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ModeratorField Yates@FieldYates
How dominant is the Steelers defense?Pittsburgh is now 2-0 this season in games when they fail to score a touchdown.
The rest of the NFL is 2-19 combined when failing to score a touchdown.
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ModeratorCooper — and we cannot stress this enough — Kupp.
🎥 More highlights on https://t.co/m9oFPQ0GVI pic.twitter.com/NXC7gSRyWJ
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) November 18, 2024
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ModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
WR Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) became the first player in NFL history to record 600+ receptions, 7,500+ receiving yards and 50+ touchdown receptions in a player’s first 100 career games.zn
ModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshop
“I saw him [Puka] hit the ground and bounce a couple of times and I was like, oh, I was really hoping it was just the air being forced out of his lungs,” Cooper Kupp said. “But he’ll be all right. We’re working on landing softer.”zn
ModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
Since returning from injury, OL Steve Avila (@Stevelavila) has allowed just one pressure over his last two games.zn
ModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTST
Rams OL Week 11 PFF Grades:Alaric Jackson: 79.5 Pass Block | 89.9 Run Block
Steve Avila: 72.3 PBLK | 59.5 RBLK
Beaux Limmer: 69.3 PBLK | 78.6 RBLK
Kevin Dotson: 66.3 PBLK | 90.3 RBLK
Warren McClendon: 75.4 PBLK | 65.5 RBLKPFF LA Rams@PFF_Rams
The highest-graded Rams in Week 11 vs the Patriots:🥇 Kamren Kinchens – 92.6
🥇 Puka Nacua – 92.6
🥉 Kevin Dotson – 90.1
🏅 Alaric Jackson – 81.9
🏅 Matthew Stafford – 79.9zn
ModeratorAs Rams eye another playoff chase, the little details could make or break them
Jourdan Rodrigue
https://x.com/JourdanRodrigue?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
FOXBORO, Mass. — What a perfect setting, in a place with such a storied previous reputation for winning by emphasizing the details, to consider the important little moments and decisions within a game.
The Los Angeles Rams (5-5) beat the New England Patriots (3-8) on Sunday afternoon at Gillette Stadium, the hallowed halls of a program once known for its meticulousness, its understanding of all of the margins that must be exploited within a 60-minute window, and that is now in the process of finding its way in a new era.
The details made the difference for the Rams in the 28-22 win but could have broken them, too. That is the story of their season right now and likely will be in the coming weeks as they hope to go on another fairytale ride with this group of players.
Take their offensive line, for example: After a one-week experiment with veteran guard Jonah Jackson at center (where he has only gotten about 15 practices because of injuries and overall readjustments by Rams brass at the center/left guard positions), rookie Beaux Limmer got his starting job back. He and the rest of the line kept quarterback Matthew Stafford off the ground (no sacks, four hits) and handled New England’s pressure well, even if at times Stafford rushed throws or targeted other options in light of it. That an impact decision at center manifested in a place where the position coach — who has been working long hours to get Limmer up to speed and to establish an identity within the much-maligned group this season — used to start at center was all the more poetic.
Coach Sean McVay was sure to shout out offensive line coach Ryan Wendell, “Wendy,” the former Patriots center, in his postgame news conference, and his players knew what the win meant to him.
Right tackle Warren McClendon added that Limmer stepped right back into the job like he “never skipped a beat,” and McVay was particularly impressed with the left side of the offensive line, where second-year guard Steve Avila played his second game back from injury. Running back Kyren Williams and backup Blake Corum read their gaps and creases well, especially after the first quarter (more on that period in a moment). Williams’ 86 yards on 15 carries were punctuated by an 18-yard run in the first quarter, his longest since Week 5 (his 5.7 yards per carry was almost 2 yards higher than his average entering the game).
“I thought our left side did an excellent job. You can see Alaric (Jackson) was really coming off the football. Steve did a great job. I was proud of the group overall,” McVay said, adding that the possessions in which the Rams did string together several chunk runs “is what offensive ball should look like when it’s quality.”
Williams said that at one point as the Rams began to run the ball well in the second and third quarters, he could hear the Patriots defenders calling out their plays — but they weren’t able to stop them.
“I felt good, I was saying, ‘I was all on that stuff,’” Williams said. “I was seeing what I needed to see, hitting what I needed to hit. (Those) guys made the blocks up front and I was just reading them and playing (like) who I am.
“We were moving the ball. Left, right, outside zone. … It really didn’t matter, we were calling our spots (and) they were literally our plays out there, saying that we were running the same play. We were running the same play! And we were still being efficient. I feel like that’s who those guys (are) and the work they put in this week to get the run game started and going.”
Williams, chafing at himself for missing a pressure pickup off the edge, homed in on the details in a 69-yard touchdown from Stafford to receiver Cooper Kupp (Kupp’s second of the game) up the seam. Williams had the interior pressure assignment that time, against the Patriots’ Cover 0 blitz.
“They brought my ‘backer, I was able to pick him up,” Williams said, “that feels good. That’s good ball. … Matthew was going through his cadence. When he gave us the first “Turbo” (as in, “Turbo … SET”), the linebacker started inching up. I was like, ‘OK, I know he’s coming in.’ That’s my guy anyway. We talk about taking the air out, being able to get to the line of scrimmage and … creating no space between you and the linebacker so that gives him one way to go: outside, or into you.
“He chose to play into me. I set back, anchored. … I fought through the down and Matthew was able to get it out (for a) touchdown. It was sweet.”
There was a fun detail hidden inside that play for Stafford and Kupp, too. It is remarkably similar to the “for the love of the game” concept that set up the Rams’ game-winning field goal against the Tom Brady-led Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFC divisional round a few years ago. Back then, and against the same type of pressure, that ball was never thrown until one night it was. Years later, Kupp and Stafford are able to make an adjustment on the route and with the timing of the throw to, as Stafford said with a smile, make “the likelihood of getting the ball today … higher than it was in that Tampa one.”
Even rookie safety Kam Kinchens’ game-sealing interception on the Patriots’ final drive ended with a crucial detail: Slide! Kinchens laughed after the game when walking me through the play.
“After I caught it, my mind was to run and score a touchdown because it was open to me,” he said, “When (I) catch a pick, it’s go time. But luckily I got ‘Boom’ (Christian Rozeboom). He got right in front of me and said, ‘GO DOWN.’ So I made sure (to slide).” Kinchens added a little intentional gusto to the slide, too.
But other details, other small moments that compounded into larger issues threatened to derail the Rams:
• They continue to start games in stunningly slow fashion. Sunday, they were scoreless in the first quarter for the seventh time this season and failed to convert two key third downs on back-to-back possessions, both around midfield. Deep into the fourth quarter, they couldn’t close the game out, either, failing to convert on third-and-6 and quite literally leaving the game in the hands of Kinchens and the defense.
• Rookie kicker Joshua Karty missed a 26-yard field goal attempt at the end of the second quarter that banged off the right post.
Karty has missed four field goals this year, after a perfect three-game start (he did not kick a field goal in weeks 5 or 8).
The inconsistency in part prompted McVay to punt the ball after a three-and-out with 2:22 left, up by just 6 points and from the New England 35-yard line.
“There wasn’t a lot of reason to feel great about that operation today,” he said.
• Penalty issues and mental errors popped up for a defense that had otherwise played well, including an early strip-sack and fumble recovery in the second quarter that set up a 12-yard touchdown to Puka Nacua a play later. In the third quarter, Patriots quarterback Drake Maye led his offense on a touchdown drive that made it a two-score game. Thirty yards were gifted to Maye and his group because outside linebacker Jared Verse was flagged for a personal foul after a play near the sideline and outside linebacker Byron Young had a face-mask flag (which was more like a clothesline of the offensive player). New England ultimately scored on the next possession (a field goal) while the Rams’ offense stalled once again with a three-and-out before the Patriots added another 3 points.
“When you’ve got a young, youthful group, they’ve got a great spirit about them,” McVay said. “How do we rein them in and not allow them to extend drives by (penalties)? That’s absolutely something we’ve got to be mindful of. We’ll get it fixed. Our guys are the right kinds of guys, I have no doubt. That could have cost us and, fortunately, we don’t have to learn the hard way. I trust we’ll be better moving forward.”
That last sentence carries a lot of weight about the potential McVay believes the Rams have overall. Indeed, they showed a long look at who they can be, as long as they stay in the details.
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ModeratorOh, and Braden Fiske. Another sack and another forced fumble.
2 sacks.
I assume that as a 9ers fan you hate Fiske–not as much as Donald of course but still–yet you should nevertheless try to rise above that and endeavor to be objectively honest.
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ModeratorRAMMAN76
Some game stats
A well-balanced game in passes vs runs: 27/Att in passing, 24/att in runs
Stafford
295 yards on 18-of-27 passing, four touchdowns, passer rating of 142.7
10th all time TD’s in NFLNacua
Seven catches, 123 yards and a touchdownKupp
Six catches, 106 yards and 2 touchdowns
He’s now #3 on the Rams all time TD list behind Bruce and Holt.Kyren Williams 86 yards rushing; averaged 5.35 yards per carry
Defense had 3/sacks, 5/QB hits, 6/TFL, 1/INT
Braden Fiske
2 sacks and a stripKobie Turner
seven tackles, batted pass, fumble recovery.1/INT by Kinchens
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ModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
QB Matthew Stafford recorded his 57th game with three-or-more passing touchdowns, passing Ben Roethlisberger (56) for the eighth-most such games in NFL history.Los Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPR
WR Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) recorded his 54th receiving touchdown and passed Elroy Hirsch (53) for third place on the franchise’s receiving touchdowns list.zn
ModeratorRams Top Plays In Week 11 Win Over Patriots
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ModeratorLions QB Jared Goff today:
24-of-29
412 yards
4 TD
158.3 passing ratingGoff is the first player in NFL history with 2 games of 400+ passing yards, 4+ passing TD and a perfect passer rating.
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) November 18, 2024
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ModeratorAndrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
Sign of strength of the NFL:
Biggest game of year is between Kansas City and Buffalo, two of smallest markets in pro sports.
Rare to see sustained success in small markets in other sports, common in NFL (Green Bay as well).
The power of equal revenue sharing and a Salary Cap.zn
ModeratorToday's 142.7 passer rating for Matthew Stafford was the third-highest of his 16-year career.
Only one better as a Ram was his career-high 156.1 rating in Week 1 of 2021, his LA debut. pic.twitter.com/X0rszu8NwI
— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) November 18, 2024
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ModeratorSanchez mentioned-
Inside counter lead — not unlike the old Gap plays Dickerson ran … but inside, not outsideRB takes counter step to left, goes upfield. Avila traps the 4-tech, Allen leads into hole. Dotson chips the LBer then gets to next LBer. Limmer good, too pic.twitter.com/YduxbjgPAQ
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorSeahawks beat the 9ers.
Both are now 5-5 and the Rams have beat them both.
Next week SF is on the road at GB, and Seattle plays ARZ at home.
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Moderatorand how did mcclendon look? does that write off noteboom?
McClendon was better this week than Noteboom was last week. It’s hard for me to project much about McClendon based on this game, though, so who knows about his future. But IMO Noteboom should, in all fairness, be a goner after the season. He’s injured too often and he doesn’t always play effectively when he is healthy. He was awful last week.
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ModeratorThat's our quarterback. 🫡 pic.twitter.com/YV3OEe41hG
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorMatthew Stafford throws his FOURTH touchdown of the day! 🙌
(via @RamsNFL)pic.twitter.com/4BSLYgoWeK
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorStafford beats the big blitz – -Cover-0
7 man pressure pic.twitter.com/0tzBh5GpVx
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorStarting base defense
a change -Jonah Williams started in base
Tyler Davis has been starting NT last 2 weeks pic.twitter.com/36WXHwTTMx— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorCooper Kupp has now scored multiple TDs in a game for the first time since 2022!! 😤
(via @RamsNFL)pic.twitter.com/2bhx2o6RTy
— FOX Sports: NFL (@NFLonFOX) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorOffensive line & pass protection
I think this was easily the OL’s cleanest effort on the 2024 season so far. For the third time in the last four games, the big guys up front did not allow a single sack on Stafford. It’s probably no coincidence that two of Stafford’s best individual outings have come in games where he was kept clean.
The running game averaged 5.35 yards per carry with Kyren Williams accounting for 86 of those yards and Blake Corum adding 21.
I don’t think the degree of difficulty was too high against the Patriots. I wrote before the game that most were giving Jerod Mayo’s defensive unit too much credit after a dominating performance against the Chicago Bears. Still, the pass protection was beyond solid today and that is a rising tide that lifted all boats on the offensive side of the ball.
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Moderatormissed the game. what was the starting offensive line?
Jackson Avila Limmer Dotson McClendon
Better OL than last week.
Which is not to write Jackson off. Last week he just wasn’t ready to play.
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Moderator❌ KINCHENS CLOSED ❌ pic.twitter.com/MFQAD41BUl
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorIf warmups are any indication, Rams could start this way up front today in New England:
LT – Alaric Jackson
LG – Steve Avila
C – Beaux Limmer
RG – Kevin Dotson
RT – Warren McClendon— J.B. Long (@JB_Long) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorRams inactives: … Joe Noteboom, Rob Havenstein, …
This gawd damm Noteboom experiment has to end. They apparently love him, they extended him and keep bringing him back, and he has never lived up to their trust. Injured a lot and doesn’t consistently come through when he is healthy. OT has to be a priority in the next draft.
I’m sure he’s a good guy. So I take no pleasure in being so harsh. But it’s the NFL. You produce or move on to your next career.
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ModeratorRams OLB Byron Young (knee) is ACTIVE today vs. Patriots.
Rams inactives: Stetson Bennett, Charles Woods, Cody Schrader, Dylan McMahon, Joe Noteboom, Rob Havenstein, Neville Gallimore.
— Adam Grosbard (@AdamGrosbard) November 17, 2024
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ModeratorWith a hybrid DL like Hoecht (97), the Rams can move him from an Edge down to a 3t.
That flexibility allows them to create different looks.
This is similar to how some 4-down defenses use off-ball LBs as leverage tools up front.
— pic.twitter.com/u9EssNofqr— Cody Alexander (@The_Coach_A) November 17, 2024
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