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September 24, 2019 at 12:13 pm in reply to: week 4 power rankings & playoff odds & stuff like that #105603
znModeratorfrom PFF: Contenders vs. Pretenders among 8 undefeated teams
CLEAR CONTENDERS
Los Angeles Rams
Why fans should be hopeful
While many were worried about a potential Super Bowl hangover for the Rams, that hasn’t been the case through three weeks. Wide receiver Cooper Kupp is off to a great start, ranking fifth among all receivers with at least 20 targets with an average of 2.58 yards per route run.
Aaron Donald has just one sack through three games, but he has still been dominant, registering 14 total pressures on 111 pass-rushing snaps. Four of his five solo tackles have resulted in a defensive stop, highlighting his work against the run, and it shouldn’t come as a shock when his sack numbers rise again in the coming weeks.
Why fans should be concerned
If there is a weak spot on the Rams offense right now, it’s the offensive line. Left tackle Andrew Whitworth is the highest-graded player on the line, but even he has a PFF grade of just 60.0 so far this season. That itself isn’t a bad grade, but it’s not what you’d be looking for from your best player on the offensive line. Through three weeks, the group has allowed 49 total pressures, something they’ll need to improve upon as the season goes on.[
znModeratorNo I don’t think it’s a psych thing.
And Gurley has never had animated body language etc.
I just think it’s harder to run with 3 inexperienced interior linemen.
September 24, 2019 at 11:28 am in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #105594
znModerator”People are suffering, people are dying, entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.” Watch Greta Thunberg speak at the UN Monday morning. https://t.co/Akkxm9sXdr pic.twitter.com/ahHKlhbYaE
— WIRED (@WIRED) September 23, 2019
znModerator"Goff just hasn’t been able to execute, and that — not any failure on McVay’s part — has been the main culprit in the Rams’ uneven start to the season."
Good read/fair assessment from @theStevenRuiz regarding an underwhelming start for the Rams' offensehttps://t.co/2Y84SBtU1K
— Bate™ (@NoPlanB_) September 24, 2019
znModeratorI expected those two to be good early. But I’m always expecting them to be in trouble as the games pile up.
I don’t expect them to wear out.
It’s not like Donald where peak physical effort is the key to their games. They’re playing on smarts and veteran savvy.
Whatever they are now I expect them to be all year.
PLUS it’s not just those 2. The D is better this year for a load of reasons, all of which apply.
* Wade knows how to use Peters now.
* The Talib/Peters combo is working.
* Johnson is one year better than he was and he was already good.
* Fowler had a full off-season with the team.
* Littleton moved to the other ILB spot which he is perfect for.
* No matter who plays NT he is better than Suh was during the regular season last year.
* Brockers is healthy unlike last year.
* Wade has a ton of good DBs–in fact it’s crazy how deep they are–and is going nutz scheming up ways to use them. Listen to analysts praise how brilliantly the Rams used subpackages in the Browns game.Plus Donald.
This D is as good as if not better than the last top Rams D, which was 99. In the end it may just rank with some of the great 70s Ds.
znModeratorAre the Chiefs and Patriots on a collision course already? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/DL21rcQxLG
— ESPN (@espn) September 24, 2019
znModeratorThis is excellent defense. There wasn’t one route that had a chance. https://t.co/REU3jcsFxr
— Dustin Fox (@DustinFox37) September 23, 2019
znModerator8 teams are still unbeaten after Week 3! #NFL100 pic.twitter.com/J2J98qFMnY
— NFL (@NFL) September 24, 2019
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
The Raiders have signed LB Dakota Allen off the Rams practice squad
.September 23, 2019 at 10:44 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105576
znModeratorCooper Kupp pass pro vs Olivier Vernon pic.twitter.com/AAg7nTj3pw
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
September 23, 2019 at 10:34 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105573
znModeratorRams will need to adjust to this Wide 6 look soon and it means running inside when they see it. pic.twitter.com/pIbbXaUDIR
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
Rams adjust to wide 6 on first play of second half with success. pic.twitter.com/ErzgcU3niZ
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
One more pic.twitter.com/yzSCjfAlWQ
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
Here’s another pic.twitter.com/g9Egiufln2
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
znModeratoralyoshamucci
Well we haven’t played a decent first half yet, but we seem to get our junk together in the 2nd, and this was on the road with an up and coming team … so … yeah Im going ot be a bit lenient.
I skipped last week because it was an ugly game and nothing I was gonna say was more important then just watching Kupp’s TD over and over.
The Great
1) Winning games you’re supposed to win. It seems like a small thing, but it’s not. It’s the stuff we did in 2003, where we made things happen for us on ugly days.
2) Defensive back play … the complexity and subtleties of the coverages were really something.
3) Baker having to throw in 2.5 seconds or less to have any shot at a completion.
4) Woods lay out catch.
The Good
5) Robey Coleman was a great investment.
6) JJ3 2 INTs in 3 games … and poaching that last one to seal the deal was $.
7) Cut back runs.
8) Fowler.
9) Not even having to think about Talib and Peters even though they were going against Beckham and Landry.
10) Allen’s ability to get to the next level is something special.
11) Aaron and Clay getting home.
12) Knowing that Kupp will not just go down.
The Bad
13) Had some dropsies.
14) Jared made some poor throws.
15) I want more Malcolm Brown. (But not in the passing game, ya know?)
16) Letting them have a chance at the end … yeah it was a tipped ball, but there was a lot of traffic.
17) Not scheming enough to Everett and when we hit him it’s often late and he doesn’t get a chance to run … literally we could run sweeps to him.
The Ugly
18) First half woes. I’m not a fan. I’m not a fan of Jared not looking like he’s having fun. Not a fan of miscommunications.
19) Jamil Demby. Get Edwards up to speed, please.
20) How many penalties were there?
znModeratorWe back. 😩@AqibTalib21 joins in on the @CooperKupp fan club. pic.twitter.com/AGjEttvJQz
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 24, 2019
September 23, 2019 at 9:57 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105565
znModeratorWhat Goff does under pressure that Mayfield would benefit to learn. pic.twitter.com/UqgIUnClCl
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 23, 2019
September 23, 2019 at 9:51 pm in reply to: VB: Donald’s dominance, Goff’s struggles, & other takeaways from Rams-Browns #105564
znModeratorIn a twist, the Rams’ defense plays ‘big boy football’ and picks up for the offense
Vincent Bonsignore
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CLEVELAND — Eric Weddle would be lying if he claimed he was happy it all came down to an epic defensive stop Sunday night against the Cleveland Browns. The Rams’ veteran safety might be crazy, in the most wonderful of football and athletic ways, but he certainly isn’t stupid or reckless.
In a perfect world, Weddle would have been chilling on the sideline in the closing minutes, baseball cap pulled tight over his head and basking in a comfortable Rams road win.
Instead, he was on the field with his defensive teammates, trying to pick up Rams quarterback Jared Goff after the awful interception he threw late in the fourth quarter of a game the Rams led by only seven points. That error gave the Browns one more chance to pull even and send the game to overtime. That looked likely when Baker Mayfield drove the Browns to the Rams’ 4-yard line to set up a first-and-goal situation with 43 seconds remaining.
Weddle is all about challenges. As are Aaron Donald, John Johnson, Clay Matthews, Cory Littleton, Aqib Talib and everyone else on what is emerging as a very good, very smart and uniquely talented Rams defense.
But this was pushing it.
“I’d much rather have the game in hand than living like that,” Weddle said, his mischievous smile wide and affable.
So, happy? No.
Maybe appropriate is the best word to describe the situation, given the way the Rams’ defense rose to the challenge all night inside the bedlam of FirstEnergy Stadium. And also, for that matter, through the first three weeks of the season.
With the Rams’ offense still searching for consistency, the line not yet clicking completely, Goff following two good throws with one curious one, Todd Gurley on a load-management program and Sean McVay not yet satisfied with his play-calling, the Rams increasingly have needed to lean on their defense to survive their first three games.
That included their 20-13 win on Sunday, in which the Rams had to dig as deep as they could — both in terms of athletic ability and intelligence — to deal with all the pressure presented by Mayfield and a loaded Browns offense.
And as Rams already have shown this year, this defense is as smart as it is talented.
“And that’s what makes it so much fun,” Weddle said. “It’s amazing to be able to think on the fly and be able to check and make calls that maybe we didn’t go over (in practice) that we can still do on the fly if I see something. And the guys understand and they trust me to say, ‘Hey, let’s make this check, let’s make this call and we’ll get through it because I think it might be better.’ And that is so much fun.”
And that’s precisely how Weddle and his defensive brothers held a powerful Browns offense to 270 yards, including only 175 through the air. They battered Mayfield into 18 of 36 passing and allowed star receiver Odell Beckham Jr. just six catches for 56 yards.
Aaron Donald recorded his first sack of the season while tormenting Mayfield and the Browns all game long, practically taking up residence in the Browns’ backfield. Matthews had two sacks, which was particularly special given that his father, Clay Jr., was inducted into the Browns’ Ring of Honor on Sunday.
Most important, they took the burden off Goff and the offense in the best way possible, by allowing just three points off three Rams turnovers.
“You can’t say enough about the defense,” McVay said.
“We were executing like a mug, baby!” Talib said. “We had a great game plan. And we were out there executing that thing.”
Never more so than when Mayfield and the Browns inched close to the Rams’ end zone and set up a very simple mathematical equation with 43 seconds remaining. The Browns had four plays to pick up four yards. The Rams’ defense needed to make four stops.
The clarity of it all was something to behold.
It’s a point Weddle echoed in the huddle.
“We got four shots to do this,” is what he remembers telling his teammates. “So let’s just worry about this play. Don’t worry about the next play. Let’s win the down in front of us and move on to the next.”
“Big boy football,” is how outside linebacker Dante Fowler put it. “It’s time to be stout. It’s time to bow up. The game was on us and we were fine with that.”
Or as Johnson explained: “Four stops. One at a time. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Let’s get off the field and go home.”
There was no anger over the situation the offense created for them. No worry or concern or a focus on anything other than the immediate play.
“We don’t make excuses,” Weddle said. “We don’t worry about what had happened to that point. We just gotta nut up, play our game and play through the down. We move on, instantly.”
With Donald, Fowler and Matthews creating push up front to force Mayfield off his spot, Mayfield threw errantly on first, second and third downs. That set up fourth and goal with 33 seconds left.
“One play!” Johnson said. “One play. You can’t survive for one play? You shouldn’t be in this league.”
Johnson had been oh-so-close to a couple interceptions throughout the game, which is why it seemed appropriate that he dove in the end zone to come up with the game-deciding pick on fourth down.
“I just kept telling him don’t worry, it’s all good, you’re gonna get another chance at one,” Weddle said Johnson. “And man, we needed that right there. But I didn’t even know he got it. I just turned and I saw him wrestling with it on the ground and I was like, ‘Oh my God, what happened?’ So it was epic that it came down to the secondary.”
And the defense as a whole, really.
At some point, you figure the Rams’ offense will join the party for four full quarters. For various reasons, that has yet to happen. In past years that would have been a problem. Maybe somewhere down the line it will cost the Rams a win.
Three games into the season, though, the Rams’ defense has made sure that hasn’t happened
September 23, 2019 at 8:35 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105562
znModeratorAaron Donald high fived Drew Brees last week.
This week he felt like giving Baker Mayfield a hug. pic.twitter.com/z7KPaecMYB
— Rams Uncensored (@RamsUncensored) September 23, 2019
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams@RamsNFL
head coach Sean McVay on the status of OL Austin Blythe (ankle) and TE Tyler Higbee (chest):“They’re both making good progress. They’ll still be day-to-day, but the anticipation and hope is they’ll be play to play this week.”
Rams24/7@Rams24_7
The Rams haven’t allowed a 100 yard WR this season. I think Talib is a huge factor. Over the past 2 seasons:-With Talib (13 games): 3 100+ WRs
-Without Talib (8 games): 6 100+ WRsSeptember 23, 2019 at 8:26 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105560
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znModeratorGoff's numbers from his first 27 games under McVay were Manning-like.
Since the 54-51 shootout with Mahomes (11 games), they have been Sam Bradford-like
But the 8-3 record forgives a lot. Defense pretty good last 11 pic.twitter.com/OGW2hdOss8
— 𝐏𝐫𝐨 𝐅𝐨𝐨𝐭𝐛𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐉𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥🏈 (@NFL_Journal) September 23, 2019
znModeratorAfter having 10 holding penalties on Thursday, the NFL made a call to "De-emphasize" holding calls.@MikePereira and @DeanBlandino break down how we already saw the impact of that decision on Sunday. pic.twitter.com/c7N1Q0zJR6
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) September 23, 2019
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rough outing for Jared Goff in his first nationally televised game since the Super Bowl. The narrative on him is not about to improve after this.Dan Orlovsky@danorlovsky7
Somewhat lost in the @RamsNFL game last night is the fact that @CooperKupp has become a top 5 WR in the #NFL and is as good as anyone 1) at the line of scrimmage and 2) at the top of his routes
@minakimesPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
Cooper Kupp caught 91.7% of his targets yesterday, totaling 102 yards, 2 touchdowns, and a passer rating of 141.7 when targetedThis ASTOUNDING performance earned him the highest overall offensive grade for the #LARams this week!
Austin Gayle@PFF_AustinGayle
Malcolm Brown and Tony Pollard both rank inside the top-five in forced missed tackles per attempt and YAC per attempt among the 44 NFL backs with 20+ carries this season.In line for BIG contracts, I’m sure.
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Albert Breer, from: https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/23/jacoby-brissett-daniel-jones-teddy-bridgewater-gardner-minshew-mmqb-week-3
The results of the Rams’ plan to play Gurley’s situation by ear early in the season: 44 rushes, 203 yards, TD; four catches, 8 yards. By comparison, last year at this point, he had 255 yards and four touchdowns on 62 carries, and 121 receiving yards and another touchdown on 11 catches.September 23, 2019 at 7:14 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105554
znModeratorSo look, terrible call on the draw … but it’s actually blocked well and the unaccounted player, Weddle, makes the play. It might have had a chance had Weddle reacted slower pic.twitter.com/awLVOmnmcP
— Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) September 23, 2019
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
The Rams are 3-0 for the fifth time since 1999. They reached the Super Bowl in three of the previous four instances, per @ESPNStatsInfo.—
Pictured here: Aaron Donald with a bad back. pic.twitter.com/J3FOS8dkH5
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) September 23, 2019
znModeratorDallas/Schmelless. Rams are on the list too.
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The Cowboys have gained a 1st down on 43.8% of their passing plays, while the Jets are at a miserable 20.6%. pic.twitter.com/4G7NCRp9Ft
— Football Perspective (@fbgchase) September 23, 2019
September 23, 2019 at 3:51 pm in reply to: highlights, Browns game … + some Waldman & others #105550
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znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
It pays to play next to the best player on Earth. Just ask Clay Matthews and Dante Fowler.Fowler – 1 sack on a stunt, 1 sack against a RB
Matthews – 1 sack on a TE, 1 completely free, 2 coverage sacks (one of which Mayfield ran right into yesterday)ESPN Los Angeles@ESPNLosAngeles
“Anytime you can get a win in this league, you’re happy about that but when you have a team that looks inwardly & say we still gotta be better, I think that’s brewing something special & we do have to be better…”@brandincooks with @keyshawn, @LZGranderson, & @TravisRodgers
LeCharles Bentley@64AMDG
Baker has NOT regressed. He’s STILL learning. Can’t misinterpret early flashes of excellence as a baseline of performance. He’s not there, yet. This is good for him, or any athlete that finds early success.Jason Cole@JasonCole62
Exactly. People don’t understand that QBs play, get scouted, get attacked, then we see if they can adjust. He hasn’t learned enough to regress.
znModerator“What do the Browns lack right now? Character… They are the most predictable team in the league.”@ColinCowherd reacts to Cleveland's slow start pic.twitter.com/6rCRz2wseQ
— Herd w/Colin Cowherd (@TheHerd) September 23, 2019
znModeratorfrom PFF ReFocused: Los Angeles Rams 20, Cleveland Browns 13
https://www.pff.com/news/pro-nfl-week-3-pff-refocused-los-angeles-rams-20-cleveland-browns-13
LOS ANGELES RAMS
Jared Goff had a mixed game, throwing two interceptions, the second with 2:46 left in the game and allowed the Browns to drive down and have a chance to tie up the game. Goff rarely pushed the ball downfield and struggled to create enough big plays through the air to put the Browns away earlier in the game.
Cooper Kupp was the main target man, as the Browns played with two deep safeties for the majority of the game and allowed the Rams slot receiver to take advantage in the middle of the field. He finished the game with 11 catches for 102 yards and two touchdowns.
Aaron Donald registered his first sack of the season but also racked up more than half a dozen pressures to go along with that. Donald was also a force in run defense, as he continually penetrated upfield and disrupted cut lanes on the Browns’ outside zone plays.
Rookie Takeaways
Rookie safety Taylor Rapp had a rough evening, as he struggled in his run fits and was blocked at the second level quite often. In coverage, he struggled in his assignments, allowed multiple catches to be converted into a first down and was responsible for coverage on the Browns’ lone touchdown. He completely redeemed himself, however, when he broke up a pass at the back of the end zone on the Browns’ final drive, preventing a touchdown.
znModeratormax
Schedule doesn’t look so daunting now
29 (Sun.) Tampa Bay 4:05 PM
10/03 (Thu.) @ Seattle 8:20 PM
10/13 (Sun.) San Francisco 4:05 PM
10/20 (Sun.) @ Atlanta 1:00 PM
10/27 (Sun.) Cincinnati 1:00 PM
11/10 (Sun.) @ Pittsburgh 4:25 PM
11/17 (Sun.) Chicago 8:20 PM
11/25 (Mon.) Baltimore 8:15 PM
12/01 (Sun.) @ Arizona 4:05 PM
12/08 (Sun.) Seattle 8:20 PM
12/15 (Sun.) @ Dallas 4:25 PM
12/21 (Sat.) @ San Francisco 1:00 PM
12/29 (Sun.) Arizona 4:25 PMOutside our division, we have 2 or 3 tough ones. Bears and Ravens at home, and at Dallas.
Steelers are a mess, and Falcons look like their about to fire their coach.
12 wins looks very doable.
znModeratorPeter King: from https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/23/daniel-jones-giants-nfl-week-3-fmia-peter-king/?cid=fmiatw
The Rams really impressed me Sunday, and they didn’t even blow out the Browns. Not an easy game, going into the emotional pit of the Browns stadium, where fans were celebrating hosting a Sunday-nighter for the first time since Mastadons roamed the earth. The Rams, per PFF, had 25 quarterback disruptions (sacks, hits, significant hurries), seven by Aaron Donald. Baker Mayfield’s going to have nightmares of Donald. But he’s not the only one. Two rushers acquired in the past year, Dante Fowler Jr. and Clay Matthews, combined for 12 disruptions of Mayfield. Particularly when Mayfield tried to roll right and throw—a staple of his mobile game—he could barely breathe. The final was 20-13, and the Rams have to feel good about three things: They’ve traveled to Eastern Time twice in the first three weeks and beaten competitive teams, Carolina and Cleveland. They haven’t played their best offensive football yet—which is slightly worrisome because the Cleveland secondary was so depleted Sunday. And the return of Cooper Kupp makes a good receiving corps superior. I’m buying Ram stock.
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