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znModeratorThe Rams have put together a really good coaching staff, but, with the exception of this past draft class, they’ve missed on too many draft picks.
We see that slightly differently, though I agree with everything you say on Atwell.
The Rams (except in 23) have been less good drafting when they’re in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Though they are better in the 3rd round than in the 2nd. But they would not have even been competitive at all in 23 if they weren’t way, way above average picking in the lower rounds. There were like players producing in 23 that came from the lower rounds in 21 and 22. (For example every NT they’ve picked starting in 2017 has worked out–it’s 3 in a row).
Why the difference? I have a theory. I think that either McVay or the defensive coordinator or both get too involved in the 2nd round. They see favorites they want. (2 picks that perfectly illustrate that—Everett and Atwell).Then after the 2nd round their favorites matter less and the personnel staff dominates the discussions and choices. It’s an old complaint of mine–coaches can’t scout. But then if your head coach has a favorite in round 2, who has the authority to back him down? HOPEFULLY the Avilla pick is a sign of things to come and they improve a lot with the high picks (1 and 2) and improve a little in round 3 too, while also still being way way above average with the lower picks.
znModeratorIMO? This wasn’t their year, and they had flaws they need to fix in the off-season. Special teams, the secondary, the pass rush, no real 2nd back (and Wms. is looking like he gets dinged a couple of times a year.) It just wasn’t their year. I don’t see this as a missed opportunity. They would have lost sooner or later in the post-season this year. I can take pride in the fact that with all their flaws they were driving in the last minutes to take the lead against Detroit and only an especially bad non-call kept them out of range to kick what could have been a game winning FG (if they made the kick). Another difference showed up right then. In the super bowl, the Bengals had a chance to come back and the Rams defense denied it. This time, the Lions ripped off 2 decisive 1st downs and could then kneel and kill the clock.
It doesn’t matter if the other opponents looked formidable or not, the Rams were winning in spite of huge flaws. Remember how after the bye there were games when they couldn’t shut down a weak opponent in the 4th quarter, like Washington and NYG?
So what the Rams showed me after the bye was a great team whose flaws were huge. It wasn’t their year. But then that same team can fix those flaws in the off-season and what was great about them in 2023 will still be great, so even with flaws in 23 you can see the 24 monster they can become.
As much as I love and admire the 23 team, I just think they would have lost in the post-season sooner or later. This was not the 79 super bowl team that really deserved to be in it in spite of a slow start. In 23, I just think that if not against SF or Baltimore then against Tampa or GB, their exploitable flaws woulda done them in. But at the same time you can see this same team fixing a lot of things in 24 and becoming great.
Also, in terms of GB taking SF to the wire, I just think the GB team is better than people think. They have a story very much like the Rams. In the first half of the season they looked like what they were, the youngest team in the league. In the second half of the season they picked up and were stronger than people expected. They were 9-8 overall, but in the last 8 games were 6-2. (Like the Rams, a very young 3-6 team that grew up in the final 8 games).
znModeratorYeah, Robinson’s emergence, did push tutu down to no.4-role-player, but he still was so much better than in the previous years.
Well I am just speculating here, but, the Rams had so many rookies that starting in OTAs they had to “build up the team,” teaching them how to practice, drill, and do the basics, and then slowly progressed to doing more. Rodrigue watched this happen and said that across those weeks she saw them go from learning how to do basic drills to actually performing the playbook as functional units in practice. This is Rodrigue on that:
They were so imperfect. My goodness, what they looked like when they arrived at OTAs in May — I’ve never seen anything like it. The coaches re-taught a group of 44 rookies and new arrivals how to do drills in May, so that they could have functional practices by June. … Growth occurred in small, quiet repeated actions and in failure — and there was a lot of that in the first weeks and even months. They kept showing up.
Maybe Atwell benefitted from doing that. Instead of being perpetually behind and not fully functional as an NFL WR in the first 2 years, he had a chance to start over and learn it all from the ground up.
I remember his first 2 years, he would often–and it was often–catch passes on the sideline and not be able to get both feet in. He clearly needed to work on that, among other things. I took that as him not being fully developed as a WR–other probems were less visible, but you could clearly see that not getting his feet in on sideline catches meant he was still undeveloped overall. But then he actually did do that in 2023 (feet in), after a couple of years of me complaining that he didn’t. Taking that as just one symbol of improvement, my guess is that he had a chance in his 3rd year to start from scratch and build himself up again, because the Rams had to treat the whole team that way.
znModeratorBut after the bye they scaled back on him.
He apparently applied himself in camp last summer and upped his game. Then he got hurt and Robinson seemed to displace him.
He had 54 targets, 6 a game avg., before the bye. After the bye he missed 3 games, but then only had 13 targets in 5 games, 2.6 a game. That’s some serious back-scaling.
This is just speculation but…I think TA stepped up this season but McV still had to program him in in specific ways. He was good at what he did in 2023 but what he did was more limited than Robinson. When Robinson finally stepped up, he became the 3rd WR–after the bye he had 38 targets, or 5.4 a game. Just guessing, but it looks like at that point McV was just less interested in programming in “Atwell plays.”
znModerator1 minute to go, GB down by 3. They missed a 4th quarter FG and that screwed them.
Edit. Then INT. SF wins.
znModeratorTeams know, Alaric Jackson can’t stay healthy.
Yeah like Roger Saffold. 😎
znModeratorYou can't reform this!!!pic.twitter.com/rsstwxcn6G
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2 years probation for LAPD officer charged with Boyle Heights beating
AUGUST 19, 2022: https://boyleheightsbeat.com/2-years-probation-for-lapd-officer-charged-with-boyle-heights-beating/

A former LAPD officer who violently punched an unarmed Boyle Heights man while responding to a trespassing call two years ago pleaded no contest to assault Thursday, the District Attorney said.
Frank Hernández, 51, will not serve time in jail for the single felony count. Instead, according to the plea agreement announced during a court hearing, he was sentenced to two years of probation, 80 hours of community service and a year of anger management classes.“Wearing a badge does not give an officer the right to use unreasonable and excessive force. When this happens, it erodes trust in the community and can impact our collective safety,” District Attorney George Gascón said in a released statement. “My office will continue to hold officers accountable when they break the law.”
On April 27, 2020 – in an incident that was videotaped and seen widely on social media – Hernández and a partner responded to a call of a trespasser in a vacant lot in the 400 block of Houston Street. During the officers’ investigation, a fight broke out between Hernández and the unarmed suspect, later identified as Richard Castillo.
An LAPD investigation determined that Hernández hit Castillo more than a dozen times in the head. Castillo was not seriously injured in the beating, but Boyle Heights residents and activists demanded Hernandez’s firing and prosecution after it was revealed that the officer had been previously involved in three shootings.
In June, 2020, Hernández was arrested and charged with assault; he soon thereafter pleaded not guilty and was released without bail. After his arraignment, Hernández had a brief encounter with a Los Angeles Times reporter and said: “I was in fear of imminent danger and acted appropriately.”
The Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that Hernández was “separated” from the LAPD in May of 2021.
Castillo filed a federal lawsuit against the LAPD in 2020, but he was shot and killed in El Sereno in 2021. An attorney for the 30-year-old Castillo told the Times the shooting took place a week before he was to be deposed for the suit. Police have made no arrests in connection to Castillo’s death, and no information has been released on the possible motive for the killing.
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znModeratorNFL playoff predictions: 9 coaches, executives predict divisional-round winners
Jeff Howe
Anyone hoping the wild-card weekend might offer more than a single competitive game throughout the three-day slate was disappointed. Not only had five of the six games been decided by multiple possessions, but all the blowouts were also practically decided at some point in the third quarter.
Here’s hoping for a little more drama in the divisional round.For the second week in a row, we’ve assembled a crew of nine team executives and coaches from around the NFL to weigh in on the playoff games. Last week, they combined to correctly call four of the six outcomes, missing the Green Bay Packers’ upset of the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans’ latest impressive performance against the Cleveland Browns.
Some fascinating storylines are taking shape this week. At quarterback, Lamar Jackson, C.J. Stroud and Jordan Love are trying to win their second career playoff games, and No. 1 picks Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield are continuing to try to fortify their standing with their new-ish teams. Then, in the weekend finale, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are gearing up for their third playoff installment, with Allen trying to get the Buffalo Bills on the board in the budding rivalry.
There’s a contrast in settings, too. The Saturday slate features a couple of home atmospheres, Baltimore and San Francisco, that are a bit more accustomed to postseason success, whereas the energy Sunday in Detroit and Buffalo will continue to play a prominent role in the weekend’s theatrics.
No. 1 Baltimore Ravens (13-4) vs. No. 4 Houston Texans (10-7, 1-0)
Kickoff: 4:30 p.m. ET, SaturdayExpert picks: Ravens 9, Texans 0
Fear not, Texans fans. No one from the panel picked them to beat the Browns, either.
Of course, the Ravens are a more daunting opponent. The AFC’s top seed has won six consecutive games started by Jackson, the favorite to win the MVP Award next month. But for Jackson to improve upon his 1-3 playoff record, he will likely have to be more efficient as a passer. Jackson has completed less than 60 percent of his passes in all three postseason defeats, and the Ravens have averaged 10.7 points in those outings.
And though the Ravens allowed the fewest points in the league this season, they also had top-three defenses during the three prior seasons when they reached the playoffs with Jackson.It’s simply a matter of translating that success to the playoffs, where the Ravens have one win in nine years.
“They can dominate all three phases and proved it throughout the regular season with a tough schedule,” an executive said.
The Ravens went 6-3 this season against teams that made the playoffs (two losses to the Pittsburgh Steelers), including a 3-0 mark against teams still standing. They beat the Texans 25-9 in Week 1.
“That’s who I see winning the AFC,” the executive added on the Ravens.
The Stroud effect is real, though. The NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year favorite has been outstanding in back-to-back win-or-go-home games, completing 36 of 47 passes for 538 yards, five touchdowns and no interceptions.
Plus, edge rushers Jonathan Greenard (12 1/2 sacks) and Will Anderson (eight sacks, including one in the playoffs) have been a formidable duo. It’s a different challenge containing Jackson, but defensive-minded head coach DeMeco Ryans will surely have something creative up his sleeve for the veteran QB.
It just might not be enough.
“The Ravens are the overall better team,” a coach said. “But I think it will be a good game.”
The outcome might be determined by the best player on the field.
“Lamar is playing too well, and the defense will get to the rookie QB,” an executive said.
No. 1 San Francisco 49ers (12-5) vs. No. 7 Green Bay Packers (10-8, 1-0)
Kickoff: 8:15 p.m. ET, SaturdayExpert picks: 49ers 9, Packers 0
Sticking with the Saturday theme, can a first-year starting QB keep up the magic against a No. 1 seed? And just like last week, the Packers didn’t get a single panelist to pick them to win.
That’ll be the test for Love, but his best friend of late has been running back Aaron Jones, who has 476 rushing yards during the team’s four-game winning streak. The Packers’ disciplined, run-heavy game plan exposed the Cowboys, and head coach Matt LaFleur was patient enough to stick with it. Love consistently operated on schedule and made several elite throws to keep the Cowboys off-balance.They’ll need a similar approach against the 49ers, who have allowed 4.1 yards per carry, just a tick better than the Cowboys.
“No QB should be as confident as Jordan Love is going into the weekend,” an executive said. “He’s playing lights out right now, and that offense is rolling. Green Bay should be excited about the future with how much young talent is on that roster. I expect a good battle this weekend but ultimately see the Niners’ run game and front seven taking over to win. Green Bay is still suspect on defense, and I have my doubts they will be able to control the game at any point.”‘
The 49ers figure to be a more challenging test than the Cowboys for two reasons. They’re far more dedicated to their running game with Christian McCaffrey, and the 49ers are viewed as a more disciplined team. They might not be as likely to succumb to the mistakes the Cowboys made to cater to the upset.
“(The game) will be closer than people think,” an executive said. “The 49ers’ run game and playmakers will be the difference.”
Added another coach: “The (Niners) defense will eliminate big plays and make (the Packers) drive on them.”
The 49ers have won two games in each of the last two postseasons, so they’re experienced. They were also potentially a Brock Purdy injury away from a Super Bowl rematch with the Kansas City Chiefs a year ago.
Though the Packers’ youth is impressive, that’s come out of necessity. They had $67 million in dead cap space this season, the fourth most in the league, so they needed big production out of players on rookie contracts.
That might just be too much to ask against a potential juggernaut in San Francisco.
No. 3 Detroit Lions (12-5, 1-0) vs. No. 4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-8, 1-0)
Kickoff: 3 p.m. ET, SundayExpert picks: Lions 8, Buccaneers 1
If you’re of a certain age and watched a lot of football before the turn of the century, the idea of a Lions-Bucs game to determine an NFC Championship Game participant might have rattled your week.
But here we are.
“I went back and forth (with my pick),” an executive said. “I ultimately picked Detroit because they’re the more complete team and have home-field advantage. I am curious to see how Goff plays this weekend because I do think Tampa can get pressure on him. And historically, when you can get hits on Goff, you can get him out of rhythm.”
The Lions have been preparing for this stage all season, and the Bucs have exceeded expectations. The visitors have won six of seven, and they’ve been victorious in their past three road games.
“The Bucs are hot, but the Lions have a good, balanced offense that should help keep Tampa’s defense honest.”
The Lions have gone 7-2 at Ford Field this season, including the playoff opener against the Los Angeles Rams last weekend.
“Home field will matter,” an executive said. “And Goff will outperform Baker.”
No. 2 Buffalo Bills (11-6, 1-0) vs. No. 3 Kansas City Chiefs (11-6, 1-0)
Kickoff: 6:30 p.m. ET, SundayExpert picks: Bills 8, Chiefs 1
Allen has been viewed as one of the NFL’s best quarterbacks for the past four years, but he needs to get over the Mahomes hump in the playoffs. The Chiefs beat the Bills in the 2020 and 2021 postseasons, but the Bills are finally getting a crack at them in Buffalo.
What’s more, the Bills are the league’s hottest team with six consecutive victories. This is a far cry from a year ago when they were heading in the wrong direction as the playoffs started.“(The Bills) are a little beat up from the Pittsburgh game, but I think Allen seals the deal this weekend,” an executive said. “He’s balling right now.”
Based on recent performance, it’s hard to argue against the Bills’ chances, but their injuries across the board are a concern. So, too, is Mahomes in the playoffs, and he might be increasingly motivated after the Chiefs have been written off more than usual due to the rash of mistakes from the skill players.
“(The Bills are) rolling at the right time, playing better football than Kansas City down the stretch, (and that) will continue,” a coach said.
The lone voter who took the Chiefs essentially called it a coin toss. Both teams have high ceilings, but it’s been tough to predict how they’ll perform any given week. The lopsided nature of the picks is surely indicative of the Chiefs’ struggles this season.
The Chiefs defense might not be getting enough attention in the clash between two high-profile quarterbacks. Kansas City has allowed 20 or fewer points in six consecutive games, and it has surrendered more than 21 points just twice all season.
The Bills beat the Chiefs 20-17 in Week 14 at Arrowhead.
“The Bills finally get it done (in the playoffs) versus Kansas City,” an executive said.
znModeratorAlaric Jackson LT RFA – Sign for lowest tender for RFA
That’s my one real disagreement. Why hand a cheap experienced LOT starter to another team. Jackson like many players for the 2023 Rams–and the OL in general like many units for the 2023 Rams–benefitted from the obvious “review film, assess and improve starters and units accordingly” routine the Rams went through at the bye. So he picks up his play after the bye. Rams OL was effective and a lot of that as with all OLs has to include having a solid LOT. If you lowball Jackson you’re inviting the rest of the league to think about poaching him, and therefore getting a solid experienced veteran starting LOT at a very cheap price.
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsRams GM Les Snead on if expects to use the team’s first 1st-round pick since 2016:
“A little too early to tell.”
The draft is a little over 3 months away, so I think this would be obvious.
Snead also mentioned beginning process of setting blueprint for 2024 after the Super Bowl. (This is been standard for Rams most offseasons)
znModeratorPuka Nacua made so many tough/contested catches in his first season!
What do you think was his most impressive play? pic.twitter.com/Aa2MkRlAsB
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) January 19, 2024
January 19, 2024 at 9:59 pm in reply to: hiring/firing around the league (including Carroll & Belichick) #148890
znModeratorFrom @NFLTotalAccess: The #Raiders are hiring Antonio Pierce as their coach. pic.twitter.com/lIaHm0Cqdu
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 19, 2024
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znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTFor those that don’t understand why Michael Hoecht drops into coverage. …because the Rams defense wasn’t able to generate edge pressure, that needed to come elsewhere. Rams brought a lot of simulated pressures. If you blitz Ernest Jones, somebody has to drop.
znModeratorHere is Les Snead's 3-minute monologue on Raheem Morris' qualifications to be hired as a head coach during this cycle
"He will be able to hire an unbelievable staff… and I'm pretty sure there will be a lot of tampering charges. Because just about every player will text him… pic.twitter.com/2Ze8s6cuYz
— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) January 19, 2024
znModeratorDone.
znModeratorI don’t know what zn means by “invariably AI writing is going to do things I openly and clearly and very specifically don’t allow.”
You basically summed it up. You cannot prove a paper is written by AI but you can tell it is. And virtually everything AI writing does that is bad, and doesn’t work as decent writing, is something you can grade down for being poor writing.
znModeratorHey BT, I was lost in work and didn’t see the spam filter issues till just now. Which of your 3 replies do you want to keep? Looks like maybe the longest one?
znModeratoroh. no. i’m not saying they have to spend a high pick on the position or throw huge money at a free agent. but a trade or a mid round pick is necessary. a multi-functional tight end. i like allen, but he’s a largely untested rookie and i don’t trust long.
Yeah we’re on the same page. I expect them to take the “Vermeil” approach to this, which is to do everything. A mid-round draft pick or trade, a UDFA, a “ronin” type (a released young veteran), a not-too-expensive FA if there is one (like Robinson). Maybe 3 new guys? That combined with Long and Allen gives them a group to work with, out of which comes the starter or rotation of starters.
As I said, just on paper Hopkins ought to have been the obvious solution to this, but for whatever reason that seems not to be the case.
znModerator🗣 COOPER KUPP! COOPER KUPP!@cooperkupp's best plays from the 2018 season! pic.twitter.com/fvFdSAUIjT
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) February 19, 2019
znModeratorTHE NFL REPORT. Great stuff from @BaldyNFL on the @packers running game and its importance Saturday facing the @49ers . Watch this full interview and the entire episode on YouTube: https://t.co/sDDo6aLG7D pic.twitter.com/0DwdFL4Lfo
— Steve Wyche (@wyche89) January 19, 2024
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_LongGoing through some old NFL Research to update with final numbers from 2023.@RamsNFL RB Kyren Williams (112.5) & WR Puka Nacua (92.6) became the first teammates age 23 or younger to each average 90+ scrimmage yards per game… in league history.
znModeratorThe FA Rankings tool is up and running for the 2024 offseason, with updates to 1-100 and 50 new names on the board!
Contract projections for 1-150:https://t.co/9LbAt2cOKG pic.twitter.com/2yqL21nRvS
— Brad Spielberger, Esq. (@PFF_Brad) January 19, 2024
znModeratoryeah. this all of a sudden becomes the rams biggest need on offense.
But it doesn’t have to be a priority need in terms of which draft picks to use, or how much FA money to spend.
Rams have gotten decent production from the TE spot and they certainly use TEs in blocking, especially in 2023 by putting them in motion to block. In terms of targets/receptions/yards, Rams TEs in 2024 accounted for 88 Ts, 62 Rs, & 668 Ys. That’s with a 3rd rounder, a 4th rounder, and a 5th round rookie.
The Rams TE is not a superstar, he’s a good and functional and valuable role player. You don’t need to spend high resources to reproduce that.
That leads to a related but not identical issue–why isn’t Hopkins the next guy up? He knows the system, when he plays (which is not often) he performs, and he knows the system. It ought to be the case where they go “we’ll lose Higbee for a while but then Hopkins can replace him.” They don’t seem to be thinking that way. In 2023 they used Allen more than Hopkins. In fact they kept using Higbee even when he was clearly struggling instead of using Hopkins. I wonder what gives there.
znModeratorNew "Xs and Os with @gregcosell" on @TheNFLWire: When the @Lions and @Buccaneers faced off in Week 6, Todd Bowles threw everything he had at Jared Goff, and Goff responded brilliantly. No incompletions vs. pressure. and safety switches did nothing. We'll see what happens now. pic.twitter.com/suXRMjG7DA
— Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) January 18, 2024
znModerator#Rams QB Matthew Stafford to #Lions S Kerby Joseph after his hit on Tyler Higbee: "Hey!! That's a good hit, but you're dirty as f*** and you know it. It's been on tape. I seen it."
Higbee tore his ACL and MCL on the play.pic.twitter.com/jB3lAX48XR
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) January 18, 2024
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakTSTPer@AlbertBreer…Rams QB coach Zac Robinson is interviewing with the Chicago Bears for their open offensive coordinator position. He’s also been requested to interview with the Saints for their open OC position.
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshopSean McVay said TE Tyler Higbee tore his MCL along with his ACL.
znModeratorMatthew Stafford calls out Kerby Joseph during the game for his dirty play, check this out 🎤 pic.twitter.com/kAsiHzKXx9
— x – Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) January 18, 2024
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