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znModeratorHere’s my big insight from the Packers game.
That Aaron Rodgers guy, he’s pretty good.
I don’t get why Snisher didn’t draft him.
znModeratorThe 2015 list presents them with no issues.
How about 2016?
In 2016 they have right now about half the cap free, based on the estimate that 2016 cap space will be around 150 M. That doesn’t count 2 draft classes (2015 and 2016) or Wilson. I list only UFAs. I took Wilson off the list cause they’re obviously extending him. I also bolded the guys I think will be important priorities.
Russell Okung LT Seahawks UFA $8,083,333
Marshawn Lynch RB Seahawks UFA $7,500,000
Brandon Mebane DT Seahawks UFA $5,000,000
Zach Miller TE Seahawks UFA $3,000,000
Tony McDaniel DT Seahawks UFA $2,875,000
Bruce Irvin 43DE Seahawks Option $2,335,550
Jon Ryan P Seahawks UFA $1,516,667
Bobby Wagner ILB Seahawks UFA $1,076,950
Robert Turbin RB Seahawks UFA $639,114
Jeremy Lane CB Seahawks UFA $556,279
J.R. Sweezy OG Seahawks UFA $539,212The impression I get is that they handled the cap well and the Wilson contract will not bite them if they continue to draft at a high level.
The year they have to watch out for is 2017, when virtually their entire secondary (Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor) is up.
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znModeratorIt’ll be interesting to see how long Seattle keeps that D together, once they have to pay Wilson a real salary.
And I believe Seattle’s DC is leaving soon.
Well one DC has already left. This guy came in last year to replace Bradley (who went to coach the Jagz).
But the cap hit thing could be interesting.
I will look sometime and see who will be up in the next couple of years.
znModeratorMueller report criticizes NFL’s handling of Rice incident
Associated Press
Thursday, January 8, 2015
NEW YORK — The long-awaited Mueller report was released Thursday with no unexpected findings: the NFL initially botched the Ray Rice case and had a weak domestic abuse policy, but investigators found no evidence league officials saw tape of Rice hitting his fiancee before it was released.
Owners and executives were quick to say the league had learned from its mistakes and is solidly behind Commissioner Roger Goodell and changes he has made.
The report from a former FBI director hired to investigate said the league’s investigative system relied too much on information from law enforcement after the former Ravens running back knocked out his fiancee in an elevator at the Revel Casino Hotel in Atlantic City, N.J.
The 96-page report by Robert S. Mueller III said NFL employees might have been able to view the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer before handing down the suspension had they tried harder.
“The NFL should have done more with the information it had and should have taken additional steps to obtain all available information about the Feb. 15 incident,” Mueller said in a statement.
The report said a review of league phone records and e-mails showed no evidence that employees had seen the video before it hit the Internet in September.
A law enforcement official showed the Associated Press videos of the incident and said he mailed a DVD to NFL headquarters in April. The officer played a 12-second voice mail from an NFL office number dated April 9, in which a woman verifies receipt of the DVD and says: “You’re right, it’s terrible.”
The league’s private investigation, without subpoena power, did not contact that law enforcement official. The official, who insisted on anonymity because he was not authorized to share the evidence, said Thursday he didn’t speak with NFL investigators.
Mueller found the NFL’s deference to the law enforcement process involving Rice “led to deficiencies in the league’s collection and analysis of information during its investigation,” essentially a de-emphasis on understanding precisely what happened.
“League investigators did not contact any of the police officers who investigated the incident, the Atlantic County Prosecutor’s Office, or the Revel to attempt to obtain or view the in-elevator video or to obtain other information,” the report said.
znModeratorAlot of people are counting out Carolina in Seattle which in no surprise but Carolina matches up well with Seattle.
So much for that.
Another bold prediction flattened by reality.
January 11, 2015 at 1:32 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16270znModeratorwell forget about the gate money. what about the rest of the property, and the money he stands to gain from that? restaurants, shops, concerts, other sporting events besides the nfl.
i don’t know. i think there’s way more potential for him. not the nfl but for him. than in st. louis. a lot of tech companies sprouting up around that area and that means money money money…
I do not know if the proceeds from having a “retail park” even balances the costs of moving, in his lifetime.
January 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16266znModeratorIt’s not about what he can afford. It’s about return on investment. The St. Louis deal would cost less of Stan’s money, but the return isn’t as great either. The value of the Rams doesn’t go up anywhere near as much, and he wouldn’t control the revenue streams that come from the use of the facility.
Well, you only get so much of the revenue stream–the NFL shares its gate money. And it even shares the luxury box money. So, while there will probably be an increase in both, it’s not like it will even balance out the costs of moving in SK’s lifetime.
And the value thing is interesting.
SK personally realizes no financial gain in his lifetime from the increased value. Unless he sells in 4 years when he’s 66.
The allure is simply the value itself.
Which is weird.
To me that’s a compulsion. To overlook any other consideration BECAUSE he has a chance to increase the on-paper value of his property? It just looks like a guy who is driven by that consideration alone, at the expense of other considerations.
In other words, it’s like he trades up for Park Place but doesn’t get rent from it. It’s just owning Park Place that gets him off.
January 11, 2015 at 12:46 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16265znModeratorwv wrote:
Well in any of Fisher’s gazillion years
in Tennessee, did he use a predominantly zone blocking scheme?…i wonder if he thinks that ZBS fits Tre Mason better.
w
vI don’t think it makes much difference. It seems all the teams use parts of different things. Nothing is pure anymore. 4-3 3-4, zone power, west coast not west coast, they all seems to include parts of each other. It is more about philosophy. imo
Well that’s not really the case though with the Shanahan/Kubiak circle. They use predominantly zone schemes, far more than anyone else. It’s not the “mixed bag” you see with most teams. And the Rams under Schott were predominantly a power blocking scheme.
There would be a marked difference. The Shan/Kub circle just runs zone blocking far more than other teams–it’s their thing. It’s their signature.
znModeratorUm…what “sources” would tell a reporter that the seahawks
are gonna make Wilson the highest paid QB ?I doubt he gets more than Rogers got.
w
vWell it will be easy enough to see that when the deal is done.
First the basics. 2nd contracts for qbs work this way…they get more or less the avg. of OTHER starting qbs in their 2nd contract. That avg. goes up across time.
So it depends heavily on the year they come up. So far that avg. is around 19 M…based on the most recent deals.
In 2013 Rodgers got a deal that avgs. 22 M. That’s the highest yearly avg. amount so far, though of course that wasn’t a 2nd contract. (It still contributes to the overall avg,. though).
Now is it possible that the avg. in 2015 is higher? Sure, yeah, it is possible. But of course until someone signs, we don’t know yet.
What DOESN’T happen with these deals is that someone says, you are worth or have earned this amount. It’s not value. It’s the market. The market decides the average and the market goes up a bit each year.
znModeratorWhy Pygmies Aren’t Scared By The ‘Psycho’ Theme
In many ways, music and emotion almost seem interchangeable.
Try listening to the Star Wars’ Cantina Band song without smiling, or to the Psycho soundtrack without feeling a little tense.
But what if you had never heard Western music before. Would these songs still make you feel the same way?
Scientists at McGill University and the University of Montreal got the rare opportunity to answer that question. Their findings, published Wednesday in Frontiers in Psychology, suggest that music isn’t always a universal language.
Deep in the rain forest of the Democratic Republic of Congo, a group of Pygmies lives in near isolation from Western culture. The Mbenzele Pygmies don’t have electricity, radios or cellphones. Many have never heard a note of Brahms or the beat of Beyonce.
On a trip to Congo, anthropologist Nathalie Fernando of the University of Montreal played 11 excerpts of Western songs to 40 Pygmies. Some songs, such as “Cantina,” trigger positive feelings in Westerners. Others, like the Psycho theme or Richard Wagner’s Tristan und Isolde, trigger negative or sad feelings in Westerners.
But the Pygmies didn’t hear the music that way.
The emotional cues in songs, which Westerners pick up on, didn’t mean the same to the Pygmies: They didn’t hear the shrieking strings of the Psycho theme as stressful or the minor chords in Wagner’s Tristan as sad.
“The emotional response to this music was all over the map,” says neuroscientist Stephen McAdams of McGill University, who co-authored the study with Fernando. “The idea of music being a universal language, I don’t really buy it. Some aspects of the emotional response are very specific to that culture.”
Next Fernando had the Pygmies rate their own culture’s music for its emotional quality. Across the board, the Pygmies said all their songs made them feel good — even a song composed for a funeral.
“All of their music is generally upbeat, playful,” says McAdams. The culture just doesn’t have sad songs, he says.
“In the West, we expect to have negative emotions sometimes. We even seek them sometimes,” McAdams says. “When I’m feeling sad, and I really want to enhance it, I’ll put on some sad music.”
But in the Pygmy culture, sad feelings aren’t accepted. “They generally try to get rid of negative emotions by singing happy music,” McAdams says. “One of the main roles of music in their culture is to evacuate bad feelings.”
The Mbenzele Pygmies are known for their rich, complex music. Everyone in the community is a musician, McAdams says. They sing, dance and play instruments, starting at a young age.
“How they think about music is very different from how Westerners think about music,” Fernando said in an email to Goats and Soda. “The Pygmies do not use music to express emotions. It’s not sentimental.”
As hunter-gatherers, the Pygmies depend on the forest for their livelihood. “They feel they have an unwavering relationship with the forest,” Fernando says. “Music is the vital force that links them to the forest, like an umbilical cord.”
That’s why songs must be upbeat, joyful, she says: “Positive energy is used to maintain relations with the spirits that live in the forest. So music should inspire positive energy.”
The Pygmies use music — and positive energy — to help accomplish tasks and overcome problems, Fernando says. “There’s music for each of the daily activities: hunting, fishing, gathering, mourning,” Fernando writes. If there’s a disagreement in the community, music is brought in to fix it.
So are Pygmies always in a good mood?
“They can cry, but not while singing,” Fernando says. “They sing to pass through the tears.”
January 11, 2015 at 12:53 am in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16225znModeratorfrom off the net
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jrry32
Schotty was better here than he was given credit for and he’ll probably do extremely well at UGA and end up with a head coaching gig. Look at how Cam Cameron is doing in college…and he was a 10x worse NFL OC than Schotty. Schotty is no Sean Payton but he’ll be successful at the college level.
Some guys just aren’t rational when it comes to Schotty. Lets also not forget that Schotty was the QB Coach in San Diego while Brees and Rivers were there. Bradford’s mechanics, pocket presence, and pocket movement all improved under Schotty. And his stats have been on the upswing since Schotty arrived.(TD to Int ratio improved dramatically over each of Bradford’s first three 8 week periods with Schotty/Cignetti).
I would like the Kyle Shanahan hire. If it’s not Shanahan, it’s Boras IMO.
Top 10 offense in Houston with Schaub. Top 5 offense in Washington with RGIII. And Cleveland’s offense looked somewhat decent this year with nothing until Hoyer turned to garbage.
Although, I’m not sure how the blocking scheme will work seeing as Boudreau is more of a PBS guy and Shanny is a ZBS guy.
Just requires guys with lateral agility that can cut. Auburn ran some zone in college. Robinson fits either scheme. Saffold fits either scheme as well. Plenty of athleticism. Saffold was destroying people while pulling last year. He’s a former LT. He has the feet to play in a ZBS at OG. But if we go to a zone heavy scheme, Barksdale, I’m not sure he fits. But the other two both have the feet, imo, to handle a ZBS.
znModeratorMy guess is that he ends up someplace.
He may be too old to do that. Lebeau is 78.
To give you some sense of how old that is, he played at Ohio State for Woody Hayes. He was drafted by the NFL in 1959. He went on to play for Detroit, where he was in the same secondary with Night Train Lane.
He be old.
znModeratorYeah, I agree. I think Schotty was under-appreciated. He was a good coach. Note how the Rams offense often got off to a quick start. For example they ranked among the best in the league at scoring on their first possession. I think that speaks to Schotty’s understanding of how to dissect and attack a defense. However, despite adjustments, in the second half they would begin to fade. The third string QB, the reshuffled o-line, the lack of experience and inconsistency at receiver – eventually that will catch up with you. Especially when you are facing the murderers’ row of defenses the Rams faced…Seattle, San Fran, Arizona, etc…
Yes, it’s more like once the defense figured the offense out, the Rams had only so many counters, especially after the Chiefs game, which is the game where their OL got all banged up to hell.
znModeratorfrom off the net
==RLA314
Carolina=Rams D are very similar
Alot of people are counting out Carolina in Seattle which in no surprise but Carolina matches up well with Seattle. Their games are all about defense and hard mouth football. Just like our games between Seattle. Carolina’s defense is almost a clone to ours. They don’t blitz as much as us but their D-line gets to the QB just like ours. And both of our LB cores get the football fast. And both of our secondaries are similar, no studs but decent enough to do the job. The only difference is that they have Kuechly which is a fuc#in stud. Hands down the best MLB in the league. Anyways expect this to be a low scoring game and close by the way.
January 10, 2015 at 9:10 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16194znModeratorYou know I have been thinking about this KS angle.
He WILL bring that stretch/zone-blocking offense with him, and it does gain yards. Denver with Shanahan sr., Houston with Kubiak, now Baltimore with Kubiak. Even a couple of years in Washington (1st in rushing in 2012, 5th in 2013).
Now some minutia stuff.
I don’t know about Boudreau coaching it. I think I remember that he doesn’t lean toward it. But then who knows.
Also…interesting thing. This kind of running game favors smaller, more athletic O-linemen. Well, what about doing it with BIGGER more athletic linemen? LIke Robinson and Saffold. Saffold is prized for his pulling as a guard…how far is that from playing in this kind of offense?
Here’s something on it with a lot of pics. I don’t post it just link it cause pics pics pics.
An introduction to the Gary Kubiak offense
http://baltimoresportsandlife.com/baltimore-ravens/introduction-gary-kubiak-offense/
Football is back and the Baltimore Ravens have a new offense to acclimatize to. New offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak has installed his version of the west coast offense passing game combined with the zone-blocking scheme. While we only saw the Ravens starters for one series in their opening preseason game last week, we did get a glimpse of what is to come from the new system.
The foundation of Kubiak’s offense is the zone running game. Every team in the NFL will mix between power and zone running schemes, but Kubiak comes from the Mike Shanahan coaching tree that uses almost exclusively zone blocking.
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January 10, 2015 at 8:59 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16193znModeratorI think Flacco is the most underrated QB in the league.
Flacco is clutch when they have the running game and OL
Or…Flacco HAS BEEN clutch in those circumstances.
Mostly.
Not completely entirely. To a complete and full extent.
So it seems.
January 10, 2015 at 8:51 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16190znModeratorI don’t know why this hasn’t occurred to anyone yet.
But all of this is pretty clearly Bulger’s fault.
Yeah I know, sometimes the obvious answer is the hardest to find.
znModeratorBut this team? It has yet to learn how to play competitively.
Explore. Explain. Develop.
That is, you use that word “competitively” a lot, and I think you and I mean different things by it. Or there are nuance-level differences. But that’s neither here nor there, that I might differ in how I use it…it just leads me to ask what you mean by it.
I am not debating or disagreeing. Just expressing basic curiosity.
Others can chime in too…what do people mean when they say a team knows how to play competitively? What does that look like, what does it consist of?
January 10, 2015 at 6:28 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16186znModeratorBut then the Jacksonville fans
are screwed.Cant you think of a win, win, win
solution?w
vYes that;s it right there.
znModeratorif you watch the game watch the Ravens running attack
That;s Kubiak. He’s the Baltimore OC. Kubiak runs that zone-blocking scheme he got from Shanahan Sr in Denver. Kyle (who is of course an OC candidate) inherited that scheme from Dad. In fact, for a few years there, Kyle was Kubiak’s OC in Houston.
If they hire KS it will be that offense.
Oh and btw last year the Ravens OL was a mess. They both fixed the OL (and not expensively) and changed the offense in one year. And here they are. Those kinds of things don’t have to be setbacks. Not with a veteran qb.
…January 10, 2015 at 5:25 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16164znModeratorMaybe there’s a double-secret deal or at least
winks-and-nods to the St.Louis folks that they
will be first in line for the next expansion team
if the Rams leave.There hasn’t been any expansion talk. Besides…that would make the divisions lop-sided. Cant be having lopsided divisions.
I think St. Louis would be getting the Jagz. Or at least there would be some efforts in that direction.
January 10, 2015 at 3:15 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16138znModeratorSteven Gerwel @Steve_Ger 22m22 minutes ago
Shanahan mini has 3 top5 & 4 top10 offenses in his 6 yrs as coordinator. Never finished below 18th. Meanwhile Schotty has excuses. #Rams 2/2I think the “excuses” mantra always just means the person using it is just not going to be making a good argument.
Numbers out of context are meaningless. Anyone who would judge a coordinator just on season averages alone is just deliberately avoiding looking at the context.
Cause then if they did I could challenge them.
I could say, name coordinators who did well in terms of season avg offensive rankings who had both a beat-up OL and backup caliber qbs.
If you can’t name examples, the idea that that is an “excuse” obviously looks like bs. Cause it’s just an unreal expectation that is never met in reality.
Speaking of context, the Cleveland offense last year was 23rd, which is below 18th. Now what are KS’s “excuses” in Cleveland? Oh yeah qb issues. (And that’s in spite of having a top OL.) Sound familiar? Funny how that works.
January 10, 2015 at 2:30 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16121znModeratorKroenke should build the stadium in LA and lease it to the Chargers and Raiders while keeping the Rams in St. Louis until the day he sells the Rams to be able to buy the Broncos to have a monopoly of pro sports in Denver. Then he could spend more time in Aspen.
Depends. Can you own a stadium in one city and a team in another. Isn’t leasing to another team basically a danger-fraught situation that raises all sorts of competitive advantage issues?
St.Louis Rams are playing the Chargers in LA. Suddenly that week there’s an issue with groundskeeping. Coincidentally. Etc.
January 10, 2015 at 2:27 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16119znModeratorbut also, zn. there were rules in place before that supposedly prevented teams from moving and they still moved. so am i now to believe that these new rules will actually prohibit them from moving? again maybe they will. but not for a move to los angeles. yes. a move to san antonio. to orlando. but not los angeles. i firmly believe that.
No they did not have the same rules. The old rules gave them no enforcement power and no spelled-out consequences. That’s precisely what they added. If you violate those rules and the league doesn’t approve your move, you can get royally screwed. The option would be to leave the NFL entirely and start your own league.
So given the heavy enforcement power they gave themselves, the real question is whether the league will approve it, thereby making enforcement stuff kind of irrelevant. If you’re approved then obviously you didn’t move without approval.
Will he be approved? That really depends. It’s no more clearcut than anything else in this. Truth is…we don’t know on that. We’re all speculating when it comes to that part of it.
January 10, 2015 at 2:20 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16117znModeratorI don’t think either of those hold up, especially if you’re looking at contesting that in a court.
That’s where none of us know but it’s fair to speculate.
In terms of the court though…no. Nothing won’t hold up in court, because these are league-instituted rules internally governing a sports league. YOu sign on to those when you buy a team and not everyone just has a right to own a team in the NFL. They vet ownership. It is not free enterprise in the ordinary sense of that.
The internal governing of a league through shared and transparent rules is not something you can blow up in court….UNLESS you also want to jeopardize the league’s exemption from anti-trust law. Which would bugger them beyond belief.
So regardless what happens…the “won’t hold up in court” thing has nothing to do with it. The league is an association of owners with agreed upon internal rules governing ownership. Heck they even have the power to suspend a given owner (Irsay). The courts don’t apply here.
January 10, 2015 at 2:13 pm in reply to: Rams granted permission to speak with Greg Roman and Kyle Shanahan #16112znModeratorRams seek interviews with Kyle Shanahan, Greg Roman
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams have officially dived into the pool of available offensive coordinator candidates.
According to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, the Rams have requested permission to interview in-limbo San Francisco 49ers offensive coordinator Greg Roman and former Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan for their open offensive coordinator position. Neither name should come as much of a surprise, and both occupied spots on the initial list I posted after Brian Schottenheimer departed for Georgia’s offensive coordinator position.
Shanahan has close ties to Rams coach Jeff Fisher. Mike Shanahan and Fisher are close friends, and Kyle is Mike’s son. Fisher and Kyle Shanahan have known each other for a long time, and Shanahan would be a fit philosophically for what Fisher wants his offense to be.
After Shanahan asked out of his contract with the Browns this week, his name immediately popped up in a variety of places. He interviewed for the Buffalo Bills head coaching job on Thursday, and his name has been brought up as the likely coordinator choice for Seattle defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, should Quinn land a head coaching job, which seems most likely in San Francisco or with the New York Jets. In other words, the Rams figure to have plenty of competition for Shanahan’s services should Fisher want to bring him on board.
As for Roman, he might be the candidate that makes the most sense from a pure football perspective. He is well respected by Rams defenders, who have tried to defend his running game in recent years, and his offense’s success with the ground game and lack of turnovers would seem to appeal to Fisher’s preferred offensive approach. Roman’s San Francisco offenses have finished in the top four in rushing in each of the past four season. It also doesn’t hurt than Roman is familiar with the NFC West and would be able to hit the ground running in terms of preparation for games against Seattle, San Francisco and Arizona.
Like with Shanahan, the Rams face plenty of competition for Roman. He’s technically still under contract with the 49ers, but after Jim Harbaugh’s departure, San Francisco has allowed Roman to explore other opportunities. He’s already interviewed for Tampa Bay’s vacancy (since filled by Dirk Koetter), the Buffalo head coaching position, and is scheduled to interview for Jacksonville’s coordinator opening on Saturday. Cleveland has also sought an interview with Roman.
But it’s possible Roman might never make it out of Jacksonville. His ties to Jaguars general manager Dave Caldwell run deep, as the pair were teammates and roommates at John Carroll University.
Fisher has generally moved slower on such hires, but with names like Shanahan and Roman drawing plenty of interest elsewhere, it’s possible something could materialize faster this time around.
January 10, 2015 at 2:07 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16110znModeratorbut in the end what happened after those teams moved? a slap on the wrist?
What happened after those teams moved is that the league responded to rogue moves like that by building in rules to prevent it.
In other words, precisely because they had no recourse before, they built in recourse.
So let’s say there’s no law against stealing cars. Cars get stolen. So they pass laws against stealing cars. You can’t then say that stealing cars is okay because before, nothing happened to you if you did it. They reacted to that situation by passing laws against it.
It was precisely because they had nothing but wrist slaps BEFORE that they built in rules giving them enforcement power NOW.
You know that, for one thing, a team that moves without league approval can then be denied any access to the tv contract revenue. And that’s among other things they can do. So they are F-ing serious about that.
Now the issue is, will the league give SK approval? That’s where we get into the fine print.
For example, the rules demand that you make a fair effort to negotiate with the local market before moving, AND you can’t move just to get richer.
Now it’s pretty obvious that SK completely ignored the “fair effort” part of it, though he did try to crassly manipulate the situation to set up a “too little too late” case.
It depends on whether the league believes in its own rules, and how much, and whether or not they are willing to live with the obvious “SK is an exception” thing. In other words, whether or not they will countenance obvious hypocrisy in the name of expedience for something they like.
And maybe not everyone will do that. They only need 9 to block it.
znModerator60 percent of ticket sales go to the home team and the remaining 40 percent goes to the revenue pool. In the new deal, a 10 percent local revenue tax on organizations considered to be large market teams has been added.
Good find, that article.
Anyway let;s look at whether or not the LEAGUE gets money from luxury boxes.
Let;s pretend that the luxury box sales in LA are around 138 M, a figure already mentioned in this discussion.
The league gets 40% of that, or 55.2 M. If I read it right, they also get a 10% tax on big market revenues. So that’s 10% of 60% which is another 8.3 M (appx). So the league gets 63.5 M, and that’s split among 31 teams, which is 2 M each, give or take.
Which just drives home the point that the league does not benefit financially from a move.
It doesn’t hurt them either.
But it just means increased league revenue will not be an argument FOR league approval.
In comparison each team gets around 180 something M from the tv contracts.
January 10, 2015 at 1:48 pm in reply to: new relocation thread! starting with JT: Kroenke faces rough road out of town #16104znModeratorWhats the downside? Why would owners vote against it?
It’s 1. losing a team in St. Louis, which they don’t prize as an outcome, and 2. whether or not they meant it when they put up barriers to lone owner moves of the Cleveland to Baltimore, Baltimore to IND type.
If #2 no longer means anything to them, then, so be it. But then why are those rules THERE.
Cause they are not going to have an easy time arguing that those rules are there for a reason except when it comes to Stan Kroenke. Even a socio-pathic billionaire team owner is going to notice the problems with that argument.
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