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znModeratorRams vs. Bengals: 4 key matchups to watch in Week 8 https://t.co/WxjtEKTgwG
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 24, 2019
znModeratorTravin Howard with the sticky hands (via Rams/IG) pic.twitter.com/cPdpRq93nk
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 24, 2019
znModeratorfrom Rams Pro Football Focus tidbits heading into Week 8
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-pro-football-focus-tidbits-heading-into-week-8
Here’s a look at some of the noteworthy Rams-centric assessments as we approach the halfway point of the 2019 season.
RAPP GETS BIGGER ROLE
The depth chart got shaken up with safety John Johnson III getting put on injured reserve. While his absence created more opportunities for Marqui Christian, rookie Taylor Rapp also saw increased involvement as well.
Per PFF, Rapp played a season-high 54 snaps against the Falcons last week. He was most effective against the run, posting a season-best grade of 68.9 in addition to a season-best 83.6 tackling grade. His 35 snaps in coverage were also most for him in a single game this season.
Before Johnson’s injury, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said Rapp would see time on the field even though he was a backup because Rapp has earned it. It seems that trend will continue.
EDWARDS GRADES OUT WELL IN DEBUT
Making his NFL regular season debut, rookie David Edwards held his own in his first career start.
According to Voice of the Rams J.B. Long, Edwards’ overall offensive grade of 60.9 was highest by a Rams left guard this season. Second-year offensive lineman began the year as the starter before suffering a season-ending ACL and MCL injury against the 49ers in Week 6, with Jamil Demby also seeing action at that spot.
Edwards is off to a promising start, and he’ll likely have a chance to build on it this week against the Bengals.
FOWLER HAS BEST GAME OF SEASON
Considering how he fared statistically against the Falcons, it likely comes as no surprise that Dante Fowler Jr.’s performance graded out as his best of the season in three key categories.
The former Florida standout posted a 90.9 pass rushing grade, a 90.6 overall defensive grade and a 76.6 run defense grade – all season highs – following his first three-sack game of his career. He also added three tackles for loss and a forced fumble.
Looks like his first game reunited with CB Jalen Ramsey made a big difference.
znModeratorI think evans is strictly a guard in the nfl….i see both edwards and noteboom as OTs.
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znModeratorAnother excerpt from E1 of The Fish Bowl on @ChalkNetwork …. Inside the mind of a football machine …. @AaronDonald97 and the @RamsNFL looking to get to 5-3 this weekend. I’m calling 3 sacks for AD. #GamedayGamedayGameday ‼️‼️ pic.twitter.com/7pS636hqtt
— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) October 24, 2019
znModeratorOffense has regressed, but improved in the red zone | Rams Wire
https://www.therams.com/news/injury-report-hill-brown-hager-non-participantsMan, this season has been wild. While the offense has been driving Rams fans up the wall, QB Jared Goff and company have been able to get the ball in the end zone when they’ve gotten close. It helps to have RB Todd Gurley II and WR Cooper Kupp! Currently, the Rams are 11th in the NFL, scoring 62.1% of their possessions inside the 20.
znModeratorToday's @RamsNFL Play of the Day:
October 3, 1999 | Week 4 | Rams vs Bengals@AzHakim_81 😱😱😱😱 #GSOT pic.twitter.com/PbL2CZ9vRV
— Daniel Leu (@Leuzer6) October 23, 2019
znModeratorThe Bengals deserve the disaster artist known as Jim Turner
Like it or not, the Bengals’ calamitous 2019 season has been heavily influenced by their infamous offensive line coach.Some of you will hate me for this. I’d imagine most of you already do. I frankly don’t care. Rip me a new one in the comments section. Email me your hate, I could always use a good laugh.
Jim Turner is bad, and he was always bad.
From the minute he was hired as the Bengals’ offensive line coach, Jim Turner was a bad hire. When he was suspended by Texas A&M for being sexist at a football clinic, Jim Turner was bad. When he was fired by the Miami Dolphins for partaking in and allowing “BullyGate”, which ultimately led to a three-year stretch of unemployment, Jim Turner was bad. When he failed to put together a quality line in Miami and similarly failed to develop quality players at Texas A&M when he was first with the program from 2008-2011, Jim Turner was undoubtedly, and undeniably, bad.
None of this mattered for Zac Taylor and the Bengals when they hired him in February, and his reputation has worsened more than it’s been enhanced since then. He was an integral reason why Bobby Hart, one of the worst right tackles in all of football, was not only re-signed, but was also given a notable raise in the process. Signing John Miller in free agency and drafting Jonah Williams seemed to counter this inexcusable decision to some degree, but things would only get worse from there.
Once offseason programs began, offensive lineman started retiring left and right. First it was Clint Boling, who was dealing with a career-threatening blood clot in his system; pretty much and open and shut case to be fair, and no blame could be bestowed upon Turner.
Then the preseason rolls around and Kent Perkins decides to retire. This was when Williams had been injured for over a month and Cincinnati’s tackle depth was getting thin. Why did Perkins leave the team? Obviously he wasn’t fully committed to hanging up the cleats because he was recently drafted by the St. Louis BattleHawks to play in the XFL.
About a week later, Christian Westerman is mysteriously not playing. He decides to retire out of the blue as well. Like Perkins, Westerman later had a change of heart and returned to the team a week later. He was cut soon after that, but the suspicion only grew louder.
Why did two backup lineman, on a team that had maybe three established starters along the offensive line, decide to leave the team only to return to the sport in some way shape or form? A lack of opportunity? In need of a fresh start? A frustration with the new position coach? No reason can be fairly dismissed.
In-between all of this were the signings of John Jerry and Andre Smith, both of whom have had their share of ups and downs this year. Smith coming back for the third time since his initial departure after 2015 is more of an indictment on the front office. But John Jerry? The last time he played any football was in 2017, and even then he wasn’t playing very well. Now he’s the answer to Boling’s retirement?
In fairness, Jerry hasn’t been terrible after spending an entire year on his couch, but even in late June, he was far from the best option the team could’ve turned to when they needed another body. He was signed because of his familiarity with Turner and Taylor, which sounds a lot like Smith and other acquisitions the franchise has made in the past.
Finally, we get to Cordy Glenn.
On Wednesday, Taylor announced that Glenn had been cleared to practice for the first time since he self-reported a concussion two months prior in the middle of the preseason. In his first practice back, the mood shifted from promising to catastrophic.
Glenn and an unnamed coach got into a heated argument—one that nearly turned physical—over the timing of Glenn’s return to the field. Glenn, the man who has been dealing with literal brain damage for several weeks, was being berated by his coach, whom has not been dealing with such ailments, for taking so long to come back to work. Remove the traditional tough-minded football tropes from your mind and realize how ridiculous the coach sounds in that scenario.
The coach and the Bengals appear to be on the same side, as the team fined Glenn $200,000 for conduct detrimental to the team. Essentially, they believe Glenn was biding his time to return and the team felt he was able to come back long before he did. As a response, Glenn reportedly asked to be cut from the team for being pressured to come back earlier than he felt he should.
We’re not pointing fingers here, but we can make an educated guess as to which coach was the one to get into it with Glenn. It wouldn’t be the first time Turner berated one of his players for standing by a personal decision he didn’t agree with.
The situation with Glenn has spiraled out of control and if he ever plays for the Bengals again, it’ll be an absolute miracle. At this point, no one should want Glenn to incur more brain damage for an organization that would treat him like this, whether or not they believe from their own viewpoint he was ready to play again.
And all of this really starts with Taylor. When asked about his offensive line coach that he’s known for years, Taylor stood up for him once more. When asked about Perkins and Westerman leaving the team back in August, he had a response to that as well: “Every issue has been completely separate,” Taylor said. “Every situation has been so unique. None of them I can really talk about. I can’t get into their personal matters.”
Whatever. Taylor’s not going to throw his friend under the bus that easily. He’s been a defender of his shoddy character from day one. Turner’s capability as a coach, however, is something Taylor can’t prop up forever without tangible results to back it up.
Turner is still not good at what he does, and the results this year continue to validate that assessment—which most people subscribed to this offseason anyways.
Bobby Hart remains to be terrible, and it’s not like Turner of all coaches could fix his uninspiring technique. His decision to throw Michael Jordan back out at left guard after he proved he wasn’t ready was as awful as Jordan’s play following the decision. And most of Billy Price’s issues are still plaguing his performance as well.
There’s only so much he can do for Price, Hart and the left tackles he’s working with, but what about Trey Hopkins and Miller? The center and right guard duo have been the unquestionable bright spots along the line, but still can’t seem to communicate with one another in the run game. Second level blocking has been a detriment to the offense all season long, and most of that lies on Hopkins and his guards. Why isn’t their talent being maximized on the field?
Because the only thing Turner has ever proven to maximize is how incompetent of a leader and coach he really is. He’s never managed to make of his units better, he’s rarely been able to elevate anyone’s talent. But he’s always managed to be the center of controversy wherever he goes.
It’s simply poetic that he’s right in the middle of the worst Bengals season in a decade.
October 24, 2019 at 9:29 am in reply to: TV Map week VIII… Rams on Greenwich Mean Time w/ Trent Green.. . #107229
znModeratorsorry I meant week VIII…. damn Roman Numerals….. how did the Republic manage long division during the Empire?
Fixed it.
October 24, 2019 at 2:25 am in reply to: highlights Falcons game … + a lot of Waldman & other play-focus vids #107225
znModeratorEdwards initially gets beat, but watch his feet.
He gets beat and his quick feet allow him to catch up and regain control. After watching plays like this, it makes you wonder how the hell Jamil Demby was starting ahead of him. pic.twitter.com/m3lIbboCGL
— Blaine Grisak💭 (@bgrisakPFN) October 23, 2019
znModeratorWeek 8 PFF Preview
Cincinnati Bengals @ Los Angeles Rams
Players to Watch
There aren’t a lot of positives to highlight when discussing the winless Bengals. According to PFF’s team-level grades available in Premium Stats, Cincinnati ranks 26th in run-blocking grade, 31st in pass-blocking grade and 27th in total offense. Defensively, the team ranks outside the top-20 in defense grade, pass-rush grade and coverage grade.
Surprising no one, Rams’ Aaron Donald leads all defenders with 140 or more pass-rush snaps in PFF pass-rush grade (91.4) through Week 7. Recording 34 total pressures across 225 pass-rush snaps, Donald also ranks third among the same group of qualifiers in pass-rush win rate (23.1%) and 16th in pressure percentage (15.1%).
Fantasy Football Preview
The Rams’ fearsome receiver corps hasn’t been quite so fearsome of late, but tight end Gerald Everett has picked up the slack. Everett is the No. 2 PPR tight end over the last four weeks, sitting third in yards and tied for first in touchdowns in that span. Most importantly, Everett is breaking tackles at a record rate, with his 0.46 forced missed tackles per reception more than double the next-best qualifying tight end (George Kittle, 0.21).
Betting Preview
The second-largest spread in Week 8 has actually dropped slightly from an opening two-touchdown differential. The Bengals are the worst team in the NFL according to our ELO metric and have the fourth-worst offense, as well. With a total out to 48.5, the expectation is that the Rams are not able to make up enough of the difference for Cincinnati’s pathetic offensive output to get over this number.
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znModeratorI’m opposed to context AND nuance.
Just on principle.
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vWhat circumstances led you to this stance?
And could you provide more details? Just to refine your point a bit.
znModeratorPFF ReFocused: Los Angeles Rams 37, Atlanta Falcons 10
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-7-pff-refocused-los-angeles-rams-37-atlanta-falcons-10
LOS ANGELES RAMS
Jared Goff’s accuracy was impressive against the Falcons. He picked them apart methodically, using a mixture of screens, pick routes and intermediate crossers to march the Rams on several long drives. Although Goff narrowly missed a couple of deeper throws, he put up a beauty on a deep touchdown to Todd Gurley to highlight an impressive day. The Rams’ quarterback thrived on play-action, continually keeping the offense ahead of the chains and opening up some running lanes for the Rams’ quality rushing attack.
The Rams’ defense dominated in the trenches, with the standout performer being none other than Aaron Donald. The play of the game came early in the fourth quarter when Donald strip-sacked quarterback Matt Ryan and recovered the fumble in the process. The game was essentially over at that point, and Ryan left the game injured and did not return.
Star cornerback Jalen Ramsey had an up-and-down debut with the team. He made a great play to force a fumble on a Devota Freeman carry in the first half and was solid for the most part in coverage, although he did get beat by Julio Jones on a route that should have ended in a touchdown.
znModeratorPFF Week 8 NFL Power Rankings
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2019-pff-week-8-nfl-power-rankings
7. LOS ANGELES RAMS
Last Week: 8thComing off a 37-10 win over the Atlanta Falcons in Week 7, the Rams move up a spot in our PFFELO rankings and enter Week 8 with the sixth-ranked defense in EPA per play allowed (-0.102). Aaron Donald has been a menace for the Rams so far this season, as he leads all defenders with 140 or more pass-rush snaps in PFF pass-rush grade (91.4). Los Angeles ranks seventh in pressure percentage (39%) through seven weeks of play.
znModeratorLMU93
Rams rankings from analytics sites
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/Football-Power-Index/espn-nfl-football-power-index ESPN FPI: 9th (12th offense, 9th defense)
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff/2019 Football Outsiders: 11th (17th offense, 4th defense)
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/ TeamRankings.com: 5th
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/ Pro-Football-Reference: 7th (6th offense, 14th defense)
October 23, 2019 at 7:55 pm in reply to: tweets + other things (w/ VB Q&A) … 10/21 thru 10/23 #107217
znModeratorAustin Wilson@AUS10SPORTS
Rams were a missed field goal away from being 5-2 with the hardest schedule of any team in the NFL so far. And we haven’t even clicked yet.==
Cooper Kupp – the leader in the clubhouse in yards after the catch after Week 7 pic.twitter.com/LhV3eMkEC6
— PFF (@PFF) October 23, 2019
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The Rams injury report today – none of following players practiced:
RB Malcolm Brown – ankle
LB Bryce Hager – shoulder
CB Troy Hill – hamstring
LB Clay Matthews – jaw
LT Andrew Whitworth – not injury related— Lindsey Thiry (@LindseyThiry) October 23, 2019
October 23, 2019 at 7:23 pm in reply to: highlights Falcons game … + a lot of Waldman & other play-focus vids #107212
znModeratorJust an example of how physical this Hooper vs Christian matchup was. pic.twitter.com/6FRxDVY5ih
— JAKE OLIVER ELLENBOGEN (@JKBogenDTR) October 23, 2019
October 23, 2019 at 2:17 pm in reply to: tweets + other things (w/ VB Q&A) … 10/21 thru 10/23 #107207
znModeratorThese teams have been the best/worst at finishing red zone trips with TDs
Despite regressing in multiple areas, Rams offense has improved in red zone https://t.co/KKuYFuxQHe
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 23, 2019
znModeratormax
I talked to Vinny last night about the OL. He read me the whole riot act about how Blythe was drafted by the Colts, and started a game for them, Rams picked him up, and he was active throughout 2017, and played well when he got starting job last year. So don’t throw Blythe away so easily, the ankle may be the reason he’s not playing well now.
But I asked if he knew anything about Evans stepping up in practice. There have been rumors. He asked McVay about Evans in today’s presser. McVay said Evans is making progress and Kromer is working behind the scenes with him.
So, stay tuned. It’s possible that changes are coming.
znModeratorOctober 23, 2019 at 12:52 pm in reply to: Zone versus Man coverage: Shouldn't the Rams have known about Peters? #107200
znModeratorSnead says they hit the Jaguars up early in the season about Ramsey. Ramsey requested a trade Week 2. My guess is they never had any interest in extending Marcus Peters. But that begs the Q: Why didn't they move him in the offseason? Would've gotten more than unsalted peanuts. https://t.co/xtyWlOlUEW
— Sosa K (@QBsMVP) October 23, 2019
October 23, 2019 at 12:43 pm in reply to: tweets + other things (w/ VB Q&A) … 10/21 thru 10/23 #107199
znModeratorThese teams have been the best/worst at finishing red zone trips with TDs so far this season. #Skol #GoBills #InBrotherhood #GoPackGo #WeAreTexans #Colts #Bears100 #Seahawks #DallasCowboys #FlyEaglesFly #LARams #Titans @gregcosell | @MattBowen41 pic.twitter.com/vrQlv3k03D
— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) October 23, 2019
znModeratorAndrew Whitworth has wins against 31 of the 32 NFL teams. On Sunday, he'll try to make it 32 of 32
Things to know for Rams-Bengals https://t.co/Y54vzcwbya
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) October 23, 2019
October 23, 2019 at 10:38 am in reply to: tweets + other things (w/ VB Q&A) … 10/21 thru 10/23 #107191
znModeratorDOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
Are the #Rams moving Gerald Everett to more of a WR type of role? Johnny Mundt had 20 snaps in this game. This is one of only three games he had been active. He’s made some significant strides as a blocker. He’s first on the team in run and pass blocking grade per PFF.Worth mentioning Mundt is a stellar athlete but injuries have held him back going back to his Oregon days.
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#LARams Dante Fowler was ELITE this week, earnings grades of 90.0+ in Overall Defense and Pass Rushing for Week 7
Fowler is currently on track to earn his highest career grades in Overall Defense, Rush Defense, and Pass Rushing for 2019 pic.twitter.com/Rk9QYM0Ejq
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) October 22, 2019
October 23, 2019 at 1:28 am in reply to: highlights Falcons game … + a lot of Waldman & other play-focus vids #107189
znModeratorAaron Donald edge reps >>>>
Aaron Donald edge reps vs. Kaleb McGary? Okay, now you are just being cruel. pic.twitter.com/mw8lagpXAs
— JAKE OLIVER ELLENBOGEN (@JKBogenDTR) October 23, 2019
znModeratorVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Got some questions from fans about the #Rams O-line and how guys are “grading” out on various sites. One thing to keep in mind, there is often context and nuance involved that sometimes goes undisclosed. It’s just part of the “no excuse mentality.”As a for instance, Austin Blythe was in a walking boot after rolling the heck out of his ankle against the #Saints. He came back after missing one game, but my instincts after covering sports as long as I have tell me there’s zero chance he was completely healthy on return
Good chance he’s playing through something. Good chance that in time he works through the issue. It’s just part of the deal sometimes. Not making excuses at all. Just trying to add some context.
znModeratorDavid Edwards displays “locked in” mentality in first career start
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-david-edwards-first-career-start
ATLANTA – Late in last Sunday’s game against the Falcons, Rams WR Robert Woods wanted to check on LG David Edwards and ask him how he was doing.
Why? Because Woods seemingly hadn’t heard a word out of him up until that point.
“He had that mindset all game, he was so locked in,” Woods said. “Fourth quarter, I looked over and I’m like, ‘Yo, what’s up David? You didn’t say nothing all game,’ because he was over there dominating.”
Yes, Edwards was that focused during first career start. He said his mindset was intentional.
“After the first couple plays, it felt like I eased into it and was able to kind of quiet my mind, let me technique (work) and just go play,” Edwards said.
It was a performance that garnered praise from teammates, coaches and a national expert alike. Per scouting service Pro Football Focus, Edwards’ grade of 60.9 against Atlanta marked the highest by a Los Angeles left guard this season.
“I thought he displayed really good poise and maturity for a younger guy making his first start, especially when you look at just the sliding inside at that guard position, things happen a little bit quicker,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said. “I think he did a nice job. I think he’s only going to get better. I thought he played with great length and protection. He did a good job getting his hands on guys and I think that was a big part of why we were able to keep (QB) Jared (Goff) clean most of the day.”
Similar to last week, Edwards credited Rams starting left tackle and 14-year NFL vet Andrew Whitworth for helping him adjust and prepare.
Edwards primarily played right tackle during his Badger career and didn’t begin playing left guard until he got to Los Angeles. Playing alongside Whitworth made the transition much easier.
“Anytime he talks in a meeting, on the field, you take notice, take notes and try to absorb it, because the guy has played so much football,” Edwards said. “Having him, especially (Sunday), just to be able to learn and bounce stuff off of (him based on) what I was thinking was awesome. He was great, too.”
Unfortunately for Edwards, he didn’t have any family members in attendance at Mercedes-Benz Stadium. He said they were unable to make it because his younger brother Joe had a championship game and his father David is one of the team’s coaches.
If Edwards plays like he did last week, though, it’s safe to say they will have plenty more opportunities to catch him in action.
“He played really, really big time for us,” Woods said.
October 22, 2019 at 11:50 pm in reply to: highlights Falcons game … + a lot of Waldman & other play-focus vids #107184
znModeratorGerald Everett absolutely toasts Jamal Carter who has to hold on for dear life. Goff overthrows Everett but the hold is the reason for the likely overthrow. One thing I’m going to say. I think the #Rams are slowly pulling the plug on TE Everett and riding with him as a weapon. pic.twitter.com/4oE9ZwGqpH
— JAKE OLIVER ELLENBOGEN (@JKBogenDTR) October 23, 2019
October 22, 2019 at 10:29 pm in reply to: highlights Falcons game … + a lot of Waldman & other play-focus vids #107181
znModeratorWhy is Johnny Mundt on the #Rams roster? This block right here. Outstanding job to get over to the running side after being motioned away. Mundt comes sprinting into the scene to destroy Vic Beasley and clear the way for Darrell Henderson’s impressive run. pic.twitter.com/ybMBuAAyNI
— JAKE OLIVER ELLENBOGEN (@JKBogenDTR) October 23, 2019
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