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znModeratoramazing story abt how right-wing militia members were able to storm capital, smash glass door, deface public property….and nobody was arrested; https://t.co/7VnoWaDULN
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) August 25, 2020
znModeratorMy guy Doc Rivers – for the win… pic.twitter.com/cNyefukcVD
— Rex Chapmanđđź (@RexChapman) August 26, 2020
znModeratorJust came here to share that news. Some good news, finally.
You know, I should have thought of that, that you would want to do that, and just let you have the posting.
I just saw it and posted it, without thinking beyond that.
Donât ever, for a second, imagine that I care about that.
Thatâs Ego stuff. I have no need to be the One who everâŚanything.
I donât care. I just came in to update something I posted which turns out to have jumped the gun. That you beat me to it makes no difference. At least, not to me. No limelight stolen. Donât care.
Oh I wasn’t thinking about it in terms of ego stuff, or limelight stuff. That kind of thing would never even occur to me. I was thinking about it terms of being close, not just physically, to the issue, and caring. So it was kind of “yours” emotionally. I felt a little dense for not feeling that. Fwiw that’s what I meant. I mean I know it’s no big deal either way.
August 25, 2020 at 7:54 pm in reply to: Rams camp, 2020 … including “At Camp Live” vids w/ Long, Farr, & MJ-D #120014
znModerator10 Observations from the Rams’ Aug. 25 training camp practice
Stu Jackson
https://www.therams.com/news/10-observations-aug-25-training-camp-practice
After each practice of Rams Training Camp presented by UNIFY Financial Credit Union, Rams staff writer Stu Jackson will share 10 observations from the session. Here are his notes from Tuesday, Aug. 25.
1) Another clutch play from cornerback Jalen Ramsey in training camp. The former Florida State star nabbed a one-handed interception off a Jared Goff pass intended for rookie wide receiver Van Jefferson in the endzone and ran it all the way back, tossing the ball to defensive tackle Aaron Donald just before the goal line. Donald then somersaulted into the endzone to celebrate.
2) Speaking of Jefferson, he picked up where he left off from Saturday’s scrimmage, getting more reps with the first team offense. He made a nice play during the 2-minute drill portion of practice, hauling in a first down catch from Goff inside the 15 after Goff escaped pressure in the pocket.
3) Goff’s ability to maneuver a collapsing pocket is something he has been working in practice with offensive coordinator Kevin O’Connell, today included.
4) Defensive back Nick Scott had another strong moment in practice today, recording an interception during 11-on-11 drills on a John Wolford pass attempt. Unofficially, it’s his second takeaway of training camp after posting a forced fumble last week.
5) Practice ended with another takeaway by the secondary, as rookie defensive back Tyrique McGhee intercepted a pass in the endzone on the ensuing series after Ramsey’s pick. It was the group’s fourth overall â in addition to Ramsey, McGhee and Scott’s picks, cornerback Adonis Alexander had a fumble recovery at the end of 11-on-11 drills.
6) On a positive note for the offense, Goff and wide receiver Robert Woods were clicking during earlier portions of 11-on-11 work. The two connected for a pair of completions into tight windows, giving Goff enough confidence to try a deep sideline pass to Woods with Ramsey in coverage, though the pass fell incomplete.
7) Overall, it was a good day for the defensive reserves, as indicated by takeaways from Scott, Alexander and McGhee.
8) As some of the observations may indicate, Wolford got quite a bit of work during 11-on-11 drills against starters and reserves. It makes sense, though, as O’Connell said earlier this month that he will get a lot of those types of opportunities.
9) Outside linebacker Terrell Lewis showed off the length of his 6-foot-5 frame, breaking up a Goff pass near the line of scrimmage. during 11-on-11 work.
10) Running back Darrell Henderson Jr. (hamstring) did not participate in practice today. McVay said after practice that he had “no update” on Henderson’s status.
znModerator/Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
No fans will be allowed at SoFi Stadium for Rams and Chargers games âuntil further notice”Budda Baker probably just drove up John Johnsonâs price tag, which only emphasizes the value of having two good rookie safeties on the roster
Jalen Banks@JalenBanksy
I couldnât imagine the Rams paying for two big secondary contracts to begin with – probably going to be hearing a lot of Burgess and Fuller news this year from the team.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Moment of the day: Jalen Ramsey gets an end zone pick; entire defense, screaming the whole time, blocks for him as he runs it back 100 yards…at the opposite end zone, he flips it to Aaron Donald who, naturally, is right behind him – and Donald flips into the end zone.Is Josh Reynolds slipping with Van Jefferson rising? Or splitting time equally?
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
I don’t think he’s slipping at all – he still has such an advantage of having spent time in the system and they will be used in different ways. Josh took a little more of a vet day today and Van needs the reps because they are onboarding him VERY quickly.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
SJD looks awesome. Samson has a great speed-rush going to complement Leonard Floyd on the other side. Those are the two who really stand out to me at the moment.If Henderson is healthy, I predict a fairly even split between him and Akers at first, with Malcom Brown being sort of in a power role and especially in short-yardage…by the end of the season I think Akers will have more touches than DH, though, and look to both to get plenty of looks in the passing game.
I saw more urgency with the offense than I had last week. My guess is that they got quite the talking-to after the scrimmage on Saturday. Today there were still defensive plays made, but the offense looked sharper and sleeker. I really liked what I saw today because it moved really efficiently! I had one “holy crap” moment when Woods went across the middle twice, and I like how involved Jefferson has been the last couple of days. I haven’t seen a receiving corps with this kind of potential. Crazy underrated.
Y’all, this defense is badass. I’m constantly having “holy crap” moments haha. They are going to be very good.
I haven’t seen a defense as good as this Rams defense in practice in…well, I haven’t seen one. I think the defense as a whole – and yes including safeties – is going to be VERY productive. The scheme is really smart and the guys can play really fast and physically. I don’t necessarily think some of these picks have been on Goff, but it’s tougher to stay clean in camp when the defense knows what is coming.
znModeratorAnd remember – Jacob Blake was shot 7-times in the back – in front of his children… #BlackLivesMatter pic.twitter.com/ZQqNVbTKGg
— Rex Chapmanđđź (@RexChapman) August 25, 2020
znModeratorJust came here to share that news. Some good news, finally.
You know, I should have thought of that, that you would want to do that, and just let you have the posting.
I just saw it and posted it, without thinking beyond that.
August 25, 2020 at 12:19 pm in reply to: police culture & training, including former police speak out #120000
znModeratorPolice Brutality at Home: Cops Abuse Wives and Kids at Staggering Rates
It remains an open secret that law enforcement officers abuse wives and children at startling rates.Police violence in undeniable. As Black Lives Matter protests and riots erupt across the nation, video after video shows cops attacking unarmed civilians. In Louisville, David McAtee was murdered by a police officer for protesting the murder of George Floyd by a police officer. But many still believe that police can be trusted to act in the public interest, protecting and serving the innocent. Surely many do, but research into the private lives of cops suggest that belief in the restraint of law enforcement is founded at least in part on faith in men who abuse their wives and children.
Research, slightly outdated and skewed by a culture of silence and intimidation, suggest that police officers in the United States perpetrate acts of domestic violence at roughly 15 times the rate of the general population. Because officers protect their own, domestic victims of violent cops often donât know where to go. Sometimes they reach out to Alex Roslin, author of Police Wife: The Secret Epidemic of Police Domestic Violence, the American Society of Journalists and Authors-award winning book that constitutes perhaps the only major work on this subject.
âI get emails that would make your hair crawl,â says Roslin, a Canadian freelance journalist who came to the issue two decades ago after a friend working with survivors of abuse informed him police wives and biker gang spouses constituted the bulk of her patient population.
Police abuse, Roslin points out, is an open secret. In 1991, sociologist Leonor Johnson presented to the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, suggesting that 360,000 of the then 900,000 law enforcement officers in the U.S. were likely perpetrating acts of abuse. After a Los Angeles Police Department officer murdered his wife and committed suicide in the late â90s, a review of domestic abuse allegations brought against officers showed that between 1990 and 1997, 227 alleged cases of domestic violence were brought against police officers, only 91 were sustained and only 4 resulted in conviction of criminal charges. Of the four convictions, only one officer was suspended from duty. He was asked to take three weeks off.
For many, cops remain heroes. But the law enforcement culture lionized by reactionaries is also a culture of silence antithetical to the values of most partners and parents. Fatherly spoke to Alex Roslin about the extent of the problem and why it persists.
The numbers in your book are absolutely shocking. In particularly, the number 15 is shocking. You support the claim that abuse is roughly 15 times more pervasive within police families than in the general population. Where does that come from?
Alex Roslin: The major study here was done by a police officer and a sociologist in Tucson, Arizona, working with a collaborator who had studied domestic violence in military families. It wasnât by the police department officially. That study found that 40 percent of cops reported having participated in domestic violence in the previous year. The researchers questioned spouses and officers separately with anonymous questions and came up with strikingly similar figures.
An FBI advisory board later found that roughly 40 percent of officers who filled out questionnaires in a number of different settings admitted to being physically violent with their spouse in the previous six months. The general population data for self-reported abuse is closer to 4 percent when people are asked to report on the last 12 months.
The numbers are higher for cops who work night shifts.
Itâs worth nothing that the sample sizes are a bit small and that these are older studies. Given the potential scale of the crisis, itâs bizarre that there wouldnât be more available numbers.
Alex Roslin: The 40 percent number is the closest I could figure while trying to do an apples to apples comparison. We know for sure that the rate of domestic violence among cops from the little data we have is ridiculously high. We know that thanks to research done in part by police officers, some of whom suggest that number might be low. So we wind up with cops being around 15 times more likely to engage in domestic violence than members of the general population. (Editorâs Note: The comparison here is based on 1.5 to 4 percent of U.S. and Canadian women reporting domestic violence by a partner and an estimate that 6 to 14 percent of children are abused each year. These numbers vary because data is based largely on incidents and self-reporting.)
We should consider why the data is nonexistent or decades old. Why is no one looking at a massive issue of public interest? Iâve been working on updating my book for a third edition. Doing research Iâve found 40 examples of cops in the United States murdering their spouses. Thatâs over just three years.
Is there data available on the children of cops? Is there any reason to believe that abuse doesnât extend beyond partner violence?
Alex Roslin: Sadly, Iâve seen no data on that, but anecdotally⌠Iâve heard a lot of stories. Itâs not just police partners that face abuse. Itâs children. There have been a lot of reports of that and it makes sense.
Itâs a broad question, but unavoidable: Why is this happening?
Alex Roslin: Abuse is an open secret among police officers. Many officers claim that itâs the result of a stressful job. But in my research and in talking to domestic violence researchers, it becomes clear that stress doesnât really cause abuse. There are lots of stressful jobs. Paramedics and surgeons and fire fighters donât have this kind of problem.
The more honest officers will tell you that policing is a job about control â controlling people and controlling chaotic environments. It attracts people with that mentality and that desire. Not all police officers are the same, but the more authoritarian police officers are the more likely they are to be violent at home.
These men arenât losing control. They are maintaining control. Thatâs different.
Thatâs a disturbing idea because it suggests a strong connection between domestic violence and public violence. Do you see a strong link there?
Alex Roslin: The reality is that police are being put into places in society where they are supposed to be in control, but we have both movements toward recognizing the rights of more groups â notably women and minorities â and also more inequality than ever. Maintaining control in that environment becomes extremely taxing. My fear is that this is trending the wrong way. When police are protecting this kind of status quo, youâre going to see more domestic violence, not less.
The inequalities of society force us to empower police. And that empowerment results in the hiring of abusers. Police domestic violence is a mirror held up to our society. Who polices an unequal and violent society?
Are there causes beyond the desire for control? It feels like that impulse would be tempered by the proximity of⌠law enforcement officers. Is it not?
Alex Roslin: No. Cops get away with it. Anthony Bouza, a one-time commander in the New York Police Department and former police chief of Minneapolis, said that âThe Mafia never enforced its code of blood-sworn omerta with the ferocity, efficacy, and enthusiasm the police bring to the Blue Code of Silence.â Thatâs reflected in rates at which violence is reported and the degree to which there are consequences.
What happens to partners abused by police?
Alex Roslin: In general, these women are terrified. Normally, domestic violence survivors are not in a good place. But these women know the cop has a gun and knows how to commit violence without leaving a mark and they say, âEveryone will think youâre crazy.â And she canât necessarily go to a shelter because he knows where they are.
Some of these women contact me. Iâm a freelance journalist in Canada. Iâm happy to do what I can to help, but why is there no one else?
Youâre a father. What do you tell your kids about the police? How do you talk to them about law enforcement given what you know and given your work?
Alex Roslin: My daughters know what I do. They know what Iâm writing about. My wife has two uncles who are retired officers. We live in a small town and a former police officer is now the mayor and lives down the street. Police officers are humans. At the same time, my kids know that there is a darker side to policing.
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znModeratoron Terrell Lewis
Since arriving at practices, Lewis has joined an outside linebacker rotation that includes projected starters Samson Ebukam and Leonard Floyd, as well as Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Natrez Patrick and Jachai Polite.
“He’s everything and then some more,” Ebukam said about Lewis, emphasizing his length and other physical attributes.
“He’s looked good the last three days in practice and has got a long way to go,” McVay added. “But you definitely see the flashes.”
znModeratorI missed this ugliness from Day 1 of the RNC.
Please watch and listen.
If you ever thought the GOP cared about opioids, and the opioid epidemic wrecking middle America â here is your answer…pic.twitter.com/ryR0u6hqQY
— Rex Chapmanđđź (@RexChapman) August 25, 2020
znModeratorPete Prisco@PriscoCBS
Watch out for the Cardinals this year. Can be a playoff team — even in a tough division.Jon Machota@jonmachota
Cowboys kicker Greg Zuerlein is now 18 for 18 on his field goal attempts in training camp. All have been indoors. He hit today from 33, 37, 40, 42, 44, 46Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Yeah well is his name as fun to pronounce as Lirim Hajrullahu? I think not.=
Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
Despite the narrative, safeties are increasingly considered marquee players on defense. Controlling the MOF is one of the top priorities on defense. Safeties w/cover skills, versatility and solid tackling ability in and around the box are game changers.==
Russell Lande@RUSSLANDE
One way you can tell if the football team/organization has issues is when both sides, coaching and personnel, are constantly blaming each other for the lack of success on the field as opposed to working together to address issues that both sides may have to improve.
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams 2020 Season Preview
Eric D. Williams
https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/la-rams-2020-season-preview
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — After missing the playoffs for the first time in three NFL seasons coming off a Super Bowl run, Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay is in prove-it mode — find a way to get back to the big game, and this time win it.
âWe didnât do a good enough last year,â McVay said about his teamâs 9-7 record in 2019. âIf your standards are anything less than the expectation to try to win every game and do things the right way — with crisp, sharp operation and execution in all phases — I donât know what weâre spending all this time here for.
âWeâre never going to run away from that. We have high expectations and those things donât change.â
McVay will try and make a deep postseason again with a much different cast. Running back Todd Gurley, receiver Brandin Cooks, safety Eric Weddle, kicker Greg Zuerlein, inside linebacker Cory Littleton and outside linebackers Clay Matthews III and Donte Fowler Jr. are all gone.
How McVay replaces that lost production will go a long way in determining whether his team reaches the postseason again 2020.
Offense
McVay has to get quarterback Jared Goff playing efficient football after he finished with a career-low 86.5 passer rating for a 16-game season and a career-high 16 interceptions in 2019. New offensive coordinator Kevin OâConnell is focused on improving Goffâs footwork, creating improved accuracy and better decision making for the 25-year-old signal caller when the pocket is muddy.
Along with that, the Rams need to run the football more consistently, taking some pressure off Goff. The Rams averaged just 3.7 yards per carry on first down runs last season, No. 28 in the NFL
The addition of second-round selection Cam Akers adds some juice to the run game. At 5-11 and 215 pounds, Akers has a chance to develop into a complete back. Akers is a patient runner in-between the tackles and a natural hands catcher who should immediately contribute in the passing game.
If they can stay healthy, the Rams should be better up front offensively. During the teamâs Super Bowl run, all five starters along the offensive line played all 16 games. However, last season the Rams played five different offensive line combinations, resulting in uneven play.
Defense
New defensive coordinator Brandon Staley, a protĂŠgĂŠ of longtime NFL defensive coordinator Vic Fangio, is tasked with improving a defense that allowed 23 points per game last season.
Fangio has two talented pieces to build around — who many NFL observers consider the best defensive player in the game in defensive tackle Aaron Donald and Pro Bowl cornerback Jalen Ramsey.
Expect both players to move around the field more. Donald played a career-high 121 snaps at defensive end last season and could be out there even more in 2020.
And Ramsey should be allowed to spread his wings and use his unique skill set, lining up as an outside corner, slot defender and at times safety depending on the weekly matchup.
The key for Staley will be replacing last yearâs leading tackler Littleton in the middle of the defense and finding consistent, outside pass rush.
Count safety John Johnson as a believer the Ramsâ defense can be even better than Staleyâs previous stops as an outside linebackers coach with the Denver Broncos and Chicago Bears.
âIn the past, Coach Staley came from Denver, and he came from Chicago,â Johnson said. âI think we have better guys on defense than he had in both of those places. So just picture what they were doing, but with better guys.â
Predicted record
10-6: Football Outsiders has the Rams at an 8.4-win projection with a 48 percent chance of making the playoffs. Part of the reasoning for the bullish prediction is a roster that still has talented players on both sides of the ball led by a young, dynamic coach who generally gets the most out of his team. Even though they play in perhaps the toughest division in football in the NFC West, the Rams have a pretty soft schedule, facing he AFC East and NFC East this season.
Expected depth chart
Offense (West Coast)
Quarterback: Jared Goff
Running back: Cam Akers, Malcolm Brown
Wide Receivers: Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp
Tight ends: Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett
Left tackle: Andrew Whitworth
Left guard: Joe Noteboom
Center: Austin Blythe
Right guard: Austin Corbett
Right tackle: Rob HavensteinDefense (3-4)
Outside linebacker: Leonard Floyd
Outside linebacker: Samson Ebukam
Defensive tackle: Aaron Donald
Nose tackle: Sebastian Joseph-Day
Defensive end: Michael Brokers
Inside linebacker: Micah Kiser
Inside linebacker: Travin Howard
Left cornerback: Jalen Ramsey
Right cornerback: Troy Hill
Strong safety: Taylor Rapp
Free safety: John Johnson IIISpecialty
Kicker: Lirim Hajrullahu
Punter: Johnny Hekker
Long snapper: Jake McQuaide
Kick/Punt returner: Nsimba Webster
znModeratorfrom Facebook
Former President George W. Bush’s chief speechwriter, Michael Gerson, has a message for people who are excusing President Trump’s racism:
“I had fully intended to ignore President Trumpâs latest round of racially charged taunts against an African American elected official, and an African American activist, and an African American journalist and a whole city with a lot of African Americans in it.
I had every intention of walking past Trumpâs latest outrages and writing about the self-destructive squabbling of the Democratic presidential field…
But I made the mistake of pulling James Coneâs ‘The Cross and the Lynching Tree’ off my shelf â a book designed to shatter convenient complacency.
Cone recounts the case of a white mob in Valdosta, Ga., in 1918 that lynched an innocent man named Haynes Turner. Turnerâs enraged wife, Mary, promised justice for the killers. The sheriff responded by arresting her and then turning her over to the mob, which included women and children. According to one source, Mary was ‘stripped, hung upside down by the ankles, soaked with gasoline, and roasted to death. In the midst of this torment, a white man opened her swollen belly with a hunting knife and her infant fell to the ground and was stomped to death.’
God help us.
It is hard to write the words.
This evil â the evil of white supremacy, resulting in dehumanization, inhumanity and murder â is the worst stain, the greatest crime, of U.S. history. It is the thing that nearly broke the nation. It is the thing that proved generations of Christians to be vicious hypocrites. It is the thing that turned normal people into moral monsters, capable of burning a grieving widow to death and killing her child.
When the president of the United States plays with that fire or takes that beast out for a walk, it is not just another political event, not just a normal day in campaign 2020.
It is a cause for shame. It is the violation of martyrsâ graves. It is obscene graffiti on the Lincoln Memorial. It is, in the eyes of history, the betrayal â the re-betrayal â of Haynes and Mary Turner and their child.
And all of this is being done by an ignorant and arrogant narcissist reviving racist tropes for political gain, indifferent to the wreckage he is leaving, the wounds he is ripping open.
Like, I suspect, many others, I am finding it hard to look at resurgent racism as just one in a series of presidential offenses or another in a series of Republican errors. Racism is not just another wrong.
The Antietam battlefield is not just another plot of ground. The Edmund Pettus Bridge is not just another bridge. The balcony outside Room 306 at the Lorraine Motel is not just another balcony. As U.S. history hallows some causes, it magnifies some crimes.
What does all this mean politically? It means that Trumpâs divisiveness is getting worse, not better. He makes racist comments, appeals to racist sentiments and inflames racist passions. The rationalization that he is not, deep down in his heart, really a racist is meaningless.
Trumpâs continued offenses mean that a large portion of his political base is energized by racist tropes and the language of white grievance. And it means â whatever their intent â that those who play down, or excuse, or try to walk past these offenses are enablers.
Some political choices are not just stupid or crude.
They represent the return of our countryâs cruelest, most dangerous passion.
Such racism indicts Trump. Treating racism as a typical or minor matter indicts us.”
znModeratorfrom How George Floyd protests evolved in 5 major cities
Demonstrators in hundreds of cities across the country have protested police brutality against African Americans. Many social media posts and news broadcasts have focused on the violence, looting and property damage at Black Lives Matter protests. But those scenes of destruction donât tell the whole story. PolitiFact surveyed news reports, statements from public officials and footage in five major American cities to get a feel for the tenor of Black Lives Matter protests. We found that, while all of them started with violence, demonstrations are now largely peaceful.
znModerator2,000-year-old redwoods survive wildfire at California’s oldest state park
Though feared destroyed, most of the ancient trees at Big Basin Redwoods State Park withstood the blaze.
znModeratorField Yates@FieldYates
No active player has more receiving TDs over his last 24 games played than Cooper Kupp, who has 16.The Falcons have released veteran G Jamon Brown after one season with the team. Brown is still due $4.75M guaranteed from Atlanta this season.
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from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2020/08/25/rams-van-jefferson-training-camp-versatility/
Like Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods, Jefferson can play every wide receiver position, which is extremely important in the eyes of Sean McVay. The coach was asked about the possibility of Jefferson starting this year, and his response was largely about the rookieâs versatility.
âYeah, I think youâre just looking at how comfortable he gets at moving around in the offense. You know, weâve got guys weâve got X and Z and F positions, but really, we want to be able to have guys that are versatile that can play all over the formation. And I think thatâs one of the things we liked so much about Van is he can certainly win isolations outside, he can work inside on option routes where he understands how to work leverages and recognize coverage contours,â McVay said. âSo, heâs a really good football player. Heâs continuing to do a great job of just learning every single day from Coach âYarbsâ (wide receivers coach Eric Yarber), (assistant wide receivers coach) Zac Robinson. And you can see, kind of like what weâve talked about ever since we drafted him, heâs got a knack for the game. Football just makes sense to him. Heâs got that pedigree, you know, when you look at the history of the success that his dad had as a player and now heâs coaching. And when youâre around Van, thatâs what it feels like. You know, it feels like he came from that football pedigree and he sure is talented.â
znModeratorJonathan Lemire@JonLemire
KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) â Father of a Black man shot by Kenosha, Wisconsin, police tells Chicago Sun-Times that son is paralyzed from waist down.Olayemi, Esq.@msolurin
Jacob Blake wasnât committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didnât comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for 2 white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him 7 times in the back.For the record: original reports were stating that officers were called to the scene for 2 white women fighting + recent reporting has just stated women fighting, no specification as to race. Regardless, the question remains. He shouldnât have become a focus + we know why he did
Jacob Blake wasnât committing any crime. Instead of asking why he didnât comply, ask why an officer who was called to the scene for 2 white women fighting somehow shifted his attention to this Black man, drew his gun on him, and shot him 7 times in the back.
There was no reason for an officer to be stopping him, there was no reason for a gun to be drawn on him, there was no reason he shouldâve been given orders to have to comply with.
August 25, 2020 at 8:44 am in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119980
znModerator.@AOC is pressuring Postmaster General Louis DeJoy to release his calendar to the Oversight Committee. If he refuses, she recommends a subpoena. pic.twitter.com/Xvc97KL7nz
— Public Citizen (@Public_Citizen) August 24, 2020
znModeratorEveryone probably thinks their puppy is the smartest but mine is growling at Donald Trump so Iâm actually correct pic.twitter.com/2lhZ3EAduS
— Jeanna Kelley (@jeannathomas) August 24, 2020
August 25, 2020 at 6:28 am in reply to: Trump admits (today) that he’s trying to sabotage vote-by-mail. #119973
znModeratorPostmaster Dejoy withheld a major report, received by him 2 days before the request for docs from the Senate committee for that hearing came to him, that documented delays across the system. He was caught bc someone else gave the House committee a copy of the report.
— Rachel "The Doc" Bitecofer đđđ (@RachelBitecofer) August 24, 2020
znModeratorCentrists during primary: âWe cannot vote for Bernie because the Republicans will call him a socialist.â
Every Republican Tonight: â@JoeBiden is a socialist.â#RNCConvention2020
— Ryan Knight đš (@ProudSocialist) August 25, 2020
znModeratorUniversity of Alabama reports over 500 cases of COVID-19 positives https://t.co/UrhbaFSAQj
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) August 25, 2020
znModeratorThe police shooting of Jacob Blake, a Black Wisconsin father, explained
The shooting put Blake in serious condition and launched a night of civil unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin.https://www.vox.com/2020/8/24/21399690/jacob-blake-police-shooting-wisconsin
A police officer shot Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old Black man, in the back seven times in Kenosha, Wisconsin â a city 40 miles south of Milwaukee â on Sunday evening.
A video circulating on social media, which has now been viewed more than 5 million times, captured the incident, showing Blake being shot at close range as he attempted to enter a vehicle.
On Monday, the Wisconsin Department of Justice released a statement saying the shooting occurred as Kenosha officers were responding to a reported domestic incident. It is unclear who was involved in the domestic dispute and how Blake is connected to it, and available video offers little evidence about what took place in the minutes before the shooting. Blake was taken to a Milwaukee hospital, where he remained in serious condition Monday.
The officers involved in the shooting have been placed on administrative leave. The state Justice Department is leading an investigation into the incident alongside Wisconsin State Patrol and the Kenosha County Sheriffâs Office. The state DOJ says it will submit its findings to a prosecutor within 30 days, who will determine whether to press any charges.
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers addressed the shooting in a statement Sunday, writing, âWhile we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country.â
National figures have offered their thoughts as well. Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden responded to the shooting on Monday afternoon. âThe nation wakes up yet again with grief and outrage that yet another Black American is a victim of excessive force. This calls for an immediate, full and transparent investigation and the officers must be held accountable,â Biden said. âThese shots pierce the soul of our nation.â
The shooting comes amid ongoing demonstrations against police brutality and protests advocating for Black Americans, like George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, who have been killed at the hands of police officers.
International protests erupted in late May after Floyd was killed by a police officer in Minneapolis, and Blakeâs shooting set off demonstrations in Kenosha late Sunday night as large crowds of protesters gathered outside of a local police precinct and courthouse, demanding that the police officers be held accountable for the shooting.
Videos on social media showed protests that included garbage trucks being set on fire, windows of buildings at and near the courthouse being smashed, and crowds clashing with police dressed in riot gear. Other accounts show that an entire car lot and building were burned down during the night. This activity prompted county officials to institute a curfew until 7 am Monday.
As protests carry on, about 125 members of the Wisconsin National Guard are also expected to be deployed in Kenosha on Monday evening, the governor said at an afternoon press conference. The county has set a curfew from 8 pm Monday until 7 am Tuesday and plans to use the military officials to protect city infrastructure from vandalism and looting after Evers declared a state of emergency.
Blakeâs shooting only sharpens the calls of protesters who say Americans must continue to take to the streets to fight the harmful cycle of police brutality. The protests have put pressure on lawmakers across the country to defund the police. However, in Wisconsin, where there have been several high-profile police shootings of Black men in recent years, lawmakers are already pushing back on a package of police reforms.
Police were called to the scene of a domestic incident at 5:11 pm on Sunday in the Wilson Heights neighborhood of Kenosha, according to a police report. It is unclear who made the call to police.
Before the shooting occurred, Blake was trying to break up a âverbal altercationâ between two women just after 5 pm, several witnesses told Kenosha News. Witnesses also told the publication that Blake was unarmed. Officials have not yet confirmed these details.
In the video of the incident, Blake can be seen wearing a white tank top and black shorts. The video starts with Blake walking around the front a gray van, coming from the passengerâs side, and heading toward the driverâs side. Four officers are visible at the beginning of the video; two of them follow closely behind Blake.
The two officers have their firearms pointed at Blakeâs back. Many people can be heard yelling. As Blake opens the driver-side door, one officer snatches the tail end of Blakeâs tank top. It stretches out as Blake attempts to enter the vehicle; seven shots are fired at Blakeâs back. It is unclear whether the second officer fired any shots. The vanâs horn blares, the officer continues to hold on to Blakeâs shirt, and a woman screams at the side of the vehicle where Blake was shot. One of the officers pushes the woman away, and the 19-second video comes to an end.
Police officers said in a statement that Blake received immediate aid and was airlifted to the hospital in Milwaukee.
On Monday, Jacob Blakeâs family retained civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump, who also represents the family of George Floyd. According to a statement from Crump, Blake was shot by police in front of his three young sons, who were inside the vehicle.
âWe all watched the horrific video of Jacob Blake being shot in the back several times by Kenosha police,â Crump said in the statement. âEven worse, his three sons witnessed their father collapse after being riddled with bullets. Their irresponsible, reckless, and inhumane actions nearly cost the life of a man who was simply trying to do the right thing by intervening in a domestic incident. Itâs a miracle heâs still alive.â
According to Kenosha News, city officers and sheriffâs deputies do not wear body cameras. The police department has not responded to Voxâs request for comment on the incident.
A night of unrest in a region where police shootings arenât uncommon
On Sunday evening, crowds of people arrived at the scene of the incident to protest Blakeâs shooting. Later in the night, protesters confronted police officers who carried batons and dressed in riot gear.The protests continued those that began after Floydâs death and underscored the fact that police shootings of unarmed Black civilians are not new occurrences in Wisconsin, a state in which Black people make up just 6.7 percent of the population. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the Milwaukee region has been home to a number of high-profile police shootings â particularly of Black and Latinx men â in the past two decades in which officers were not charged. One of the victims, 22-year-old Adam Trammell, died in 2017 after officers from the West Milwaukee Police Department broke down the door of his apartment and repeatedly tased him as he showered.
The 2019 police shooting of TyâRese West in Racine County, just north of Kenosha County, also resulted in no charges against the police. A police sergeant stopped West one evening for not having the proper lights on his bicycle. A struggle ensued after the sergeant thought West had a gun. The incident ended when the sergeant fatally shot West. The death sparked protests across Racine County, and Westâs family has not stopped issuing calls for justice.
Years of grassroots organizing after the police shooting of 21-year-old Kenosha County resident Michael Bell in 2004 led to the passing of a Milwaukee law in 2014 that prevents police officers from conducting their own investigations of officer-involved shootings. As in Blakeâs case, an outside law enforcement body must step in to lead the investigation.
But in the wake of George Floydâs death, criminal justice reform advocates have argued that law doesnât go far enough, and protesters have demanded state legislators make changes to the criminal justice system. Some local officials across the state responded to these demands by terminating school district contracts with police officers. In June, Evers announced a legislative package that included banning chokeholds and no-knock warrants, adding the requirement that officers take deescalation training, and putting $1 million in grants toward community-based anti-violence programs, according to Wisconsin Public Radio.
However, lawmakers likely wonât take a vote on any of the proposals until next year. And the package of bills from the stateâs Democratic governor has received little support from the Republican lawmakers who control the stateâs legislature. On Monday, Republican Assembly Speaker Robin Vos called the governorâs package âliberal policies that will only deepen the divisions in our state.â
Evers has used Blakeâs shooting to call for a renewed focus on race and policing in his state, saying in a statement Sunday, âWe stand against excessive use of force and immediate escalation when engaging with Black Wisconsinites. … In the coming days, we will demand just that of elected officials in our state who have failed to recognize the racism in our state and our country for far too long.â
But the governorâs statement â and currently proposed initiatives â have garnered pushback. Pete Deates, president of the union representing Kenosha police officers, denounced the governorâs statement, calling it âwholly irresponsible and not reflective of the hardworking members of the law enforcement community.â Deates asked that people âwithhold judgmentâ about the shooting and let the investigation âplay out fairly and impartially.â
Protesters in Kenosha and across the country are still demanding systemic change. Michael Bell Sr., the father of shooting victim Michael Bell, told the New York Times following the shooting of Blake, âThe system is broken. The system here is broken.â
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In 1998, I was arrested in Kenosha, WI. It’s a long, complicated story that I don’t want to focus on because it’s not the point of this post, but just to say I was arrested doing non-violent activism at a rodeo protest. Basically, I was holding a cattle prod to show media what they use at the rodeo and I was arrested for “threatening people with a stun gun.” It was 24-hours in jail and I was out. (I had a long and expensive legal fight afterwards because – go me! – I got charged with a felony the very first time I was arrested.)
My point is, though, as a white woman, I have some experience with the Kenosha police and justice system. As a white woman, though, I had only the merest of glimpses, practically just as an observer.
Today, we are learning more about the horrific shooting of an unarmed Black man, Jacob Blake, in front of his three children in Kenosha. He is now fighting for his life. What happened to him is very different from my experience, but my little lens into the criminal justice system there absolutely corroborates what a nightmare BIPOC face at the hands of the Kenosha police.
Here are some of the things I learned from my experience in Kenosha.
⢠They had something like a 95% conviction rate when I was “in the system”. I was told by multiple Chicago lawyers that Kenosha was a “black hole” even in an already unjust legal system. If you got arrested there, it was going to stick, especially if you couldn’t afford good legal representation.
⢠Every single other person in my cellblock was Black or Latina, this despite the fact that Black and Latinx people make up less than 13% of the population of Kenosha.
⢠The guards (all white) treated me like absolute garbage, so I can only imagine how BIPOC are treated. All they know how to do is bark at people and be as mean as possible. Like literally the lights were on all night and they were having some big, loud celebration that reverberated through the cellblock to the point where it sounded like it was piped in just to be cruel. All night long.
⢠When one woman in the cell was transferred to prison, the others in the cellblock were high-fiving and congratulating her. I thought this was odd. It turns out it’s moving up to go from jail to prison. You have more resources. (At least that was how it was explained to me.) Many people in my block who’d been there for months were sleeping two to a room designed for one.
⢠When I was released the next afternoon, I saw resignation in the eyes of the women I came to know and like in my short time there. It seemed like they were saying, “Of course she’s going. She’s white.” Resignation and disgust.
⢠I got to move on with my life. I never thought for a second that getting arrested for a non-violent offense in Kenosha – or anywhere – could be a life-or-death matter for me. At most, it’s an interesting story. At most honest, though, it reveals just how entrenched racism is at a core, structural level.
To this day, when we drive through Kenosha, even just from the expressway, I get panicky and I don’t feel calm until we leave the city limits. Now imagine if the whole world were Kenosha, if the whole world represented a police force that could easily imprison or kill you without a second thought, a justice system that was almost guaranteed to fail you.
People are rioting in Kenosha now. A state of emergency curfew has been declared. It only makes sense. This is criminal, it is racist and it has been going on far too long. No wonder people are past the breaking point.
Kenosha to me represents the whole country to BIPOC on steroids. It is unfair, it is unjust and it is absolutely lethal.
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Marla Rose
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In 1998, I was arrested in Kenosha, WI. It’s a long, complicated story that I don’t want to focus on because it’s not the point of this post, but just to say I was arrested doing non-violent activism at a rodeo protest. Basically, I was holding a cattle prod to show media what they use at the rodeo and I was arrested for “threatening people with a stun gun.” It was 24-hours in jail and I was out. (I had a long and expensive legal fight afterwards because – go me! – I got charged with a felony the very first time I was arrested.)
My point is, though, as a white woman, I have some experience with the Kenosha police and justice system. As a white woman, though, I had only the merest of glimpses, practically just as an observer.
Today, we are learning more about the horrific shooting of an unarmed Black man, Jacob Blake, in front of his three children in Kenosha. He is now fighting for his life. What happened to him is very different from my experience, but my little lens into the criminal justice system there absolutely corroborates what a nightmare BIPOC face at the hands of the Kenosha police.
Here are some of the things I learned from my experience in Kenosha.
⢠They had something like a 95% conviction rate when I was “in the system”. I was told by multiple Chicago lawyers that Kenosha was a “black hole” even in an already unjust legal system. If you got arrested there, it was going to stick, especially if you couldn’t afford good legal representation.
⢠Every single other person in my cellblock was Black or Latina, this despite the fact that Black and Latinx people make up less than 13% of the population of Kenosha.
⢠The guards (all white) treated me like absolute garbage, so I can only imagine how BIPOC are treated. All they know how to do is bark at people and be as mean as possible. Like literally the lights were on all night and they were having some big, loud celebration that reverberated through the cellblock to the point where it sounded like it was piped in just to be cruel. All night long.
⢠When one woman in the cell was transferred to prison, the others in the cellblock were high-fiving and congratulating her. I thought this was odd. It turns out it’s moving up to go from jail to prison. You have more resources. (At least that was how it was explained to me.) Many people in my block who’d been there for months were sleeping two to a room designed for one.
⢠When I was released the next afternoon, I saw resignation in the eyes of the women I came to know and like in my short time there. It seemed like they were saying, “Of course she’s going. She’s white.” Resignation and disgust.
⢠I got to move on with my life. I never thought for a second that getting arrested for a non-violent offense in Kenosha – or anywhere – could be a life-or-death matter for me. At most, it’s an interesting story. At most honest, though, it reveals just how entrenched racism is at a core, structural level.
To this day, when we drive through Kenosha, even just from the expressway, I get panicky and I don’t feel calm until we leave the city limits. Now imagine if the whole world were Kenosha, if the whole world represented a police force that could easily imprison or kill you without a second thought, a justice system that was almost guaranteed to fail you.
People are rioting in Kenosha now. A state of emergency curfew has been declared. It only makes sense. This is criminal, it is racist and it has been going on far too long. No wonder people are past the breaking point.
Kenosha to me represents the whole country to BIPOC on steroids. It is unfair, it is unjust and it is absolutely lethal.
znModeratorfrom Facebook
Marla Rose
¡
In 1998, I was arrested in Kenosha, WI. It’s a long, complicated story that I don’t want to focus on because it’s not the point of this post, but just to say I was arrested doing non-violent activism at a rodeo protest. Basically, I was holding a cattle prod to show media what they use at the rodeo and I was arrested for “threatening people with a stun gun.” It was 24-hours in jail and I was out. (I had a long and expensive legal fight afterwards because – go me! – I got charged with a felony the very first time I was arrested.)
My point is, though, as a white woman, I have some experience with the Kenosha police and justice system. As a white woman, though, I had only the merest of glimpses, practically just as an observer.
Today, we are learning more about the horrific shooting of an unarmed Black man, Jacob Blake, in front of his three children in Kenosha. He is now fighting for his life. What happened to him is very different from my experience, but my little lens into the criminal justice system there absolutely corroborates what a nightmare BIPOC face at the hands of the Kenosha police.
Here are some of the things I learned from my experience in Kenosha.
⢠They had something like a 95% conviction rate when I was “in the system”. I was told by multiple Chicago lawyers that Kenosha was a “black hole” even in an already unjust legal system. If you got arrested there, it was going to stick, especially if you couldn’t afford good legal representation.
⢠Every single other person in my cellblock was Black or Latina, this despite the fact that Black and Latinx people make up less than 13% of the population of Kenosha.
⢠The guards (all white) treated me like absolute garbage, so I can only imagine how BIPOC are treated. All they know how to do is bark at people and be as mean as possible. Like literally the lights were on all night and they were having some big, loud celebration that reverberated through the cellblock to the point where it sounded like it was piped in just to be cruel. All night long.
⢠When one woman in the cell was transferred to prison, the others in the cellblock were high-fiving and congratulating her. I thought this was odd. It turns out it’s moving up to go from jail to prison. You have more resources. (At least that was how it was explained to me.) Many people in my block who’d been there for months were sleeping two to a room designed for one.
⢠When I was released the next afternoon, I saw resignation in the eyes of the women I came to know and like in my short time there. It seemed like they were saying, “Of course she’s going. She’s white.” Resignation and disgust.
⢠I got to move on with my life. I never thought for a second that getting arrested for a non-violent offense in Kenosha – or anywhere – could be a life-or-death matter for me. At most, it’s an interesting story. At most honest, though, it reveals just how entrenched racism is at a core, structural level.
To this day, when we drive through Kenosha, even just from the expressway, I get panicky and I don’t feel calm until we leave the city limits. Now imagine if the whole world were Kenosha, if the whole world represented a police force that could easily imprison or kill you without a second thought, a justice system that was almost guaranteed to fail you.
People are rioting in Kenosha now. A state of emergency curfew has been declared. It only makes sense. This is criminal, it is racist and it has been going on far too long. No wonder people are past the breaking point.
Kenosha to me represents the whole country to BIPOC on steroids. It is unfair, it is unjust and it is absolutely lethal.
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