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znModeratorhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/01/pfts-week-four-picks-6/
by Mike Florio
Rams at Cardinals
MDS’s take: The Cardinals have been dominant in their first three games, and they’ll dominate again when the Rams come to town on Sunday.
MDS’s pick: Cardinals 38, Rams 14.
Florio’s take: This is the kind of game the Rams find a way to win, or at least to be competitive. But the Cardinals have looked too good this year, and the even the very best the Rams can do may not be good enough.
Florio’s pick: Cardinals 30, Rams 23.
October 1, 2015 at 7:21 pm in reply to: NFL's 'O-line epidemic' threatens QB star system…+ Patz change nature of OL? #31533
znModeratorBill Belichick made a simple change to his offensive line that could revolutionize the NFL
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-belichick-made-simple-change-155902845.html
The New England Patriots’ offense is off to a ferocious start. New England has scored 119 points through the first three games of the season, second in the NFL and the most points through three games in Patriots history.
But beyond Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski, and Julian Edelman — not to mention Bill Belichick and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels at the helm — there is a less obvious reason to explain New England’s fast start: the fact they are revolutionizing their offensive line.
The Boston Herald took a deep dive on the frequency with which New England has been rotating its offensive line, and it’s unlike anything else you’ll find in football. Through their first 30 offensive possessions this year, the Patriots have rolled out nine offensive-line combinations (not including kneels to end halves), and they deployed a 10th unique combination on goal-line packages against the Jaguars that resulted in three LeGarrette Blount rushing touchdowns. Against the Steelers in Week 1, they didn’t begin consecutive possessions with the same offensive-line combination until the sixth and seventh possessions.
Most of these rotations have come at the guard position. Three linemen have taken a lot of snaps on both sides of the line, which — again — is quite unlike what other teams do. Josh Kline has played 10 series at left guard and 14 at right; Shaq Mason has played 20 at left guard; and Tre’ Jackson has played 16 at right guard. Only David Andrew, the team’s center, has played all snaps.
The idea to rotate linemen over the course of the game may not sound particularly groundbreaking. But compared with how the rest of the NFL approaches the offensive line, this is quite unusual.
In general, teams will take their best combination of linemen and use them all game long, rather than switching them out as New England is. The reasoning behind this traditional approach to line play isn’t all that hard to fathom: Teams want to keep their best players in for as many possessions as possible, and switching it up will mess with communication and chemistry.
But Belichick has changed that, at least so far this season. As the Herald noted, this rotation is inevitably causing opposing defenses to prepare not just for different packages, but also for different combinations of linemen within one individual package and within different packages.
Dave DeGulielmo, New England’s offensive line coach, told the Herald that there are specific strategical reasons to explain the frequency of these rotations — though don’t expect him to say what those reasons are.
“It’s not done just randomly. There’s a specific reason why we rotate guys when we do, where we rotate them,” DeGuglielmo said. “There’s a rhyme and reason to everything.”
Because it’s Belichick and the Patriots we’re talking about, this is probably true. But the rotations can also be explained by two more practical reasons: youth and injuries.
Both Jackson and Mason are rookies, so rotating them out allows for them to receive more in-game coaching than if they were expected to play all game long in front of Brady. It also puts less pressure on them to maintain a high level of play all game long. The same holds true for Kline, who is only in his 3rd season and saw limited time in his first two. Both Brian Stork and Ryan Wendell, mainstays on the Patriots line, have missed time this season with injuries, which can also explain why more lineman are seeing more time.
As the Herald notes, it’s not implausible that Belichick is simply extending the try-out period into the regular season because of the youth at the position, and once the best combination of the offensive line becomes clear, he’ll stick with it all season long.
But again, this is Belichick we’re talking about, so it’s not crazy to think we’ll soon see teams copying this rotation strategy. This could mean that in the future, the offensive line is treated a lot more like the defensive line: certain offensive linemen with specific skill sets will be brought in exclusively for rushing plays, or goal line plays, and so forth, just as certain defensive linemen are used for pass-rushing or crowding the box. If what the Patriots are doing holds on, the whole position could be changed.
Or, Belichick will make up his mind on his players and stop the rotations all together. Either, or.
znModeratorWeek 4 preview: Rams at Cardinals
By The Sports Xchange
http://www.footballinsiders.com/week-4-preview-rams-at-cardinals/
October 1, 2015
St. Louis Rams (1-2) at Arizona Cardinals (3-0)
Sunday, 4:25 p.m. ET, at University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Ariz. – TV: FOX
*TV announcers: Thom Brennaman, Charles Davis, Tony Siragusa
*Keys to the game: QB Carson Palmer and WR Larry Fitzgerald are trying to prove 30-somethings are superstars, too, combining for 333 yards, five touchdowns and sparking the Cardinals to an NFL-high 126 points through three games. The Rams sachet into the desert with 16 total points staring into the teeth of a defense with seven takeaways. St. Louis might not solve the Cardinals’ five-defensive back base defense without better play from the offensive line and more fireworks from QB Nick Foles, who threw for 411 yards against Arizona last season while playing for the Eagles.
Arizona’s defensive line has caused problems consistently, and the Rams are overmatched up front. That doesn’t bode well for a ground game yet to get going, and the Cardinals won’t let the Rams’ receivers off the line without a fight.
Arizona’s points have come in most every fashion – four returns, seven TD passes – and starting RB Andre Ellington could be back this week. The Cardinals have an impressive offensive arsenal that affords the ability to play up-tempo or engage in an alley brawl and Palmer has been sacked just once this season.
*Matchup to watch – Rams DT Aaron Donald vs. Cardinals offensive line: Donald whipped RG Jonathan Cooper and injured Cardinals QB Drew Stanton the last time he played Arizona and St. Louis leads the NFL with 13 sacks. The Cardinals would benefit from the return of LG Mike Iupati.
*Player spotlight – Cardinals S Deone Bucannon: A hybrid defender who plays in the box as a linebacker and also flips his hips to run with backs and tight ends, his versatility is a major factor in Arizona’s thriving secondary.
*Fast facts: Only four other teams in NFL history have scored 126 points in the first three games of a season. … The Rams have lost three straight meetings by a combined 43 points.
WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
The Cardinals are on Cloud Nine and building chemistry with contributions all around the roster. The Rams enter with a puncher’s chance because of their defensive line, but St. Louis hasn’t shown it can keep pace with Carson Palmer.
October 1, 2015 at 5:25 pm in reply to: JT w/ Frank Cusumano on CBS Sports 920 AM – more JT wo/ Frank #31524
znModeratorSegment 6 – Jim Thomas 10/01/15
JT starts at 1:05
znModeratorFasten those seat belts: Rams heading into No Fly Zone
Jim Thomas
Seattle has its Legion of Boom. In Arizona, the Cardinals secondary calls itself the No Fly Zone. And for opposing quarterbacks and wide receivers, these are anything but friendly skies.
Arizona’s defense has 45 interceptions since head coach Bruce Arians arrived in the Valley of the Sun in 2013. That’s second-most in the league over that span, behind only Buffalo’s 47.
“It’s a high priority for us to have big plays, splash plays defensively,” Arians said Wednesday during a conference call with St. Louis reporters. “Negative plays creating turnovers. All our defensive backs have really good ball skills. We don’t want guys who can cover but can’t catch.
“When those opportunities come and you drop interceptions, they always come back to bite you. But all our guys have very good ball skills and they very seldom drop one.”
The Cardinals don’t just have a knack for getting an interception; they do something with the football once they grab it. To wit, Arizona has scored 12 defensive touchdowns since the start of the ‘13 season, an NFL best.
Ten of those 12 scores have come on interception returns, with the other two coming on fumble recovery returns. Throw in two kickoff returns for scores and that’s 14 TDs in 51 games for the Big Red under Arians not scored by the offense.
Although it won’t guarantee victory, a good starting point when playing Arizona is this: Make the offense beat you. Avoid the return touchdowns.
Last Nov. 9 at Arizona, the Rams trailed 17-14 midway through the fourth quarter. But an interception return for a TD and a recovered fumble returned for a score turned a close contest into a 31-14 rout in what was quarterback Austin Davis’ last start for the Rams.
A year earlier, in a 30-10 Rams loss on Dec. 8, 2013 in Arizona, the Cardinals scored on a “pick 6” and also tacked on two points with a safety. In the 2013 season opener, Arizona also had an interception return for a TD, but the Rams rallied to win that one, 27-24.
The Cardinals were up to their usual hijinks last week against San Francisco. On the first pass by 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, cornerback Justin Bethel swooped in on an underthrown pass intended for tight end Vernon Davis and returned it 21 yards for a score.
On San Francisco’s second series, Arizona’s Tyrann Mathieu broke quickly on another underthrown Kaepernick pass, this one intended for Anquan Boldin in the slot, and returned the interception 33 yards for another TD.
Just like that Arizona led 14-0, and the unbeaten Cardinals (3-0) were off and running to a 47-7 win.
How do the Rams avoid similar disasters against a deep, talented Arizona secondary? For starters, offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti says the Rams can’t play scared and must trust their system.
“The quarterback’s going to trust what he sees and he’s going to play decisive,” Cignetti said of quarterback Nick Foles. “He’s not going to worry about who’s on the other side, but he’s certainly going to respect them. Once again, it comes down to the St. Louis Rams. It’s all about us, and how we go out there and prepare and perform.”
Foles has taken good care of the football in his first three starts as a Ram. His only interception in 87 attempts this season came on a throw he conceded was forced against Pittsburgh – a deep throw to tight end Lance Kendricks in the fourth quarter.
“I’m gonna play like I always have,” Foles said, when asked about the Arizona secondary. “Run our offense, run what we do. I have great respect for those (Cardinals) guys but when we go out there, I expect my guys to win in coverage, win on routes and one-on-ones. I won’t shy away from that.”
When you break it down to the basics, coach Jeff Fisher said it’s simply a matter of the quarterback making good decisions. Kaepernick ended up throwing four interceptions against Arizona and threw a couple off his back foot with pass-rushers in his face.
In instances like that, it’s best to throw the ball away or even take the sack.
“Nick’s got to make good decisions and put the ball in places where they can’t contest the throw,” Fisher said.
The headliner in the No Fly Zone is cornerback Patrick Peterson, a four-time Pro Bowler who has great size (6-1, 219) and closing speed for the position. Mathieu, aka the Honey Badger, can play free safety or the nickel cornerback spot and has excellent instincts and good ball skills.
Jerraud Powers, who had one of those four INTs against San Francisco, is underrated at the other corner. Second-year safety Deone Bucannon, a player the Rams looked at prior to the 2014 draft, frequently lines up at linebacker (similar to Mark Barron of the Rams).
“They communicate well,” Fisher said. “They don’t make any mistakes. They run well and they tackle. That’s the most impressive thing about their defense, is they’re an outstanding tackling defense.”
So while the challenge for Foles will be avoiding bad decisions, Rams receivers need to be concerned with gaining separation and getting yards after the catch. Because the Cardinals can shut you down on the back end.
San Francisco has some talented pass-catchers. Davis, Boldin and Torrey Smith have five Pro Bowls and 1,603 career receptions between them. They combined for two catches against the Cardinals.
“They disguise a lot of things very well,” Rams tight end Jared Cook said. “They have some good players – that allows them to play a lot of different coverages that most teams don’t.
“Usually, most teams might have one good corner and maybe two average corners. They have two really good corners and two good safeties. So they can mix guys up a lot, play guys in the box. They’re very versatile in the secondary.”
znModeratorNo Excuses For Rams. Just Look at Arizona
Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/30/no-excuses-for-rams-just-look-at-arizona/
When the Rams released running back Isaiah Pead, the 50th overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, it was the latest example of how the regime of GM Les Snead and head coach Jeff Fisher has failed to maximize the opportunity to transform a losing team into a winner.
isaiah peadThe Rams released RB Isaiah Pead on Tuesday.
No question, Snead and Fisher have improved this roster after taking charge of a team that had gone 15-65 in the five-season stretch (2007-2011) that preceded their arrival. And in some areas, the upgrades are substantial, especially on the defensive side. But the point is, Snead-Fisher didn’t take full advantage of having more draft picks (37) in their hands than all but two teams since 2012. (San Francisco had 40 picks; Minnesota 39.) And over the past four drafts, the Rams had more selections in the first three rounds (17) than any NFL team.
The 2012 draft is telling. The Rams had four of the first 50 choices overall and came away with defensive tackle Michael Brockers (14th), wide receiver Brian Quick (33rd), cornerback Janoris Jenkins (39th) and Pead (50.)
Brockers is a good player. Jenkins is talented, and he’s made some big plays, but he’s also suffered some burn marks with his aggressive, gambling style. Quick, a non-factor, has been excluded from the game-day roster over the first three weeks. And Pead was a flat-out bust. A 50 percent “hit” rate on top 50 draft choices doesn’t qualify as a success.
It’s fair to second-guess the decision to trade down from the No. 45 spot to the No. 50 slot to select Pead; by doing so the Rams bypassed a chance to draft future All-Pro middle linebacker Bobby Wagner who was taken by Seattle at No. 47. And wideout Alshon Jeffery went to Chicago on the 45th selection; he’s pulled in 2,999 receiving yards and 20 touchdown passes for the Bears.
Snead and Fisher deserve credit for pulling the Rams out of the muck. They went 7-8-1 in 2012, and followed up with a 7-9 mark in 2013. The progress was understandably viewed as a build-up to a breakout season in 2014, but the Rams stalled and went 6-10. And with upcoming road games at Arizona and Green Bay the Rams are looking at a strong possibility of staggering out to a 1-4 start in 2015.
Instead of winning more frequently in their third and fourth seasons under Fisher-Snead, the Rams have gone in the other direction. They’re losing more often, having dropped five of their last six games since late last season. They’re 7-12 since the beginning of 2014, mostly held back by a stagnant offense.
Instability at the quarterback position in 2013-2014 was certainly a factor that shouldn’t be overlooked. But with quarterback Nick Foles in place — joined by wide receivers, running backs, tight ends and offensive linemen brought in by Snead-Fisher — the Rams should be trending favorably on offense.
jeff fisher-7Under Fisher, the Rams are 21-29-1.
After all, the Rams have invested 21 draft choices in the offense during the last four drafts — and supplemented the draft-first strategy with prominent free-agent signings and the Foles deal to stimulate their attack. But after three weeks, the Rams are last in the NFL in offensive points from scrimmage, with 43.
Snead-Fisher are into their fourth cycle of growing and developing the roster. But for the fourth consecutive year, the Rams entered 2015 season as the NFL’s youngest team.
The Perpetual Rebuilding Process is still in effect.
Question: why?
The Arizona Cardinals didn’t need four seasons to construct a winner.
In 2012, Snead-Fisher’s first season in St. Louis, the Cardinals went 5-11 and finished in last place in the NFC West.
After the ’12 season Cardinals team president and de facto owner Michael Bidwill decided to install new leadership at the top of the football operation. Bidwill promoted Steve Keim to GM and hired Bruce Arians as head coach. (Keim, by the way, was interviewed for the job that went to Snead.)
Despite starting a year later than Fisher-Snead, the Keim-Arians combination has guided their team to the league’s fifth-best winning percentage (.686) since relaunching the Cardinals in 2013.
The Cardinals are 24-11 over that time and made the playoffs last season.
The Rams are 14-21 over the same 35-game stretch.
The Rams haven’t had a winning season since 2003, and were last spotted in the postseason back in 2004. And if quarterback Carson Palmer can keep his knees intact, the Cardinals will likely zoom into the playoffs for the second consecutive season.
Keim and Arians have found the right balance in their roster composition, mixing draft picks with shrewd free-agent signings and the pivotal trade for Palmer before the 2013 season.
Keim and Arians have taken a more urgent approach to winning, bringing in multiple starters and contributors that range from age 27 to age 36. That list includes Palmer, left offensive tackle Jared Veldheer, tight end Jermaine Gresham, linebacker Sean Weatherspoon, tight end Darren Fells, defensive end Frostee Rucker, linebacker LaMarr Woodley, running back Chris Johnson, guard Ted Larsen, defensive back Jerraud Powers and guard Mike Iupati.
Iupati — a three-time Pro Bowl choice and a bull in San Francisco’s running game during his first five NFL seasons — was sidelined with a sprained knee and missed the first three games and is listed as questionable for Sunday’s game vs. the visiting Rams.
The Cardinals also gave wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald, 32, a new two-year deal before the season. Fitzgerald was seemingly in decline before Arians moved him to the slot-receiver position. And the revived Fitzgerald has 23 catches for 333 yards and five touchdowns in Arizona’s first three games.
With this blend of young players and viable veterans the Cardinals have jumped out to a 3-0 start this season, outscoring their three victims by 77 points. It’s early, but according to ESPN Stats & Information the Cardinals’ chances of winning the NFC West are 86.5 percent, and their chances of making the playoffs are 97.2 percent — with a projected final record of 12-4.
Keeping Palmer healthy is the overriding key to Arizona’s success, and last season he went down in with the second torn knee ligament of his career while playing the Rams in the sixth game. The offense gradually withered, and to no one’s surprise the Cards were rubbed out of the playoffs at Carolina in a game started by third-string quarterback Ryan Lindley.
The Cardinals are a different team with Palmer running point. As noted by Michael Silver of NFL.com, Palmer is the first Cardinals’ quarterback to win nine consecutive starts since 1948, and he’s 16-2 in his last 18 starts. Three games into 2015, Palmer is tied with Tom Brady for the most touchdown passes (9), and is ranked fourth in passer rating (117.8.)
Even with a heavy veteran influence and Palmer’s inherent injury risk, Arizona hasn’t sacrificed the future by assembling an old , brittle and vulnerable team. Going into the season, only 11 NFL teams had a younger roster than the Cardinals. By my quick count — which means it’s unofficial — 43 players on the Big Red’s current 53-man roster were brought in by Keim-Arians since their early-2013 hiring. That includes 19 draft picks and 16 free-agent signings.
It’s worth repeating: the Snead-Fisher Rams had a one-year head start on the Keim-Arians Cardinals.
And when you look at where these two teams stand as they prepare for Sunday’s game at Arizona, there’s no excuse for the Rams to be lagging behind the Cardinals.
znModeratorIf we just discuss the Defense against the Steelers, then I agree with Laram.
I agree with a lot of his stuff too. Especially—
Once the Steelers got in the redzone the field shrank, and the Rams had less field to cover.
It worked. The Steelers got a lot of yards, but only one TD.
you always want to make the qb hold the ball a beat longer, to give the pass rush an opportunity.
But that can be accomplished by playing tight coverage, whether off or on man.
znModeratorI am not talking about the defense specifically. I am talking about the entire philosophy of Fisher’s approach to the game. It brings with it certain pluses and minuses.
Fair enough.
znModeratorMore focused Alec Ogletree piling up numbers for Rams defense
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — The numbers next to St. Louis Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree’s name at the end of the 2014 season were mostly in line with what he’d done as a rookie the previous year.
For the second consecutive year, Ogletree had wrested the team’s tackles lead from middle linebacker James Laurinaitis and made his share of contributions in coverage with two interceptions and 11 pass breakups. He even chipped in four forced fumbles, down from the six of his rookie season but still an impressive total.
But when Ogletree scanned the numbers, he saw one that made him decidedly unhappy. Under the column for sacks, he saw a big round number but not the kind he’d prefer: It was a goose egg.
That sack total, or lack thereof, was enough to help Ogletree refocus in the offseason and shed about 10 pounds in an effort to be quicker to the quarterback.
“Alec came back into camp this year in phenomenal shape,” Laurinaitis said. “The year before, year 2, he had a lot of cheeseburgers in the offseason. He came in as a rookie as a thin guy, ran around really well. A lot of times after that rookie year sometimes, you have got a lot of time and there’s a lot of food you can eat. And my man was a little heavy and really determined to come back at what he played at his rookie year.”
Just three games into this season, Ogletree is playing like one of the league’s best young defenders. According to the coaching staff’s review of game film, he has been credited with 44 tackles, including an 18-stop outburst in Week 2 that is the most by a Rams defender since London Fletcher’s 21 in Week 2 of the 2001 season.
Against Pittsburgh last week, Ogletree had two sacks, which eclipsed the 1.5 he had for his entire first two seasons in the league combined.
“That was a big thing for me; the scheme that we’re in is very aggressive,” Ogletree said. “You’re going to have your opportunities to get to the quarterback but you have to finish your rush.”
As the weakside linebacker in the Rams’ base 4-3, Ogletree’s primary job isn’t to rush the passer. But for any player in a Gregg Williams defense, there’s always a good chance you will be called on to attack quarterbacks at some point. The level of success you have doing it is directly proportional to the frequency with which those chances are provided.
“He’s about production so he’s seen it and he wants me to get back there and if you’re able to get back there, you know he’s going to keep calling it,” Ogletree said.
With that in mind, Ogletree set about eliminating things from his diet and reported to camp in better shape but also with a better understanding of offensive formations and how play designs work. In other words, Ogletree wanted to play faster while the game around him slowed down.
“I feel a lot more comfortable in the defense,” Ogletree said. “I think it shows with me being able to play fast and go side to side and make plays.
“It’s definitely slowing down for me. After you see certain schemes and stuff over and over, you just kind of get used to it and you know what’s about to happen. This offseason I wanted to take more of a mental approach to the game and just try to learn what the offense is trying to do to us.”
On that side of things, Ogletree has continued to attach himself to Laurinaitis, who is known for his voracious film study. Ogletree said there wasn’t any one “aha” moment, but he feels more comfortable diagnosing things before they happen and then simply reacting. To be sure, there are still hiccups in his game, namely when it comes to coverage, but those haven’t been as glaring early in the season as they were in his first two years.
With the mental side improving and the physical side squared away, the Rams believe there’s no limit to where the 24-year old Ogletree’s career could go from here.
“He’s a smart, instinctual player,” Laurinaitis said. “The sky is the limit for him on how good he wants to be so he keeps getting smarter and smarter and when you combine your instincts with how well he knows the defense, I think you’re really starting to see him blossom.”
znModeratorFisher’s style keeps the game close against the good teams and it keeps the games close against the bad teams.
A lot of the time it does that. But then they also held Denver to 7 points. And, mostly, holding a top offense to 12 points is not supposed to lead to a “close game.” The Rams defense held the Seattle offense to 16 points. 16 points is only a close game with this offense.
The interesting thing is that I don’t see the objections leading anywhere.
One objection is, it cuts down on Rams sacks. Rams are tied for 1st in the league in sacks.
Another problem I see with the arguments against the Rams approach is that no one balances it with a list of the drawbacks to press/man coverage. Instead they act like there are no drawbacks and therefore don’t recognize that with defensive systems, you’re choosing your poison.
Another problem I see is that some say the Rams D is predictable. Yet no defense is more routine in its ways than Seattle, and they were #1 last year. Seattle doesn’t fool you, Seattle says here we are try and beat what we do, and then outplays you. It’s talent and execution.
It could actually be that the Wms. defense is a good one and that we’re all complaining for no good reason.
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September 30, 2015 at 10:30 am in reply to: Rams sign Toon to PS, move McGee to reg roster, and cut Pead. #31454
znModeratorA 2nd round bust at RB is annoying.
Pead was one of the most annoying draft choices
i can remember in the last ten years.w
vLast 10 years? No. Cause last 10 years goes back to 2006 and includes Klopfenstein, Leonard, and Avery.
If nothing else IMO his work as a gunner on special teams makes him better than those 3.
Plus across the last 10 years the 2nd round picks include JL, Saffold, Kendricks, Quick, and Jenkins. Which isn’t too bad at all.
znModeratorfrom off the net
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LMU93
FootballOutsiders: Cardinals #1 this week..
They have Arizona rated as the #1 team in the league through three weeks. 3rd best offense, 3rd best defense, 5th special teams…
Rams are 17th overall (21st on offense, 8th defense, 8th special teams).
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2015/week-3-dvoa-ratings
Foles is rated 15th among 32 starting QBs.
Britt 14th out of 74 ranked WRs (Austin 70th).
Cook and Kendricks 18th and 28th, respectively, among 40 ranked TEs.
The Rams OL is rated 29th in run blocking, 16th in pass protection.
The Rams DL 11th vs. the run, 1st in pass rush.September 30, 2015 at 10:04 am in reply to: Rams sign Toon to PS, move McGee to reg roster, and cut Pead. #31450
znModeratorStill a good draft: Brockers, Jenkins, Johnson. Quick?
And Zuerelein.
My thing is, from looking around and doing some calculating, that you have a good draft if you have around 40% hits…a hit being, a starter or a significant role player.
In that draft the Rams hit on 5 of 10 picks, assuming Quick comes back and is at least a good rotation receiver (ie. role player).
So, yeah, 50% is good.
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znModeratorRams can beat Arizona. I think they would have last year, except for A.Davis.
znModeratorTrailer 2.
znModeratorRams hold steady at No. 19 in Power Rankings
Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21925/rams-hold-steady-at-no-19-in-power-rankings
The St. Louis Rams didn’t budge from their spot at No. 19 in the ESPN NFL Power Rankings after their 12-6 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
In some ways, that’s probably fitting for a team with an offense that hasn’t moved much in the past two weeks, either. After riding the wave the first two weeks by jumping eight spots on the heels of a home win against Seattle and then dropping five spots last week after losing to the Washington Redskins, it’s clear that most of the voting panel is getting a handle on just what these Rams are.
Frankly, they are who we thought they were through the first three weeks. Which is to say a team with a talented (if not yet consistent) defense and an offense that isn’t producing enough points to stack victories. Rams coach Jeff Fisher said Monday that his team is just a few plays away from being 3-0. Of course, the Rams are also a play or two from being 0-3. Such is life in the NFL.
Of course, the Rams could very well be headed for another tumble in these rankings over the next two weeks. This week, they play at No. 2 Arizona and they follow with a trip to play No. 3 Green Bay.
For now, sitting at No. 19 is probably a pretty good spot for the Rams. They’ve been mostly middle of the pack in all three previous seasons under Fisher, and unless the offense can find a rhythm sooner than later, they look to be headed that way again.
September 29, 2015 at 9:14 pm in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31438
znModeratorFailure to keep pace cost Rams against Steelers
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — Looking back at three things to watch from the St. Louis Rams’ 12-6 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday.
1. Wrangling Roethlisberger: First and foremost, the Rams knew that to have a chance, they wouldn’t be able to allow Ben Roethlisberger to get in a groove and dictate the tempo of the game.
A shoddy start looked like it would translate into a long day for the Rams defense but after it settled in and made some adjustments to Pittsburgh’s quick-hit passing game, Roethlisberger didn’t have much success in the second and third quarter. The Rams got to him for three sacks before he suffered the left knee injury that cost him the final 20 or so minutes of the game.
Roethlisberger finished with 192 yards on 20-of-24 passing with no touchdowns and an interception but it’s worth noting that he was 11-of-12 for 127 yards in the first quarter. The Rams would like to get off to a better start but they did a good enough job against Roethlisberger to be in position to win the game.
2. Keeping pace: The Rams fared pretty well in two of the three areas to watch but this is the one that they weren’t able to earn a mostly positive mark in. After struggling to sustain drives and move the ball consistently, the Rams hoped to fare better against Pittsburgh’s defense. They couldn’t.
The run game was poor again, posting 71 yards on 18 carries. Receiver Chris Givens was the team’s leading rusher, taking an end-around 24 yards late in the game. But Rams running backs combined for just 37 yards on 16 carries, 12 of those coming on one carry by Benjamin Cunningham. All told, the Rams finished with just 258 yards of offense. They had 12 first downs and were 2-of-10 on third down and 0-for-2on fourth down. Time of possession was closer this week as the Rams had the ball for 27:41 but it wasn’t enough to get the Rams into the winner’s circle.
3. Going for two: In an interesting “what if” scenario, the Steelers’ aggressive approach to going for the two-point conversion very nearly came back to bite them against the Rams. The Steelers set the tone in the first two weeks by going 3-for-3 on two-point tries. Sure enough, when they scored their lone touchdown in the first half, coach Mike Tomlin went for two.
The Rams defense was ready for it, though, and managed to stop the Steelers short. That made it 9-0. After the Rams trimmed it the deficit to 9-3, they had a chance to take the lead with a touchdown and an extra point for most of the rest of the game. As it turned out, it didn’t matter but it could have turned some scrutiny on Tomlin if the Rams stole a 10-9 victory.
September 28, 2015 at 10:41 pm in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31397
znModeratorBernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/28/daily-bits-mizzou-offense-needs-playmakers/
Some notes on the Rams’ 12-6 loss to the Steelers from our friends at ProFootballFocus.com: Rams’ rookie left guard Jamon Brown played very well, with his best NFL game so far, earning the highest overall grade among NFL guards in Week Three. Brown did now allow a QB pressure … the Rams’ run-blocking was bad in Sunday’s game, but the O-line deserves credit for providing quality pass protection. Rams QB Nick Foles was pressured on only 8 of his 31 drop backs. Although he was sacked twice Foles had an 80% accuracy percentage under pressure (dropped passes and intentional throwaways are excluded in the accuracy rating, which makes it, well, more accurate.) … The Rams O-line had the third highest Pass Blocking Efficiency rating in the NFL this week (pending tonight’s Kansas City vs. Green Bay game.) … Rams’ tight ends accounted for all three of the team’s dropped passes Sunday. Lance Kendricks had two drops on five targets, and Jared Cook had one drop on three targets … Foles completed seven of 10 passes thrown to wide receiver Kenny Britt and had a 102.9 passer rating when targeting Britt … PFF gave Rams’ defensive tackle Aaron Donald a strong grade for his run defense against the Steelers. But even though Donald had a sack in the game, it was his only QB pressure in 28 pass rushes. … Rams OLB Alec Ogletree was targeted by the Steelers on five passing attempts; they completed all five on him. … defensive end Robert Quinn was given a top-five NFL grade for his pass rush against the Steelers; he had a sack, a hurry and batted down a pass.
September 28, 2015 at 10:20 pm in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31395
znModeratorTen Takeaways from the Rams’ 12-6 Loss to the Steelers
Randy Karraker
http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/28/ten-takeaways-from-the-rams-12-6-loss-to-the-steelers/
Both Anthony Stalter and I thought that, with the quality of the Steeler offense and the lack of quality in their secondary, that the Rams would have a chance to score some points and play a shootout with Pittsburgh.
Lo and behold, the Ram defense stepped up, but their offense impotent for the second straight week, and they fell 12-6 Sunday at the Dome.
Lots to cover. Here are ten takeaways:
1) The game was delayed a half hour because the Rams pregame pyrotechnic display during introductions caused a small fire on the field. I’m guessing the league didn’t think it was funny, but for a franchise that has had such difficulty succeeding, it just seemed to fit. As a fellow fan in the stands said to me, “only the Rams.” I got a chuckle out of it.
2) Guess which team has the fewest offensive touchdowns after three weeks of the 2015 NFL season? Yep, it’s your St. Louis Rams. After crossing the goal line three times in their opener against Seattle, the Rams have scored just one TD…the Nick Foles-to-Kenny Britt 40-yarder in Washington…in their last two games. If you throw in Tavon Austin’s punt return in the opener, the Rams five touchdowns scored in three games leads only Chicago. In Fisher’s seasons, the Rams have finished 24th, 22nd, and 19th in touchdowns scored.
The Fisher regime has used three top-three picks on receivers, spent $35 million and $18 million, respectively, on tight ends Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks, and spent millions of dollars and numerous draft picks on offensive linemen. Yet they can’t catch up with the rest of the NFL’s two-decade scoring explosion. It makes for really unattractive football.
3) As a fan of the old Football Cardinals, I prefer a 27-20 loss to a 12-6 loss. Just my opinion. I find it more entertaining. If given the choice, I’d rather have a good offense and a bad defense rather than the alternative, which is what the Rams have.
4) Even though they still might not have been able to get the ball into the end zone, the Rams would have had a much better chance at the end of the game had Lance Kendricks made the grab on the third quarter pass from Nick Foles that he dropped at the 15 yard line with just over 12 minutes left. Foles was sacked on the next play, and rather than getting three points on the first possession of the second half, the Rams got nothing.
5) The Rams defense knocked out Steeler quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, allowed just one touchdown, and held a team averaging more than 450 yards a game to 259. It was a nice comeback after their bad day in Washington a week earlier.
todd gurley-2Gurley had six carries for nine yards in his debut with the Rams.
6) Fisher may defend the running game, but it has been abysmal so far. On Sunday the Rams ran eighteen times for 79 yards, a 3.9 average; but running backs ran sixteen times for 37, a 2.3 average. Through three games, the team has 214 yards and average 3.8 per carry, but running backs are 42-111, a 2.6 yard per carry average. This “run first” offense is 28th in rushing offense with receivers and the quarterback picking up 103 of their 214 yards. Once again, in their fourth year, should the early season absence of Todd Gurley hurt THAT much?
7) Speaking of Gurley, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for his six carry, nine yard performance.
He’s not exactly running behind the Hogs here. Heck, when the Cardinals’ Ottis Anderson ran for 193 yards against Dallas in HIS debut in 1979, he was behind a line of Hall-of-Famer Dan Dierdorf, Terry Stieve, Tom Banks, Bob Young and Keith Wortman. That group, right to left, had nine, three, eight, thirteen and seven years in the NFL.
Gurley’s Rams group, right to left, had a rookie, five years, three years (six starts), rookie and 2ndyear player. I’m not going to blame Gurley for his day.
8) Think about rooting for a team that has been to the playoffs in 27 of the last 42 years, and in that time has been to a Super Bowl about every five years, winning one every seven seasons. That’s the Steelers. Perhaps that explains why all that black and gold was in the stands on Sunday. If there’s an NFL comparison to the Cardinals, it’s the Steelers. Congratulations to them for building such a great fan base. Winning does that.
9) With five sacks, the Rams have thirteen on the season, on pace for 69. The NFL record is 72, held by the 1984 Chicago Bears, of which Fisher was a member.
10) The way things are going, it’s hard to imagine the Rams going in to Arizona and Green Bay the next two weeks and coming out with a win. But then after their bye they get six-of-nine at home. Eight of those will be games the Rams could conceivably have a chance in, once they get their offensive line working together and Gurley entrenched.
If they can stay healthy, they could get on a hot streak. Would I predict it? No way, but Cleveland, Minnesota, Chicago, Baltimore, Arizona at the Edward Jones Dome, Detroit and Tampa Bay are far from world beaters. You never know.
September 28, 2015 at 10:07 pm in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31393
znModeratorMonday Wrap-Up: Improving on 3rd Down
Myles Simmons
The Rams struggled offensively on Sunday against the Steelers, and a significant indicator is the club’s third-down efficiency.
St. Louis converted only 2-of-10 third-down opportunities. It was the second week in a row the Rams only made two third downs, as they were 2-of-12 against Washington in Week 2.
“Our issue is third-down offense,” Fisher said. “Converting third downs and then making plays in the plus territory — touchdowns rather than field goals.”
Given the Rams made myriad changes to the offense during the offseason, it was realistic to expect some growing pains for the unit. But that doesn’t mean Fisher thought scoring would decrease to this level.
“Didn’t anticipate the issue with the lack of points in the last two weeks,” Fisher said. “But the potential was certainly there. The three drops, the penalties — they take points off the board.
“The points will increase once our drives increase,” Fisher continued. “We just haven’t had the opportunity with the drives. And really, it all circles around the third-down efficiency. We’re just not converting third downs.”
One of the factors contributing to the third-down struggles is the new offense and new personnel. The situation will probably improve as quarterback Nick Foles gets more experience with the group.
“It’s Nick in the system, pre-snap diagnosing man or zone and knowing where to go with the ball,” Fisher cited as one example of where there’s room for improvement. “We had some opportunities there. He’s seen it, we’ve discussed it, and we’ll improve upon it.”
But the Rams have to get better on their early downs as well. Many times, third-down conversions are a product of the offense setting things up well from the first two plays in the set.
“We had some tackles-for-loss that created 2nd-and-12s and then the 3rd-and-7s and then we weren’t getting off,” Fisher said. “It contributes to all that. More importantly than that, we have to avoid the third downs if at all possible. Make bigger plays and get more production on early downs.”
As for the quarterback, Fisher complimented Foles, saying he made some nice throws during the game. Unfortunately, there were more opportunities that turned into incompletions.
“The three drops were significant,” Fisher said. “We had several last week, and had none in Week 1. We’ve got to catch the ball when given the opportunity.”
Yesterday after the game, Foles spoke extensively on remaining optimistic as the season is still young. The comments largely echoed the topics Fisher touched on during Monday’s presser.
“We’re going to put ourselves in a situation where we’re in the red zone more, we convert on third downs more and we’ll be alright,” Foles said. “I say it’s early in the season just because it’s not like the season stops today. We’ll play next week and we’re going to work hard this week to be better because that’s the guys we have in the locker room.”
Fisher said Monday he feels Foles has the right attitude with his positivity.
“I think he’s got a real legitimate perspective of where we are as a football team right now,” Fisher said of Foles. “If you look at it the way we’re looking at it, then there’s optimism and confidence this team is going to get better.”
And it’s not going to get easier for St. Louis as the team will play Arizona next week and Green Bay on Oct 11 before the bye week.
“We’re moving on,” Fisher said. “Our attention now goes to one of the top-two teams in the NFC right now — it looks like we’ve got them both back-to-back. So we’ve got a lot of work ahead of us. So we’re moving forward.”
NEWS AND NOTES
There was more to come out of Fisher’s press conference on Monday. Here are some of the highlights from what the head coach said.
— Fisher complimented the Rams’ defensive line play, especially that of Ethan Westbrooks. The second-year pro out of West Texas A&M has been rotating in at end for the injured Eugene Sims.
“We got a lot of good work out of Ethan,” Fisher said. “He played end in relief of Rob [Quinn] and got a lot of production out of him. I thought the defensive line, for the most part, applied really good pressure against an offensive line that’s very well coached, that was prepared. And we still got pressure there.”
— While wide receiver Brian Quick was inactive against the Steelers, Fisher said that situation has the potential to change against Arizona.
“There’s a chance that he’ll be up this week,” Fisher said. “We’ll see how the week goes.”
“We can’t keep them all up,” Fisher added of the wide receivers. “Bradley [Marquez] is playing really well on [special] teams. And when Chris [Givens] got his opportunities, he made his plays. So we’ll just see how things shake out during the week.”
— Todd Gurley did not have many yards in his debut, but Fisher said the team was close on a few of those runs. The running back came back very well after his first game, according to the head coach.
“Good possibility he plays this week,” Fisher said with a smile.
September 28, 2015 at 9:56 pm in reply to: what furr'nerz think: Steelers game reactions from around the net #31392
znModeratorfrom off the net
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alyoshamucci
So, I’m getting a few senses about the team that make these past few weeks make a tiny bit of sense … but that’s it. Someone mentioned that we’re a run-first team that can’t run. If I was to point to any one liner to encapsulate the issues, that would be it.
We had this game, they even lost their QB. Our defense put on a true show against a powerhouse football team. I couldn’t be prouder of them.
The Good
1) Leveon Bell scored less than 23 fantasy points for me. I can usually count on him for 30-40. Seems crazy, but he’s probably the best all purpose back I’ve ever seen. So keeping him, with fresh legs to boot, under that is a big deal.
2) Donald and Quinn and Tree +1s on the sack category. And ALL THREE were on Ben before the end of his drop. Those weren’t hustle sacks.
3) Joyner was really moving fast. It is an underrated thing, closing speed. He’s going to stop a lot of first downs like that and get some PBUs.
4) Britt with 100 yards (he can;t drop that ball at the end, ugh)
5) Nick Foles threw more accurately, about in between the two previous weeks, so probably representative of his ability.
6) Gurley sighting!!!!
7) Benny still running hard.
8) O line pass pro was pretty solid.
9) GZ steady.
10 TJ with some really powerful hits, lord.
The Bad
11) Cook, Kendricks … seriously. Those were points. I’ll be highlighting TEs every week now, because there are some real quality players in the NCAA.
12) No Quick. Gonna be tracking WRs too … and there are MANY.
13) Why are we not using Benny every down?
14) NO RUN BLOCKING. How does Boudreau have any voice left?
15) JJ collapsing on that 3rd and 13 by Brown and losing contain. No excuses dude. You can’t do that.
16) JL beat the block on the TD at the goalline, but took FOREVER to fill … and we know it was an inch.
17) Where’s Stedman?
The Ugly.
18) WHY ARE WE RUNNING AGAINST A TEAM THAT HAS NO TALENTED BACK END DEFENDERS?
This was winnable, I’ll leave it at that.
September 28, 2015 at 9:51 pm in reply to: Rams sign Toon to PS, move McGee to reg roster, and cut Pead. #31391
znModeratorI didn’t think players with more than a couple of years experience could be signed to a practice squad.
They changed the rules.
znModeratorc) when will Kendricks learn to consistently catch a friggin ball?
One small disagreement. Kendricks has led them in catch percentage for a couple of years. (That’s if memory serves. I do know that in 2014 he had the highest catch percentage among Rams TEs and WRs with more than 20 targets. That’s not memory, that;s just fact. But beyond that, I think…based just on memory…that’s true of 2013, too.) He learned to catch the ball a while back. His catch against Seattle sealed a win.
It was one bad play by a player who has been catching the ball well for a few years now.
znModeratorWe saw last week how much this offense is going to struggle.
We saw this week how good the defense can be.
So this week shows a lot more promise than last week.
Heck most people had written off the Pitt. game in advance as a blow-out.
Cigz and Boras are new at this, the OL is far more inexperienced than most anyone can name and I mean in NFL history, and I said before the season that Foles would need at least decent OL play and a running game to play well. That means a struggling offense.
(Actually what I said was that Foles would need a relatively healthy OL and a running threat. But the point is that a line with multiple simultaneous injuries cannot play effectively, and since a young OL with 2 rookies and a green LOT can’t play effectively … at first … either, it’s 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.)
So the defensive play was encouraging. The offense in the redzone when they could have taken the game? Annoying. (Especially since redzone offense was previously a strength with this team, except when Hill was qb.)
When I see a mix of encouraging and disappointing things, I just ask which one looks structural and longterm. Are the disappointing things incurable? My answer is no. Are the encouraging things ephemeral or real? I say real.
Unless some key injuries de-rail them I still see a winning season.
September 28, 2015 at 2:54 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31360
znModeratorJeff Fisher’s Rams are Heading the Wrong Way
Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/09/28/jeff-fishers-rams-are-heading-the-wrong-way/
By now you’re familiar with the latest misadventures of the Futile Franchise.
The Rams contained the offensive mayhem created fast-paced Pittsburgh Steelers to 12 points, a good day’s work by any reasonable measure … and lost the game 12-6.
The Rams put Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger out of the competition and in search of crutches with a painful and unfortunate third-quarter knee injury … and still could not find a way to step over his fallen body to find a way to win the day.
The Rams trapped Big Ben and his backup Michael Vick for five sacks. They held the Steelers to 72 yards in the second half. Pittsburgh’s imposing ground game netted only 62 yards rushing, with franchise back Le’Veon Bell surrounded by men in blue, averaging only 3.3 yards per carry … and the Rams could not score enough to make it matter.
On the other side of the scrum, the Rams offense had only 12 first downs. They converted only two of 12 third-down plays. The roll-out debut of running back Todd Gurley did not lead them to the end zone. Gurley, the No. 1 draft choice, joined Tre Mason and Benny Cunningham in the impossible task of making it through the Steelers’ defensive blockade. The Rams’ three running backs were forced to scrounge for 37 yards on 16 carries.
In the first three games Rams’ backs have 42 rushing attempts for 111 yards, an scant average of 2.6 yards per run.
Where have you gone, June Henley?
You want to prevent Rams owner Stan Kroenke from running to Los Angeles? Easy: just put him behind this massive but passive Rams’ offensive line stocked with carefully scouted, hand-picked draft choices. And The Kronk won’t be able to go anywhere.
In a close game, with Big Ben felled and the triumph there for the snatching, Rams quarterback Nick Foles completed four of nine passes for 34 yards and one first down in the fourth quarter. The fourth-quarter misfires included a terrible decision to release a throw that became a fluttering, sailing, paper-airplane interception. And you think Cardinals closer Trevor Rosenthal made a bad pitch down the street at Busch Stadium? Foles’ fourth-quarter passer rating: 15.3.
Rams receivers dropped so many passes, they might as well have used oven mitts as part of their gear.
There was a pregame fire on a patch of the plastic field before the game … and if you think I’m going to write a lame joke about how the Rams might want to think about saving the fireworks for their offense — well, you’ve come to the wrong comedy club. I don’t have anything clever to say.
But I do have questions that are bugging me, so let’s get to the stinking point:
Jeff Fisher, shouldn’t you be winning games by now?
Coach Fisher, shouldn’t you have an offense that’s more evolved and in synch with 2015?
The primitive version of the NFL legalized the forward pass in 1906, so haven’t you had plenty of time to figure this out?
Coach, you came to St. Louis with a reputation for having tough teams, and an offense that would maul the opposition’s defensive fronts to win the bloody skirmishes in the pit to pile up the rushing yards.
So why can’t your team run the football?
Isn’t that your speciality?
This is Fisher’s fourth season as coach. Along with GM Les Snead, Fisher has had the benefit of four drafts, considerable free-agent dollars, and trades to build a decent offense.
Fisher-Snead have invested 21 draft choices in their offense. The count, by position: nine offensive linemen (including four tackles), five running backs, five wide receivers, and two quarterbacks.
By now the Rams should have an offense that, at minimum, is ruggedly effective. An offense that can road grade a defense. An offense capable of cultivating an efficient if unimaginative passing game.
The Rams made the gigantic trade with Washington in 2012, bartering the draft rights to quarterback Robert Griffin III for a collection of premium draft choices. But the whopper of a deal did not produce a single player that’s bringing the Fisher offense out of the Stone Age.
And Fisher and Snead made a trade for Foles, their coveted quarterback. Time will tell on that one, but Foles’ last two performances didn’t come close to matching his opening-day slinging against Seattle.
When offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer left the Rams and the NFL after the 2014 season to run the offense for Mark Richt at the University of Georgia, Fisher had a chance to go outside the organization and recruit a creative mind to pull this offense out of the ditch. Instead, Fisher promoted within. Granted, it’s early but Frank Cignetti makes Schotty look like Mike Martz by comparison.
But the shot at Cignetti misses the point.
As I’ve written and said many times: this is the Jeff Fisher offense, and will remain the Jeff Fisher offense as long as Jeff Fisher is the Rams’ head coach. Blaming the offensive coordinator for the Rams’ miserable offense would be like faulting the ship’s orchestra for the sinking of the Titanic.
This is Fisher’s 20th season as an NFL head coach.
For now, we’ll just review the first 19 seasons — even though the 20th season is looking rather familiar.
In the annual league rankings for points scored from scrimmage by an offense, Fisher’s first 19 teams finished in the top 10 only three times and haven’t been better than 12th over the past 10 seasons.
Using the same measure — points by the offense, and not defense or special teams — Fisher’s offense has scored more than the league average only nine times in 19 seasons … and only three times over the past nine seasons.
I went back and looked at the average offensive-points totals of teams that made the playoffs during Fisher’s first 19 seasons.
Fisher’s offenses have matched or exceeded the playoff-caliber average for a particular season only three times out of 19. And it hasn’t happened for 10 consecutive seasons, through 2014. (And only once over the past 14 seasons.)
So for the love of Don Coryell, how in the world does this coach — or the team’s detached owner — expect to put together a playoff-level team with an offense that’s so chronically behind the modern standard for points scored?
We should view all of these Rams’ running plays that get stuffed as something of a metaphor; the failure represents Fisher’s insistence on repeatedly slamming into a big and impenetrable wall and expecting it to crumble when there’s little or no chance of breaking through.
This is an example of hard-headedness in the worst way: sticking with a preferred style that does not work — but stubbornly refusing to change.
In Fisher’s first three seasons the Rams ranked (in order), 28th, 22nd, and 23rd in points from scrimmage on offense.
Three games into the 2015 schedule, the Rams are sinking even lower.
They’ve scored only 43 points on offense. Ugh. And that’s the fewest in the league.
Four teams have more than doubled the Rams’ 43-point output. Eight offenses have put up 70+ points so far. And 14 teams have 60+ points on offense, with Green Bay almost certainly raising that count to 15 pending, and the Chiefs needing 16 points tonight to make it 16 teams with 60 or more.
After defeating Seattle in the first game, the Rams scored one touchdown an 16 total points in losses to Washington and Pittsburgh. In the two losses they converted only 4 of 22 third-down plays … and we can make that 4 of 25 if we include three failures on fourth down. The Rams have only 23 first downs in their last two games — the lowest two-game total during Fishers’s four seasons here.
The Rams are going the wrong way.
There’s no excuse for this.
Not in the fourth year of a program.
Not after using 21 draft picks to stock the offense — with 10 prospects chosen in the first three rounds, and 11 going among the first 100 players selected overall in their draft class.
Not after making WR Tavon Austin the 8th overall pick in 2013, and left offensive tackle Greg Robinson the No. 2 overall selection in 2014. (Gurley, the No. 10 overall choice in 2015, obviously gets a pass in this accounting. He just appeared in his first game.)
Not after using the 33rd overall pick in 2012 on WR Brian Quick, who hasn’t been put on the game-day roster in the first three weeks of the ’15 season. Not after using the No. 50 overall pick in ’12 on spare-part running back Isaiah Pead.
Not after lavishing free-agent dollars on offensive pieces such as tight end Jared Cook, center Scott Wells, wide receiver Kenny Britt, and offensive tackle Jake Long. (Among others.)
Not after trading for Foles.
The Rams are going the wrong way.
In Fisher’s first two seasons in St. Louis: 14 wins, 17 losses, a tie for a .453 winning percentage.
In Fisher’s last two seasons (19 games): 7 wins, 12 losses and a .368 winning percentage.
The Rams, 1-2, are staring at the distinct possibility of a 1-4 record. Their next two games will send them to Arizona, and then to Green Bay.
Going back to last season, the Rams are 1-5 in their last six games, and that could be 1-7 two weeks from now.
I ask this sincerely: is there any legitimate reason to believe Coach Fisher is capable of significant change, and can reverse so many ominous trends that have him wallowing with a .428 winning percentage in his last seven seasons as an NFL head coach?
I liked his hiring before the 2012 season. I liked the team’s immediate improvement under Fisher with that 7-8-1 record in his first season here. But even though progress has been made in refurbishing the roster, the coaching is another story. I don’t believe Fisher can adapt. I hoped that he could, but I no longer see a reason to have the same optimism I felt when he too over.
Any talk of firing Fisher is irrelevant. Kroenke won’t do that. Not when he still has Fisher under contract (at $7 million) in 2016. And not when there’s still a chance of the Rams moving to Los Angeles.
A substantial part of Fisher’s appeal to Kroenke is obvious: Fisher has experience in coaching a relocating team, having been in charge when the late Bud Adams moved his Houston Oilers to Tennessee to become the Titans in 1997.
As crazy as it sounds, Jeff Fisher has as much job security as New England head coach Bill Belichick.
September 28, 2015 at 1:53 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31353
znModeratorRams Lose to Steelers, 12-6
Myles Simmons
The Rams could not get anything going offensively on Sunday, and dropped a low-scoring, 12-6 contest to the Steelers.
“Six points isn’t going to win you a whole lot of games,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “We’re averaging eight points a game the last two weeks, and that’s not going to get it done for you. That’s my biggest area of concern.”
St. Louis had just 12 first downs and had only 258 offensive yards in the contest. Like last week, the offense made two of their 3rd-down chances, this time going 2-of-10. There were also a couple key false start penalties in the red zone, contributing to a seven penalties for 97 yards overall.
The Rams’ six points came on two field goals from Greg Zuerlein — a 49-yard strike in the second quarter, and a 27-yard kick in the fourth.
“With all due respect to Greg Zuerlein, I don’t want to see him on the field as much,” Fisher said. “We need to put the ball in the end zone. We’ve got to keep working on that because that doesn’t win you a lot of games that way.”
“Our defense did a tremendous job today,” quarterback Nick Foles said. “They gave us an opportunity — we’ve got to be able to score more. We’ve got to score more points than them in those situations.”
With many completions and run plays, the game had a quick pace throughout. In the first quarter, Pittsburgh’s first two possessions netted only nine points, but were 13 and 12 plays, respectively.
The visitors got returning running back Le’Veon Bell involved early, with quarterback Ben Roethlisberger completing a short pass to him for 10 yards on the game’s first play. The Rams’ defense would eventually tighten up in the red zone, with defensive tackle Michael Brockers stuffing Bell for a 1-yard loss on 3rd-and-goal from the 2-yard line. The Steelers settled for a field goal, giving them a 3-0 lead.
“We fortunately held them to three, which was a big deal for us,” Fisher said.
The Rams did convert a third down on their first drive, but the possession petered out after only six plays. On 3rd-and-2 from the home team 48, tight end Lance Kendricks dropped a low pass from Foles that would have netted a first down.
Though Johnny Hekker got off a good punt, the Steelers came back with a 12-play, 92-yard drive to get back on the scoreboard. Pittsburgh effectively used its no-huddle offense to get down the field, and Bell took a 1-yard handoff into the end zone for a touchdown. The Steelers went for two, but did not get it with cornerback Trumaine Johnson coming away with the pass breakup toward the front of the end zone.
“Our ability to defend the two-point conversion gave us a shot,” Fisher said. “But, nonetheless, you’ve got to score points.”
Running back Todd Gurley made his debut on the next drive, taking a handoff and making a reception. But the rookie was largely ineffective for the whole game, gaining only nine yards on six carries and a 5-yard catch. The Rams, needing to sustain a drive, tried a fake punt from the Steelers’ 48. But the pass from Hekker to an open Stedman Bailey on the left sideline was underthrown and bounced into the wide receiver’s arms.
But the home team’s defense came through, with Janoris Jenkins coming up with a big interception. On 2nd-and-19 from Pittsburgh’s own 39, Roethlisberger attempted a deep pass to wideout Markus Wheaton. Jenkins didn’t bite on Wheaton’s double move, stayed over the top on coverage, and intercepted the ball near right sideline.
It was a significant play that set the Rams up to get on the board with a 49-yard field goal from Greg Zuerlein. The score cut the Steelers’ lead to 9-3, which held through halftime.
The third quarter looked like it could start well, but a key drop stalled the Rams’ first drive. After picking up a couple first downs, Foles dropped back for a play-action pass. Kendricks was open on the left side and the quarterback threw a ball right in the bread basket. But the tight end couldn’t handle it and the ball ended up incomplete.
“I saw the ball go up and I just lost it in the light. I couldn’t see it coming down at all,” Kendricks said. “Once it hit me, then I saw it, obviously. That’s why it kind of hit me in the facemask because I couldn’t see it. But no excuses — I’ve still got to find a way to catch it.”
“It’s hard. That’s hard,” Fisher said. “We had three drops today, and you’re in a field-position game like that where there’s potential swings, or potential additional first downs, those are hard to overcome. We didn’t drop them on purpose, but we needed to make that play.”
Foles was sacked on the next snap, which effectively ended the Rams’ scoring threat.
But that’s when defensive tackle Aaron Donald made a string of strong defensive plays. The Pittsburgh native came up with two TFLs and a big sack of Roethlisberger on the ensuing drive. But after that, the Steelers’ quarterback went out with a knee injury from an unintentional low hit by Mark Barron on a sack. Roethlisberger did not return, as veteran QB Michael Vick replaced him for the duration of the game.
“You never want to see a competitor and a guy like that go down,” Foles said of Roethlisberger. “I’ll be saying my prayers for him.”
The Rams again cut the lead in the fourth quarter with a long drive that resulted in a field goal. On 3rd-and-4 from the St. Louis 35, Kenny Britt induced a pass interference call from corner Antwon Blake that put the home team on Pittsburgh’s 24. On the next play, wideout Chris Givens took an end around 24 yards to the right side, giving the Rams 1st-and-goal at the 7. But a pair of false start penalties moved St. Louis back, and the club had to settle for three points, cutting Pittsburgh’s lead to 9-6.
“Penalties were at the wrong time,” Fisher said.
Though Bell broke off a 23-yard run to start Pittsburgh’s ensuing possession, the defense came through with a big stop. And with 3:09 left in the contest, Tavon Austin fair caught a punt at St. Louis’ 17-yard line.
But with a poor throw from Foles, the drive lasted only one play. Though Kendricks beat his defender off the line and had some space on him down the seam, there was a safety over the top. Will Allen intercepted Foles’ pass and returned it to the St. Louis 31, setting up a field goal to extend Pittsburgh’s lead to 12-6.
“It was a forced throw,” Foles said. “That’s on me. That’s something that I never want to happen. But the game goes on and we’ve got to keep playing.”
With 1:51 left and no timeouts, the Rams commenced their final drive from their own 21, with Foles promptly hitting Britt for a 13-yard reception. But on the next set of downs, a short pass and a pair of incompletions left St. Louis with a 4th-and-5. Though it initially appeared Britt made a catch to extend the drive, the call was reversed on a review. The referees said the ball hit the ground, and thus the pass was incomplete.
The Steelers took a pair of knees to run out the clock.
With the offense’s struggles, Foles said his mentality is to stay positive. The signal-caller said the unit is experiencing growing pains, but it is learning and growing together.
“We’ve got a bunch of young guys who go to work every day and they want to get better. And that’s what I see,” Foles said. “And that’s why I’m optimistic, because of the guys we have. My goal is to just keep grinding forward and by the end of the year, we’ll be where we want to be.”
“We’re 1-2. The world’s not ending,” Foles added. “We will figure it out.”
The Rams will be back in action next week when they face the Cardinals in Arizona.
September 28, 2015 at 1:52 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31352
znModeratorLance Kendricks’ big drop key in Rams’ loss
Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/21829/lance-kendricks-big-drop-key-in-rams-loss
ST. LOUIS — The St. Louis Rams needed just one big play from their offense to knock off the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday afternoon. That play was there, floating through the air and into the hands of wide-open tight end Lance Kendricks, who was running down the left sideline with little more than 12 minutes to go in the third quarter.
It was a play eerily reminiscent of the game-tying touchdown Kendricks caught in that same area in Week 1 against Seattle. It could have turned the game and given the Rams a lead. But Kendricks failed to catch it. The ball bounced off his chest and fell harmlessly to the ground. The Rams went on to lose 12-6 to the Steelers at the Edward Jones Dome.
The Rams’ offense isn’t good enough to lean exclusively on big plays, nor is it consistent enough to run the ball with the frequency they’ve often discussed. So when big-play opportunities arise, they simply aren’t in position to miss on those chances. The margin for error is too small, as Kendricks’ drop proved once again.
What it means: At 1-2, the Rams find themselves in a precarious position just three weeks into the season. It was no secret that the defense would have to carry the freight early, but without much help from the offense, it has been too big of a task for them to handle so far. The Rams now hit the road for the next two weeks to play NFC powers Arizona and Green Bay in back-to-back weeks. While Jeff Fisher’s Rams can spring a surprise on anyone, a 1-4 start seems well within the realm of possibility.
What were they thinking? All week, the Rams talked about the need to be better on third down and sustain drives. Then they went out and failed to convert time and again. They finished 2-of-10 on third-down situations and, most maddeningly, often threw passes short of the sticks in hopes that they could break tackles and move the chains. More often than not, they didn’t.
One reason to get excited: The Rams took a big step forward against the run after Washington trampled them to the tune of 182 rushing yards last week. Pittsburgh mustered just 2.8 yards per carry on 22 runs. Stopping the run allows the Rams’ ferocious pass rush to do what it does best, and it did with five sacks.
Fantasy watch: With 13 minutes left in the second quarter, rookie running back Todd Gurley played his first NFL snap. He went for a 2-yard gain. Rushing yards are hard to come by on this team, and Gurley only managed 9 yards on six carries for the day, adding a catch for 5 more yards. Not that Tre Mason or Benny Cunningham had much more success. The Rams finished with just 71 yards on 18 carries. Until the Rams’ run blocking improves, it probably doesn’t matter who is playing running back.
September 28, 2015 at 1:50 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31351
znModeratorReceiver Kenny Britt re-emerges for Rams offense
Nick Wagoner
ST. LOUIS — A look at three St. Louis Rams players who were “up” and those who were “down” in Sunday’s 12-6 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers:
UP
WR Kenny Britt — Aside from a 40-yard touchdown last week, Britt had been mostly quiet in the first two weeks, but he was the team’s lone reliable offensive contributor on Sunday. He finished with seven catches for 102 yards, re-establishing himself as the team’s primary receiving weapon.
DT Aaron Donald — It’s no surprise to see Donald in this spot, but he again wreaked havoc all over the field, living in Pittsburgh’s backfield and finishing with four tackles, a sack, three tackles for loss and a quarterback hit. Most importantly, he helped the Rams’ run defense improve drastically from a week ago, limiting Pittsburgh to 2.8 yards per carry.
LB Alec Ogletree — Ogletree followed his big effort of a week ago with another strong outing, including a pair of sacks, a tackle for loss and nine tackles overall. He continues to emerge as one of the Rams’ best young players.
DOWN
TE Lance Kendricks — Kendricks had two costly drops, one that would have gone for a first down and another that might have gone for a touchdown in the third quarter. The Rams can’t afford such mistakes with an offense that struggles to generate points.
TE Jared Cook — It wasn’t a good day at the office for Rams tight ends in general, and Cook joined the party. Despite a seemingly favorable matchup, he had just one catch for 7 yards and had a two-play sequence late when the Rams were driving for a potential game-winning touchdown that included a false-start penalty and a poor route on a ball thrown his way in the end zone.
The offensive line — The Rams again failed to get any push in the run game, finishing with 71 yards on 18 carries. Pass protection was a little better as Nick Foles was sacked just twice. But overall, the pocket was often shaky ground.
September 28, 2015 at 1:42 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31350
znModeratorRams notes: Offensive fireworks limited to pregame introductions
Jim Thomas
Unfortunately for the Rams, the day’s only offensive fireworks came during pregame introductions.
As is usually the case, the lights were dimmed in the Edward Jones Dome as the Rams’ offensive starters were announced and came running out of the tunnel onto the field one by one as their names were called by public address announcer Andy Banker.
As part of this display, fireworks are shot off a few feet in the air in the corner of the end zone where the players come out. Only this time, sparks from the display caused part of the artificial surface to catch fire briefly.
The Rams said in a statement that a pyrotechnic cart malfunction resulted in the fire. It was quickly extinguished. Nonetheless, the start of the game was delayed 28 minutes beyond the scheduled noon kickoff.
“The most important thing that we did was we had our doctor, our team physician, come over and identify the ingredients on the fire extinguisher, and there were toxins in there,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “It was toxic and it was powder, and so we had to get that up because it could create irritations for the eye.”
That cleaning process took a while, so both teams went back to their respective locker rooms. They came out later, stretched and warmed up for a few minutes, and then the game finally got underway.
“I thought it was handled properly,” said Fisher, who met with Pittsburgh counterpart Mike Tomlin right away to discuss the situation. “That’s not in the rulebook for the officials, but we talked about it. I thought the league handled everything very well from an officiating standpoint.”
Quarterback Nick Foles said he’d never experienced a delayed start like that one, and he probably wasn’t alone in that assessment.
“But our strength coaches and Coach Fisher did a great job of getting us in the locker room, getting us ready,” Foles said. “Guys do their thing before we go out and just sort of activate everything again.”
CROWD NOISE
There were 52,433 tickets distributed for Sunday’s Rams-Steelers contest. Of the maybe 50,000 fans actually in the stands, about 20,000 were loud, energetic Steelers fans waving those familiar Terrible Towels.
Things got so loud that the Rams’ offensive unit had to go to a silent count when it got in the red zone. While commonplace on the road, going to a silent count at home is very rare.
But Steelers fans do travel well, and their presence was magnified as Rams fans continue to stay away from the Dome, partly in protest of owner Stan Kroenke’s plans to move the team to Los Angeles.
“When we were in a red zone situation, it was getting pretty loud,” Foles said. “They travel well. It’s a historic franchise. Everybody knows about their fans. You could probably go all around the world and there’s Steelers fans.
“But our fans were loud, too, throughout the day so it was evenly matched. I’m thankful for our fans coming out as well.”
All in all, it was more like a bowl game atmosphere with noise coming from both sets of fans depending on what was happening on the field.
“It’s definitely a weird dynamic,” Foles said. “It’s something you deal with through the course of the game and it’s just part of it.”
TACKLING RECORD
Linebacker James Laurinaitis became the Rams’ career tackling leader Sunday. Unofficial press box stats had him with eight tackles. He needed just two to surpass Hall of Famer Merlin Olsen’s previous Rams record of 915, so Laurinaitis will have several more than 915 following the coaches’ review of game film Monday.
Laurinaitis’ feat was mentioned during a timeout, and a brief video tribute was shown on the Dome scoreboards.
“I’ve been blessed by the Lord to be healthy for seven years,” said Laurinaitis, who made his 99th consecutive start Sunday. “I’ve been humbled that the Rams have believed in me for seven years. And I really just play my heart out every week trying to make those that know me, and my teammates, and everybody proud.
“I just wish we could’ve won this one.”
September 28, 2015 at 1:41 am in reply to: reporters turn their weary eyes to the Steelers game #31349
znModeratorBlunders abound in Rams’ latest loss
Benjamin Hochman
Hey, um, Nick Foles … WHAT WAS THAT PASS?
That vile projectile was the worst play of the game, at the worst time in the game, in a game that should prove to be the Rams’ worst loss.
I can’t get over that play. Can you? Have you? Has Nick?
Sunday’s Pittsburgh-St. Louis game was the football equivalent of a Gerrit Cole-Michael Wacha pitchers’ duel. The final score was 12-6 Steelers, but with 3:02 left, the Rams trailed just 9-6. And the Rams’ defense forced a Pittsburgh punt.
This was Nick’s time. First-and-10 on his 17. Field goal ties it. Touchdown probably wins it. Orchestrate a drive. Make St. Louis come alive.
First play: interception.
“That ball was a forced throw, it was a bad decision by me,” he said after the game. “It’s on me.”
The pass was not only overthrown, but it appeared he didn’t even see the safety who made the pick. Foles didn’t have a terrible game, per se, but the ramification of this play for the Rams? Well …
St. Louis entered the day 1-1, and this was a winnable home game — the Steelers’ starting quarterback out with an injury, and the Rams with the ball with 3:02 to play. And let’s be honest. The Rams are already struggling for support in this town. Some fans are finding reasons not to care. So, if anything, a 2-1 record would’ve given the team a little momentum. Instead? Man. The Rams are now 1-2. Their offense is offensive. Next week’s game is at the Arizona Cardinals, who beat the San Francisco 49ers 47-7 on Sunday. And the following game is at the Green Bay Packers, who are good at football.
And so, I can only image the electricity at the Edward Jones Dome on Oct. 25, when the potentially 1-4 Rams host the Cleveland Browns, the same day the Cardinals could host Game 7 of the NLCS.
The intercepted pass was corralled by Steelers safety Will Allen, who at least for a few hours before the conclusion of the Pirates-Cubs game is the most-hated Pittsburgh center fielder here in town. Of the pass, Foles said, “It’s something that I had seen throughout the day and was just trying to take advantage of a middle-of-the-field shot. “
Nick, is it unfair to say the offense has taken a step back since its season-opening win against Seattle?
“I wouldn’t say a step back,” he said — though I would. “We’ve got to put points on the board. As an offense, it’s something that we’re learning, and it’s how do you learn from it? You’re positive about it. It’s early in the season, we’re 1-2, the world’s not ending, we will figure it out. I’m optimistic because of the guys we have, and by the end of the year we’ll be where we want to be.”
Los Angeles?
And that’s the sad thing. The world isn’t ending, but this loss sets up what we all feared: the toxic mix of both the Rams trying to leave and the Rams being bad.
The good news is that the Rams’ defense can keep them in games. This, of course, is a sentence you surely read or said a lot last year, too. But with a flimsy offensive line and Foles making a few noticeably poor decisions Sunday, well, let’s let Jeff Fisher say it:
“Six points isn’t going win you a whole lot of games. And we averaged eight the last two games. … Penalties — not a lot of them, but at the wrong times. … We won’t tolerate those things anymore. … And we had three drops today. And in a field position game like that, when there’s potential swings or potential additional first downs, those are hard to overcome.”
Sunday was a day of blunders at the Dome. Of course, the first one was when the Rams’ pregame pyrotechnics led to a small fire, their greatest low on turf. It was just so St. Louis Rams: In an antiquated arena that just looks slapped together — could the end zones look more plain? — a pregame firework cart not only malfunctioned but lit the playing surface on fire, postponing kickoff.
Then there was Nick’s beautifully floated deep throw in the third quarter, which receiver Lance Kendricks “just kind of lost it in the lights. I couldn’t see it coming down at all. It’s tough because those are the plays we’ve got to make to win the game. If I could take that back, I’d catch it 100 times over. … I saw it go up, but I couldn’t see it coming down at all. Once it hit me, then I saw it obviously. It kind of hit me in the facemask. No excuses though.”
Another contender for top blunder was when left tackle Greg Robinson was flagged for a false start … in the red zone! Because there were so many Steelers fans in the Dome, the noise forced the home team to go to a silent count.
And finally, there was the final dagger, the Foles interception, which very well may have altered the course of the season.
“I’ve gone through this before,” Foles said. “Every week you go into it optimistic and you’re working hard. … It’s early in the season. It’s not like the season stops today.”
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