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znModeratorThere's no question that new Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley will figure out what to do with Aaron Donald.
The question is, how will the Rams support Donald at nose tackle and on the outside? @JourdanRodrigue and I discuss!https://t.co/cAdXGLwmYe
— Rich Hammond (@Rich_Hammond) July 1, 2020
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Hammond: In January, before Staley’s hiring had been announced, I talked to one of his longtime friends and colleagues, who said Staley already had been scheming with Donald in mind. He clearly is the sun around which the entire defense revolves.
I also am very curious about the rotation. The Rams signed A’Shawn Robinson when it seemed Michael Brockers was on his way to Baltimore, and now they also have Brockers. The Rams like Sebastian Joseph-Day a lot. All of these guys are pretty versatile so I’m sure they’ll move around a lot. My initial question is, who will be the primary nose tackle?
znModeratorI believe the children are our future.https://t.co/Uru4lGxXKi
— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) July 1, 2020
znModeratorOriginally posted by wv, moved here by me.
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link:https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/oklahoma-woman-shot-while-trying-to-steal-mans-nazi-flag-authorities-say/2348352/
Oklahoma Woman Shot While Trying to Steal Man’s Nazi Flag, Authorities Say
The victim had been with friends at a nearby party when she apparently snatched one of the swastika flags displayed outside the man’s home
Published June 30, 2020 • Updated on July 1, 2020
An Oklahoma man who proudly flies Nazi flags at his home opened fire on a young woman who tried to steal one of those banners, officials said.Alexander John Feaster, 44, was being held in the Garfield County Jail on Tuesday, booked for assault and battery with a deadly weapon and shooting with intent to kill, according to jail administrators.
Deputies in Hunter, a small town about 90 miles north of Oklahoma City, found the 26-year-old woman in a ditch Sunday after she had been shot in the back by Feaster between three and five times with a 5.56mm rifle, according to Garfield County Sheriff Jody Helm.
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znModerator'Shazam!' star Zachary Levi is going to play Super Bowl Champ and Hall of Famer Kurt Warner in a movie about his life titled 'American Underdog: The Kurt Warner Story'.
(via @Variety) pic.twitter.com/tGHqVqt9AT
— Lights, Camera, Pod (@LightsCameraPod) July 1, 2020
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Wow. This is uncanny
https://t.co/g3mujBVxgp— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) July 1, 2020
znModeratorCheck out the oculus. https://t.co/fiCIDFFOK9
— Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) July 1, 2020
znModerator🚨 Susan in Montclair, NJ spends 30 minutes harassing two black lawyers because she wants to know if they have a permit for their new stone patio.
Then lies and says the husband attacked her. But the rest of the white women on the street congregate to drag her unwashed ass. pic.twitter.com/7SKTFOWll5
— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) July 1, 2020
znModeratorAz Hakim was a playmaker who could turn would-be tacklers inside and out with his quickness and burst!
In his breakout game against New England in 1998, the rookie added 2 touchdowns, one on a 34 yard end around run pic.twitter.com/f6pPJ4KgZn
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) July 1, 2020
znModeratorthis is big, the first direct quote from the virus. https://t.co/dSDOCPGmi4
— Sarah Parcak (@indyfromspace) July 1, 2020
znModerator


znModeratorKent Hill leads the way and takes out 2 tacklers for the running back to hit pay dirt! Hill made 5 pro bowls for the Rams as a left guard in the 80s while blocking for the great Eric Dickerson pic.twitter.com/Lff5P8DbOb
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) June 30, 2020
znModeratorWee Baby Seamus@weebaby121
One thing that concerns me about Okoronkwo’s playing time is Staley seems to covet length and run defense in his edge players which are the two areas obo struggles the most inCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Yup. Okoronkwo doesn’t have the benefit of Wade Phillips – who does well with undersized pass rushers – in his corner anymore.
znModeratorOG Austin Corbett, Los Angeles Rams
Another offensive lineman with a lot to prove, Austin Corbett was an intriguing prospect who was potentially overdrafted by the Browns in the second round. His NFL position was always up for debate, having played tackle in college, but he was always viewed as an interior lineman at the next level. He has been playing almost exclusively at left guard in the NFL, having impressed the most at the Senior Bowl at center, but that playing time has been almost universally poor thus far. What’s impressive is how consistently below-average Corbett has been so far, with every start he had for the Rams last season earning an overall PFF grade in the 50.0s. Corbett enters 2020 needing to show improvement to save his future at the NFL level.
July 1, 2020 at 9:48 am in reply to: NFL on having a season w/ pandemic (thread 1, to 7/17)) #117393
znModeratorAs the NFL and the union work toward workplace rules for training camps, NFLPA president says every answer “brings up three more questions” https://t.co/RqYZk0ycko
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 1, 2020
znModeratorBest offensive supporting casts of the decade (All Non-QBs) per PFF WAR:
1. 2018 Rams
2. 2016 Falcons
3. 2014 Cowboys
4. 2011 Saints pic.twitter.com/76khbnyOi6— PFF (@PFF) July 1, 2020
znModeratorI am going to ask a personal request, if I can. I typed up an answer to Waterfield’s question about what is left/progressive and the ways the 2 mainstream parties are the same. I wonder if I could get people interested in adding to that discussion. I am always wondering about how to put that and what it includes. Other perspectives would help, it’s always enlightening to hear well-informed people muse about this. It’s here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/are-dems-and-reps-really-the-same/
znModeratorFauci Says U.S. Could See 100,000 New Cases a Day If No Change
Hospitalizations on the rise in 12 states, CDC’s Redfield says40 Percent Of Americans Think Worst Of The Pandemic Is Behind Us, As WHO Warns Worst Is Yet To Come
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/40-percent-of-americans-think-worst-of-the-pandemic-is-behind-us-as-who-warns-worst-is-yet-to-come/?fbclid=IwAR2IMRu6WFikoAONxOueY5UwoXQYxVv-A-mczqGjgVK5ksk4uc4BjRI0AX4
znModeratorThe Athletic L.A.@TheAthleticLA
🏈 Rob Havenstein at right tackle?
🏈 Bobby Evans or David Edwards at right guard?
🏈 Austin Corbett or Joe Noteboom at left guard?I don’t know why they do it that way.
Depends on whether Hav can go at ROT (and they make a case that he was already playing hurt early in the year before then going out with a new injury).
If Hav can go at ROT, then I would think it would be Evans and Edwards as the first 2 up at LOG and ROG. I think they’re both ahead of Corbett, and I think it’s too soon for Noteboom to be in the running with those 3. I think NB just backs up Whitworth.
If Hav can’t go it’s a different story. But if Hav can go I see Edwards and Evans in line for both guard spots, Corbett 3rd in line, and NB not in line at all at OG except as eventual depth there. (“Eventual” because there’s a good chance he isn’t ready to play at the start of the season…IMO NB, when he’s up to speed, will be a prospect at LOT behind AW.)
It will also be interesting to see if they have anything in Trewyn, Anchrum, and Brewer. All 3 are intriguing prospects actually. But they would be depth in 2020, not starters, you would think.
I think people know about Anchrum and Brewer but Trewyn gets good buzz too. See this post in this thread: zn, May 10, 2020 at 3:47 pm, on page 1. There’s not much on him but there’s enough for him to be intriguing. Here’s a taste: “He’s a tough, wide-bodied blocker at the pivot who plays with terrific fundamentals”.
znModeratorAmy McGrath just won her unexpectedly close Kentucky Senate primary
McGrath will face off against Mitch McConnell in November.
znModeratorBacklash to Asian American wife in Floyd case reveals disturbing truth
Kimmy Yam
https://www.yahoo.com/news/backlash-against-asian-american-woman-121950813.html
As more details around the death of George Floyd are revealed, other developments, including that the ex-officer charged with murder in the case was married to a Hmong American woman, have prompted chatter — and a spate of hateful remarks — in the Asian American community around interracial relationships.
The ex-officer, Derek Chauvin, was fired the day after the shooting and now faces murder and manslaughter charges. The day after his arrest last month, his wife, Kellie, filed for divorce, citing “an irretrievable breakdown” in the marriage. She also indicated her intention to change her name.
The Chauvins’ interracial marriage has stirred up strong feelings toward Kellie Chauvin among many, including Asian American men, over her relationship with a white man, including accusations of self-loathing and complicity with white supremacy.
Some on the internet have labeled her a “self-hating Asian.” Others have concluded her marriage was a tool to gain social standing in the U.S., and several social media users on Asian American message boards dominated by men have dubbed her a “Lu,” a slang term often used to describe Asian women who are in relationships with white men as a form of white worship.
Many experts feel the reaction is symptomatic of attitudes that many in the community, especially certain men, have held toward women in interracial relationships, particularly with white men. It’s the unfortunate result of a complicated, layered web spun from the historical emasculation of Asian men, fetishization of Asian women and the collision of sexism and racism in the U.S.
Sung Yeon Choimorrow, executive director of the nonprofit National Asian Pacific American Women’s Forum, told NBC Asian America that by passing judgment on Asian women’s interracial relationships without context or details essentially removes their independence.
“The assumption is that an Asian woman who is married to a white man, she’s living some sort of stereotype of a submissive Asian woman, who’s internalizing racism and wanting to be white or being closer to white or whatever,” she said.
That belief, Choimorrow added, “just goes with the whole idea that somehow we don’t have a right to live our lives the way we want to.”
Little about the Chauvins’ marriage has been revealed to the public. Kellie, who came to the U.S. as a refugee, mentioned a few details in a 2018 interview with The Twin Cities Pioneer Press before becoming Mrs. Minnesota America that year. She explained she had previously been in an arranged marriage in which she endured domestic abuse. She met Chauvin while she was working in the emergency room of Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis.
Kellie Chauvin is hardly the only Asian woman who has been the target of these comments. In 2018, “Fresh Off the Boat” actress Constance Wu opened up about the anger she received from Asian men — specifically “MRAsians,” an Asian American play on the term “men’s rights activists” — for having dated a white man. Wu, who also starred in the culturally influential Asian American rom-com “Crazy Rich Asians,” was included in a widely circulated meme that, in part, attacked the female cast members for relationships with white men.
Experts pointed out that the underlying rhetoric isn’t confined to message boards or solely the darker corners of the internet. It’s rife throughout Asian American communities, and Asian women have long endured judgment and harassment for their relationship choices. Choimorrow notes it’s become a sort of “locker room talk” among many men in the racial group.
“It’s not [just] incel, Reddit conversations,” Choimorrow said. “I’m hearing this amongst people daily.”
But sociologist Nancy Wang Yuen, a scholar focused on Asian American media representation, pointed out that the origins of such anger have some validity. The roots lie in the emasculation of Asian American men, a practice whose history dates back to the 1800s and early 1900s in what is referred to today as the “bachelor society,” Yuen said. That time period marked some of the first waves of immigration from Asia to the U.S. as Chinese workers were recruited to build the transcontinental railroad. One of the preliminary immigrant groups of Filipinos, dubbed the “manong generation,” also arrived in the country a few decades later.
While Asian men made their way stateside, women largely remained in Asia. Yuen noted that simultaneously, limits on Asian female immigration were instituted via the Page Act of 1875, which banned the importation of women “for the purpose of prostitution.” According to research published in The Modern American, the legislation may have been meant to cut off prostitution, but it was often weaponized to keep any Asian woman from entering the country, as it granted immigration officers the authority to determine whether a woman was of “high moral character.”
Moreover, antimiscegenation laws, or bans on interracial unions, kept Asian men from marrying other races, Yuen noted. It wasn’t until the 1967 case, Loving v. Virginia, that such legislation was declared unconstitutional.
“Americans thought of [Asian men] as emasculated,” she said. “They’re not perceived as virile because there’s no women. Because of immigration laws, there was a whole bachelor society … and so you have all these different kinds of Asian men in the United States who did not have partners.”
As the image of Asian men was once, in part, the architecture of racist legislation, the sexless, undesirable trope was further confirmed by Hollywood depictions of the race. Even heartthrob Japanese actor Sessue Hayakawa, who did experience appeal from white women, was used to show Asian men as sexual threats during a period of rising anti-Japanese sentiment.
Often, these portrayals of both men and women evolved with war, Yuen added. For example, the sexualization of Asian women on screen was heightened after the Vietnam War due to prostitution and sex trafficking that American military men often took part in. Stanley Kubrick’s 1987 film “Full Metal Jacket” infamously perpetuates the stereotype of women as sexual deviants with a scene featuring a Vietnamese sex worker exclaiming, “Me so horny.”
Asian women were seen as “the spoils of war and Asian men were seen as threats,” she said. “So always seeing them as either an enemy to be conquered or an enemy to be feared, all that has to do with the stereotypes of Asian men and women.”
Yuen is quick to point out that Asian women, who possessed very little decision-making power throughout U.S. history, were neither behind the legislation nor the narratives in the American entertainment industry.
The historical emasculation of Asian men stings to this day. A study from OkCupid found that Asian men were ranked least desirable among all demographics. Another study found that the majority of its Asian American female respondents reported their attraction, from a young age, was overwhelmingly to European American boys.
Pawan Dhingra, a sociologist and a professor of American studies at Amherst College, said this is in part due to the fact that Asian American women were not only consumers of Western media that perpetuated such stereotypes about Asian men while romanticizing the sensitive, “masculine” white man, they also internalized some cultural baggage from the often-patriarchal societies of their heritages.
“It comes from a set of assumptions we internalize ourselves. We see immigrant parents, or relationships between men and women in the homeland, that might be more traditional gender roles,” Dhingra said. “We assume that it applies to all people of our background, even no matter where they grew up.”
However, directing anger toward Asian women for their interracial relationships uncovers a host of problematic underlying beliefs, experts said. Some of the vitriol stems from erroneous assumptions that because women are seen as more sexually desirable, they are therefore more privileged. Anthony Ocampo — a sociologist who focuses on race, immigration and LGBTQ issues — bluntly referred to that particular argument as “unbelievably stupid.”
“Privilege is the ability to navigate the social world and experience social mobility without your identity hampering your journey. In what world do you see Asian women getting frontrunners for public office, being tapped to be CEOs of companies, to be considered for leads in Hollywood movies?” the scholar said. “Sure, Asian men aren’t being tapped for these opportunities either, but Asian women aren’t the problem — white gatekeepers are.”
Moreover, Choimorrow said the idea that Asian women are more privileged ignores the dangerous byproducts of their fetishization. This includes not only the dehumanization of these women, but also the susceptibility to harassment and violence due to the submissive stereotype.
From “21 to 55 percent of Asian women in the U.S. report experiencing intimate physical and/or sexual violence during their lifetime,” the Asian Pacific Institute on Gender-Based Violence reported. The range is based on a compilation of studies of disaggregated samples of Asian ethnicities in local communities. The National Sexual Violence Resource Center reported that about 1 in 5 women in the U.S. overall have experienced completed or attempted rape during her lifetime.
“I just hate this whole Olympics of the oppressed,” Choimorrow said. “I just think it’s such a short-sighted approach. Dude, you don’t walk out every day worrying about your physical safety. For women, that’s exactly what we worry about when we walk out our door.”
Yuen echoed her thoughts, adding, “Just because Asian women don’t share the same kinds of challenges as Asian men doesn’t mean that they should be held to a different standard or at their struggle within the racial sexual politics of the United States. It isn’t any less valid.”
Dhingra also acknowledged that there lies a double standard when it comes to Asian women, leading the group to be judged more harshly than their male peers. He explained that it comes down to a uniquely racialized brand of sexism. Being in relationships with other Asian Americans has been seen as a sort of litmus test for how “committed” one is to the race. Additionally, because of the existing stereotype of Asian women as submissive, particularly to white men, the sight of an Asian woman in an interracial relationship can trigger the idea that she is perpetuating existing stereotypes. He explained that there’s a perception that Asian women are reproducing racism toward Asian men and affirming the idea that they’re not worth dating.
He said the collision of sexism and racism has made it so that there’s a stricter, more unfair dynamic placed on Asian American women.
The burden placed on Asian American women to date within their own race also presents another problematic idea: that women are still thought of as property, Choimorrow noted. It’s just another form of toxic masculinity, she said, as the expectation that Asian women date Asian men means there is no agency in their dating choices. It’s a mentality that has been inherited through our heritages, she said.
“Even in Korea, as a woman, your value isn’t so much as you are marriageable,” she said. “So many of our cultures have these things very deeply ingrained in the way we value and think about women.”
Little has changed, Choimorrow believes. Even as many Asian Americans continue to fight for racial justice, some ideas have been slow to evolve.
“Especially in the progressive circles, they’re focused on their oppression as a racial minority, that they often don’t think about what they’re perpetuating as men,” she said.
The undue pressure toward Asian American women to “fix” the existing structures is not productive in helping mend the reductive perceptions of Asian men, Ocampo said.
Simply put, “You don’t need to subjugate women, including Asian women, to feel sexy. That’s just f—— lame.”
Dhingra is adamant that no assumptions should be made about any couple’s racial dynamic, particularly if there’s no personal connection to the couple. But he also emphasized that people need to push back on the perpetuation of the problematic ideas in society that devalue Asian Americans while upholding whiteness.
Ocampo had similar thoughts, explaining that more people should be demanding more complicated Asian male characters on screen, rather than those who fit “some perfectly chiseled IG model aesthetic,” he said, referencing carefully curated photos from models on Instagram.
While there are many social reasons for why we value whiteness that Dhingra said are “pretty messed up,” Asian Americans should seek to dismantle them and thus “get to the point where we have more confidence when people do form interracial relationships, because we actually care about that particular individual as a person.”
znModeratorfrom Facebook
President George W. Bush’s chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, has a message for people who are excusing President Trump’s racism:
“I had fully intended to ignore President Trump’s latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official, and an African American activist, and an African American journalist and a whole city with a lot of African Americans in it. I had every intention of walking past Trump’s latest outrages and writing about the self-destructive squabbling of the Democratic presidential field, which has chosen to shame former vice president Joe Biden for the sin of being an electable, moderate liberal.
But I made the mistake of pulling James Cone’s ‘The Cross and the Lynching Tree’ off my shelf — a book designed to shatter convenient complacency. Cone recounts the case of a white mob in Valdosta, Ga., in 1918 that lynched an innocent man named Haynes Turner. Turner’s enraged wife, Mary, promised justice for the killers. The sheriff responded by arresting her and then turning her over to the mob, which included women and children. According to one source, Mary was ‘stripped, hung upside down by the ankles, soaked with gasoline, and roasted to death. In the midst of this torment, a white man opened her swollen belly with a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death.’
God help us. It is hard to write the words. This evil — the evil of white supremacy, resulting in dehumanization, inhumanity and murder — is the worst stain, the greatest crime, of U.S. history. It is the thing that nearly broke the nation. It is the thing that proved generations of Christians to be vicious hypocrites. It is the thing that turned normal people into moral monsters, capable of burning a grieving widow to death and killing her child.
When the president of the United States plays with that fire or takes that beast out for a walk, it is not just another political event, not just a normal day in campaign 2020. It is a cause for shame. It is the violation of martyrs’ graves. It is obscene graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. It is, in the eyes of history, the betrayal — the re-betrayal — of Haynes and Mary Turner and their child. And all of this is being done by an ignorant and arrogant narcissist reviving racist tropes for political gain, indifferent to the wreckage he is leaving, the wounds he is ripping open.
Like, I suspect, many others, I am finding it hard to look at resurgent racism as just one in a series of presidential offenses or another in a series of Republican errors. Racism is not just another wrong. The Antietam battlefield is not just another plot of ground. The Edmund Pettus Bridge is not just another bridge. The balcony outside Room 306 at the Lorraine Motel is not just another balcony. As U.S. history hallows some causes, it magnifies some crimes.
What does all this mean politically? It means that Trump’s divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless. Trump’s continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means — whatever their intent — that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.
Some political choices are not just stupid or crude. They represent the return of our country’s cruelest, most dangerous passion. Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us.”
— Michael Gerson
znModeratorIs the latest ‘russia’ story in the corporate-press, based on “anonymous sources in the intelligence community” ?
It’s a story that makes Trump look bad, since (as it goes) he did not take the info seriously. Why wouldn’t someone in the administration just go “naw they made that up.”
Did Russians put bounties on Americans in Afghanistan? Sure, probably. Heck when the Soviets were there, the USA gave the Afghanis “Man-portable air-defense systems” (that’s a real thing) to take out those heavy, built like a tank helicopters of theirs (the “end of Red Dawn” type helicopters). Al Qaeda, at least partly funded by the USA, was originally formed as a group dedicated to attacking Soviets in Afghanistan.
So why wouldn’t the Russians do the budget version and just pay bounties.
A MANPADS as they’re called:

The “end of Red Dawn” Russian built-like-a-tank style attack helicopter (the Mi-24 Hind):

znModeratorFauci Says U.S. Could See 100,000 New Cases a Day If No Change
Hospitalizations on the rise in 12 states, CDC’s Redfield saysJune 30, 2020 at 3:31 pm in reply to: NFL on having a season w/ pandemic (thread 1, to 7/17)) #117354
znModeratorWill there be a player revolt if NFL coronavirus protections aren't enough? https://t.co/W30nWNB0Cu
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) June 30, 2020
znModeratorPentagon officials were ‘pounding on the door’ to get Trump to do something about Russia’s assassination bounty: WaPo’s Ignatius https://t.co/g2Q3J0IgUf
— Jorie graham (@jorie_graham) June 30, 2020
znModeratorBefore Trump was elected, some folks I know in various parts of the universe, online and in the “real world,” tried to suggest he wouldn’t be that bad. I always believed he would be even worse than people imagined.
BUT…if you ignore the daily WTF?! moments, all he has done, really, is implement the right-republican agenda, as much as he could.
Which IMO is the absolute worst thing about him.
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znModeratorYou fought for every yard that year, Steven! In a group of hall of famers right there, and you are one in my book! https://t.co/PwlO5fSd9t pic.twitter.com/frUG5Z1Exg
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) June 30, 2020
znModeratorThe longest in-air pass by a RB since 2014🚀
Cam Akers, Florida State – 42 yardspic.twitter.com/coaOcqqS9F
— PFF College (@PFF_College) June 29, 2020
znModerator🏈 Rob Havenstein at right tackle?
🏈 Bobby Evans or David Edwards at right guard?
🏈 Austin Corbett or Joe Noteboom at left guard?It's time to discuss and debate the Rams' offensive line | @JourdanRodrigue @Rich_Hammondhttps://t.co/4NMCh4vkL8
— The Athletic L.A. (@TheAthleticLA) July 1, 2020
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Jourdan Rodrigue
Sean McVay reiterated this spring that Havenstein was working through some injuries last season that in part contributed to his poor play. And if Havenstein works out at right tackle, that might mean seeing Evans at guard — something else McVay alluded to when he spoke with us in the spring.
Rich Hammond
I thought maybe … they might attempt to trade Havenstein, but the fact that they didn’t tells me they think he’s still a starting-caliber right tackle.
June 29, 2020 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Patz news: Cam Newton signs, & they lose a pick for filming #117327
znModerator— Pick Six Podcast (@picksixpod) June 29, 2020
znModeratorCan anyone believe that Princeton just dropped the name of Woodrow Wilson from their highly respected policy center. Now the Do Nothing Democrats want to take off the name John Wayne from an airport. Incredible stupidity!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 29, 2020
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