what football means to him and why football has been successful and has grown in the last 100 years)
“I think people love it. Football is such a special game where you always talk about how it’s the epitome of a team sport. It takes all 11 (players), all the different lessons that you can learn are so much you’re able to translate into being able to handle the inevitable things that occur in your life. This game has been a true blessing to me and my family. I joke about it, but you love it so much sometimes you probably say, ‘Maybe you need to have a little bit of a life outside of it.’ The people you get to meet, whether it be the players, the coaches, the experiences that it’s presented. My grandfather’s history with this game and what I’ve learned, I could go on and on about what the game has meant to my family, but I think – more than anything – it teaches you lessons and it teaches you that it’s about people being a part of something bigger than yourself. When you’re around special guys like what we are here, you get excited about coming to work and you’re trying to do right for them. When you achieve the success collectively and you’re able to share in some of the moments in the locker room afterwards, there’s no feeling and there’s no other way you can emulate and mimic those types of situations and that’s one of the many things that I love so much about this game.”
(On if he feels the offensive line is developing more cohesion)
“I thought so. I felt like we protected better. We had a chance to let some things develop in the pass-game, got some decent runs off where we were at least in some second-and-6s, some second-and-manageables, where we were able to potentially keep your run-pass options open. I thought that was instrumental in really being able to sustain some drives even though it might not have shown on some of the points where we had to finish in the red zone. But, I thought overall the offense moved the ball pretty consistently all night and that was a result of the offensive line’s consistent play.”
znModeratorPhysical toll on Andrew Luck through 6 NFL seasons:
» Torn cartilage in 2 ribs
» partially torn abdomen
» a lacerated kidney that left him peeing blood
» at least 1 concussion
» a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder
» and this mysterious calf/ankle issue that led to this— Zak Keefer (@zkeefer) August 25, 2019
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Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Despite the fact that they could have recouped $24.8 million from their former QB, the Colts already have reached a financial settlement with Andrew Luck in which they will not take back any of the money they are owed, league sources tell ESPN.Dan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
I watched the end of Calvin Johnson’s career. I watched him walk into a locker room at 5 every morning, physically, emotionally & mentally anguished over the pain of his injuries. I watched his smile fade to “I don’t want this anymore” I think of CJ when I watched Luck last nightAnother layer of the Luck retirement-@Colts HC Frank Reich was part of the Eagles in 2017 when they lost Wentz and he had to try and win with back-up QB in Foles—he was instrumental in that SB run. He’s been down this road and is well equipped to handle it as a coach/play-caller
znModeratorThey need one more decent veteran with experience imo.
That wouldn’t hurt.
They could add a castoff during cut-down week. Rams ahave a good history doing that.
znModeratorHub Arkush@Hub_Arkush
It is impossible to imagine how anyone who claims to be a Colts fan could have booed Andrew Luck tonight. I’m here, I heard it, I saw it and I still can’t believe it. Shame, shame, shame!Mike Sando@SandoNFL
The booing of Andrew Luck is so misguided, at best an emotional reaction made in the absence of any information or thought. Luck played with courage on the field and was a such a strong player/leader. This decision took guts to make. It was obviously hard for him.Richard Sherman@RSherman_25
This is a very rough game. Most people who have not played at this level will never understand what we put our bodies through season after season. We don’t need the sympathy because this is what we signed up for but to “boo” a man that battled for that city is disgraceful.trey wingo@wingoz
The fact that Luck is walking away from over 64 million dollars is telling. No one has ever left that much money on the tableWe can't forget the time that Andrew Luck led the Colts to an epic 28-point comeback win over the Chiefs in the 2014 AFC Wild Card game 🙌
(via @nflthrowback)pic.twitter.com/rDcyJmIO6W
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) August 25, 2019
Best throw of Andrew Luck's career, 2014 Wild Card round vs. Bengals #BigTimeThrow pic.twitter.com/bXLUkklNSF
— Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) August 25, 2019
znModeratorznModeratorKP the playmaker.
5️⃣ takeaways from the first preseason victory!
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 25, 2019
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Five Takeaways from the Rams’ preseason win against the Broncos
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/five-takeaways-from-the-rams-win-against-the-broncos
At Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for the only time this preseason, the Rams defeated the Broncos 10-6 Saturday evening. The vast majority of L.A.’s starters once again rested, so those in reserve roles received lots of reps as a result.
Here are five instant takeaways from the exhibition matchup.
1) WOLFORD, ALLEN LOOK MORE COMFORTABLE WITHIN OFFENSE AS THOMAS AND GREENE CONTRIBUTE
With backup QB Blake Bortles – the starter for the Rams’ first two preseason games – resting, backup Brandon Allen got the start against Denver and looked comfortable across the series he played in.
His 51-yard completion to WR Michael Thomas on the Rams’ first offensive series got the unit off to a strong start, and he helped lead L.A. on a scoring drive capped off by a 37-yard Greg Zuerlein field goal.
QB John Wolford stepped in during the second half and found WR Jalen Greene for a four-yard touchdown pass early in the fourth quarter, capping off a 12-play, 52-yard drive that took nearly six minutes off the clock and gave the Rams a 10-6 lead.
2) PETERSON THE PLAYMAKER
CB Kevin Peterson inspiring preseason added a new chapter Saturday night, as he recorded his second interception of the preseason.
LB Dakota Allen’s tip of Broncos rookie QB Brett Rypien’s pass led to Peterson’s pick in the third quarter.
Peterson’s first interception came in the preseason opener against the Raiders, just over a year removed from suffering an ACL tear in last year’s preseason opener that cost him the remainder of L.A.’s 2018 campaign.
3) STARTERS’ DRESS REHEARSAL LIMITED TO JUST WARMUPS
Traditionally, week three of the preseason has served as the “dress rehearsal” for NFL teams’ starters. They usually play a couple of series, then exit the game to avoid the risk of injury prior to the regular season.
For the Rams, the majority of their starters suited up and participated in pregame warmups, then changed into street clothes prior to kickoff. Considering Rams head coach Sean McVay said this week that playing first-team defense was off the table for Saturday’s game, the move doesn’t come as a total surprise.
The exception was Bortles, who still dressed but did not see any action against the Broncos. DT Sebastian Joseph-Day, projected to start at nose tackle according to the team’s unofficial depth chart, did not play, with rookie Greg Gaines starting in his place.
4) HENDERSON WORKLOAD WATCH
After significant involvement in the passing game against the Cowboys, RB Darrell Henderson Jr. instead saw his script flipped and was more of a factor in the running game.
Henderson led all Rams rushers with 11 carries for 28 yards, his longest attempt going for nine yards. However, in the passing game, he only had one catch for four yards.
The former University of Memphis standout has 23 carries for 57 yards, plus eight catches for 37 yards through three preseason games.
5) THOMAS INVOLVED EARLY AND OFTEN
WR Mike Thomas played a big role in the Rams’ early offensive execution.
His 51-yard reception helped Los Angeles reach the Denver 11 on its first offensive drive. He ended the day with three catches for 76 yards, all in the first half. The former 2016 sixth-round pick’s performances through week 3 of the preseason have made a strong impression.
znModeratorDowntown Rams [DTR]@DowntownRams
Dakota Allen looks faster than anyone on the field.Rams24/7@Rams24_7
Rams soooo much depth at WR and CBVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams have some really difficult cuts/decisions coming. This is by far the deepest Rams team at this point of a season since they got back to L.A, IMHO.Travin Howard is having himself a game. Howard showing some of the athletic ability that the #Rams have always liked from him as an ILB
Not sure that Obo and/or Patrick play much of a role this year, but they are keepers for down the road, absolutely.
Michael Thomas represents so much value as the No. 5 receiver. It’s really nothing against Hodge. It’s more that Thomas has been pretty dynamite throughout camp. He’s earning his spot.
Wolford’s got a little sumthin sumthin about him. Gotta figure Wolford ends up on a practice squad somewhere.
I feel like Edwards has gotten better every week. I think he’ll be OK. Demby played better this week
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How about John Wolford here?!? What a strike to Jalen Greene. Did what Brandon Allen could not…Get the ball into the end zone. pic.twitter.com/vtzIwfsapf
— Downtown Rams [DTR] (@DowntownRams) August 25, 2019
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💪 @J_FranklinMyers 💪 pic.twitter.com/ZZ5vWFC6EN
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 25, 2019
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.@dakota_allen40 tips it! @Pistol_Peterson picks it! pic.twitter.com/BLArmJ9Ht4
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 25, 2019
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.@KhaDarel_4 makin' moves! pic.twitter.com/iJ5XdoXhJz
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 25, 2019
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8 ➡️ 88@BrandonAllen_10 with a 51-yarder to @_MikeTeee! pic.twitter.com/FbkHlOWlQZ
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 25, 2019
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Looks like a bunch of the #Rams starting offensive and defensive players are dressed out – sans Todd Gurley – and warming up.I’m assuming it’s just a dress rehearsal situation.
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams have hit peak preseason: QB Blake Bortles will not start and will not play tonight. He’ll join Jared Goff, and the other starters and key reserves on the sideline.znModeratorNext time they do this will be in a rematch of the NFC Championship, Week 2 vs NO.
Looking forward to @CooperKupp being a part of that one at the @lacoliseum for the @RamsNFL. pic.twitter.com/Eh4qephNNm
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 25, 2019
znModeratorDid McVay give up on that play?
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vSame ole same ole. It;s why he left the game during the superbowl with under 2 minutes and the Titans driving.
As always, just 55% of 75%.
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znModeratorKupp leaves McVay in the dust. #LARams pic.twitter.com/A0i5IjzNuD
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 24, 2019
znModeratorWhen I was a Park Ranger, there was a stand of Hemlocks at the Dingman’s Falls section of the Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area that had never been logged. The trees there are 400 years old and 6 feet in diameter, and Hemlocks are slow growers.
I never knew you were a park ranger.
znModeratorRams honoring Dan Banks in press box. pic.twitter.com/obgIAEsVKX
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) August 24, 2019
znModeratorExcited about our new #RamsRadio digs. Here’s hoping tonight is the first of 10 @RamsNFL home games left in this historic house before making the move to Inglewood.
1 preseason + 7 regular + 2 playoff games. pic.twitter.com/PjQyrp4exV
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) August 24, 2019
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znModeratorWe had to put down two dogs within a couple years. My wife and I told ourselves that our current dog, Fritz, would be the last. We’ll never get another dog after this one.
The pain of having to put a beloved pet down is too much to bear.
At the same time, it’s hard to imagine our lives without this big furry goofball. He brings us such joy.
So I guess the take home of all this is ‘never say never.’
Dogs are amazing and in fact all the evidence suggests that people n dogs are intertwined evolutionarily and linked species. That sounds more obvious than I meant it to. I guess I am trying to say people n dogs are REALLY REALLY intertwined evolutionarily. Like, a lot.
Plus I like dogs, I always have.
Losing them is hard though as you say.
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znModeratorfrom PFF: 32 stats to know after Week 2 of the 2019 NFL preseason
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Los Angeles Rams:
Rookie edge defender Natrez Patrick has played only 58 defensive snaps this preseason, but he’s still managed to tally six pressures and five defensive stops. His impact-play percentage (pressures+stops+batted passes/defensive snaps) of 19.0% ranks third among all edge defenders so far this preseason, behind only Chase Winovich (21.6%) and Damontre Moore (20.3%).
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams vs. Denver Broncos: What to watch for
Six things to look for in Week 3
znModeratorI dunno H. They went through the same things with NB and Allen last year and the times they had to sub in as rookies, they did just fine.
I really think the way they approach coaching linemen in the pre-season makes it look like they are further behind than they actually are.
znModeratorSo for that reason I’d prefer the GE chestnut trees be kept in orchards.
This is one of those odd things.
The american wilds are not what they would have been if Euros had not come over.
Interesting article on that:
American Forests Look Nothing Like They Did 400 Years Ago: https://www.businessinsider.com/northeastern-us-forest-transformation-2013-9
znModeratorAre you going to get another dog?
Not right away. The way our schedules work, most dog care and training falls on me. That’s just a product of having a partner that works nights. Because Bondi was on chemo for nearly a year, a lot extra fell on me. At some points he needed 24/7 care. As a result of all that—I need a break. I can’t just leap into taking care of a new dog right away. So, probably next summer. This time I think we will get a shelter dog. I love pure bred aussies, they are great dogs. But, it’s a luxury to get a pure bred pup when there are so many shelter dogs that need homes.
znModeratorHe goes on to write about the ‘TCI’ or temperament and character inventory which measures among other things ‘self-transcendence.’ Self-transcendence being defined as composed of
(1)’trans-personal identification’ (Big Empathy – empathy with animals, plants, humans, etc)
(2) ‘mysticism’ – interest in ‘beyond-logic’ stuff
(3) ‘self-forgetfulness’ –penchant for getting lost in the moment, being in the ‘zone’ of art, sports, whatever.Blah, blah
I buy the idea that ego reducing, more tranquil and planet-connected living can overall increase a lifespan. In fact, in spite of mysticism…it’s logical.
znModeratorI’m not concerned.
First, Kromer has an eye for finding and developing OL talent. In fact his hit rate for picking linemen is phenomenal–and this goes way back.
Second, you cannot take what is happening in pre-season games as any indication of what the Rams have in terms of OL depth.
Here’s why.
First, no young lineman is going to look good if you line him up with exclusively OTHER young linemen in pre-season games. They do not have the experience or cohesion as a unit and as a direct result of that, pretty much each individual lineman is not going to look good. That’s just inescapable.
Second, they ask them to move around and play different positions on top of it. That just compounds the entire thing–they are REALLY not going to look good as a result.
Third, Kromer insists on them using new techniques he has taught them but which they have not mastered yet (and are in the process of mastering). Because of that, he doesn’t care if they don’t look that good at first. In fact he says so. This is from an article which is the August 23, 2019 at 10:04 pm post in this thread: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/ol-talk-august/#post-104226. Kromer tells the young guys,
“You’re going to stink for a couple of months. You’re not going to be good,” Kromer said when asked to explain his initial message to his young linemen to The Athletic. “But don’t worry about getting beat. Just worry about trying the technique. Work the technique. Work the play. Understand the play. And do that more than worrying about how many you won or lost right now because that’s not what it’s all about. It’s about getting better.”
That is–they use the pre-season games to coach these guys up with the aim being longterm gain in spite of short term growing pains.
What about during the season?
During the season no new lineman is going to line up with 4 other new linemen and then switch positions while mastering new techniques. They’re going to be added to an established and cohesive line, set at one position, and with experience behind them getting up to speed on Rams techniques (which is how the Rams use pre-season games…live reps, gaining experience, investing in the Rams way with longterm not shortterm goals).
So whoever their keepers are among the young linemen, they will have been coached up under fire.
You just cannot judge them by how they look in the pre-season. The way it’s set up for them, there is NO WAY they CAN look good in the pre-season. But they gain from it.
On top of it, in spite of all the growing pains, one player is way ahead–Edwards. And THAT is just golden. It means that the Rams found 2 LOT prospects in 2 years, both lower than the 2nd round. Do you know what the odds are of a team doing that? They’re not very good odds…and the Rams (so far anyway) seem to be defying those odds.
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