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znModeratorFourth consecutive carry—another 9 for Malcolm Brown pic.twitter.com/vuhR0Pqai9
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) October 14, 2019
znModeratorNice work on split zone by the Rams to open the game. pic.twitter.com/akjcxGSF8l
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) October 14, 2019
October 14, 2019 at 8:26 am in reply to: so what happened to the 2019 Rams (so far ie at 3-3) #106634
znModeratorOne thing that really pisses me off is I just read that the Rams have had a total of one actual practice in the last two weeks!
That’s true. However the main reason was the winds and other weather things associated with the fire.
BTW that came up in the chat. Some were saying look at how they played after 10 days off, and I was trying to point out that they didn’t practice.
znModeratorAs frustrated as I am…And I’m very frustrated. Here are last year’s playoff team’s records…#Patriots 6-0#Saints 5-1#Seahawks 5-1#Texans 4-2#Chiefs 4-2#Ravens 4-2#Colts 3-2 #Bears 3-2#Rams 3-3#Cowboys 3-3#Eagles 3-3#Chargers 2-4
…it’s a long season
— DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR] (@DowntownRams) October 14, 2019
October 14, 2019 at 1:30 am in reply to: so what happened to the 2019 Rams (so far ie at 3-3) #106631
znModerator‘We’re not panicking … but … this is serious’ — The 3-3 Rams have slipped far and fast
Vincent Bonsignore
LOS ANGELES — It took Eric Weddle 20 seconds or so to find the appropriate words. The pause, the reflection, the determination to get the wording exactly right pretty much served as a microcosm for the Rams right now.
The reigning NFC champions and two-time defending NFC West champs find themselves in the most peculiar of places after Sunday’s demoralizing 20-7 loss to the San Francisco 49ers. It’s a position no one could have foreseen at the start of the season, given the talent level, star power and mesmerizing recent success that vaulted the Rams so high into the NFL stratosphere. It was easy to assume a long and suspended stay.
But that was then, and this is now. And the two points in time could not be more different.
The Rams’ defeat to their bitter Northern California rivals at the Coliseum — in front of a decidedly deep and loud sea of red and gold 49ers fans, mind you — continued a plummet back to earth that was shocking both in its suddenness and perplexing in its comprehension.
The Rams have lost three straight games for the first time under coach Sean McVay and, in the process, have dramatically lost their footing in the division they’ve owned the last two years. They inexplicably find themselves looking up at both the undefeated 49ers and the one-loss Seattle Seahawks.
That’s problem No. 1.
Problem No. 2 is, the three setbacks have been so unique that it leaves us at a loss to determine any singular (or even general) point of culpability. One week it’s the offense. The next it’s the defense. One quarter, the offensive line is getting bullied and pummeled. The next it’s the secondary getting burned for big plays. One play, Jared Goff looks like a Pro Bowler. The next he’s throwing over the head of a wide-open target. In one sequence, McVay is running circles around the opposing defensive coordinator. The next it’s as if his mastery and command of in-game adjustments are no longer available. In one period, the Rams are avoiding injuries. The next they are down their starting running back, left guard, outside linebacker and cornerback.
In the dizzying confusion, the Rams have only each other to lean on.
“We’ve got mentally tough people in our building,” McVay said. “This is a real opportunity to be what we say we are. We’re just going to go to work, we’re going to stay together, we’re not going to let the outside and influences create a divide with us. That’s something that I trust that we will do and we’re going to work as hard as possible just to continue to be solution-oriented and that’s all I know how to do.”
Of course, McVay’s been repeating the same thing for three straight weeks.
To no avail.
And just as Weddle was grasping for the proper words in a quiet and sullen locker room, the Rams are searching for the exact cause of their problems and, more importantly, the immediate and powerful remedy they so desperately need.
“It is … what’s the word?” Weddle began cautiously. “We’re not gonna … we’re not gonna, uh, yeah.”
Finally, he just left fly.
“We’re not panicking … but … this is serious. If that makes sense,” Weddle said. “Like, yeah, it’s … it’s … we can’t. We gotta figure it out. All of us.”
And given the speed with which the NFL rolls, the need to locate the antidote is incredibly urgent. That could include playing more consistently or efficiently, coming up with adjustments for the rapidly changing defensive game plans they are encountering, or incorporating new players into the fold (or replacing injured starters) while adapting to their replacements.
All of this is unfamiliar territory for these Rams, who flew through the last two seasons on an almost magical carpet ride, one in which injuries were generally avoided, the wins piled up, the statistics were staggering, the awards were aplenty and the success breathtaking.
But in one fell swoop, the Rams have been dealt a level of adversity that is almost foreign to them. And with time already slipping away, they have to find answers.
Like right now.
“And that’s the truth,” Rams left tackle Andrew Whitworth said. “You do everything you can all throughout the week to try. Then, when you have an injury somewhere else, it flips that spot and all those types of things. That’s the league, and it’s always been that way. Right now, we’re in that little hole trying to figure out how to overcome those things. That’s something, honestly, that this team hasn’t done in the last couple years. We haven’t really had that.”
The Rams got off to an ideal start on Sunday by running the ball seven straight times down the 49ers’ throats. They engineered a spectacular touchdown drive as Malcolm Brown filled in for an injured Todd Gurley and their offensive line gouged holes in the 49ers’ defensive front.
“I thought the guys came out ready to go,” McVay said. “To be able to have a seven-play drive, seven runs all manageable down-and-distances, there was a good enthusiasm, there was a good juice. That was the way that you wanted to start.”
For the briefest of moments, it left their fans wistfully believing all was right in their world again.
But in the blink of an eye, it all vanished. It started with a would-be touchdown drive that at the worst-possible place — right at the cusp of the 49ers’ end zone — when the Rams could not punch it in from one yard out with just over three minutes left in the second quarter. Instead of going up 14-7, the Rams walked off the field demoralized. It was basically the last we’d here from their offense the rest of the game.
The Rams rushed for 107 yards at halftime but totaled just seven in the second half. Jared Goff completed 13 of 24 passes for a measly 78 yards. He was sacked four times. The Rams were 0-for-9 on third downs and 0-for-4 on fourth downs.
And while the Rams’ defense came up with a goal-line stand to turn the 49ers away, then later a strip-sack fumble to set up the offense at the San Francisco 36-yard line in the fourth quarter and the game still within reach, the offense was helpless to take advantage.
The offense’s ineptitude, which included a slew of sloppy penalties on top of an incredible amount of inefficiency, put the defense in a hole. The result was the 13 second-half points the Rams surrendered — seven of which were gift-wrapped by rookie Darrell Henderson when he couldn’t secure a pitch and fumbled on the first play of the second half.
That gave the 49ers the ball on the Rams’ 17-yard line. Four plays later, San Francisco took a 14-7 lead on Jimmy Garoppolo’s 1-yard run.
From that point, it was a game in name only. With the Rams’ offense essentially AWOL — even when given favorable field position and opportunities by their defense — the second half seemed almost moot.
It wasn’t a matter of how the Rams would squander their chances, only how. And by whom.
And it left them grasping for answers afterward.
“I think that’s part of what makes us professionals,” guard Austin Blythe said, “is being able to identify those problems and find answers to them and implement them as fast as we can. But you know what, we’re still a good football team and the answers are in this room. We’ve got great players at every position, great people. Hard workers. There’s no question we’ll come out of this.”
“It’s a gut check,” Goff said. “Are you who you say you are? I know this team is – I know these players are – I know these coaches are. We’ve got so much faith and belief in Sean and everyone else. We’re going to get right back on track. We’re going to do it, and, again, it takes a few plays here and there. We’ve seen it, we’ve done it, we’ve watched it on film, we know what we’re doing. We just need to be consistent with it and, play in and play out, stay focused and don’t let the little things slide.”
It’s not time to panic. But as Weddle said, this is getting serious.
znModeratorRams find themselves in an unfamiliar spot after loss to unbeaten San Francisco
Joe Curley
LOS ANGELES — It’s not a crisis just yet.
But keep that panic button within arm’s reach.
Sean McVay will wake up Monday morning with the type of problem he has yet to face as Los Angeles Rams head coach.
After being physically dominated by undefeated San Francisco on Sunday afternoon at the Coliseum, the Rams (3-3) are mired in their first three-game losing streak under McVay.
“Was it a humbling day for us?,” McVay asked. “Absolutely. But it’s something that we’re going to learn from. We’re not going to let it demoralize us.”
More importantly, they sit in third place in the NFC West, a division the Rams have dominated since McVay was plucked from Washington to replace Jeff Fisher.
“There’s nothing we can do about this performance, other than learn from it,” McVay said. “That’s all I know how to do.”
Los Angeles went wire to wire to win the NFC West in McVay’s first two season as head coach. The first time it looked up in the division standings under McVay was after the wild Week 4 loss to Tampa Bay, 36 games into his tenure.
And now, after the first three-game losing streak under McVay, the 3-3 Rams are starting to lose touch with the 5-0 San Francisco and 5-1 Seattle, who both own valuable head-to-head wins.
“It’s a gut check,” said quarterback Jared Goff, after San Francisco held him to a career-low 78 yards passing. “Are you who you say you are?
“I know who this team is. I know who these players are. I know who our coaches are. We have so much faith and belief in Sean and everyone else. We’re going to get right back on track.
After driving the length of the field on seven running plays on the opening possession, taking a 7-0 lead on Robert Woods’ 8-yard end around, they managed just 101 yards of total offense over the final 51 minutes of play.
“We came out ready to go,” McVay said. “To be able to have a seven play drive, seven runs, all in manageable down and distances, there was a good enthusiasm. There was a good juice.
“That was the way that you wanted to start. We have to do a better job after that of being able to continue that momentum.”
San Francisco tied the game on Tevin Coleman’s 2-yard run in the first quarter and took control after a fumble by Rams rookie running back Darrell Henderson on the first play of the second half.
Jimmy Garappolo’s 1-yard sneak on third and goal and two Robbie Gould field goals were enough for the 49ers to improve to 5-0 for the first time since 1990.
The Rams were left to kick themselves for missed opportunities, like running back Malcolm Brown being stopped on fourth and goal from the San Francisco 1 in the second quarter and a pair of turnover on downs in the fourth quarter.
“The reality is NFL football games come down to little, tiny plays here or there throughout game,” veteran tackle Andrew Whitworth said. “In the year before or even in 2017, we found a way to execute those little moments and get the momentum back, or make a big play that got us in the game or to take a lead and get control of the game.
“Right now, we’re just missing those plays. And when you do, it all just kind of piles on you.”
That has started up front, where the Rams have been unable to solve an offseason transition on the offensive line, in which second-year center Brian Allen and second-year guard Joe Noteboom replaced the departed John Sullivan and Rodger Safford, respectively.
To make things worse, Noteboom suffered a potential serious leg injury in the first half on Sunday and was replaced by another second-year lineman, Jamil Demby.
Certainly, offensive line coach Aaron Kromer didn’t expect any of the three young players to be the finished article, but their rough edges have shown.
The Rams entered Week 6 ranked No. 31 in the league in both pass blocking and run blocking, according to Pro Football Focus.
“Really it’s just figuring it out,” McVay said. “Let’s figure out the best way to maximize guys’ skill sets. That’s a very vital part of football.
“Football’s the greatest team sport there is and we’ll continue try to develop guys. That’s the only way that we can move forward.”
One of the healthiest teams in the league the past two seasons, the Rams have also been hit with a spate of injuries. They were without running back Todd Gurley (quadriceps), linebacker Clay Matthews III (broken jaw) and cornerback Aqib Talib (ribs) on Sunday.
“The reality is, in the NFL… the healthiest teams are usually the best ones,” Whitworth said. “We’re dealing with that a little bit. You know what, there’s no excuses. You find a way to help each other out, coach each other up and go to the drawing board and find a way to win. That’s what we have to do.”
However the defending NFC Champions have reached mediocrity, that’s where they find themselves this week, .500 for the first time since the second week of the 2017 season.
“Three losses in a row,” Brown said. “It’s a little adversity for us. But, as a team, we preach about adversity, getting over it and sticking together as a family. We’re definitely going to get back to that.”
And they won’t see the Coliseum again for a month.
They make road trips to Atlanta, London (for a home game against Cincinnati) and Pittsburgh before hosting Chicago at the Coliseum on Nov. 17.
So, for the Rams, things are unlikely to get easier, before they get better.
“I trust that this is a mentally tough team,” McVay said. “We’ve got mentally tough people in our building. This is a real opportunity to be what we say we are.
“We’re just going to go to work. We’re going to stay together. We’re not going to let the outside influences create a divide within us. That’s something that I trust we will do.”
znModerator4 takeaways from the Rams' dreadful loss to 49ers https://t.co/XPfOhvMlKY via @theramswire
— RamsNewsNow (@RamsNewsNow) October 14, 2019
znModeratorSosa K@QBsMVP
As bad as the past 3 weeks have seemed for the Rams, they’ll face the Falcons, Bengals, and Steelers the next 3 weeks. Could (should?) be 6-3, though you never know with how they’re playing.Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Coliseum has lots of red seats but…. there were also an overwhelming amount of red jerseys in the stands today. Both LA teams still up against it when it comes to opposing fans in their stadiums.
znModeratorA supermassive black hole shredded a star and was caught in the act
Astronomers have gotten the earliest look yet at a tidal disruption event
shredded star
In this illustration, a star that wanders too close to a black hole (top left) is stretched into a spaghetti-like strand with part of the stellar remains flung into space.
Every so often, a celestial slasher film plays out in the heavens, as a supermassive black hole shreds a star and swallows part of it. Now scientists have gotten a rare, early glimpse of the show.
The episode, described September 26 in the Astrophysical Journal, was first detected by telescopes in January and named ASASSN-19bt. It’s one of only dozens of these phenomena called tidal disruption events that astronomers have observed.
Such an event, when a star passes close enough to a black hole to get sucked in and torn apart, occurs only about once every 100,000 years in any given galaxy, says Suvi Gezari, an astronomer at the University of Maryland in College Park, who was not involved with the work. “This is really exciting,” she says.
The first clues that scientists saw from ASASSN-19bt came from robotic telescopes that had been searching the sky for supernovas, or violent explosions that mark the death of massive stars (SN: 2/18/17). When the telescopes instead caught a bright flare from the event, researchers turned to other instruments to get a better look.
As it happened, that patch of sky was also being watched by NASA’s TESS satellite, which searches the sky for exoplanets (SN: 4/12/18), planets that orbit stars outside of Earth’s solar system. The TESS data, captured every 30 minutes, revealed the stellar material brightening as it began circling the black hole.
“We were able to see exactly when it started to get brighter,” says Thomas Holoien, an astronomer at the Carnegie Observatories in Pasadena, Calif. That’s the earliest observation of a tidal disruption event yet.
The energy emitted by ASASSN-19bt, in a galaxy around 375 million light-years away from Earth, was about 30 billion times the energy of our sun. A typical galaxy contains around a billion or 10 billion stars, “so this was outshining every other star in its galaxy,” Holoien says. If such an event happened in the Milky Way, it would be so bright that it could probably be seen during the day.
As the star was drawn in by the black hole, it was pulled apart by the intense gravity of the black hole until eventually the star was stretched into a long strand of gas. Some of the shredded stellar guts were spit back into space. The rest looped around the black hole, crashing into itself and forming a spiraling ring of glowing, hot gas called an accretion disk.
A star is torn
This video shows what happens when a star strays near a black hole and is shredded into a thin strand of gas, a process known as a tidal disruption event. Included in the video are images of an event named ASASSN-19bt and an animation of this process.
The accretion disk is like “water circling the drain of a bathtub,” says theoretical astrophysicist Nicholas Stone of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Stone was not involved with the work, but collaborates with one of the paper’s authors. “It’s superheated, interstellar gas, but it still behaves like a fluid.”
More early observations of tidal disruption events could help physicists improve estimates of the masses of black holes and how quickly they spin, Stone says.
Such data also could help answer how black holes form, and whether this type of star-shredding activity plays into galaxy evolution, Holoien says. “This star died, but we’re able to use its death to learn about the universe.”
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
#Rams are at the crossroads after a 20-7 loss to the #49ers. You’d like to think the answers are available within. But I’m not so sure about that right now.I don’t think they’ve figured out their new/different life with Todd Gurley, from an offensive operational/playcalling standpoint. The offensive line has not been good.
Arguably the worst performance by the #Rams offensive line since 2016. It was pretty ugly in Chicago last season….but this might be worse
#Rams have had one actual, regular practice over the last two weeks. What that means in the whole scheme of things, I have no idea. But they are playing like a team without any edge, cohesion.
October 13, 2019 at 9:07 pm in reply to: non-Rams NFL tweets + some college FB too … 10/13 thru ? #106620
znModeratorHot off the presses, @DZangaroNBCS and I have a brand-new Eagle Eye podcast from U.S. Bank Stadium.
Among our topics:
🏈Eagles: Bad.
🏈Eagles: Bad.
🏈Eagles: Bad.
🏈Eagles: Bad.
🏈Eagles: Bad.https://t.co/5ANept4agO— Reuben Frank (@RoobNBCS) October 14, 2019
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znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp and Brandin Cooks combined for 7 catches and 35 yards on 13 targets.Goff gave them very few chances today.
TurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
Not sure I’ve seen Rams fans this shook in a long time.It was one game.
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The 49ers held Jared Goff to a career-low 78 passing yards, and San Francisco moved to 5-0 for the first time since 1990: https://t.co/Gou6cgEDON
— USA TODAY NFL (@usatodaynfl) October 14, 2019
October 13, 2019 at 3:51 pm in reply to: non-Rams NFL tweets + some college FB too … 10/13 thru ? #106612
znModeratorBrowns trying their hardest to lose.
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October 13, 2019 at 2:19 pm in reply to: non-Rams NFL tweets + some college FB too … 10/13 thru ? #106610
znModeratorI hate to break the news to you two Seahawks lovers, but Baker Mayfield is outplaying your fantasy man Wilson right now.
20-9 Browns.
Yes it’s the old Seattle issue. OL injuries, and they’re playing a good D-front on the road.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
In his last three games against 49ers, Jared Goff passed for nine touchdowns, with no interceptions. Todd Gurley’s absence from lineup today against resurgent 49ers puts pressure on Goff.SeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
The Rams OL is already facings talk task, if Darrell Henderson isn’t lock solid with his pass protection responsibilities, then I wouldn’t get your hopes up today. There is no way McVay will allow him to get Goff killed against this front.October 13, 2019 at 12:40 pm in reply to: non-Rams NFL tweets + some college FB too … 10/13 thru ? #106604
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_Long
Interesting QB comparison in this early window today:Russell Wilson’s 12 TD passes are the most without an INT through 5 games in NFL history (Elias).
Baker Mayfield’s 8 INTs are the most in 2019, and since his debut last season, no one has thrown more than his 22 picks.
znModeratorbetMGM line: Rams by 3
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2019/10/12/niners-rams-live-stream-how-watch-tv-channel/3934091002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomnfl-topstoriesThe 49ers pass rush showed it’s a force that can alter games, after defensive end Nick Bosa sacked Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield twice and San Francisco sacked Mayfield four times overall. The matchup to watch, though, is the Niners rushing attack versus the Rams rushing defense. San Francisco leads the NFL with 200 rushing yards per game, while L.A. is in the middle of the pack, ranking 15th in rushing yards allowed with 106.8 a game.
Defensively, the Rams’ pass rush has underwhelmed this season after defensive tackle Aaron Donald and company dominated in 2018. Donald has just one sack through five games, and it may be tough for him to add another. Garoppolo ranks second in the NFL in time to throw, getting rid of the ball in an average of 2.45 seconds after the snap.
znModerator#LARams — @gregcosell takes a look at the @RamsNFL route concepts versus zone coverages. Featuring a big time throw from @JaredGoff16 to @CooperKupp! @MattBowen41 | @NFLFilms | @LindseyThiry | #SFvsLAR pic.twitter.com/2sYL4w1NR8
— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) October 13, 2019
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Rams won’t have RB Todd Gurley (quad) today, but there is a chance he’s back next week, source said. Today, Malcolm Brown is expected to be the featured back with rookie Darrell Henderson sprinkling in. It was a rough week for Gurley, 1 of 3 players evacuated for wildfires.Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter
49ers’ TE George Kittle, a late add to the injury report with a groin injury that left him questionable for Sunday, is expected to play against the Rams, per source. But there is some concern about whether he will be able to finish the game.Andrew Siciliano@AndrewSiciliano
It’s a big day in L.A.
We have a 49ers-Rams game that truly means something. It’s been a while. Great perspective from
@LATimesfarmer
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—I like the Bucs over Carolina in the early Game today. In other big games I like Minn over Phil, KC over Houston and the Rams over SF. Let me know if you agree with my picks. pic.twitter.com/1kZl0PfbDD
— Tony Dungy (@TonyDungy) October 13, 2019
znModeratorRich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
This probably will turn into a bad, cold take, but I’m not convinced a full load of Malcolm Brown is worse for the Rams’ offense than a load-managed Gurley. I said on a recent “11 Personnel” podcast that maybe they should just leave Gurley inactive and ride Brown. So, we’ll see!October 12, 2019 at 4:37 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #106593
znModeratorThe Princeton Oligarchy Study found that US public interest had NEAR ZERO effect on legislation.
When we 'win' any change, it's because wealthy interests share the same goal.By definition this means the US is not a democracy. We're an oligarchy: Rule by an elite business class.
— Lee Camp [Redacted] (@LeeCamp) October 12, 2019
October 12, 2019 at 4:20 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #106592
znModeratorI can’t get over this. He’s running 4.5 minute miles for 26.2 miles straight. For reference, if you run on a treadmill, he’s running on speed 13+ for 26 miles. This is beyond comprehension. https://t.co/KzAgwfN7eP
— Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) October 12, 2019
znModeratorI don’t know what the pic is, BT. But it’s not from GOT.
When you check the image location, the title includes game of thrones and battle of the bastards. Might be a mistake. But that’s what they called it.
Well, yeah. That;s what I said.

znModeratorDOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
John Kelly’s promotion confirms that Gurley will be OUT tomorrow. Hurts to see our friend N’Simba get cut. Webster is a likely practice squad add once he clears waivers.
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Todd Gurley is OUT tomorrow against the 49ers, per a Rams spokesperson.
znModeratorI don’t know what the pic is, BT. But it’s not from GOT.
October 12, 2019 at 3:08 pm in reply to: summary of recent events surrounding Ukraine scandal #106577
znModeratora number of career officials are willing to spill what they know about it
That’s what wv and I are talking about.
I don’t think anyone has disagreed with that particular narrow take on it though.
znModeratorNobody here is claiming that everybody in the Deep State is involved in this, or that they all agree. I would think this might be around half a dozen people. Probably fairly high up in the food chain.
Yeah possibly in this case. In which case, we have bureaucratic resistance from entrenched professionals.
Which is par for the course. Happens.
Does that deserve a fancy name? Like Deep State? For one thing that term is meant to name not some actors in one incident, but an ongoing, homogenous, unified entity that is more than the actors in one incident. Both the right and left versions of that term name something big and unitary etc.
If some entrenched professionals got appalled at certain executive actions in one incident, that’s one thing. Condemning that because the CIA played dirty tricks in central america doesn’t strike me as all that relevant.
But none of that is important.
What IS important is that after long last, after months of lying around basking in sleepy indifference, we now have ourselves a real genuine actual BOARD WAR.
That’s what matters.
October 12, 2019 at 1:28 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #106571
znModeratori made $18k one year and had to pay $3,500 in taxes what the fuck are you talking about "people under $50k don't pay taxes" https://t.co/Z0WxzWMsOv
— ghost wife (@eponawest) October 11, 2019
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