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August 27, 2020 at 3:52 am in reply to: Rams camp, 2020 … including “At Camp Live” vids w/ Long, Farr, & MJ-D #120057
znModeratorRams training camp, Day 6: Taylor Rapp on the mend
Eric D. Williams
https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/la-rams-safety-taylor-rapp-on-the-mendTHOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — A recap of Wednesday’s practice at Rams training camp:
PLAYER OF THE DAY
For the first time during training camp, Los Angeles Rams safety Taylor Rapp suited up in pads and a jersey.
The University of Washington product did not get a chance to practice with his teammates, instead running through agility drills with the training staff.
Still, Rapp appeared to move pain free and seems closer to returning from a knee issue that has sidelined him since the start of camp.
With Rapp unavailable, rookies Terrell Burgess and Jordan Fuller have been getting more reps with the starters.
“It was a positive sign seeing him out there moving around,” Rams head coach Sean McVay said. “That was exactly what we hoped. And I think we’ll just see a progressive build from here on out.”
PLAY OF THE DAY
Undrafted rookie receiver Earnest Edwards out of Maine flashed on back-to-back plays, the second with one shoe on.
Edwards caught a bubble screen on the perimeter and darted upfield for a 20-yard gain, but had his shoe pulled off by a defender.
No matter. The offense went quick and Edwards lined up with just his sock on, running an out route and hauling in a catch for a 7-yard completion.
Running back John Kelly had a couple explosive runs during team drills.
MATCHUP OF THE DAY
Rookie Van Jefferson has struggled at times matching up against cornerback Jalen Ramsey in practice, but he got the best of him on Wednesday.
Twice down near the goal line, Jefferson shook loose from Ramsey off the line of scrimmage and beat him inside for touchdowns on slant routes during one-on-one drills, to the delight of the offense.
The wins against Ramsey are the latest example of the blossoming confidence from the rookie out of Florida.
As far as Ramsey’s contract status, McVay had no update on the ongoing negotiations.
“Obviously, Jalen is focused on playing football, McVay said. “Those are things that we’re trying to handle behind the scenes, but the one thing I think we all know is Jalen is so refreshingly secure in himself and confident that it would be great if it gets done, but you also know this guy is not going to be distracted by whether it is, or isn’t done.
“He’s going to go out and try and demonstrate why he’s one of the best in the league at what he does.”
Ramsey also pledged to donate $1 million to Purpose Academy in his hometown of Nashville, Tenn. to purchase more resources to expand its programming.
ROLL CALL
Defensive tackle Aaron Donald did not practice on Wednesday, as McVay said he got a maintenance rest day.Running back Darrell Henderson Jr., out since suffering a minor hamstring strain in last week’s scrimmage, also worked with trainers on the field at the start of practice.
znModeratorKenosha Police Chief Blames Protesters for Their Own Deaths, Defends Vigilante Groups
On Wednesday, 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse was arrested in Illinois on charges of first-degree murder after allegedly shooting and killing two protesters the night before during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in response to the shooting of Jacob Blake earlier this week.
During the Kenosha Police Department’s first press conference in response to the Blake shooting and subsequent protests, Chief Daniel Miskinis blamed the unidentified victims in Tuesday night’s shooting for their own deaths, saying the violence was the result of the “persons” involved violating curfew:
Persons who were out after the curfew became engaged in some type of disturbance, and persons were shot. Everybody involved was out after the curfew. I’m not going to make a great deal of that, but the point is the curfew is in place to protect. Had persons not been out involved in violation of that, perhaps the situation that unfolded would not have happened.
“It is the persons who were involved after the legal time, involved in illegal activity, that brought violence to this community,” Miskinis added later, seeming to blame protesters who were on the streets because a member of Miskinis’ department, who was identified late on Wednesday as Officer Rusten Sheskey, shot Blake seven times in the back as his children watched. *
Miskinis would not give the names of the “persons” who were the victims of Wednesday’s murders, but did say they were “a 26-year-old Silver Lake resident and a 36-year-old Kenosha resident.”
In describing the shooting of two protesters, Miskinis also declined to call it a homicide and instead referred to it by various euphemisms often used to describe killings by a police officer, which Rittenhouse is not. He said that the shooter “was involved in the use of firearms to resolve whatever conflict was in place” and that there was a “disturbance that led to the use of deadly force.”
Additionally, Miskinis refused to comment on the video of Blake’s shooting, but offered that there may have been a reasonable explanation for the man being shot seven times in the back, which has reportedly left him paralyzed and in critical condition. (The officer has been put on administrative leave and has not been fired or arrested.)
“I’m not going to address that because it is one snippet of a very large situation and much as what’s happened across this nation for a long period of time, it’s focused on what you see in this much of an incident,” Miskinis said, apparently alluding to other police shootings of unarmed Black men. “It’s unfair to everybody involved, whether you’re the person using force or the person being arrested that the picture isn’t painted.”
Video taken on Tuesday before the shooting showed Rittenhouse gathered with what appeared to be members of armed militia groups. Those vigilante groups had gathered on Tuesday night, it was reported by CNN and the Verge, in response to calls on Facebook for “any patriots willing to take up arms and defend our city tonight from the evil thugs.”
When asked about the vigilante groups, Miskinis defended them as civilians out to protect property and “exercise their constitutional right.”
“Across this nation there have been armed civilians who have come out to exercise their constitutional right and to potentially protect property,” he said. “Am I aware that groups exist? Yes, but they weren’t invited to come.”
Miskinis’ views of the gathering of vigilante groups that reportedly led to the killing of two local men appears to be very much in line with those of his department. Before the shooting, officers in armored vehicles could be seen giving water to armed men gathered with the alleged shooter and telling them, “We appreciate you guys, we really do.” After the killings, the alleged shooter walked slowly past a series of police vehicles with his arms raised and was allowed to simply walk away. (It’s not yet clear what the officers knew about the shooting at the time, but the shots were audible in nearby footage.)
When asked why his officers had given the armed men water and thanked them, Miskinis said, “Our deputies would toss a water to anybody” and “You’re asking me to tell you what one person did. I can’t tell you that.” In explaining why his officers were able to show such restraint with Tuesday’s shooter, he blamed the “high stress” situation on the scene and possible “tunnel vision” on the part of his officers.
“I’m not making an excuse. I’m just telling you from personal experience what could have done that,” he said.
Toward the end of his comments, Miskinis was asked about the vigilante groups and again compared them to the protesters who had violated curfew, saying both sides were to blame.
“It’s no different than those on the protesters’ side who are walking around armed and those who are counterprotesters, or those who are just witnessing, to be armed, so I’m not going to address any more issues relative to that,” he said.
When asked if he wanted the vigilante groups to be present again after Wednesday night’s curfew, Miskinis refused to reply.
“I just said I’m not going to answer any more questions,” he said.
When asked again, he again refused to say. “I’m done talking about that,” Miskinis said.
At the end of the press conference, Kenosha Mayor John Antaramian clarified whether the city wanted armed vigilante groups patrolling the street after the killing of two civilians. “No, I don’t need more guns on the street in the community,” he said.
August 27, 2020 at 3:06 am in reply to: Rams camp, 2020 … including “At Camp Live” vids w/ Long, Farr, & MJ-D #120055
znModerator10 Observations from the Rams’ Aug. 26 training camp practice
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-aug-26-training-camp-practice
1) Saw safety Taylor Rapp (knee) in uniform – pads and helmet included – doing some work off to the side with members of the Rams’ athletic training staff. While running back Darrell Henderson (hamstring) didn’t have pads and a helmet on, he was also doing the same. Rams head coach Sean McVay said after practice this activity was “a step in the right direction” for both.
2) In a setting that prompted flashbacks to last Saturday’s scrimmage, rookie wide receiver Van Jefferson matched up with cornerback Jalen Ramsey twice during one-on-one redzone work. While Ramsey got the best of Jefferson on Saturday, it was Jefferson who won each of those two reps in today’s practice.
3) Also similar to last Saturday’s scrimmage, Jefferson got reps with both reserves and the first-team offense and was routinely getting open against defensive backs belonging to both groups.
4) Defensive tackle Aaron Donald had a veteran’s day off. “We needed to give those interior (offensive) lineman a breather,” McVay joked.
5) Even on his day off, though, Donald was still active throughout practice by helping defensive line coach Eric Henderson coach the group during drills.
6) At the same time, the offense seemed to capitalize on Donald’s absence. During 11-on-11 work, Goff connected with wide receiver Cooper Kupp over the middle on what would’ve been roughly a 20-yard touchdown pass and also completed a short pass to wide receiver Robert Woods for a 2-point conversion.
7) The first-team run defense did a nice job of getting penetration during situational redzone work. One notable play was defensive tackle Sebastian Joseph-Day stopping rookie running back Cam Akers in the backfield for a loss.
8) While it was against the third-team defense, Akers delivered another display of his physicality with the the first-team offense. From near midfield in opponent territory, he broke off what would’ve been a long run to the right side and ran over the only defensive back who stood in his way. Like we saw during the second practice in pads, Akers is not one to shy away from contact.
9) Rookie offensive lineman Tremayne Anchrum Jr. saw action with the second-team unit today. This comes after seeing veteran left tackle Andrew Whitworth taking the time to mentor Anchrum during yesterday’s practice.
10) Kickers Sam Sloman and Lirim Hajrullahu each hit a roughly 40-yard field goal during situational 11-on-11 work. The scenario for both was the end of a drive during the final two minutes of the first half.
znModeratorThe Police Chief of Kenosha says: 17yr old white male took AR-15 to a protest, to resolve the issues. This is an ABSURD and DANGEROUS for him to say. 😡😡😡 https://t.co/jSJZvVLbUQ
— shannon sharpe (@ShannonSharpe) August 26, 2020
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Rams HC Sean McVay said DT Aaron Donald had a veteran day off for today’s training camp practice.“We needed to give some of those interior linemen a breather,” McVay joked.
Terrell Lewis@_Real24_
I ain’t at the top but I know I’m headed thereJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Big celebrations from the offense as Van Jefferson gets Jalen Ramsey twice in a row in red zone one-on-ones Flushed face those two have had some fun battles the last few days.Ramsey = very good football player having a very good camp. Van is just really hitting his stride now.
znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Rams CB Jalen Ramsey is donating $1 million to Purpose Prep Academy in Nashville, TN, which has programs to help educate underprivileged kids, according to a release from Athletes First. In a statement, Ramsey emphasizes importance of a solid elementary education. Awesome==
This is real. @jalenramsey much respect. https://t.co/RQcs64bp5H
— Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) August 26, 2020
znModeratorA 17-Year-Old Aspiring Cop Has Been Charged With Murder In Kenosha
Police arrested Kyle Rittenhouse, a onetime police cadet, whose social media accounts indicated an affinity for the “Back the Blue” movement.A 17-year-old aspiring cop has been arrested and charged with first-degree murder for his alleged role in a shooting during a protest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Tuesday night that left two dead and one injured.
The suspect was identified as Kyle Rittenhouse, of Lake County, Illinois. Prosecutors in Lake County filed the charges at noon Wednesday, and labelled him a fugitive who “fled the state of Wisconsin with intent to avoid prosecution for that offense.”
Tuesday was the third consecutive night of angry protests in Kenosha since police shot Jacob Blake, a Black man, leaving him paralyzed.
Rittenhouse, clad in a green t-shirt, a cap emblazoned with an American flag, and carrying an assault rifle, was seen on video at various points of the night. In several graphic videos, he’s seen opening fire on protesters; one was shot in the head, another in the chest. The victim who survived was shot in the arm.
While it’s not immediately clear why Rittenhouse, a former police cadet, was at the protest, his social media indicates an affiliation with “Back the Blue,” a pro-police movement. In recent months, pro-cop vigilantes have been showing up heavily armed at protests across the country to defend public property, often warmly received by local law enforcement.
Police interacted with the alleged gunman at various locations in Kenosha throughout the night. In one video, Rittenhouse is seen chatting with police who gave him a bottle of water and thanked him for being there.
He was also seen in the vicinity of a group of armed militiamen, who had tasked themselves with protecting a gas station from damage. Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth acknowledged their presence in an interview with Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, but said he wasn’t sure if the suspected shooter was affiliated with them.
The shooting started around 11.30 p.m., hours after the curfew, when a heated confrontation broke out between protesters and the militia men near the gas station. Around that same time, gunshots rang out by an auto-body shop, a few blocks away.
Video shows a group of people running down the street, including the man in the green t-shirt who appears to be being chased. He and his pursuer briefly disappear behind parked cars and then gunshots are heard. “He’s got a gun, he shot him,” the person recording the video is heard saying. Other videos from the scene suggest that there may have been additional gunfire from another direction.
Video shows protesters surrounding the victim, who is lying on the ground between two cars. Multiple people are using their phones as flashlights, trying to figure out where he’s been shot. “In his head, in his head — put pressure on it — put pressure, come on,” one woman says, while holding his head near a bullet wound and telling him “keep your eyes open.”
Video from another angle shows the man in the green t-shirt standing there, on the phone. “I’ve just killed somebody,” he says into his phone, as he starts to move away.
Soon after, another video shows a crowd chasing the suspect down the street. “What did he do?” someone asks. “He shot someone!” someone else replies. The man appears to trip and fall. Two protesters run towards him, he sits up and shoots them both. One person lies motionless in the street. “Medic!” someone in the crowd cries out.
That victim survived and was seen later being treated for a bullet wound in his arm.
The apparent shooter, meanwhile, was seen on video walking away from the scene — his AR-style rifle clearly visible, his hands above his head. But Kenosha police who were responding to the reports of gunfire showed no interest in arresting or even questioning the man.
Instead, they asked him for directions. “Is someone injured, straight ahead?” an officer asks him via loudspeaker.
“Get out of the road,” said another.
He even approached an idling police car, going up close to the window, but then appeared to change his mind and walked away.
Brent Ford, 24, a photographer, witnessed the entire scene. “He had his hands up and they told him to get out of there, even though everyone was yelling that he was the shooter,” Ford told VICE News. “The police didn’t seem to hear or care what the crowd was saying.”
Ford said many in the crowd were armed — not just the militiamen who were standing guard outside a nearby gas station. For example, members of the Socialist Rifle Association, an armed leftist gun group, were present. Other protesters had pistols in holsters. “I had kinda gotten the feeling the police were overwhelmed and didn’t really know what they were doing most of the night,” said Ford.
Ford had also observed that the militiamen seen earlier appeared to be getting special treatment from the police. “One of the police in the Bearcat was yelling over the LRAD [a speaker system] for everyone, press and protesters to disperse,” said Ford. “I noticed that group of armed, I guess militia or citizens, at the gas station behind the police lines weren’t getting told to leave the area, and it kind of struck me as weird.”
The shooter has meanwhile been hailed as a “hero” by the far-right. “That boy is a patriot,” one person wrote on the imageboard 4chan. “Well he became a man today, that’s for sure,” another commented.
znModerator3 Shot, 2 Fatally, In Kenosha, Wis., As Protests Continue Over Police Shooting
Three people were shot, two fatally, during protests Tuesday night in Kenosha, Wis., over Sunday’s police shooting of Jacob Blake.
In a statement, the Kenosha Police Department confirmed two people had been shot and killed and one shot with non-life-threatening injuries. No further details were released.
Earlier, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth told the Kenosha News newspaper that at least one man opened fire on protesters with a long gun. Beth said both the shooter and one of the people killed were white males, though he could not say whether the person killed was an adult.
The third night of protests began peacefully with most protesters dispersing after the city’s 8 p.m. CT curfew. Wisconsin Public Radio reporter Rachael Vasquez said a small group of protesters arrived later and threw objects at police.
The Kenosha News reported scuffles that did not result in gunfire took place between armed men and a group of Black Lives Matter protesters.
The Kenosha Police Department said the shooting occurred about 11:45 p.m. CT.
The protests began Sunday evening after a Kenosha police officer shot Blake seven times in the back during an encounter. Blake, who is Black, is said by his family to be partially paralyzed and is hospitalized in serious condition.
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The #Kenosha shooter openly collaborating with the police earlier.
The police say “Thank you” to him and his other militia buddy, and offer him water. pic.twitter.com/chUjteQwdN
— Friendly Antifa Union Rep (@savantifa) August 26, 2020
Here, a militia member says cops told them they would "push" the protestors towards them because they knew they could handle them. pic.twitter.com/S6lzmJfOJe
— Rebecca Kavanagh (@DrRJKavanagh) August 26, 2020
znModeratorSteven Jackson with the precise jump cut for the redzone score! Not many 230+ pound runners can execute these runs! @sj39 pic.twitter.com/2PUS1c2CDC
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) August 26, 2020
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znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/26/rams-bryce-perkins-sean-mcvay-mobility/
On keeping Perkins over Love as qb 3
McVay was asked whether Perkins’ mobility played a role in the decision to cut Love over Perkins, and it’s clear that was a factor.
“Yeah, I think so. Bryce has done a nice job,” McVay said. “He’s earned the right to be able to get a couple more reps and for us to evaluate him. But, certainly, anytime that you can create off-schedule and be able to do some things that aren’t within the design of the play is a very good quality you like from QBs and John certainly has that.”
znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/26/rams-jalen-ramsey-coaches-dominant-camp/
On Ramsey
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Sean McVay was gushing with praise for the All-Pro cornerback and his impact on the defense.
“He’s been outstanding. I mean, you talk about him really raising his game. I thought I had an appreciation for the way that he played and just watching him from afar, but now really getting a glimpse and with the amount of competitive work we’re getting in these training camp settings — he’s even better than I thought,” McVay said. “He’s had a dominant training camp. He’s making a lot of plays. We’re able to do a lot of different things with his versatility, his intelligence and he’s earning the right to say that he’s one of the best at his position the way that this camp has gone, for sure. He’s a special player. We’re very fortunate to have him.”
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Staley can’t wait to see how Ramsey plays with a full Rams offseason under his belt, especially with John Johnson giving him support over the top at safety.
“He’s a very, very bright football player and I think that’s something that people do not talk enough about him,” Staley said recently. “They talk about his physical gifts, which are obvious, but they don’t talk enough about his mind, the way he thinks, and I think that we’re really lucky to have him that way. I see him as the quarterback back there in the secondary, a guy that can help solve a lot of problems. He and John Johnson, to me – a lot of people talk about Jalen, rightfully so, and I think this guy’s going to play incredible football for us, incredible football. But, he and John Johnson, you can’t ask for two better guys back there quarterbacking your secondary.”
znModeratorJacksonville couple sees home appraisal jump 40 percent after they remove all traces of “Blackness”
A Florida couple whose home appraisal came in far below expectations “white washed” their home before a second appraisal and saw the estimated value jump 40 percent.JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — An Ortega couple whose home appraisal came in more than $100,000 below expectations tried an experiment. According to a Facebook post and a story in Tuesday’s New York Times, Abena and Alex Horton sought a second appraisal — but first, they redecorated their house.
According to Abena Horton’s post, “we took down all family pictures containing Black relatives. We took down all pictures of African-American greats that we display to inspire our son. Zora Neale Hurston and Toni Morrison came down from the bookshelves; Shakespeare went up. My son and I took a convenient shopping trip during the appraisal, leaving my white male husband to show the appraiser around, alone.”
The second appraisal jumped by 40 percent – going from the initial $330,000 to $465,000
“My heart kind of broke,” Ms. Horton told the Times. “I know what the issue was. And I knew what we needed to do to fix it, because in the Black community, it’s just common knowledge that you take your pictures down when you’re selling the house. But I didn’t think I had to worry about that with an appraisal.”
The July 2 Facebook post by Abena Horton explains further:
“On generational wealth. So. We needed to get our home appraised. The appraiser came by and he was immediately unpleasant – making one rude comment after another,’ she wrote.” He expressed exaggerated surprise when he saw me working at my home office during the walk-through. At the end of it we received an appraisal result that was so low that it was laughable. We appraised far lower than *neighboring* home sales with fewer bathrooms, fewer bedrooms, significantly lower square footage and half the land. I knew immediately what needed to happen. …”
Horton said that’s when the family “whitewashed” their home.
“We appraised $135,000 higher the second time around. The amount of an entire house in some areas,” she wrote. “Racism silently but conspicuously steals wealth. Racism wastes time. Racism raises blood pressure. Racism makes me hate myself for my calm acceptance of what I had to do, and have always had to do, to achieve a fair result. I write this from a place of absolute anguish, to sort through my emotions. I want better for my son. #BlackLivesMatter.”
August 26, 2020 at 10:45 am in reply to: Rams camp, 2020 … including “At Camp Live” vids w/ Long, Farr, & MJ-D #120031
znModeratorNews and notes from Rams practice on Tuesday
Cameron DaSilva
link https://theramswire.usatoday.com/lists/rams-camp-practice-notes-news-takeaways/
After getting Sunday and Monday off from practice, the Los Angeles Rams were back on the field Tuesday for another padded practice. It was their first since Saturday’s scrimmage, as they continue to prepare for Week 1 against the Dallas Cowboys.
Although fans aren’t allowed at camp this year and access is somewhat limited for reporters, there’s still plenty of news coming out of each practice throughout the week.
Here are notes and takeaways from Tuesday’s session, as shared by those in attendance at Cal Lutheran in Thousand Oaks.
1 Goff and Woods were humming
There hasn’t been much talk about Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp or the starting offense in training camp, with much of the conversation being about rookies and stud defenders. However, Jared Goff and Woods were clicking on Tuesday, according to reporters in attendance for practice.
They connected a couple of times on passes over the middle, with Goff threading the needle between defenders.
Woods and Goff are two players who don’t need to be discussed much because of how consistent they are in practice, but it’s always good to hear about great plays made by the veterans.2 Lewis shows off length
Terrell Lewis’ wingspan is 83 3/8 inches, and he showed off that length in practice Tuesday. He broke up a pass after dropping into coverage, which Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic called a near-pick.
Coming down with the catch would’ve been nice, but any coverage ability Lewis can show is encouraging because of the requirements needed to play outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme.
3 Young DBs keep up stellar play
Perhaps the most impressive group of players at Rams camp is the secondary, specifically the young defensive backs. Terrell Burgess and Jordan Fuller have been all around the ball, making interceptions consistently in practice.
Nick Scott also had an interception in the scrimmage Saturday, and added another one on Tuesday. Undrafted rookie Tyrique McGhee ended practice with an interception against John Wolford as he continues the strong play of the Rams’ young defenders.
4 Jalen Ramsey makes one-handed INT on Goff
The consensus play of the day among reporters was Ramsey’s spectacular interception on Goff in 11-on-11 drills. It was a one-handed pick, which Ramsey returned for big yardage before passing it off to Aaron Donald, who flipped into the end zone for a hypothetical touchdown.
By all accounts, Ramsey has been as good as advertised in training camp, even if he hasn’t received the attention that his younger teammates have gotten. The Rams are thrilled to have him in the secondary and this is one of the many reasons why.
5 Rapp and Henderson still out
Taylor Rapp remains out with a knee injury, as he has yet to suit up for a padded practice in camp. Darrell Henderson is also sidelined with a hamstring strain, which he suffered on Saturday at the scrimmage.
Sean McVay didn’t have an update on either player Tuesday, saying Rapp is still “day-to-day.” McVay doesn’t expect Rapp to be in any danger of missing Week 1, though.
6 Brian Allen back with second-team
Allen has worked his way back from a severe leg injury suffered last season, also having to overcome a bout with the coronavirus. Coming down with the virus delayed his rehab by about a month, which was an unfortunate setback for a player fighting to make the team.
He was back in action on Tuesday during team drills, working with the second-team offensive line at center. Austin Blythe has grabbed hold of the starting job in the middle, but it’s still a positive development to see Allen working toward full strength.
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znModeratorRamsFanSince69
Ashawn Robinson Cannot play for 8 weeks
So I looked up what an NFI (non football injury) designation really means from a playing standpoint and here’s what I found
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-football_injury_and_illness
Players on the reserve/non-football injury or reserve/non-football illness lists are ineligible to practice or play in games for the first six weeks of the regular season. After six weeks, a player can begin practicing with their team but cannot be moved to the active roster until after the team has played its first eight games of the season. When a player starts practicing, a three-week window begins in which the player can be moved to the active roster. If a player does not get activated after the three-week window ends, they must remain on the reserve/NFI list for the rest of the season. Only up to two players from the NFI lists are eligible to return to the active roster for each NFL team.[1] NFL teams are not required to pay base salaries to players placed on the reserve/non-football injury or reserve/non-football illness lists
So the minimum for Ashawn is 8 weeks. I got this from Jourdan Rodrique on her 11 Personnel podcast.
znModeratorLMU93
11 Personnel podcast notes
From Jourdan R. and Rich H. I believe this was recorded day before the scrimmage since they did not comment on it or Henderson getting injured.
Terrell Lewis is shockingly big and impressive. Teamed on one side with Donald could be unfair…
Jourdan thinks Rams may have crushed this rookie draft class….
ILB largely Kiser and Howard with the 1s. A good pass rush and coverage can hide any other deficiencies.
Coaches are happy with Floyd. Ebukam looks like he has gained some size.
They are really rotating CB combinations a lot. A lot of versatility in guys that can play safety and CB.
Thinks overall the defense could be very, very good….
OL position battles remain at OG. Testing different combinations and protections so any pocket issues reported should be taken with a grain of salt.
OConnell trying to take over what Goff learned in the spring from QB coach House about being more efficient with the ball and footwork and translate it to camp and practice situations. You have to get comfortable in chaos and being off schedule. There is room for cautious optimism based on the work he has put in and better foundation around him.
Brown leads the RB group in all stretching, drills, etc. Clear also that they are trying to bring Akers along quickly. Part of The Jared Goff Project is reviving the run game.
Consistent rotation at TE with Higbee and Everett.
Van Jefferson has impressed so far but still bringing him along and most first team rotations are still with Reynolds. VJ has been running a full route tree for a while though. Very precise. Goff has a clear comfort level with him.
Woods, Kupp and Jefferson very similar in how they can run any route, get separation, etc. Jefferson not under pressure to put up big numbers as a rookie. Can play situationally and grow from there.
znModeratoramazing story abt how right-wing militia members were able to storm capital, smash glass door, deface public property….and nobody was arrested; https://t.co/7VnoWaDULN
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) August 25, 2020
znModeratorMy guy Doc Rivers – for the win… pic.twitter.com/cNyefukcVD
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) August 26, 2020
znModeratorJust came here to share that news. Some good news, finally.
You know, I should have thought of that, that you would want to do that, and just let you have the posting.
I just saw it and posted it, without thinking beyond that.
Don’t ever, for a second, imagine that I care about that.
That’s Ego stuff. I have no need to be the One who ever…anything.
I don’t care. I just came in to update something I posted which turns out to have jumped the gun. That you beat me to it makes no difference. At least, not to me. No limelight stolen. Don’t care.
Oh I wasn’t thinking about it in terms of ego stuff, or limelight stuff. That kind of thing would never even occur to me. I was thinking about it terms of being close, not just physically, to the issue, and caring. So it was kind of “yours” emotionally. I felt a little dense for not feeling that. Fwiw that’s what I meant. I mean I know it’s no big deal either way.
August 25, 2020 at 7:54 pm in reply to: Rams camp, 2020 … including “At Camp Live” vids w/ Long, Farr, & MJ-D #120014
znModerator10 Observations from the Rams’ Aug. 25 training camp practice
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-aug-25-training-camp-practice
After each practice of Rams Training Camp presented by UNIFY Financial Credit Union, Rams staff writer Stu Jackson will share 10 observations from the session. Here are his notes from Tuesday, Aug. 25.
1) Another clutch play from cornerback Jalen Ramsey in training camp. The former Florida State star nabbed a one-handed interception off a Jared Goff pass intended for rookie wide receiver Van Jefferson in the endzone and ran it all the way back, tossing the ball to defensive tackle Aaron Donald just before the goal line. Donald then somersaulted into the endzone to celebrate.
2) Speaking of Jefferson, he picked up where he left off from Saturday’s scrimmage, getting more reps with the first team offense. He made a nice play during the 2-minute drill portion of practice, hauling in a first down catch from Goff inside the 15 after Goff escaped pressure in the pocket.
3) Goff’s ability to maneuver a collapsing pocket is something he has been working in practice with offensive coordinator Kevin O’Connell, today included.
4) Defensive back Nick Scott had another strong moment in practice today, recording an interception during 11-on-11 drills on a John Wolford pass attempt. Unofficially, it’s his second takeaway of training camp after posting a forced fumble last week.
5) Practice ended with another takeaway by the secondary, as rookie defensive back Tyrique McGhee intercepted a pass in the endzone on the ensuing series after Ramsey’s pick. It was the group’s fourth overall – in addition to Ramsey, McGhee and Scott’s picks, cornerback Adonis Alexander had a fumble recovery at the end of 11-on-11 drills.
6) On a positive note for the offense, Goff and wide receiver Robert Woods were clicking during earlier portions of 11-on-11 work. The two connected for a pair of completions into tight windows, giving Goff enough confidence to try a deep sideline pass to Woods with Ramsey in coverage, though the pass fell incomplete.
7) Overall, it was a good day for the defensive reserves, as indicated by takeaways from Scott, Alexander and McGhee.
8) As some of the observations may indicate, Wolford got quite a bit of work during 11-on-11 drills against starters and reserves. It makes sense, though, as O’Connell said earlier this month that he will get a lot of those types of opportunities.
9) Outside linebacker Terrell Lewis showed off the length of his 6-foot-5 frame, breaking up a Goff pass near the line of scrimmage. during 11-on-11 work.
10) Running back Darrell Henderson Jr. (hamstring) did not participate in practice today. McVay said after practice that he had “no update” on Henderson’s status.
znModerator/Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
No fans will be allowed at SoFi Stadium for Rams and Chargers games “until further notice”Budda Baker probably just drove up John Johnson’s price tag, which only emphasizes the value of having two good rookie safeties on the roster
Jalen Banks@JalenBanksy
I couldn’t imagine the Rams paying for two big secondary contracts to begin with – probably going to be hearing a lot of Burgess and Fuller news this year from the team.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Moment of the day: Jalen Ramsey gets an end zone pick; entire defense, screaming the whole time, blocks for him as he runs it back 100 yards…at the opposite end zone, he flips it to Aaron Donald who, naturally, is right behind him – and Donald flips into the end zone.Is Josh Reynolds slipping with Van Jefferson rising? Or splitting time equally?
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
I don’t think he’s slipping at all – he still has such an advantage of having spent time in the system and they will be used in different ways. Josh took a little more of a vet day today and Van needs the reps because they are onboarding him VERY quickly.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
SJD looks awesome. Samson has a great speed-rush going to complement Leonard Floyd on the other side. Those are the two who really stand out to me at the moment.If Henderson is healthy, I predict a fairly even split between him and Akers at first, with Malcom Brown being sort of in a power role and especially in short-yardage…by the end of the season I think Akers will have more touches than DH, though, and look to both to get plenty of looks in the passing game.
I saw more urgency with the offense than I had last week. My guess is that they got quite the talking-to after the scrimmage on Saturday. Today there were still defensive plays made, but the offense looked sharper and sleeker. I really liked what I saw today because it moved really efficiently! I had one “holy crap” moment when Woods went across the middle twice, and I like how involved Jefferson has been the last couple of days. I haven’t seen a receiving corps with this kind of potential. Crazy underrated.
Y’all, this defense is badass. I’m constantly having “holy crap” moments haha. They are going to be very good.
I haven’t seen a defense as good as this Rams defense in practice in…well, I haven’t seen one. I think the defense as a whole – and yes including safeties – is going to be VERY productive. The scheme is really smart and the guys can play really fast and physically. I don’t necessarily think some of these picks have been on Goff, but it’s tougher to stay clean in camp when the defense knows what is coming.
znModeratorAnd remember – Jacob Blake was shot 7-times in the back – in front of his children… #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/ZQqNVbTKGg
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) August 25, 2020
znModeratorJust came here to share that news. Some good news, finally.
You know, I should have thought of that, that you would want to do that, and just let you have the posting.
I just saw it and posted it, without thinking beyond that.
August 25, 2020 at 12:19 pm in reply to: police culture & training, including former police speak out #120000
znModeratorPolice Brutality at Home: Cops Abuse Wives and Kids at Staggering Rates
It remains an open secret that law enforcement officers abuse wives and children at startling rates.Police violence in undeniable. As Black Lives Matter protests and riots erupt across the nation, video after video shows cops attacking unarmed civilians. In Louisville, David McAtee was murdered by a police officer for protesting the murder of George Floyd by a police officer. But many still believe that police can be trusted to act in the public interest, protecting and serving the innocent. Surely many do, but research into the private lives of cops suggest that belief in the restraint of law enforcement is founded at least in part on faith in men who abuse their wives and children.
Research, slightly outdated and skewed by a culture of silence and intimidation, suggest that police officers in the United States perpetrate acts of domestic violence at roughly 15 times the rate of the general population. Because officers protect their own, domestic victims of violent cops often don’t know where to go. Sometimes they reach out to Alex Roslin, author of Police Wife: The Secret Epidemic of Police Domestic Violence, the American Society of Journalists and Authors-award winning book that constitutes perhaps the only major work on this subject.
“I get emails that would make your hair crawl,” says Roslin, a Canadian freelance journalist who came to the issue two decades ago after a friend working with survivors of abuse informed him police wives and biker gang spouses constituted the bulk of her patient population.
Police abuse, Roslin points out, is an open secret. In 1991, sociologist Leonor Johnson presented to the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, suggesting that 360,000 of the then 900,000 law enforcement officers in the U.S. were likely perpetrating acts of abuse. After a Los Angeles Police Department officer murdered his wife and committed suicide in the late ’90s, a review of domestic abuse allegations brought against officers showed that between 1990 and 1997, 227 alleged cases of domestic violence were brought against police officers, only 91 were sustained and only 4 resulted in conviction of criminal charges. Of the four convictions, only one officer was suspended from duty. He was asked to take three weeks off.
For many, cops remain heroes. But the law enforcement culture lionized by reactionaries is also a culture of silence antithetical to the values of most partners and parents. Fatherly spoke to Alex Roslin about the extent of the problem and why it persists.
The numbers in your book are absolutely shocking. In particularly, the number 15 is shocking. You support the claim that abuse is roughly 15 times more pervasive within police families than in the general population. Where does that come from?
Alex Roslin: The major study here was done by a police officer and a sociologist in Tucson, Arizona, working with a collaborator who had studied domestic violence in military families. It wasn’t by the police department officially. That study found that 40 percent of cops reported having participated in domestic violence in the previous year. The researchers questioned spouses and officers separately with anonymous questions and came up with strikingly similar figures.
An FBI advisory board later found that roughly 40 percent of officers who filled out questionnaires in a number of different settings admitted to being physically violent with their spouse in the previous six months. The general population data for self-reported abuse is closer to 4 percent when people are asked to report on the last 12 months.
The numbers are higher for cops who work night shifts.
It’s worth nothing that the sample sizes are a bit small and that these are older studies. Given the potential scale of the crisis, it’s bizarre that there wouldn’t be more available numbers.
Alex Roslin: The 40 percent number is the closest I could figure while trying to do an apples to apples comparison. We know for sure that the rate of domestic violence among cops from the little data we have is ridiculously high. We know that thanks to research done in part by police officers, some of whom suggest that number might be low. So we wind up with cops being around 15 times more likely to engage in domestic violence than members of the general population. (Editor’s Note: The comparison here is based on 1.5 to 4 percent of U.S. and Canadian women reporting domestic violence by a partner and an estimate that 6 to 14 percent of children are abused each year. These numbers vary because data is based largely on incidents and self-reporting.)
We should consider why the data is nonexistent or decades old. Why is no one looking at a massive issue of public interest? I’ve been working on updating my book for a third edition. Doing research I’ve found 40 examples of cops in the United States murdering their spouses. That’s over just three years.
Is there data available on the children of cops? Is there any reason to believe that abuse doesn’t extend beyond partner violence?
Alex Roslin: Sadly, I’ve seen no data on that, but anecdotally… I’ve heard a lot of stories. It’s not just police partners that face abuse. It’s children. There have been a lot of reports of that and it makes sense.
It’s a broad question, but unavoidable: Why is this happening?
Alex Roslin: Abuse is an open secret among police officers. Many officers claim that it’s the result of a stressful job. But in my research and in talking to domestic violence researchers, it becomes clear that stress doesn’t really cause abuse. There are lots of stressful jobs. Paramedics and surgeons and fire fighters don’t have this kind of problem.
The more honest officers will tell you that policing is a job about control — controlling people and controlling chaotic environments. It attracts people with that mentality and that desire. Not all police officers are the same, but the more authoritarian police officers are the more likely they are to be violent at home.
These men aren’t losing control. They are maintaining control. That’s different.
That’s a disturbing idea because it suggests a strong connection between domestic violence and public violence. Do you see a strong link there?
Alex Roslin: The reality is that police are being put into places in society where they are supposed to be in control, but we have both movements toward recognizing the rights of more groups — notably women and minorities — and also more inequality than ever. Maintaining control in that environment becomes extremely taxing. My fear is that this is trending the wrong way. When police are protecting this kind of status quo, you’re going to see more domestic violence, not less.
The inequalities of society force us to empower police. And that empowerment results in the hiring of abusers. Police domestic violence is a mirror held up to our society. Who polices an unequal and violent society?
Are there causes beyond the desire for control? It feels like that impulse would be tempered by the proximity of… law enforcement officers. Is it not?
Alex Roslin: No. Cops get away with it. Anthony Bouza, a one-time commander in the New York Police Department and former police chief of Minneapolis, said that ‘The Mafia never enforced its code of blood-sworn omerta with the ferocity, efficacy, and enthusiasm the police bring to the Blue Code of Silence.” That’s reflected in rates at which violence is reported and the degree to which there are consequences.
What happens to partners abused by police?
Alex Roslin: In general, these women are terrified. Normally, domestic violence survivors are not in a good place. But these women know the cop has a gun and knows how to commit violence without leaving a mark and they say, “Everyone will think you’re crazy.” And she can’t necessarily go to a shelter because he knows where they are.
Some of these women contact me. I’m a freelance journalist in Canada. I’m happy to do what I can to help, but why is there no one else?
You’re a father. What do you tell your kids about the police? How do you talk to them about law enforcement given what you know and given your work?
Alex Roslin: My daughters know what I do. They know what I’m writing about. My wife has two uncles who are retired officers. We live in a small town and a former police officer is now the mayor and lives down the street. Police officers are humans. At the same time, my kids know that there is a darker side to policing.
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znModeratoron Terrell Lewis
Since arriving at practices, Lewis has joined an outside linebacker rotation that includes projected starters Samson Ebukam and Leonard Floyd, as well as Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Natrez Patrick and Jachai Polite.
“He’s everything and then some more,” Ebukam said about Lewis, emphasizing his length and other physical attributes.
“He’s looked good the last three days in practice and has got a long way to go,” McVay added. “But you definitely see the flashes.”
znModeratorI missed this ugliness from Day 1 of the RNC.
Please watch and listen.
If you ever thought the GOP cared about opioids, and the opioid epidemic wrecking middle America — here is your answer…pic.twitter.com/ryR0u6hqQY
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) August 25, 2020
znModeratorPete Prisco@PriscoCBS
Watch out for the Cardinals this year. Can be a playoff team — even in a tough division.Jon Machota@jonmachota
Cowboys kicker Greg Zuerlein is now 18 for 18 on his field goal attempts in training camp. All have been indoors. He hit today from 33, 37, 40, 42, 44, 46Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Yeah well is his name as fun to pronounce as Lirim Hajrullahu? I think not.=
Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Despite the narrative, safeties are increasingly considered marquee players on defense. Controlling the MOF is one of the top priorities on defense. Safeties w/cover skills, versatility and solid tackling ability in and around the box are game changers.==
Russell Lande@RUSSLANDE
One way you can tell if the football team/organization has issues is when both sides, coaching and personnel, are constantly blaming each other for the lack of success on the field as opposed to working together to address issues that both sides may have to improve.
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams 2020 Season Preview
Eric D. Williams
https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/la-rams-2020-season-preview
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — After missing the playoffs for the first time in three NFL seasons coming off a Super Bowl run, Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay is in prove-it mode — find a way to get back to the big game, and this time win it.
“We didn’t do a good enough last year,” McVay said about his team’s 9-7 record in 2019. “If your standards are anything less than the expectation to try to win every game and do things the right way — with crisp, sharp operation and execution in all phases — I don’t know what we’re spending all this time here for.
“We’re never going to run away from that. We have high expectations and those things don’t change.”
McVay will try and make a deep postseason again with a much different cast. Running back Todd Gurley, receiver Brandin Cooks, safety Eric Weddle, kicker Greg Zuerlein, inside linebacker Cory Littleton and outside linebackers Clay Matthews III and Donte Fowler Jr. are all gone.
How McVay replaces that lost production will go a long way in determining whether his team reaches the postseason again 2020.
Offense
McVay has to get quarterback Jared Goff playing efficient football after he finished with a career-low 86.5 passer rating for a 16-game season and a career-high 16 interceptions in 2019. New offensive coordinator Kevin O’Connell is focused on improving Goff’s footwork, creating improved accuracy and better decision making for the 25-year-old signal caller when the pocket is muddy.
Along with that, the Rams need to run the football more consistently, taking some pressure off Goff. The Rams averaged just 3.7 yards per carry on first down runs last season, No. 28 in the NFL
The addition of second-round selection Cam Akers adds some juice to the run game. At 5-11 and 215 pounds, Akers has a chance to develop into a complete back. Akers is a patient runner in-between the tackles and a natural hands catcher who should immediately contribute in the passing game.
If they can stay healthy, the Rams should be better up front offensively. During the team’s Super Bowl run, all five starters along the offensive line played all 16 games. However, last season the Rams played five different offensive line combinations, resulting in uneven play.
Defense
New defensive coordinator Brandon Staley, a protégé of longtime NFL defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, is tasked with improving a defense that allowed 23 points per game last season.
Fangio has two talented pieces to build around — who many NFL observers consider the best defensive player in the game in defensive tackle Aaron Donald and Pro Bowl cornerback Jalen Ramsey.
Expect both players to move around the field more. Donald played a career-high 121 snaps at defensive end last season and could be out there even more in 2020.
And Ramsey should be allowed to spread his wings and use his unique skill set, lining up as an outside corner, slot defender and at times safety depending on the weekly matchup.
The key for Staley will be replacing last year’s leading tackler Littleton in the middle of the defense and finding consistent, outside pass rush.
Count safety John Johnson as a believer the Rams’ defense can be even better than Staley’s previous stops as an outside linebackers coach with the Denver Broncos and Chicago Bears.
“In the past, Coach Staley came from Denver, and he came from Chicago,” Johnson said. “I think we have better guys on defense than he had in both of those places. So just picture what they were doing, but with better guys.”
Predicted record
10-6: Football Outsiders has the Rams at an 8.4-win projection with a 48 percent chance of making the playoffs. Part of the reasoning for the bullish prediction is a roster that still has talented players on both sides of the ball led by a young, dynamic coach who generally gets the most out of his team. Even though they play in perhaps the toughest division in football in the NFC West, the Rams have a pretty soft schedule, facing he AFC East and NFC East this season.
Expected depth chart
Offense (West Coast)
Quarterback: Jared Goff
Running back: Cam Akers, Malcolm Brown
Wide Receivers: Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp
Tight ends: Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett
Left tackle: Andrew Whitworth
Left guard: Joe Noteboom
Center: Austin Blythe
Right guard: Austin Corbett
Right tackle: Rob HavensteinDefense (3-4)
Outside linebacker: Leonard Floyd
Outside linebacker: Samson Ebukam
Defensive tackle: Aaron Donald
Nose tackle: Sebastian Joseph-Day
Defensive end: Michael Brokers
Inside linebacker: Micah Kiser
Inside linebacker: Travin Howard
Left cornerback: Jalen Ramsey
Right cornerback: Troy Hill
Strong safety: Taylor Rapp
Free safety: John Johnson IIISpecialty
Kicker: Lirim Hajrullahu
Punter: Johnny Hekker
Long snapper: Jake McQuaide
Kick/Punt returner: Nsimba Webster -
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