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znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorLes Snead on the Coach McVay show just now on Noteboom and Alaric: “All the news we got back is good news, now it’s just rest and recovery on a short week and I think we can get that done” Looks like we’re gonna be okay up frontThat’s a good thing.
that’s great news. rams offense was in deep doo doo when jackson went out. hopefully he comes back healthy. hopefully noteboom. and then next week kupp.
Cowherd had a line I remember when he was first saying after the games 1 and 2 that the Rams are surprisingly ahead of where most expected them to be in 2023. He said they look like they can compete, but they have no depth.
Sounds like what we saw Monday night.
Except also on Monday, in response to some disasters, McV (IMO) brain froze. I put a lot of that game on coaching too. I just think that for all his brilliance, McV is not always nimble tactically, in the moment. He seems more of a Trust the Plan kinda guy, and less of a “well now that we’re in the moment let’s switch things up” kinda guy.
znModeratorrams wr: number of games with multiple td catches
bruce 12
hirsch 11
kupp 10
holt 10
fears 7
jackson 7
snow 5
ellard 5kupp knocking on the door. pic.twitter.com/QkHZEJfnyb
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 28, 2023
znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorLes Snead on the Coach McVay show just now on Noteboom and Alaric: “All the news we got back is good news, now it’s just rest and recovery on a short week and I think we can get that done” Looks like we’re gonna be okay up front
znModeratorByron Young is getting better in every game that he's played so far this season. Monday Night was by far his best overall performance. Very good against the run.
Can see him blow up the TE and then force Mixon back inside. pic.twitter.com/YzRxvEpya5
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorThe Rams have won the last 3 meetings against the Colts, 2 of which were by 30-plus points https://t.co/9Uxn1jrnjw
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) September 28, 2023
znModerator.@packers @jordan3love scouting football is really just the “studying of movement” and Love has elite movement and great pocket awareness….Watch and see for yourself. #GoPackGo #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/XQV7x2k6KB
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 28, 2023
znModeratorAaron Donald is just so good. Splits the guard and center and they don't stand a chance.
I will never get tired of watching 99 sacking the quarterback. pic.twitter.com/0J43epo3lU
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinMcVay after reviewing Atwell play vs. Bengals: “It’s an imperfect deal and it doesn’t change whatever that decision is…. And if that’s the call that’s made, we’ve got to figure out from the three-yard line how do we punch that thing in.”.Cameron DaSilva@camdasilvaLes Snead said Sean McVay wants to get other RBs involved beyond Kyren Williams and knows his current snap pace isn’t sustainable.roberto clemente@rclemente2121thru week 3 the rams pass defense ranks top 7 in the following categories: #1 pass tds allowed #5 completion % allowed #6 qb rating allowed #6 3rd down pass conversions allowed #7 pass yards per attempt allowed.JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGENAhkello Witherspoon is off to a blistering start with the #Rams. QBs have a 22.0 passer rating when targeting #Rams CB Ahkello Witherspoon. This is seriously the pickup of the year by Les Snead. What a gem. Guy clearly had it just suffered a bad hamstring injury last year and ruined his season..Rams Tapes@RamsTapesOLB Byron Young leads all rookie edge defenders in sacks (2.0), quarterback hits (6), and pressures (13). @byron_97.Los Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRDB Derion Kendrick is tied for 8th in the NFL in pass breakups (3), tied for 4th in incompletions as the primary defender (11), and tied for 14th in passes defended (3).
znModeratorByron Young is just so strong at the point of attack.
Pushes 4x Pro Bowl LT, Orlando Brown Jr. directly into Joe Burrow to disrupt this play. pic.twitter.com/Ze1WZsBaJX
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorTuTu Atwell's (should have been) touchdown that was called back.
The blocking from Ben Skowronek on this play is a thing of beauty.
Really good play design from McVay/LaFleur. Entire Bengals defense shifts right after the fake and TuTu's speed is able to take advantage. pic.twitter.com/ATMNxluGJZ
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorWhat not to do when you have an inexperienced backup LT on the field, lining up across from Trey Hendrickson:
Come out in empty pic.twitter.com/U6WkD84fSA
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorPuka Nacua is an absolute monster blocking in the run game.
Nick Scott wants no part of it.
Believe the Rams should mix in more 12, but Nacua's blocking is likely a reason they're running 98% 11 personnel. The rookie is moving bodies. pic.twitter.com/kO4qX7nKQc
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorKobie Turner and Aaron Donald are going to be a problem for opposing offensive lines moving forward. pic.twitter.com/FVTY6cmFcn
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorRams' PFF grades show Aaron Donald was outstanding, and the offensive line was, well, not good. Noteboom's pass-blocking grade was 0.0 and Thomas' was 8.6.
More grades available here: https://t.co/FSfh4mNUdK
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 26, 2023
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DT Aaron Donald: 92.9
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OLB Byron Young: 85.8
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LB Ernest Jones: 80.7
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CB Derion Kendrick: 72.6
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DT Kobie Turner: 68.2
Donald was unblockable Monday night, recording seven pressures and five stops. He was by far the Rams’ most effective defender.
Young also had a good night, generating five pressures and five stops of his own. He seems to be getting better by the week, which is encouraging for a Rams team that’s lacking edge-rusher talent.
Jones made nine tackles and didn’t miss a single attempt, only allowing two catches on five targets, as well.
Kendrick was picked on often by the Bengals, but he gave up just two catches on five targets for a total of 19 yards with one pass breakup.
Turner had three pressures as an interior defender, a good number for the rookie.
znModeratorMatthew Stafford after the game:
"I had a shot on the one to Tutu (Atwell) in the back of the end zone. I thought he got tugged a little bit and almost came down with that one on the second drive."
Can confirm Atwell got "tugged a little bit". pic.twitter.com/AmtiCGRkMh
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) September 27, 2023
znModeratorRams Fans United@RamsFansUnitedJoe Burrow passer rating: 59.8, they threw the ball almost 70% of the time, 2.9 yards per rush, 4.7 per pass attempt, Rams offense out stated them in most ways, really tough game to lose. Had Rams won, story would be about Bengal’s offense..
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121thru week 3pff – pass blocking
havenstein #55 out of 67 tackles
jackson #59 out of 67 tackles
shelton #22 out of 35 centers
avila #47 out of 76 guards
noteboom #70 out of 76 guardsno rams olineman ranks in the top half of the league in oline pass pro according to pff.
znModerator.@RamsNFL @Ty_Higs19 with an outrageous sell & block to help Spring Atwell on reverse. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/9BZPKBhSf0
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 26, 2023
znModeratorstaff was sacked 6 times by cin according to the stats, but he was actually dumped a total of 8 times (2 were erased because of penalties).
thomas is the clear star of the show, but williams didn't pick up a blitz, note+hav got beat, and avila got tied up a couple of times. pic.twitter.com/fRk2VFvTBk
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) September 26, 2023
znModeratorRams-Bengals takeaways: Margin for error is razor-thin for Matthew Stafford, offense
GARY KLEIN
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-09-26/rams-bengals-takeaways
CINCINNATI — The Rams lost to the Cincinnati Bengals, 19-16, on Monday night at Paycor Stadium.
Here’s what we learned from the defeat that dropped the Rams’ record to 1-2.
Let’s qualify this by acknowledging that passes that bounce off a receiver’s hands, helmet or other body parts and into the arms of defenders typically are not Stafford’s fault.
But the Rams’ margin for error is minuscule. And Stafford is at the controls of the offense.
The 35-year-old quarterback is still making outstanding throws and has even shown a knack for scrambling.
But this was the second game in a row that Stafford had two passes intercepted, and the Rams lost both.
Wait a second. The subhead on last week’s game review read: “The offensive line has protected Stafford.”
Well, a lot can change in a week, especially with injuries beginning to pile up a la 2022.
Left tackle Alaric Jackson left the game because of a thigh injury and did not return. Oft-injured right guard Joe Noteboom was out for a time because of a knee issue.
The Bengals, as expected, took full advantage and finished with six sacks.
Second-year pro Zachary Thomas played in place of Jackson and performed about as well as could be expected given his experience.
Now the question is: How will the beat-up line play at Indianapolis in a short week?
Rams fans certainly enjoyed his record-setting start, and it was fun while it lasted.
But Nacua’s pace was not sustainable.
Nacua caught five passes for 72 yards, ending the rookie receiver’s streak of catching more than 10 passes and amassing more than 100 yards receiving.
Nacua made several tough catches, including one he hauled in with his left hand.
His longest reception covered 37 yards.
Jefferson, a fourth-pro, was supposed to be the No. 2 receiver behind Cooper Kupp, and his prominence should have grown in Kupp’s absence.
Instead, he was the forgotten man.
While Nacua and Tutu Atwell shined, Jefferson stood out for dropped passes and missed opportunities.
But against the Bengals, Jefferson caught a 46-yard pass.
Atwell continued to show his versatility. He caught four passes for 50 yards and a touchdown. He also appeared to score on a 24-yard reverse. But upon review, officials ruled he had stepped out of bounds at the two-yard line.
Aaron Donald bounced back from a rare no-tackle stat line against the San Francisco 49ers by making seven tackles against the Bengals, including a sack and another tackle behind the line of scrimmage.
The three-time NFL defensive of the year has 1½ sacks this season, 104½ in his career.
Edge rusher Byron Young and tackle Kobie Turner shared another sack.
Ahkello Witherspoon’s fourth-quarter interception of a Joe Burrow pass was the first turnover for the Rams defense this season.
Unfortunately for the Rams, the offense failed to capitalize.
Witherspoon, a seventh-year pro who signed a veteran-minimum contract, also broke up a pass.
znModeratorWell they missed Jackson.
But then…think about what that means, in terms of the Rams finding Jackson. They held SF to 1 sack. Bengals got 6. The Cincy DL may be as good as the SF DL but it’s not better.
With Jackson the Rams stand a chance. And he was a UDFA. They found a solid starting LOT as a UDFA.
So, even the darkest hurricanes can contain a silver thread.
Now…hope he’s back soon.
znModeratorJackson went AWOL
Another Wounded OL?
znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilvaThis felt like a game where leaning on Kyren Williams and the running game against a bad run defense would’ve been smart, yet they were in 11 personnel all night and Brycen Hopkins only played 2 snaps. No variety whatsoever..Kyren Williams played every snap last night and has played 131 of 135 the last two weeks. He’s played more snaps than any RB in the NFL and is on pace for 1,043 this year. That’s not sustainable and it might be time for the Rams to adjust.Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersLeaving points on the table. We should be up 14-3 early in this game. Kyren had one carry on 9-10 plays within the 20 yard line? Didn’t make any sense. Liked the deep shot a ton. But, let’s also remember why our offense had been so tough to stop over the first two weeks..Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTHave seen a narrative that Stafford wasn’t sharp last night. …he also got sacked 6 times and was constantly under duress after Jackson went out. That’s a situation where coach has to help the quarterback and it just didn’t happen.The Real Rams Rapp@TheOtherGarthThis is what I’ll say, the defense played GREAT outside of Chase getting his (expected)… Special teams were fine, and the offense was moving the ball well until the oline got destroyed by injuries…. If Mcavy doesn’t kill us, we can beat anyone and I truly believe that
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121the 19 points the bengals scored was the fewest they’ve scored at home in their last 16 games – the rams defense came to play, and gave the team a chance..rams last 16 drives: 0 tds 5 field goals 6 punts 4 interceptions 1 downs.this is the worst combined qb play i’ve seen in a long time… with 7 minutes remaining in the game: stafford has completed just 56% of his passes for 0 tds, 2 int, and 49.9 qb rating. burrow has completed just 53% of his passes for 0 tds, 1 int, and a 59.8 qb rating..Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersThis Rams team is… still a pretty big question mark. We knew the season would be up and down, but self-inflicted wounds shouldn’t be the reason for a loss. It was a game they should’ve won. But how do they (McVay specifically) avoid repeating mistakes?.Blaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTI expected the Rams to be 1-2 through three weeks. However, there was an opportunity here. Joe Burrow was less than 100%. Chance to go 2-1 and show you were ahead of schedule and a contender in the NFC. Rams beat themselves. That’s what makes it disappointing..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThree goal line pass attempts and a pass called on third-and-1…
znModeratorThis is just a year where the smallest defiency will have massive effects. They’re young so not very deep.
But on this one a lot of it was coaching, I agree with that. As we know, McV can be inexplicably erratic at times.
znModeratorNAH WHAT THE FUCK MAN pic.twitter.com/zIFdw3VfrW
— Trent Attyah (@BookitWithTrent) September 26, 2023
znModeratorThe Rams did a lot to beat themselves in this one, including going 1-for-11 on third down and turning it over twice. Situational football was atrocious. https://t.co/4iYEdUoqfo
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 26, 2023
znModeratorFishkiller@FV_Mylia_LynnHow does McVay continually leave his scrub LT 1 on 1 with no help? Unbelievable!.Raheem Morris gets all the heat, but he is doing more with less than McVay is doing with more talent at his disposal..𝕋𝕠𝕞@TL_LARamsDon’t blame Zach Thomas. There is no way he should have been left on an island against a Pro Bowl DE. Give him help with a TE chip, move Noteboom over, do something to help the guy out. This is on McVay..Ramblin’ Fan@RamblinFanNot a great outing for RB Kyren Williams tonight. 0-4 receiving 4 rushes for 11 yards running..RAMS REPORT@RamsNFLReportWhat a sad & boring game. The Rams did not play at all the way that they are capable of, which they showed very well in the first two of the season..Rams Tapes @RamsTapeshorrible adjustments, tutu was in bounds and that was a touchdown, that INT was clearly not an INT he never maintained possession.. defense fought tonight, Indianapolis colts next week..roberto clemente@rclemente2121can kyren catch? he had a lowly 50% (6 of 12) catch rate headed into today’s game, and has caught only 1 of 6 targets tonight. wow..𝚂𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚝 (𝟷-𝟷)@_SC00TStafford has 3 INTs on the season 1 was because of Van Jefferson creating no separation 1 was because of Kyren Williams tipping it to the defense 1 was dropped by the DB but they let it stand.Rams Brothers@RamsBrothersIf this game feels like a f*cking rollercoaster, it’s because it is. The offense has no rhythm. It’s pass first, run third. Losing Alaric Jackson was a true dagger. Frustrating night, for sure.
znModeratorWe stink. There is a chance of a long losing streak that can happen
I don’t share your pessimism Jack. And they may lose a couple of the next few, but, this team is still better than anyone predicted, and IMO it will show in the long run.
So anyway that’s 2 different views, fwiw. Not arguing so I’m done…we just have 2 different views.
znModerator2 things.
First, the offense started to struggle when Jackson went out.
Second, early, when they were moving the ball, they settled for FGs in the redzone because IMO they weren’t running the ball in the RZ. So Rams dropped from being 2nd in the league in touchdown percentage in the RZ
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