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znModeratorThis is a jaw-dropping read. https://t.co/rrq5dzUB1X
— Tim Miller (@Timodc) July 30, 2020
znModeratorPlayers will be added to the COVID list today, as veterans get their results. What does it mean? As Dr. Allen Sills told RapSheet + Friends: "When players and coaches get those first round of tests, that’s not really reflective of our NFL environment.” https://t.co/wa7EOLwxgW
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 30, 2020
znModeratorThe president’s campaign has aired 63,000 ads about crime and zero ads about coronavirus this month. https://t.co/B4f76EuKoY
— HuffPost (@HuffPost) July 30, 2020
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
The Panthers cut Graham Gano today and the Rams need a kicker (but don’t have much money).Surprised by how many fans are confident in three kickers who have never FG in the NFL.
Not to mention, the Rams felt the need to bring in THREE kickers for a competition.
znModeratorBills’ rookies were sent home after a fifth one tested positive for coronavirus.https://t.co/Q11WYNGxYx
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) July 30, 2020
znModeratorMarshall Faulks last 100+ total yardage game. Week 15, 2005 season. Even in his final year, Faulk showed glimpses of what made him a first ballot hall of famer. In year 12 #28 still has the vision and burst to move the sticks @marshallfaulk pic.twitter.com/B6WWHNioHv
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) July 30, 2020
znModeratorI don’t think the withdrawal of fed troops has anything to do at all with the public’s negative reaction to their presence and actions. In fact I think it plays right into Trump’s playbook: “see we stopped the leftist socialist thugs and now were moving on to protect the rule of law in Chicago”, etc.
Right now, IMO, the continued protests do not help the BLM movement or Biden. Indeed, they are and will become a negative force. The ass-hole in the WH knows this.
You seem to be conflating “law and order issues” with “continued protests.” The protests are continuing all over the country, W, they just don’t get the same press the Portland/Seattle type violent conflicts do. I mean if you don’t want the law and order thing to gain ground, it helps if you don’t do the protests=riots equivalence thing yourself. That would be YOU falling for the law and order message.
In terms of portraying Portland as a win and that being the reason for the withdrawal, I haven’t seen that message. It looks like they are playing the withdrawal down in fact.
znModeratorIn my 7.27 MAQB, we've got lots of detail on the NFL's very stringent travel protocol. On the road, for team personnel …
• No hotel gym.
• No Ubers.
• No restaurants/bars.Got a whole lot more on that here (an an example from the memo below): https://t.co/voto4sUTQy pic.twitter.com/qXEKmF2GPF
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) July 28, 2020
znModeratorThe Vikings say VP of Sports Medicine/head athletic trainer Eric Sugarman, @EricSugarATC, the team’s Infection Control Officer in the battle against COVID-19, has tested positive for the virus.
— Peter King (@peter_king) July 27, 2020
znModeratorGeoff Schwartz@geoffschwartz
I’ve said this for weeks. Athletes have to take extra responsibility to avoid places that are Covid hot spots. 99% will. That 1% could ruin the return of football.==
Wrapping up the “Double Coverage” podcast on Sunday night, veteran Patriots CB Jason McCourty shared his thoughts as players begin to report to Gillette Stadium today for COVID testing.
Acknowledging he didn’t want to be negative, here is why he is nervous: pic.twitter.com/jS2kJ1ASPE
— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) July 27, 2020
znModeratorOf course I know, you only say that because the Deep State has mixed liquefied sheep brains in with the fluoridated water in Maine.
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vYou shouldn’t knock local foods from other places till you’ve tried them.
znModeratorThe outbreak that shut down the Rutgers football program apparently traces to players attending an on-campus party a/k/a good luck this season, college football https://t.co/9na86QqS4q
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 30, 2020
znModeratorBreaking:
Donald J. Trump has traded Dr. Anthony Fauci (changed medicine in America forever Re: AIDS virus) for Dr. Stella Immanuel.
Which of these 12 Dr. Immanuel claims is your favorite?
Mine is 8. Everything is just fine America… pic.twitter.com/ITFcEK7LVC
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) July 29, 2020
znModeratorI think to understand it, one has to think about Corporate-Capitalism. And the Corporate-Capitalist Education System. And the Corporate-Capitalist-Media. And ‘Advertising.’ And ‘Marketing.’ And ‘Public Relations.’ And Political Campaigns in a Corporate-Capitalist system. And ‘lobbying.’ And cover-ups and injustice. All of it.
Ironically a lot of that comes from people who believe they are actually resisting “the system” when they have actually misidentified the target.
znModeratorI think its very fluid right now. We dont really know for Sure, what all those white middle-class people in Swing States think of this stuff.
The ‘fluidity’ of it all makes me nervous. What if those Federal Storm-Troopers piss off some wacko-teen-‘leftist’ who then goes out and blows up a building. Ya know. The Law And Order thing is Trumps best chance. Now, it ‘looks like’ maybe he overplayed his hand. But…its fluid.
We’re just talking about completely different things.
You are focused on the election. I am not. It’s too soon for that. Here’s what I said in this thread about that:
I’m saying it DID. It DID tilt against him.
But memory is short and so maybe that dissipates.
So nothing I am saying today has anything to do with the election. It’s waaaaaaay too soon for that.
So what AM I talking about?
Now. Sending the Feds to Portland backfired on Trump which is why he withdrew them.
Perceptions. The protests are not being hijacked by “rioters,” they are being hijacked by people who call them riots.
Portland. We’re scrambling around arguing over who said what about Portland AND that completely ignores and to an extent erases the actual history of conflict in Portland. So for example if you actually read the quoted NAACP guy on the situation, he’s not just doing this number where he says it plays into Trump’s hands. He has a much more complex, history based point than that, and IF we do not want to obscure what he is ACTUALLY saying, it behooves us to read it. That’s why I posted the article from the Guardian I linked. It had nothing to do with “the election.” It had to do with us debating Portland based on his words without us actually understanding what he is saying. Which in its own minor way repeats the very thing we are complaining about–hijacking.
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znModeratorBesides a lot of this is overlooking actual Portland history when it comes to racial issues.
I put this article in the Portland thread and I think it’s a must read if you’re interested in these issues.
ARTICLE: White as hell’: Portland protesters face off with Trump but are they eclipsing Black Lives Matter?
On another night of confrontation with federal agents, activists said their message was in danger of being forgottenTHREAD: Portland, Oregon … protests & policing: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/the-nation-w-leaked-document-on-the-oregon-secret-policing/#post-118620
znModerator‘White as hell’: Portland protesters face off with Trump but are they eclipsing Black Lives Matter?
On another night of confrontation with federal agents, activists said their message was in danger of being forgottenTeal Lindseth surveyed the sea of mothers she was about to lead into the firing line.
“I look at this crowd and I don’t see many black people,” lamented the 21-year-old African American activist. “Oregon is white as hell. Whitewashed.”
Lindseth has been a stalwart of the Black Lives Matter protests that have continued for nearly 60 days without interruption in a city that was derided as “Little Beirut” over the intensity of its demonstrations against a visit by George HW Bush four decades ago.
Portland has cemented that reputation in the Trump era, as the protests evolved into nightly showdowns with federal paramilitaries sent by the president to end what he described as anarchy.
But Portland has another reputation alongside its radical image. That of the whitest large city in America in a state with a constitution that once barred African Americans from living there. An 1850s law required black people to be “lashed” once a year to encourage them to leave Oregon, and members of the Ku Klux Klan largely controlled Portland city council between the world wars. Housing was effectively segregated in large parts of the city.
Many of today’s protesters say their support for racial justice in a city where the police department has a history of disproportionately killing African Americans is driven at least in part by an attempt to atone for Oregon’s racist past. But as Portland’s battles play out on the national stage, and Donald Trump stokes unrest for political advantage, some black leaders are asking whose interests the televised nightly confrontations really serve – and whether they are a continuation of white domination at the expense of black interests.
The president of the Portland branch of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), ED Mondainé, warned that the Black Lives Matter movement in the city is being coopted by “privileged white people” with other agendas. He said the confrontations with the federal officers sent by the president are little more than a “spectacle and a distraction that do nothing for the cause of black equality”.
Mondainé accused groups of young white people at the forefront of confronting federal officers of rising to Trump’s bait and using the campaign against racial injustice to provoke a fight in pursuit of other causes, such as anti-capitalism.
“The children of the privileged are dancing on the stages of those that gave their lives for this movement,” he told the Guardian.
Trump’s dispatch of a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) taskforce reinvigorated the protests in Portland as federal agents in camouflage snatched protesters off the streets in unmarked vans and severely beat others.
Outrage in the city, and nationally, at what smacked of police state tactics only fuelled the demonstrations, which did not displease the president. Trump presented the pictures of protesters in helmets and gas masks confronting federal agents as evidence of a city overrun by anarchists and antifa, and the Democrats as either helpless or complicit in the chaos.
Trump raised the ante by vowing to send a “surge” of federal forces to other Democratic-run cities such as Chicago, ostensibly to quell gun killings. He said Operation Legend, named after a four year-old boy shot dead in Kansas City, would see thousands of agents from the FBI, US Marshals Service and other agencies deployed to end a “rampage of violence”.
The mayors of Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta and 11 other cities wrote to the administration on Tuesday, accusing the president of an abuse of power and alleging that “federal law enforcement is being deployed for political purposes” amid suspicions that Trump is more interested in creating conflict than ending it in the run-up to the election.
“Unilaterally deploying these paramilitary-type forces into our cities is wholly inconsistent with our system of democracy and our most basic values,” they wrote.
The mayors also said they were disturbed at the actions of federal agents in Portland, calling their failure to wear proper identification and the snatching of protesters off the streets “chilling”.
“These are tactics we expect from an authoritarian regime – not our democracy,” the letter said.
Mondainé, who led a rally on Thursday evening to “bring back the focus” on to Black Lives Matter, said “empty battles” were serving Trump’s agenda because the president creates political theatre for electoral advantage. He said Trump is baiting protesters in Portland to light the fuse on a racist backlash across the country before the presidential election.
“We have to change that narrative. We cannot let teargas and rubber bullets define the moment that we’re in now. We must seize the moment and assure the world that this time racism will no longer live,” he said.
A dark stain
Mondainé and other black leaders want to shift the focus of protests in Portland back to one of the enduring legacies of Oregon’s racist past – reform of a police department with a long history of violence against the supposedly liberal city’s relatively small black population, and which has seen a sharp rise in the killing of African American men since Trump came to power.
African Americans make up just 6% of Portland’s 650,000 residents but accounted for 30% of shootings by police over the past three years. Black people were also several times more times likely to be arrested or stopped. The police department has proved so trigger happy that the Obama administration placed it under federal court oversight, although it sidestepped the issue of race in doing so.
But African Americans in Portland remain sceptical that the city or the police department are committed to change, particularly when officers are accused of siding with far-right groups such as the Proud Boys who regularly use the city as a platform for protests knowing it will create a backlash.
Accusations that the force tolerates neo-fascist sympathies are not new. Critics regard the case of Mark Kruger as a particularly dark stain on the police department and city government.
In about 2000, the then Portland police sergeant built a shrine in a public park to five Nazi soldiers including a member of Hitler’s SS and a war criminal. Kruger nailed plaques with their names to what he called an “Ehrenbaum” or honour tree. They were positioned so he could see them from the road when driving to work as a police officer, and he kept them polished.
The shrine remained in the park for several years until Kruger removed it when he was the target of federal lawsuits for use of excessive force against anti-Iraq war protestors. Portland attorney’s office stored the plaques until they were discovered years later by an internal affairs investigator.
That led to an investigation which concluded Kruger brought “discredit and disgrace” upon Portland police and the city. But he kept his job after a brief unpaid suspension for illegally posting the plaques on public property, and was later promoted to captain and head of the vice squad.
Kruger admitted wearing Nazi uniforms but said it was because of his interest in history. He said the plaques were to honour the Germans’ military prowess not their crimes against humanity.
“Many military historians have erected similar remembrances all over the world,” he claimed at the time.
He remained a captain in the police department until his recent retirement.
People pressing for police reform saw Kruger’s continued employment and promotion as a reflection of the values of a police department with a reputation for brutality. The Obama justice department finally intervened over the level of police shootings in Portland, prompted by the case of Aaron Campbell in 2010.
The young black man’s brother had died earlier in the day. Campbell’s family feared he might be suicidal and called the police. The officers who went to check on him quickly established that he was not a threat to himself or anyone else, and even exchanged a lighthearted text message that put everyone at ease. But a second police unit arrived as Campbell emerged from a building. They shot him with a bean bag.
When he instinctively reached for where he had been hit, officers said he was going for a gun and shot him dead. Campbell was unarmed.
The civil rights leader Jesse Jackson called Campbell’s killing “an execution”. A Portland grand jury said the officer who shot him acted within the law but that did not mean he was innocent.
“This was very difficult for us as a grand jury, as our sympathies lie with the Campbell family and the mood of the community. As a group, we are outraged at what happened,” the grand jury said in a letter to the district attorney. The city paid Campbell’s family $1.2m.
The Obama administration demanded reforms and placed the police department under federal court oversight in 2014. But in a move some critics suspected was to save Portland’s Democratic leadership from embarrassment, the justice department said Campbell had been shot because the police had a pattern of using excessive force against people with mental health problems, not because he was black. Campbell’s family disagreed.
‘An often tense relationship’
A justice department report found “a pattern of dangerous uses of force against persons who posed little or no threat” but who had mental illness. These include the case of a 42-year-old local musician with schizophrenia, James Chasse, who was shot multiple times with a taser and beaten so badly by the police he had a punctured lung, 16 fractured ribs and 26 broken bones in all. He died in custody.
In another case, Portland police repeatedly tasered a naked and unarmed man who was acting oddly because he was suffering a diabetic emergency.
Although the justice department sidestepped a full investigation of racism by the Portland police, it did note “the often tense relationship” between the force and the African American community. It said there was a widespread perception among black people of racial profiling and that the police “protect the white folk and police the black folk”.
Dan Handelman of Portland Copwatch, which monitors police killings, said eight years of justice department oversight has not fundamentally changed how the Portland police act because, while the agreement between the city and the federal government requires new policies and training, it does not measure whether they are successful.
“If the Portland police continue to use violence against the general public, they’re still in compliance with that agreement. Have some changes have been made? Yes. But does it did it get at the root problems and the issues that people were worried about the first place? Not at all,” he said.
Handelman said that if anything, the situation has worsened.
“We had not actually had a shooting death of an African American Portlander by the police between early 2010 and February of 2017, which is rather remarkable. A seven-year stretch with no black man being killed. Since then, there have been at least five shootings of African Americans, and four of them died,” he said.
“For me, part of that is the national situation that we’re in. That the election of President Trump kind of ripped the Band-Aid off of the racism that was bubbling under the surface of the country for a very long time.”
The police response to protests in Portland after the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May reinforced the perception that the force was resistant to change and raised questions about accountability.
In recent days, Portland’s mayor, Ted Wheeler, has made a show on national television of denouncing Trump’s deployment of federal forces, accusing the president of conducting “urban warfare” in his city. But when Wheeler turned out to speak at a protest on Wednesday, he faced hostility from demonstrators who accused him of hypocrisy.
The mayor is also the city’s police commissioner. In May, Wheeler declared a state of emergency amid escalating protests over Floyd’s death which saw storefronts smashed and some looted. Critics accused the police of overreacting by being too quick to fire teargas to break up demonstrations until a federal judge barred its use except where the police declare a riot.
When Wheeler arrived at Wednesday’s demonstration, a protester emptied a bag of spent teargas canisters at his feet as others peppered him with questions and accusations about his oversight of the police. Later, the mayor faced a barrage of derision after he denounced federal agents for an unprovoked firing of teargas that left him gasping for breath.
Teressa Raiford, the African American founder of Don’t Shoot Portland, accused the mayor of using the presence of the federal agents as cover for his own failure to address police reform.
“Our leaders now say: ‘Donald Trump’s attacking you and we care about you’. But the people on the front line realise we were being attacked by them before Donald Trump started attacking us,” he said. “They’re trying to claim that they stand as allies with the protesters. It is political. What you’re seeing with the mayor being sprayed with teargas, that is political propaganda.”
Raiford said Portland’s political leadership did not care to substantially change the system of policing because much of the city was comfortable with policies that, as the justice department noted, protect whites and police blacks.
‘All these liberal cities have extreme inequality’
The failure of so many American cities run by Democrats to address reform of racially biased policing hangs over Democratic political leaderships that claim to support the Black Lives Matters campaign.
Hyung Nam, who has been closely observing police reform as a member of a city committee that advises on how the police budget is spent, said the lack of political will reflects economic realities.
“All these liberal cities have extreme inequality, economic inequality, and there’s a major racial dimension to that. As long as we have that kind of economic inequality we’re going to see some form of policing like this,” he said.
Nam said there is a pattern of more prosperous whites gentrifying black Portland neighbourhoods and then demanding increased policing which often makes the remaining African American residents feel insecure.
“Just the other day when I was testifying at the city council, there were people from the Irvington neighbourhood complaining to the council about homeless people that were engaged in illicit activities and basically calling for the cops to do something, which means criminalise them and sweep them somewhere.
“This is what’s happening in all these Democratic liberal cities. Inequality has grown enormously and the way we’re dealing with that is through tougher policing.”
However, Nam thinks that the scale of popular protest over Floyd’s death may finally have pushed the administration to get serious about reform including “significant” cuts to the police budget for its paramilitary teams and enforcing proper civilian oversight.
For now though, attention in and on Portland remains focused on the nightly theatre outside the federal courthouse – and where Trump will target next.
znModeratorI dunno zn. I dunno. I am not sure why you are so confident the Portland thing will tilt against Mr. Law And Order.
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vI’m saying it DID. It DID tilt against him.
But memory is short and so maybe that dissipates.
I think the NAACP might disagree with you. Here is a quote from the Guardian”
“The NAACP in Portland warned that the Black Lives Matter movement was being co-opted by “privileged white people” pursuing other agendas, such as anti-capitalism. It said they were playing into Trumps hands by provoking nightly confrontations with the federal forces”.
I understand their fears and concerns but it is nevertheless the case that they are factually incorrect about the present moment and the effect the Feds being there has had (something your quotation simply does not mention).
That may have been the case before the Feds arrived–meaning, that the more disruptive militant prostesters hurt the cause–but once the Feds did arrive, and played things with a heavy hand (including attacking peaceful protesters like the Portland Moms), it backfired on Trump.
Which is why the Federal guys on the ground agreed to withdraw (under orders no doubt–they would not decide that on their own). In spite of all the blustering rhetoric from Washington, including the “not on my watch” talk from the director of Homeland Security, they agreed to withdraw. Why? It backfired on Trump.
It’s not hard to find the evidence of that.
according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll…[from] July 27-28…52% of American adults say they are sympathetic to those who are still gathering to protest the police treatment of minorities, especially African Americans…a majority of Americans remain unhappy with the way [Trump] has responded. The poll showed 54% of Americans disapprove of Trump’s handling of the protests. … Nearly nine out of 10 Democrats say they do not like the way Trump is dealing with the protests, and that has not changed over since June. … And 42% of Americans appeared to be suspicious of Trump’s motives related to his decision to send federal police into cities, saying that those agents were being deployed mostly “to further Trump’s political agenda.” Another 39% said the agents are “restoring law and order in major U.S. cities”
znModeratorSean Hannity@seanhannity
Did The NFL Just Declare War On The Church?Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
Yes Sean. It’s horrible. Players can’t attend church services if above 25 percent capacity!! The @NFL
also declared war on nightcoubs, bars, concerts, pro sports events and attending or hosting house parties with more than 15 people!! It’s a full on war!! (You can’t be serious)Ezzy Dicker@EzzyDicker
Are you actually comparing churchs to nightclubs? Are you comparing what certain players get out of church to what players get out of partying?Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
I am not. You are missing the point entirely.Sean cherry picked one part of a long list of things the NFL is telling players not to do this season in dealing with Covid. Sean wants to make it look like the NFL is against players going to church.
Which, you’d have to be brain dead to actually believe.
The truth is, as part of the covid-19 protocol in place for this season, the NFL is asking players to not do anything that might include a big gathering of people.
Among them: Nightclubs, bars, concerts, pro sports events and church services in which there is more than 25 percent capacity. Sean is counting on people not knowing all the details. He wanted you to believe the NFL was being anti church.
By the way: Most sports teams have a team Chaplin that conducts a service befor every game. All players are welcome. From both teams.
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znModeratorSteve Ramirez@SteveRRamirez
Hey Rich_Hammond I have a question that just popped into my head. If the NFL season is not played due to virus concerns, what happens to the 2021 NFL Draft and how is the order figured out?Rich Hammond@Rich_Hammond
They’d have to make up something, basically. In 2005, after the NHL season got wiped out, they basically did a “weighted” order based on results of the previous couple seasons.==
ALBERT BREER, from https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/29/mailbag-patriots-opt-outs-move-super-bowl
Duncan McLean (@TheRealDunx): If the season is canceled but the draft in 2021 went ahead, how would the NFL decide the draft order?
AB: We’re gonna wrap up with two questions I got on the podcast, and that I’ve gotten a lot, that I feel like are worth answering twice. Duncan, the easy answer would be to keep the draft order the same—but I don’t think that’d be fair, to reward Cincinnati and Washington and Detroit and the Giants twice for being bad once. So, as I did earlier in the offseason, to come up with an idea here, I went back to the one applicable piece of sports history I could find.
You may remember that the NHL lockout wiped out the entire ’04-’05 season, and that meant having a 2005 draft without standings to build a draft order off of. So the NHL got creative, and built a weighted lottery for the equation, and assigned team lottery ping-pong balls according to it. Here’s how it worked.
Three balls: Teams that had not made the playoffs in the previous three seasons or held the first overall pick in the previous four seasons.
Two balls: Teams that had one playoff appearance or first overall pick over that time.
One ball: All other teams.
If you ran this for 2020, then the Bucs, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Dolphins, Giants, Lions and Washington would all get three ping-pong balls; the Browns, Cardinals, Bengals, Chargers,
Colts, Steelers, Jaguars, 49ers, Packers, Bears, Cowboys, Panthers and Falcons would have two ping-pong balls; and the other 11 teams would have one.
Now, does it seem unfair that it’d be done this way with a generational quarterback prospect like Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence on the board? Maybe. But in 2005, the NHL basically had its equivalent to that, in Sidney Crosby. So, three Penguin Stanley Cups later, obviously, this wouldn’t be unprecedented in sports.
Gerry Levine (@gerrylev): If there is no college football season how will that affect evaluating players for next year’s draft?
AB: Another good question here, Gerry, and one that, when I was doing the podcast, I went back in recent history to research. Honestly, my first instinct is to say losing a full college football season would affect the draft a lot. But after looking back at last year, I’m less sure of that, at least when it comes to the top of the draft.
Now, there’s no question that the first pick would not have been the same in 2020, if there was no 2019 college season—Joe Burrow’s ascent from probable third- or fourth-round pick to slam dunk No. 1 makes that undeniable. But as for the rest of the Top 10, honestly, I feel like the NFL had a pretty good idea on who Chase Young, Jeff Okudah, Andrew Thomas, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Derrick Brown, Isaiah Simmons, C.J. Henderson and Jedrick Wills were well before they did anything on the field last fall.
Once you get past the elite group, there, obviously, would be more variance. Also, the decisions players have to make on going pro would become more complicated, as would the process of vetting them (given access for scouts almost certainly won’t be the same during this draft cycle). So there’d definitely be an impact.
July 29, 2020 at 11:15 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #118612
znModeratorHis girlfriend was struggling with her hair loss from alopecia.
Get out the tissues.
Humanity.🌎❤️ pic.twitter.com/EikwKnlACo
— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) July 29, 2020
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothers
Aaron Donald since entering the league…
• 2nd in sacks
• 1st in QB hits
• 1st in TFL
• 1st in pressure rate
• 1st in pass-rush win rate
• 1st in total pressures
znModeratorToo 10 Players in the #NFL100:
1. Lamar Jackson
2. Russell Wilson
3. Aaron Donald
4. Patrick Mahomes
5. Michael Thomas
6. Christian McCaffrey
7. George Kittle
8. DeAndre Hopkins
9. Stephon Gilmore
10. Derrick Henry— Field Yates (@FieldYates) July 30, 2020
Paradoxically, this feels like even greater praise for AD99 than being voted No. 1 last year (after smashing records, winning Defensive PoY, NFC title).
But coming off 9-7, given the offensive — and especially QB — talent?
No. 3 for an interior defender speaks volumes. https://t.co/px3alPZ2JP
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) July 30, 2020
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znModeratorIdk guys this top 100 thing might not be that accurate https://t.co/Bk3Tj33v9M
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) July 30, 2020
znModeratorMy God pic.twitter.com/lQa1OICgnQ
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) July 30, 2020
znModeratorI dunno zn. I dunno. I am not sure why you are so confident the Portland thing will tilt against Mr. Law And Order.
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vI’m saying it DID. It DID tilt against him.
But memory is short and so maybe that dissipates.
znModerator“A destructive history, once it is understood as such, is a nearly insupportable burden. Understanding it is a disease of understanding, depleting the sense of efficacy and paralyzing effort, unless it finds healing work.” Wendell Berry
That’s a great quotation.
Hope you’re doing well.
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znModeratorThe point is this is what the public is seeing. I fully understand that it isn’t what the reality is. Nevertheless it fits exactly what Trump wants the public to see and think. With the Feds leaving it also fits his scheme: “see this is how to gain control” of a bunch of leftist thugs”. No one can argue what is happening in Portland helps Biden.
Well again Portland anyway is backfiring. You had unmarked cars dragging protesters off the street for interrogation, and you had Feds attacking Portland Moms. That did not play well.
I know the media want it to look entirely like riots, but, Trump overplayed his hand. He also overplayed his hand in Washington when the streets were cleared so he could walk out and wave a bible. That backfired too.
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