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September 26, 2019 at 9:35 am in reply to: week 4 power rankings & playoff odds & stuff like that #105700
znModerator#LARams come out as #PFF's top-ranked team in the NFC, and the 3rd ranked team in the league! https://t.co/XkGReGSZXu
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) September 26, 2019
znModeratorJared Goff and Rams’ offense are weighed down without Todd Gurley carrying load
BILL PLASCHKE
This might seem like a crazy thing to write about an unbeaten football team.
This might appear nonsensical considering this team has the NFL’s most brilliant young head coach, its most productive running back, and a talented maturing quarterback.
This might sound nutty, but it’s true, and those who have watched three games with a gnawing sense of unfamiliarity and uncertainty know it’s true.
The Rams offense isn’t right.
The Rams offense has lost its swagger, misplaced its mojo, forgotten its identity.
The Rams are 3-0, but it’s a defensive 3-0, a trudging 3-0, a really weird 3-0.
They won their first game against an injured quarterback, their second against a backup quarterback, and their third with a goal-line stand.
The Rams offense didn’t win any of those games. The offense just sort of showed up, made a handful of big plays, and scurried away in the shadow of Aaron Donald.
Last season their attack was so powerful, everybody wanted to imitate their game plan and clone their head coach. For much of this season, they’ve been just another high-priced huddle.
Last season they scored 32.9 points per game. This season they’re down more than a touchdown, scoring 25.7 points per game.
Last season they ranked second with 421 yards per game. This season they’re down more than 60 yards at 358 per game, ranking them squarely in the middle of the league.
Does anything about the Rams offensive talent and coaching and scheme cry out “mediocre” to you? It shouldn’t, but it does, and it’s not too hard to figure why.
Todd Gurley is barely here, and Jared Goff isn’t the same without him.
Gurley has been involved in 15% fewer snaps than last season, Goff no longer benefits from the back’s dominating presence, and everything is just off.
No more long, exhausting Gurley-led drives. No more great Goff play-action screen passes. No more feeling of sustained momentum.
Gurley has been slowed by what is clearly load management. Goff simply hasn’t stepped up to the new challenge. This perfect backfield storm hasn’t capsized the Rams yet, but at some point, it will, and they know it.
“Offensively our standards are so high, we expect to be better, and we need to be if we want to win games later in the year and continue to be competitive,” Goff said Wednesday at his weekly news conference at the Rams practice facility in Thousand Oaks. “In certain games down the road it won’t be enough.”
The offense has been so sluggish, when I mentioned to coach Sean McVay on Wednesday that it didn’t seem as sharp as in previous years, he actually agreed.
“Absolutely,” he said at his daily news conference. “I haven’t done a good enough job for us, I think it starts with me. … We expect to be sharper overall … if I do a better job, and everybody else is a little bit better, we’re hopeful we’ll see better results.”
Did you catch the running theme there? McVay blaming himself? Bless his heart, for the sake of protecting his players, the young coach always blames himself. From the moment he set foot in Thousand Oaks three years ago, he’s been publicly carrying the burden for seemingly every Rams mistake, highlighted by him taking full responsibility on a national stage for the three measly points the Rams scored in the Super Bowl.
The accountability is admirable. His players love him for it. It has set the tone for a calm locker room where even the most volatile of veterans isn’t afraid to look in a mirror.
“When you feel like you’re responsible for a lot of the things that you could do better to help set it up in a situation that’s more conducive for success, I think that’s the truth,” McVay said. “I’m not going to make any excuses for why we haven’t gotten it done up to the level of our standards over the first three weeks. All I know how to do is to work as hard as I can to get it fixed. I’m just going to keep grinding every single day.”
Yet the heat does not always belong on McVay. And in the current case of the ornery offense, the issues are much bigger than him.
First, no matter how much gobbledygook he spreads about failing to get Gurley the ball — McVay constantly says he needs to do a better job of play calling, as if his photographic brain just forgets about the goliath in his backfield — the truth is in Gurley’s arthritic left knee.
The knee can’t withstand everyday NFL pounding. The knee needs to be coddled for the moments when it is really needed. The Rams won’t say this, but they don’t have to say it, they’ve been doing it since he broke down at the end of last spring. There is a reason Gurley did not participate in team drills during the offseason, practiced only every other day during training camp, didn’t play in the preseason, and hasn’t been practicing on Fridays.
Yet Wednesday, when asked about increasing Gurley’s usage, McVay seriously said, “We’ve got to have more plays.”
More plays? They rank ninth in the league in snaps.
He also went back to that game management rationale, claiming, “More than anything, the feel, the flow of the game … getting Malcolm [Brown] involved a little bit too.”
Brown is by all accounts a great teammate and important cog, but it stretches the imagination to think his presence is what is keeping Gurley on the bench.
McVay is emptying his pockets of every scrap of coach speak to avoid saying the words “load management.” But that’s what it is, that’s the new Rams normal, which brings up the second Rams problem.
Goff isn’t handling that reality very well. He has thrown for four touchdowns with three interceptions while looking mostly pedestrian. His quarterback rating of 84.5 is more than 16 points below last year’s mark. His completion percentage is down. His yards-per-completion is down. He struggles to get comfortable behind a reshaped offensive line.
Goff is living down to everyone’s worst fears — system quarterback having trouble when the system is out of whack — and he acknowledges his role. He respects his coach falling on his sword, but he’s having none of it.
“We do appreciate when he does that, it kind of shows that accountability that he preaches … but no, it’s execution and detail and just being on top of our stuff and performing, basic performance,” Goff said. “Just go out there and throw and catch and make the plays you’re supposed to make and everything will fall into place … we can do a lot more on our part, and need to, offensively, to get anywhere.”
They eventually will need Gurley to be more involved. They will eventually need Goff to show up. They will need to get anywhere but where they are.
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znModeratorBreaking down the myths and realities of Jared Goff’s first three games
Rich Hammond
What’s wrong with Jared Goff?
The most scrutinized 3-0 quarterback in the NFL, Goff is the subject of much angst because, while the Rams take an undefeated record into Sunday’s home game against Tampa Bay, he hasn’t performed up to the lofty outside expectations set for him.
For some critics, the pungent waft of Super Bowl disappointment still lingers. For others, it’s a question of whether a 24-year-old quarterback deserved a contract extension that included $110 million in guaranteed money. And while they won’t admit it, a small percentage of Goff’s critics seemingly made up their minds during his dreadful 2016 rookie season and continue to pounce on every told-you-so moment.
There’s zero panic at Rams headquarters.
“He’s had some really good moments,” coach Sean McVay said of Goff, “and I think there’s some situations that really, a lot of it starts with some of the selections and some of the spots that I put him in (as a play-caller). Ultimately, the goal is to win games and for us to be 3-0.
“I think he’s shown why he’s a special player and I think like anything else, there’s always going to be some things that we look at that we can improve. I’m excited to do that with him.”
This is life for Goff and the Rams, and everyone understands it. The Rams are Super Bowl contenders with extraordinary talent at running back and receiver, and the quarterback must play at a high level. Occasional mistakes are understandable, but a prolonged dip in production will raise questions.
What is fair? What is reality and what is myth when it comes to Goff’s first three games? Let’s dissect some of the things being said about his performance this month.
Goff is struggling
Yes, this is objectively true, with a couple caveats. The sample size (three games) remains small and the Rams’ schedule hasn’t been easy, with a sweltering game at Carolina, a loud Sunday night affair in Cleveland and a rematch of last season’s NFC title game against the motivated New Orleans Saints.
Let’s check the consensus this Sunday night after Goff faces a Tampa Bay defense that allowed 300-plus passing yards to the Panthers and Giants in the past two weeks and didn’t record an interception in either game. This certainly has the feel of a “correction” game in terms of Goff’s stats.
Still, by every statistical measure — other than, you know, wins — Goff is down this season. His passer rating of 84.5 ranks 21st among the 27 NFL quarterbacks who have attempted at least 80 passes, and his completion percentage (62.9) ranks 17th. Goff has yet to throw for 300 yards, which he did in eight of 16 games last season, and he has totaled four touchdowns and three interceptions.
The last part is the most troubling. Goff’s arm strength is fine — remember the old “small hands” issue? — and his footwork has improved, but he can’t make this many mistakes. Against the Browns last Sunday, Goff threw two interceptions and lost a fumble.
These haven’t really been eye-popping plays by defenders. Goff either has been making bad decisions with the ball or holding onto it too long in the pocket. A coach always wants his quarterback to make big plays, yes, but think of a QB as being a doctor. The first rule is “Do no harm,” and Goff must reduce his turnovers.
Here are Goff’s two interceptions from the Cleveland game.
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Goff is not elite
This is not objectively answerable. The word “elite” gets tossed around with no definition. In terms of skill and production, is Goff a top-five NFL quarterback? Probably not. Top 10? Maybe, maybe not, but he also has a conference title, two Pro Bowl selections and more than 10,000 yards on his resume before his 25th birthday. No other active quarterback can say that. Isn’t that worth something?
Again, sample size is important here. In 2018, Goff finished fourth among all quarterbacks in yards (4,688), tied for sixth in touchdowns (32) and eighth in quarterback rating (101.1). That doesn’t include the NFC Championship Game, in which Goff took the field with a hobbled Todd Gurley and an off-his-couch C.J. Anderson and rallied the Rams to victory after a 13-point first-quarter deficit.
Yes, the stakes get raised when a quarterback signs a second contract. It’s now fair to measure Goff against the best because that is how he is getting paid. Is Goff “elite” this season? No, absolutely not by any measure. Where does he rank when his excellent 2017 and 2018 seasons are factored in?
Let’s top the list with (in alphabetical order) Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers. Round out the top five with Matt Ryan. Is Goff in that class? No, not yet. How about Philip Rivers and Ben Roethlisberger? Those are two accomplished veterans who get the nod over Goff. But who else? Does Goff really belong behind Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz or Russell Wilson, when factoring in a combination of talent and accomplishments? The vote here is no.
Then there’s the silliness about Goff being a system quarterback. Goff played in a version of the “air raid” system at Cal, and critics said those skills wouldn’t translate to the NFL But then he thrived under McVay with some of the same critics scoffing that Goff simply benefitted from McVay’s great scheming and play-calling. It’s a little comical. Yes, McVay is smart, but does anyone really believe that if backup Blake Bortles — who once reached the AFC Championship Game but never came close to meeting expectations in Jacksonville — took over for Goff that the Rams would equally thrive?
Goff is holding back the Rams
This is mostly false. Goff might not be helping the Rams’ offense as much as usual, but he’s not alone.
The offensive line, at the moment, has three new members with a combined total of 10 NFL starts. Todd Gurley is, at best, on some type of limited-usage plan and, at worst, isn’t capable of the same dynamism he displayed in 2017 and 2018. In general, McVay, the Rams’ coach/play-caller, still seems to be trying to figure out the defensive looks that teams have been trying against the Rams.
Goff hasn’t helped, but as my colleague Vinny Bonsignore wrote this week, the blame should be shared, not shouldered.
The line shouldn’t get all the blame, either. Brian Allen arguably has been an upgrade at center over John Sullivan, and Joe Noteboom has been fine at left guard. But these are young guys and it’s not always going to be perfect. When Goff doesn’t look totally comfortable in the pocket and doesn’t seem to be keeping his eyes downfield at all times, that can (and perhaps should) be a sign that he has offensive-line play in the back of his head. There’s been some evidence of that.
And while the play of the line can be debated — Pro Football Focus grades the Rams’ line as the 10th-best in the NFL this season, but Jamil Demby had a rough debut game against the Browns — the loss of veterans Sullivan and Rodger Saffold shouldn’t be overlooked. At center, for instance, Sullivan’s effectiveness had started to wane, but he remained valuable because of his intelligence and ability to point out things at the line of scrimmage. Is Allen able to provide the same input to Goff?
Beyond that, McVay has acknowledged that his play-calling needs improvement, and the Rams really need to figure out what’s going on with Gurley, who has totaled 44 carries in three games. Even if the Rams are (smartly) managing his workload, something doesn’t look quite right, and Gurley’s lack of impact trickles down to the pass game and to Goff.
Goff is awful on the road
This is where things get complicated. There’s a loud narrative that Goff is much worse on the road than at home, and NBC pushed it last Sunday with a graphic that showed the disparity in his statistical split.
Context is important and will be provided, but first here’s a look at the raw numbers.
Comp
Pct Yards Per
Pass Att TD/INT
Ratio Passer
Rating
Goff at home
(21 career games) 63.6 8.05 2.83 97.8
Goff on the road
(21 career games) 60.6 7.24 2.06 89.7
So yes, there’s evidence Goff is better at home, somewhat substantially, and there’s even more analysis to be done about his performances in warm, dry weather compared to less-ideal conditions. But here’s the thing: Almost every quarterback is worse on the road, and Goff shouldn’t even be drawing the most attention.Passer rating is a stat with inherent flaws, but it remains a fair overall measure. Goff’s career rating is 8.1 points better at home than on the road. What does that mean? For context, let’s measure Goff against a group of 10 other quarterbacks who could be considered the best in the NFL right now.
Wentz’s career passer rating at home is 16.5 points higher than on the road. Three other top quarterbacks have a wider home/road split than Goff — Brees (10.9), Roethlisberger (9.6) and Rodgers (9.1) — while Ryan is tied with Goff at 8.1.
The only top quarterbacks with a smaller home/road rating disparity are Brady (2.4), Rivers (3.0), Wilson (4.4) and Prescott (5.3). Mahomes is substantially better on the road (11.1) but with a relatively small sample size (11 games).
How about other stats? Goff’s TD-to-interception ratio is 0.77 percent better at home. That’s a very modest difference, and only four of those top-10 quarterbacks have a narrower difference. Goff suffers a bit more in stats such as completion percentage (he’s 3.0 percent better at home) and yards per attempt (0.81 more at home). In those categories, Goff is worse on the road than his peers, sometimes substantially.
Goff isn’t in peak form. There’s no cause for panic. Both of these things can be true at the same time. Criticism is understandable but seems inflated because of the way the Rams struggled in the Super Bowl and because the Rams have played two road games while trying to navigate life with new linemen and an odd run game.
Check back in mid-October. If Goff’s numbers haven’t rebounded and if the Rams still don’t look like themselves on offense, further analysis will be warranted. For now, there’s a lot of concern about the quarterback of an undefeated team.
znModeratorTed’s Film Room: The Rams still haven’t quite figured out the Fangio Blueprint
Ted Nguyen
The Rams have avoided the dreaded Super Bowl hangover so far this season. They are rolling at 3-0 but they’ve done so on the strength of their much-improved defense. The offense has been good (ranked 16th in offensive DVOA) but not as explosive as they once were (they were ranked 2nd last year). Yes, the Rams have had to replace the interior of their offensive line with less experienced players but they also got back a healthy Cooper Kupp and Todd Gurley, yet still haven’t looked close to the explosive offense that took the league by storm when head coach Sean McVay took over two years ago.
Who’s at fault for that? Blame none other than Broncos head coach Vic Fangio. Last year, Fangio was the defensive coordinator for the Bears and he was the first coach who was able to stop the Rams’ offense, holding them to a mere six points in Week 14. He did it with a 6-1 front with soft zone (either cover 4 or cover 3) behind it.
The principles of the defense were designed to take away exactly what made the Rams’ offense so dangerous. By putting two extra edge players on each side of a four-man line, the defense is already in position to take away plays designed to attack the edge like outside zone, fly sweep, and boots— all three are the Rams’ bread-and-butter.
In Super Bowl LIII, the Patriots took Fangio’s plan, tailored it to their personnel, and completely committed to it against the Rams, holding them to three points. (For more detail on how the 6-1 works, check out my Super Bowl film review). Rams head coach Sean McVay has had all offseason to think about what he would have done differently against that defense and though he’s come up with a few answers, he hasn’t yet solved the conundrum that Fangio’s blueprint presents his offense.
So far this season, the Saints and Browns also copied Fangio’s blueprint and slowed down the Rams’ offense. In 2017, the Rams averaged 5.69 yards per play on early downs (1st and 2nd down), which ranked sixth in the NFL. In 2018, they averaged 6.53 yards per play on early downs, which ranked second. So far, in 2019, they are averaging 5.09 yards per play on early downs, which ranks 24th in the league.
“In a lot of instances, (the 6-1) is designed to try to discourage (outside zone),” said McVay on his weekly podcast.
The Rams started having some success running the outside zone against the 6-1 this season but in McVay’s words, “It wasn’t the big 20-25 yard runs that we’ve been accustomed to.”
In the the past, the Rams relied on explosive plays with their outsize zone game on early downs but with teams limiting their run game, they’re much less efficient and are forced to drive the length of the field, which they haven’t been able to do on a consistent basis in 2019.
“(The 6-1) had some success in instances and it’s something that we’ve seen show up a handful of times in the first three weeks and it’s something that I think we can expect to see as we move forward and it’s a great challenge,” said McVay. “That’s what you love about it and why you do some work during the week and make sure that you have good plans accordingly.”
This season, McVay has some answers against the 6-1 that he didn’t have in the Super Bowl but the Rams’ offense still hasn’t quite looked like the explosive unit we’ve been accustomed to.
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Regular outside zone with a stretch handoff is a slow developing play. The running back attacks the edge but the play will usually cut vertically or back against the grain. Against the 6-1, it’s very tough for offensive linemen to hold their blocks for too long and without a huge threat of the play bouncing outside because of the extra edge players on the line of scrimmage, the interior players don’t have to pursue as hard and risk opening up lanes for the running back.
“(Defenses) are just doing certain things with some different bodies that we are normally accustomed to being off the line of scrimmage,” explained McVay.
The extra bodies on the line of scrimmage also force the offensive line to single block rather than double team like they want to do to create movement off the line.
Toss
To avoid the cluster inside, the Rams have ran more “crack toss” to get the ball to the perimeter quickly. If the play can get past the first level, it’ll usually go for a big play because there is only one off-ball linebacker to chase down the toss from the inside and the rest of the pursuit could get congested.
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Here, the Rams cracked the outside linebacker and defensive end with receivers Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods and pulled tight end Gerald Everett and left tackle Andrew Whitworth outside to lead block for running back Malcolm Brown.
However, the problem with relying on the toss is that if opponents start expecting it, it’s extremely tough to consistently outrun NFL defenses even if the pursuit is hindered by alignment. Additionally, once the ball is tossed, the entire defense is going to pursuit the ball aggressively because there is not much of a threat of play action because defenders can very clearly see the ball being tossed to the running back.
The Rams did not have as much success with the crack toss against the Browns.
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Here, the Rams initially got a blocker on every defender to the play side. The outside receiver Brandin Cooks blocked the safety rather than the corner by design because in most cases, safeties are better tacklers than cornerbacks. However, the corner came down from the secondary hard and did a great job of taking down Gurley while maintaining outside leverage.
Though the crack toss is a good play against the 6-1, it shouldn’t be relied upon too often. The Rams can get a big gain here and there but it’s tough to get consistent yardage on toss plays in the NFL.
Taking advantage of soft coverage
One of the reasons defenses play soft zone coverage behind the 6-1 front is because the Rams use so many condensed formations. Defenses are more worried about getting beat deep vertically than they are about horizontal space. Receivers are closer to the middle of the field where all the defenders are packed in so the defense isn’t threatened horizontally in the pass game.
“We want to activate certain things based on how that front structure is accompanied with coverage-wise,” said McVay.
Concepts that McVay seems to want to “activate” are route combinations that take advantage of underneath space. Against the Rams and Saints, they’ve had some success with a play action concept that we’ll call P14, X- out, slot- find. It attacks the flat area with an out from the X receiver and attacks the one inside linebacker with an option route in the middle of the field from the slot.
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Here, the inside linebacker wasn’t affected by the play fake but chased the flat for some reason. Kupp simply replaced the linebacker and settled in the hole in zone.
Goff’s first read on the play is the “find” route. If it’s covered, he’ll progress to the “out”. On most variations of this play, he also has check downs in the flats.
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On this play, against the Browns, the safety initially rotated towards Cooks but moved towards Kupp, so Goff went to his next read and looked to Cooks on the out. The play action held the flat defender so there was plenty of space for Cooks to work back to. With Cooks’ ability to threaten corners with his vertical speed and ability to stop on a dime, this is a very hard route for any cornerback to cover in off-coverage.
However, just like the toss, if you go to the well too many times, NFL defenders are going to start anticipating it coming.
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Here, cornerback T.J. Carrie anticipated the out route was coming and jumped it. Goff also threw the ball a little late, which gave Carrie time to break on the ball. Because of the depth of the route, it’ll take time for the pass to get to Goff’s intended target. Elite cornerbacks will start jumping this route and it’s difficult to complement the play with a double move when the break point is so far downfield.
A good complementary play that the Rams ran against the Browns is a deep dig route or curl route. By running in-breaking routes with deep stems, the Rams could still take advantage of the underneath space, while keeping cornerbacks on their toes.
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This play is essentially a deeper version of a basic curl/shoot combination with a play action fake. The fake held the inside backer and rotating strong safety while the shoot route pulled the flat defender away from Robert Woods, who ran the curl. Goff made a good read and fired a bullet to Woods.
Other solutions
The solutions that McVay has shown so far have worked, but they haven’t discouraged teams from getting out of the front. Though the Rams can theoretically stay in their base offense if they execute better, the numbers have shown with a growing sample size that the Rams are struggling to score against this front. Another solution is to use more spread out formations and find ways to run their base concepts from those formations. The Rams did spread out on early downs in a few instances in the last couple of weeks but not nearly enough in my opinion. They could even start in a condensed formation and quickly shift out of it to force defenses to communicate and adjust quickly.
I’m sure McVay has more tricks up his sleeve to counter the 6-1 that he hasn’t unveiled yet and there is also the question of whether the Rams are just struggling because they had to replace key interior offensive linemen like guard Rodger Saffold or because they’ve faced some tough defenses. But at the end of they day, the numbers demonstrate that they haven’t been nearly as explosive or efficient as they were since Week 14 last season in Chicago when Fangio first unveiled the 6-1. Right now, the narrative is that the blue print is out on how to limit the Rams offense and it’ll be up to McVay to change it.
znModeratorRams center Brian Allen (year 2) is playing some really good football and has a bright future.
– Excellent competitive toughness
– Very good use of leverage (pad level + hands)
*Heavyweight state champ wrestler in HS
– Good play strength pic.twitter.com/DIw9RWSduh— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) September 26, 2019
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— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) September 25, 2019
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2020 Compensatory Picks Projection Update (9/25/2019)
LAR 3rd Round Rodger Saffold $11,000,000
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
Jachai Polite, who was signed to Rams practice squad: “Fresh start for sure… You got to try to change for the better.”Me, @huddle.com
We’ll see.
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams coach Sean McVay on Tyler Higbee and Austin Blythe, while prefacing it with nothing is guaranteed, but hopeful and optimistic both will be able to go.Gary Klein@LATimesklein
Rams TE Tyler Higbee said he spit up blood after he landed on his back vs. Saints. “Didn’t really feel nothing crazy,” he said. Stayed in game and caught a pass and then told trainers he needed to be checked out. “Thought I was coming back for the fourth quarter.”Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams center Brian Allen to me a little while ago: “We’re not a 3-0 team that’s satisfied….We might be the only 3-0 team in the NFL that’s not happy being 3-0 right now. But at the same time, we’re 3-0” (Which actually makes total sense)
znModeratorLil sneak peak @ my new show. W guests like Michael Rubin, Action Bronson, Kirstie Ennis, Dj Premier, Miles Teller, Big Cat + more, it won’t just be 🏈. But episode 1 is loaded w it. I had a lengthy convo w the reigning DPOY, former teammate Aaron Donald. #FishBowl #Oct19 pic.twitter.com/bOzDZd0Wth
— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) September 25, 2019
September 25, 2019 at 8:16 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #105676
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Aaron Donald was almost unblockable on SNF in Cleveland in Week 3! 😤😤 pic.twitter.com/zkpXr0NBCx
— PFF (@PFF) September 25, 2019
September 25, 2019 at 7:57 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #105674
znModeratorImagine having a HC that literally can think of doing things that haven’t been done before. @chiefs HC Andy Reid continues to push the “innovative” aspect of offensive football and @patrickmahomes is a globe-trotter👀 @arrowheadpride @chiefsreporter @kingdomchiefs @espnnfllive pic.twitter.com/5agWVYcxmr
— Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) September 25, 2019
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
I’ll be writing about the #Rams slow starts offensively this week, along with some feedback from players. But in fleshing things out some interesting things pop up:The Gurley part keeps with a theme I heard often during the offseason. There was a feel that – in retrospect – there was some overuse of Gurley the last couple years and some late-season ramifications to that overuse
And as a result of that, they felt they could hopefully minimize the late-season issue by slowing him down earlier in the season. And it seems part of that plan might be to manage his use earlier in games.
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
#LARams passing game coordinator Shane Waldron on whether the young OL has had an impact on how the offense has performed so far:“I think it’s everybody. I don’t think it’s youth of an offensive line or anyone at different spots or who’s getting in.”
“It’s the great game of football, where it’s all 11 that have to be great every play. If everyone just does a little bit better, a lot of the issues are solved.”
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
What can Sean McVay do to get Todd Gurley going?McVay: “I think we’ve got to have more plays. Being efficient on those early downs and being able to sustain drives. The more plays we get, the better it is for everybody.”
The Rams rank 9th in snap count at 197.
No Checkdowns@NoCheckdowns
QBs* Suffering Most Frequently from Receiver Drops Thru Wk 3:1. Dak Prescott 10.9%
2. Carson Wentz 9.7%
T-3. Jared Goff 9.3%
T-3. Kirk Cousins 9.3%
5. Jacoby Brissett 8.0%*Min. 3 Starts
znModeratorRobert Quinn was 1 of 4 edge defenders to earn an elite pass-rush grade in Week 3 (90.0).
He was a HUGE reason why Dallas' D-Line was one of @PFF's highest-graded units last week: https://t.co/4nr6vqGwDC
Speed kills. pic.twitter.com/maf8YRqbPP
— Connor Price (@PFF_ConnorPrice) September 25, 2019
znModeratorCarmen Vitali@CarmieV
DT Ndamukong Suh said the atmosphere in LA is good and he’s looking forward to going against his former team.
znModeratorMichael Brockers is all the way back. Was amazing in week 3, and off to a great start this season pic.twitter.com/8mSmuNlA9n
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) September 25, 2019
September 25, 2019 at 1:27 pm in reply to: around the league (+ some college) tweets… 9/23 thru ? #105652
znModeratorAndrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
Russell Wilson vs Kyler Murray will be the first @NFL matchup of QB under 6’ tall in 49 years. Bob Berry’s Falcons defeated Edd Hargett’s Saints 32-14, Week 6 1970.
znModeratorWhen the Rams let Ndamukong Suh walk, they put a loooot of faith in Michael Brockers. Turns out they were right. Brock's been fantastic this year IMO. Makes this play with a pressure, forces Mayfield out where Fowler continues it. pic.twitter.com/BMHfYXCipu
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) September 25, 2019
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
The Rams have signed LB Jachai Polite to their practice squad, the team announced.Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
Third-round pick of the Jets this season who got cut at the end of preseason. Then spent three weeks on Seahawks’ practice squad before being released Monday.Los Angeles Rams UK@LARams_UK
A talented player that seems to have character issues.Surprised that he’s been signed as it’s not very “We Not Me”, but it’s a potential low risk/high reward move.
A 3rd round pick this year. Been cut by the Jets and Seahawks already.
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My new unfounded theory is that there are like 4 above average play designers in the NFL. The real difference between guys is situational playcalling.James Byrnes@Byrnes_88
Who are the 4 and 4 besides Reid and kitchensSeth Galina@SethGalina
I like Reid and McVay and Shanahan. Sean Payton is going to be put to the test the next few weeksIf you’re an OC/Play caller in the NFL, you can design a concept. That’s not hard. Andy Reid is an example of being elite in both categories and you see how amazing his offense has been recently
znModeratorMy sources tell me Aaron Donald might be alright at this football thing pic.twitter.com/qPsLdVl56C
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) September 25, 2019
September 25, 2019 at 9:03 am in reply to: week 4 power rankings & playoff odds & stuff like that #105637
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znModeratorSomethin i read in “Part Of Our Lives: A people’s history of libraries”
“…America published one novel between 1770 and 1779, twenty-five between 1800 and 1809, 128 between 1820 and 1829 and 765 between 1840 and 1849. These numbers continued to perplex cultural authorities. ‘A great obstacle to good education is the inordinate passion prevalent for novels,’ argued Thomas Jefferson in 1818. ‘When this poison infects the mind, it destroys it’s tone and revolts it against wholesome reading.’ …authorities addressed this ‘problem’ in different ways….”
As always it depended on what the novel WAS. The dates in question here basically means the novel at that point was the gothic.
People have always condemned new media. Especially when it’s a popular medium. Remember when tv was irredeemably bad, an inherent brain waster that discouraged people from using their minds. That was of course before The Wire etc. Before that it was the novel. Before that it was print. Plato condemned writing (yes, written language, he spoke out against written language) for much the same reasons people used to condemn tv.
znModeratorRams Head Coach Sean McVay – September 23, 2019
(On the status of OL Austin Blythe and TE Tyler Higbee and how their status influences their practice plan for the upcoming week)
“They’re both (OL Austin Blythe and TE Tyler Higbee) making good progress. They’ll still be day-to-day, but the anticipation, the hope is that they’ll be able to play this week.”(On how close he was to activating T Bobby Evans ahead of Sunday’s game)
“It was really more along the lines of, because (OL) Austin (Blythe) also fills the backup center role, just looking for more of an interior presence. (T) Bobby (Evans) is a guy that’s continued to do a good job and, really, (OL) Jamil (Demby) did a nice job stepping up in Austin’s absence. Those are things that we’ll continue to look at and hopefully we’ll get Austin back and kind of be able to go back to what was our consistent seven (active offensive linemen) that we had in those first couple weeks. But, those are things that we’re always looking at.”(On if there are injuries to report following Sunday night’s game)
“No, we came away pretty clean. Nothing different than the typical bumps and bruises, but guys are feeling good.”(On if he feels the team is ‘winning ugly’)
“I think a win is a win. I think there’s some things when you look at yesterday’s game, you never take for granted a win. Credit for the Browns – they did a great job of making things difficult. I think there were some things, really, that we look at that we think we can expect to execute at a higher level on, specific to offense. There’s some decisions that I certainly can do a much better job with, but I think the confidence, the expectations and the standards that we have for the caliber of players that we have playing, we think that we can do some things a little bit better. Those are things that you always feel week in and week out, but it is about getting the win and we’ll take that.”(On if he believes the blame falls upon the playcalling to get RB Todd Gurley II going)
“Oh yeah. I think a lot of it starts with, ‘Are we putting our players in positions to be successful based on what the play selection is?’ Certainly, the players will make you right in a lot of instances, but I think our job as coaches – and specifically my job – is to make sure that with some of the play selections that you’re activating, ‘Do these give you premiere answers to some of the looks that you’re seeing?’ Those are things that you always look at yourself and make sure that you’re doing as good a job as you can. This is a players game – they do an outstanding job – but, we feel like we have a role and I feel responsible for trying to do the best I can to help put the guys in those consistently, hopefully good spots.”(On Demby, T Joseph Noteboom, and C Brian Allen’s progress over the first couple of weeks)
“I think really, being able to evaluate (C) Brian (Allen) over the first three weeks as a center, I think he’s done a nice job with the communication. Especially, when you look at two road atmospheres of our first three games, where we are in the absence of a lot of our verbal communications. For a first year starting center, I’ve been really pleased with him. I think (T) Joe (Noteboom) has made steady progress, and I think (OL) Jamil (Demby) really getting his first action against the Saints last year, stepping in, in a big way when (OL) Austin (Blythe) went down. I thought he did some good things yesterday, and there were certainly some things he will learn from, but I did like the way that he responded from some of those setbacks. He didn’t let that affect his ability to move forward and that’s what we always talk about. I think a lot of positive things from three young linemen that have gotten a lot of experience in these first three weeks of the season.”(On things the team can get better at offensively)
“There is a lot of things, you really have to go by each play. There are so many little nuances that occur within the framework of, is it third-downs, is it some of the red zone, is it some of our normal down-and-distances, and It’s not exclusive to one spot. Like I said, there is a lot of situations that, when you look at yourself as a coach you say ‘Alright, these are things that I have to make better decisions,’ have a better feel for the flow of the game, get things communicated to our players, so there is clarity on their part of what to expect or what kind of intent the call is. There are so many different ways that I could go with that, but I think ultimately, it’s about everybody doing a little bit better, playing to the best of their ability, and then me and our coaches doing a good job of putting guys in better spots.”(On if there is a pattern to some of the things he is seeing overall on offense)
“There’s really not, it’s just different things that lead to, alright, some opportunities that we had to be able to create some explosives, make some conversions on some third downs. Then there were some instances, like I said, where really some of the play selections did give us much of a chance. It’s a situation where there is a lot of things that we feel like are very fixable and that’s why we’re excited to move forward and see if we can do that this week.”(On if he has Gurley II on load management)
“No, we’re not doing anything like that. It’s more along the lines of each week presents a different approach. It’s kind of the feel the flow of the game. We want to get (RB) Todd (Gurley II) involved. I like to do better about being able to give him a chance to really get more into a rhythm than what I I’ve enabled him to do in these first three games. Then you also want to be able to give (RB) Malcolm (Brown) some of his snaps. I think it’s worked out good in terms of the balance, but like I said, I think there is some things you’d like to do a lot better job of giving Todd an opportunity to really get going. Yesterday, I didn’t really represent that chance for him.”(On how much the passing game has changed from last season)
“It’s really just kind of been some of those things, just the way that the game has kind of evolved and unfolded. Really, those are things that we always try to look at week in and week out.”(On how WR Cooper Kupp has played very well for two games in a row)
“He was outstanding. When you look at it, gets targeted 12 times, has 11 catches. Thought his two touchdowns were timely. He had another catch really in that high-red area before he ended up having the 11-yard touchdown where he crosses face. He and (QB) Jared (Goff) have a good rapport. He made big plays snap in and snap out last night. He’s been clutch for us, it’s been great having him back.”(On what was going on in the play when Kupp was signaling across the line pre-snap)
“He has got elite awareness. We were in a situation where there was some communication where we got a little bit mixed up on what personnel grouping we were in. Guys were aligned in some different spots and Cooper was able to recognize that (WR) Brandin (Cooks) was not covering up the tackle to get into a legal formation from the opposite side of the formation. On a third down and five, he’s signaling with urgency to get Brandin on the line of scrimmage. We just get the play snapped off on a third-and-five and he catches the screen and converts. That play right there, I didn’t realize they had pointed it out, but when we watched it on the tape, that epitomizes one of the many things that’s special about just his overall awareness, how smart he is and then he’s obviously a great player with the athleticism to match.”(On if Kupp has a role of being a second quarterback on the field)
“I think the players would be able to tell you better than I could, just because so much communication goes on in the absence of coaches interaction when we’re on the sidelines. When you just watch and you see the way that he approaches it week in and week out, he does approach it like quarterback. He wants to understand the big picture, I mean he wants to know what’s going on. He’s thinking of different ways that we can do certain schemes or try to attack different defensive structures. He’s a special player, he’s one of those guys that makes you accountable as a coach because he’s going to have things well thought out and you better have the answers for him. If not, you say, ‘That’s probably a pretty good idea maybe we should think about doing that.’”(On how he would evaluate QB Jared Goff’s start of the season)
“He’s had some really good moments and I think there’s some situations that really, a lot of it starts with some of the selections and some of the spots that I put him in. Ultimately, the goal is to win games and for us to be 3-0, I think what says as much about him as anything is that we expect to be more consistent throughout the course of the game, start a little bit faster. The fact that he’s been unphased, he’s had the chance to really be instrumental in a lot of touchdown drives. When you look at the two that we did have in the second half yesterday, I thought he did a great job of making some key third-down conversions. Where guys are pressuring him, there’s three guys in his face, he sits in there, he speeds it up and he’s able to deliver accurate balls and keep his eyes down the field. I think he’s shown why he’ a special player and I think like anything else, there’s always going to be some things that we look at that we can improve. I’m excited to do that with him.”
(On S John Johnson III and S Eric Weddle’s chemistry)
“I think two really smart players that have a great feel for the game. I think they enjoy each other off the field. Some of those things can’t be underestimated. Just the importance of the rapport, the camaraderie, being able to compete with one another. I think guys that have a similar skillset, I think when you look at (S) Eric’s (Weddle) experience and the amount of different things that he’s seen and then watching the way that he and (S) John (Johnson III) have ended up kind of connected. I think they have both raised each other’s level of play. You’ve seen it rub off on (S) Taylor Rapp and really both those two have been instrumental in a lot of the success we have had early on in this season on defense.”(On Johnson’s interception)
“I think it was a big moment in the season up to this point, no doubt about it. There’s a lot of games left to be had, but I thought really for our defense to be able to have four shots from the 4-yard line to stand up, make plays, especially when you look at the personnel, the ability for (Browns QB) Baker (Mayfield) to create off-schedule, some of the guys they have on the perimeter. It was outstanding, I thought that four-play sequence was indicative of the type of night it was. Just finding a way to get it done, remaining mentally tough and executing in crunch time and that’s what our guys did.”(On his defense going up against Browns WR Odell Beckham Jr. and what goes into preparing to face dangerous receivers like Beckham)
“I think it’s collaborative effort. I think it starts with the coaches being able to put together a good gameplan that’s conducive for trying to limit some of those explosive playmakers. I’ve been really impressed with just their ability to execute because they do a good job of moving (Browns WR) Odell (Beckham Jr.) around a little bit. It’s not exclusively like he’s at one spot. So based on some of the different things that we had, there were some times that we ended up having high and low help on him, but we were always aware of where he was. With the type of playmaker that he is, he can score at any moment and I thought our guys did a great job at executing the gameplan. (Defensive Coordinator) Wade (Phillips) and our defensive coaches putting together a plan that was conducive for trying to limit the effect that a great player like Odell can have on the game.”
znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
#LARams RBs Malcolm Brown (6th) and Todd Gurley (8th) both rank in the Top 10 among all NFL running backs with at least 20 rushing attempts in #PFF Rushing Grades through 3 weeks!J.B. Long@JB_Long
Not in defense of the #LARams offensive line, but only for context.Updated PFF OL Rankings:
LA #10
SF #17
SEA #23
ARI #30Can they be better than they have been through 3 weeks? Yes. Has it been as dire as it’s felt at times? No.
Rams Wire@TheRamsWire
Rams open as big favorites over Buccaneers in Week 4. According to BetMGM, Los Angeles is favored by nine points over the Bucs.Sosa K@QBsMVP
Don’t look now, but Wade Phillips has assembled himself a gang that’s highly improved from 2018 and is currently BALLIN:Rushing yards per game: 93 (11th)
Rushing yards per attempt: 4.2 (16th)
Passing yards per game: 192.7 (4th)
Passing yards per attempt: 5.3 (4th)Because there's been a good bit of interest in our conversation last night about the 6-1 fronts the #LARams have been seeing a lot of, here's the Q&A. Appreciate Sean McVay's willingness to give us some context — understanding he can't (and shouldn't) — go into specifics. pic.twitter.com/2kNTLmCJ7k
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) September 24, 2019
September 24, 2019 at 8:05 pm in reply to: week 4 power rankings & playoff odds & stuff like that #105626
znModerator2019 NFL power rankings, Week 4
https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/9/24/20872474/2019-nfl-power-rankings-week-4-los-angeles-rams
ESPN: 3rd (3rd)
What we got wrong: That the offense would seamlessly pick up where it left off last season (before it came to a halt in Super Bowl LIII, of course).
The offense sputtered in the first half of wins over the Panthers, Saints and Browns and twice this season has failed to score a first-half touchdown. That happened only once in the regular season in 2018. The Rams have not consistently established the run behind an offensive line with two first-year starters, and quarterback Jared Goff has been unable to establish consistent connections with receivers early in games. The Rams rank eighth in the league in scoring, averaging 25.7 points per game, but nevertheless are 3-0.
NFL: 3rd (3rd)
A great performance by the Rams’ defense on Sunday night in Cleveland. The high moment came in the final minute, with L.A. leading by seven and the Browns set up with first-and-goal. Four plays, four passes, three incompletions and a game-icing interception by John Johnson. Browns superstar Odell Beckham Jr. didn’t even have a target on that final set of downs, which is both a credit to the Rams’ scheme and an indictment of Browns play-caller Freddie Kitchens. On the other side of the ball, Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp both went over 100 yards, but it was another mostly uneven performance by the Rams. Jared Goff, in particular, continues to look out of sorts. He had three turnovers in the game, including a killer fourth-quarter interception that gave the Browns life. The Rams aren’t fully clicking … but they’re winning as they figure it out. It’s the sign of a championship-caliber team.
CBS: 4th (4th)
They are cruising along with a 3-0 record as they have the look of a potential Super Bowl team again. The defense is even better than a year ago.
Pro Football Talk: 5th (5th)
They’ve helped cure that Super Bowl hangover with some hair of the Dawg.
USA Today: 6th (6th)
Aaron Donald got a sack Sunday but remains a notoriously slow starter. He needs another for just his third multi-sack September of career.
SI’s MMQB: 3rd (3rd)
While the Rams’ offense isn’t blowing the bloody doors off, the D is proving to be one of the league’s toughest. Eric Weddle and Clay Matthews have been valuable additions.
The Athletic: 3rd (3rd)
No drop for the Rams after three weeks, as they still easily look like one of the best teams in the NFC. While their offense might not look as unstoppable as it did in stretches of 2018, you can’t question the first three wins: at Carolina, versus New Orleans and at Cleveland, in prime time. It was also good to see Aaron Donald get on the board with his first sack of 2019. We’re sure at least a dozen more are to come.
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17. Jared Goff, Los Angeles Rams
Despite the 3-0 start for the Rams, it hasn’t been smooth sailing for Goff, who has faced a much higher pressure rate than he did last year, and his decision-making has suffered. He’s tied for the sixth-highest percentage of turnover-worthy plays as there have been far too many passes thrown into the leverage of defenders. Outside of a beautiful, 50-plus-yard throw to Brandin Cooks in Week 2, the big-time throws have been hard to come by for Goff, as he’s ranked just 30th in the league in that department.
znModeratorAt the very least, wouldn’t you say his body-language shows a bit of frustration?
Maybe, but just personally, I honestly don’t think it means anything.
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