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    I figure it’s true, too, yet I think it would be a mistake to unload him. I would keep him through the pre-season, and try to deal him to some team that needs a RB. I don’t think this is Zac Stacey. Who knows? He might be worth keeping in the end. What if Gurley or Cunningham goes down?

    New back (draft or UDFA)? Trey Watts? I don’t think they will ever put themselves in a position where they have only 2 viable backs.

    If they have soured on Mason, as Wagoner suggests, then, chances are good they provide an alternative.

    Frankly I thought a lot of what happened last year with Mason, was Mason.

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    2016 NFL Draft Prospects: Quarterbacks

    Feb. 4, 2016.

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2016QB.php

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    Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 233. Arm: 32.38. Hand: 10.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
    Projected Round (2016): 1.
    2/4/16: Sources have said they think Wentz could be the best quarterback prospect in the 2016 NFL Draft. In order to help make that happen, Wentz had an excellent Senior Bowl showing off his big arm, ball placement, field vision and athleticism. Teams believe he will continue to rise in the lead up to the draft.

    Multiple teams have told me they gave Wentz a first-round grade and think that he is the real deal. They say that Wentz has a good arm, size and athleticism, plus they love him off the field. They also like his pocket presence, field vision, experience under center, ability to make play calls in the huddle, and potential to grow in the NFL. They believe that he will fill out his frame in a NFL strength and conditioning program. The big challenge for Wentz, in their view, will be the drastic change in the speed of the game coming from North Dakota State’s opponents compared to the NFL. He also will need to mature into a leadership role.

    On top of his good arm, mobility, pocket presence, field vision and accuracy. Wentz operated in a pro-style system with play calls in the huddle and working under center. In 2015, he completed 64 percent of his passes for 1,669 yards with 16 touchdowns and two interceptions while missing almost half the year with a broken wrist. Wentz also had four rushing touchdowns.

    As a junior, Wentz completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,111 yard with 25 touchdowns and six interceptions. He also had six touchdowns on the ground. Wentz was a backup as a freshman and sophomore.

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    Jared Goff*, QB, California
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 210.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
    Projected Round (2016): 1.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Goff completed 64 percent of his passes for 4,719 yards with 43 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He beat up on weak competition early in the season, but he didn’t play as well against quality opponents like Utah, UCLA and USC. Goff bounced back to close out the regular season well against Stanford and Arizona State.

    Still, Goff demonstrated his strong, accurate arm and quality field vision. He also has functional mobility to avoid rushers and pick up some yards on the ground. Goff needs to add weight for the NFL and also could have some issues with getting rattled and handling the rush at the next level.

    Goff’s stats were inflated by a college offense that has a lot of instant passes, and coming from that system, he will need development for the NFL with field vision, working under center and holding up in the face of a pass rush. Goff displayed good mechanics at times, but also had some issues maintaining that when faced with a lot of pressure, and that led to some bad habits of throwing off his back foot. He has said he is working to correct those problems.

    Some scouts said that Goff has been overhyped. One scouting director said that Goff was a good player, but he didn’t feel he was “top of the draft” worthy right now. Another scout said they were lukewarm on Goff as a pro quarterback.

    In speaking to another general manager from a team that is among the best at evaluating and developing quarterbacks, he felt that Goff was the best of the draft-eligible signal-callers. Obviously, there isn’t a real consensus about Goff among NFL evaluators.

    8/8/14: Goff enjoyed a breakout 2014 season. The sophomore completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,973 yards with 35 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Goff displayed some pocket-passing potential while playing with a less-than-ideal supporting cast. He struggled against USC’s good defense taking sacks and had a few interceptions dropped. Goff needs to perform better against top competition. He became the starter as a freshman in 2013 and completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,508 yards with 18 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

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    Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Lynch completed 67 percent of his passes for 3,778 yards with 28 touchdowns and three interceptions. He has a good skill set, but is raw and needs development. Lynch has an arm that can make all the throws for the pro game, and he flashed the ability to pass accurately and beat good coverage with precise completions into tight windows. Lynch also has the athleticism to make plays with his feet and or throws on the run.

    However, there is a lot of work that Lynch needs. His footwork and field vision are the primary areas to improve. Lynch was inconsistent with passing accurately and working through his progressions. He needs to become more consistent with the ability to thrive as a pocket passer as well. His eye movement and working through his progressions need to be faster and more consistent. According to sources, his head coach Justin Fuente said that Lynch needs to mature on the field with his football I.Q. and needs to mature off the field to handle being a franchise quarterback. Fuente coached Andy Dalton at TCU, and he told NFL evaluators that Dalton was far ahead of where Lynch is coming out of college.

    In his previous seasons as a starter, Lynch used his running ability more. As a sophomore, he ran for 321 yards with 13 touchdowns while completing 63 percent of his passes for 3,031 yards with 22 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Lynch completed 58 percent of his passes for 2,056 yards with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions as a freshman.

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    Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 218.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-3.
    2/4/16: Sources say that Cook has good height, weight and delivery, but a number of evaluators don’t really like him. They think he’s too inaccurate and question his lack of leadership with his team not voting him a team captain. If one highly touted quarterback prospect slides like others have in years past, Cook could be the prime candidate. He made a big mistake turning down his Senior Bowl invitation and the opportunity to address some of these concerns.

    In 2015, Cook connected on 56 percent passes for 3,131 yards with 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He played well against Oregon, but wasn’t overwhelming against some mediocre opponents, though he had a prolific game against Rutgers. The Spartans have admitted their play calling was overly conservative at times and needed to let Cook throw more often. Late in the regular season, he played with an injured shoulder.

    Cook has athleticism, good size, experience in a pro-style system and a strong arm that can make some beautiful throws downfield into tight windows. However, he isn’t a quarterback who drops back and throws 50 times a game while dominating a defense. His accuracy needs improvement as well. Cook was more of a game-manager for Michigan State, and that could be his future in the NFL.

    8/8/15: Cook completed 58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions. League sources identified Cook as a potential high first-round pick. He needs to improve certain aspects of his game to meet that grade though, mainly accuracy. Cook has proven to NFL evaluators that he has a big arm, pocket presence, the mobility to avoid rushers and roll out, and the ability to make the occasional precision throw. Cook plays in a pro-style system and has shown steady improvement with his ability to function out of the pocket while working through his progressions.

    Cook has often thrown the ball better than his numbers illustrate. He can make some amazingly accurate throws into extremely tight windows for completions downfield, but also has some inconsistency with his accuracy on the routine passes and when going deep down the middle. Cook has to improve his footwork, which in turn will help his accuracy.

    2013 was Cook’s first year as the full-time starter, and he got off to a slow start before coming on strong in the second half of the season to help lead the Spartans to a Big Ten title and victory over Stanford in the Rose Bowl. Cook completed 58.7 percent of his passes for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions for the year. He had great games against Ohio State (24-40 for 304 with 3 touchdowns, 1 interception) and Stanford (22-36 for 332 yards with 2 touchdown, 1 interception) to close out that season.

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    Cardale Jones*, QB, Ohio State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Jones displayed his big arm and great skill set, but must get better at reading the field and with his passing technique. He was undefeated in his 11 starts in college, but with so little playing time, needing development is understandable. Jones entered the 2016 NFL Draft rather than return to Ohio State.

    Jones completed 63 percent of his passes in 2015 for 1,460 yards with eight touchdowns and five interceptions. Aside from his right-arm cannon, he also displayed his running ability and how difficult he is to sack with his huge size. Jones is very physically gifted, but he’s raw and needs to gain experience.

    8/8/15: Jones put on a display in 2014 after entering the starting lineup behind Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett. Jones has great size and a cannon for an arm. In his three starts, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 860 yards with seven touchdowns and two interceptions. Jones has a lot of upside and it will be fun to watch him in 2015, assuming he wins the starting job over J.T. Barrett.

    Jones needs to improve his ability to throw while under heat. He also needs to get faster working through his progressions, moving his eyes and getting rid of the ball. Jones can hold onto the ball too long when plays start to break down on him. When Jones has a clean pocket, he displays the ability to make any throw the NFL asks for. While Jones is a pocket passer, he will take yards on the ground when available and has some athleticism as a runner. Jones can be tough to bring down for defenders in or out of the pocket.

    Sources from multiple teams said that they view Jones as having a first-round skill set and if performed for an entire season the way he played in his three starts, he would be a first-rounder. Teams have questions about Jones’ football I.Q. and off-the-field maturity, so his pre-draft interviews will be important to address those questions.

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    Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 234.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.87.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-4.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Hackenberg completed 54 percent of his passes for 2,525 yards and 16 touchdowns with six interceptions. He had terrible games against Rutgers and Temple, but good outings against Buffalo, San Diego State, Indiana and Illinois.

    Clearly, Hackenberg needs to improve his accuracy and decision-making, but the junior was playing in a bad situation with a weak offensive line and receivers. Over the last two seasons, Hackenberg routinely made some beautiful throws that are dropped by his receivers, but also missed too often on routine completions. He is a pro-style quarterback who was forced to play in a college spread offense that didn’t fit him well at all. Sources say that Penn State head coach James Franklin beat Hackenberg down and handled him terribly.

    In speaking with sources, some teams grade Hackenberg on the third day of the 2016 NFL Draft as a fourth-rounder, but others have graded him in Round 3. Even the teams that graded him after the third round expect him to be selected in the second or third round. One general manager said Hackenberg has just average accuracy and is a statue in the pocket. There also was reports about Hackenberg being disliked in the locker room and not a leader, but in speaking with Buccaneers left tackle Donovan Smith – a former Nittany Lion – and Penn State defensive end Carl Nassib, they both dismissed that, saying Hackenberg wasn’t a finger pointer and did everything asked of him. Nassib was shocked to hear of those reports and said that Hackenberg was a great teammate.

    8/8/15: Hackenberg completed 56 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,677 yards with 12 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He played better than the numbers indicate as his supporting cast was a huge liability, including an awful offensive line. Hackenberg closed out the 2014 season with a huge comeback overtime win over Boston College, completing 34-of-50 for 371 yards and four touchdowns.

    In terms of a skill set, Hackenberg has what the NFL is looking for with a size, pocket presence, field-vision potential and a strong arm that can push the ball downfield. James Franklin’s offense didn’t help Hackenberg develop much as a NFL pocket-passer prospect last season as so many of the play calls were instant throws because of a weak offensive line that couldn’t maintain its blocks. Hackenberg needs to improve his ball placement and decision-making in some areas, but his supporting cast really hurt him last year. At times, Hackenberg makes some brilliant throws downfield after working off his first read, and if he does that regularly as a junior, he could be a high first-rounder.

    Hackenberg was the star recruit for Bill O’Brien and proved the hype legit during an impressive freshman season that saw him named the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. Hackenberg completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,955 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2013. He also ran for four touchdowns. Sources in the NFL feel that Hackenberg could end up being an elite quarterback prospect.

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    Jacoby Brissett, QB, N.C. State
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 236. Arm: 32.88. Hand. 9.5.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.83.
    Projected Round (2016): 3-4.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Brissett completed 60 percent of his passes for 2,662 yards with 20 touchdowns and six interceptions. Sources with teams say that Brissett is a sleeper quarterback who they’re keeping an eye on. As we reported in the rumormill, some east coast scouts rate Brissett ahead of other more highly touted prospects like Penn State’s Christian Hackenberg. Other sources aren’t fans of Brissett. He had a decent week at the Senior Bowl, but didn’t light a fire under his draft stock.

    8/8/15: 2014 saw Brissett complete 60 percent of his passes for 2,344 yards with 22 touchdowns and five interceptions. He showed potential as a pocket passer. Brissett was on fire against a lot of weak competition even before he lit up Florida State (32-of-48 for 359 yards with three touchdowns). Brissett sat out the 2013 season per NCAA rules after transferring from Florida. He spent 2012 as Jeff Driskel’s backup. Brissett played a little as a freshman backup during the 1-year tenure of Charlie Weis as Florida’s offensive coordinator.

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    Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 226. Arm: 31.38. Hand: 9.88.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/4/16: Prescott completed 66 percent of his passes in 2015 for 3,793 yards with 29 touchdowns and five interceptions. On the ground, he totaled 588 yards with 10 scores. Sources say they view Prescott as Tim Tebow 2.0 from playing in the same offense, though Prescott has better throwing mechanics and functions better out of the pocket than Tebow did entering the draft. They think Prescott needs to become a better pocket passer, but they numerous teams loved him in the Senior Bowl meetings. They were impressed with his football I.Q. and his leadership skills to be captain in a NFL locker room.

    8/8/15: Prescott completed 61 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,449 yards with 27 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He averaged 4.7 yards per carry for 986 yards with 14 scores on the ground. Prescott underwhelmed against Alabama, but that was really the only game of the season in which he struggled.

    Prescott’s play has been somewhat reminiscent of Tim Tebow at Florida because Prescott is playing in the same offense for Tebow’s former offensive coordinator, Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State head coach. Like Tebow, Prescott needs to improve his pocket passing and accuracy for the NFL.

    In 2013, Prescott completed 58 percent of his passes for 940 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions.

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    Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 217. Arm: 32. Hand: 10.13.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/4/16: As a senior, Hogan completed 68 percent of his passes for 2,867 yards with 27 touchdowns and eight interceptions. In his good games, he looked like an early-rounder; in his bad games, he looked like an undrafted free agent. Hogan has a good enough skill set to play as a pro, but looks more like a backup-caliber signal-caller in the NFL. Sources said they like Hogan’s intelligence to become a quality backup quarterback.

    8/8/15: In 2014, Hogan completed 66 percent of his passes for 2,792 yards with 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He had five rushing touchdowns, too. Hogan was still streaky as a passer, looking inept at times and throwing excellent passes on other attempts. He needs to become more consistent in order to rise as a senior.

    Hogan wasn’t as good as expected in 2013 as Stanford’s passing attack was underwhelming. For the year, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,630 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Hogan averaged 4.5 yards per carry for 314 yards on the ground with two touchdowns, too.

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    Cody Kessler, QB, USC
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 224. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.88.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Kessler threw for 3,536 yards with 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions while completing 67 percent of his passes. If he had a better physical skill set, he would be rated higher, but he is undersized. Kessler’s lack of arm strength looks like a real weakness for the NFL. He did not impress at the Senior Bowl. Kessler looks like a game-manager backup quarterback in the NFL.

    8/8/15: Kessler completed 71 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,505 yards with 36 touchdowns and four interceptions. He was an effective game-manager for the Trojans. Kessler is undersized and could be lacking in his physical skill set to be a starter for the NFL. He needs to prove that wrong as a senior. Kessler was considering entering the 2015 NFL Draft, but decided to return to USC.

    It took some time, but Kessler eventually won the starting quarterback spot for USC to replace Matt Barkley, and Kessler has improved as he gained experience. Kessler completed 65 percent of his passes in 2013 for 2,968 yards with 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions.

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    Nate Sudfeld, QB, Indiana
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
    Projected Round (2016): 5-7.
    2/4/16: Sudfeld completed 61 percent of his passes this season for 3,184 yards with 24 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has good size and a strong arm, but he needs to get faster in his delivery. Sudfeld also has to improve his accuracy, ball placement, field vision and play faster. He had a quality week at the East-West Shrine and is a late-round developmental candidate.

    8/8/15: Sudfeld missed half of the 2014 season over a season-ending shoulder injury. 2013 saw him complete 60 percent of his passes for 2,523 yards with 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

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    Vernon Adams Jr., QB, Oregon
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 200.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.67.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/4/16: Adams had a solid senior year for Oregon, completing 65 percent for 2,643 yards with 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has a quality arm, athleticism, touch on his passes and nice field vision. The lack of size is the huge negative for Adams. While he has some similarities to Russell Wilson, the odds of Adams panning out like Wilson are extremely remote. Prior to playing for Oregon, Adams played at Eastern Washington.

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    Brandon Allen, QB, Arkansas
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 214. Arm: 30.5. Hand: 8.5.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.91.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/4/16: Allen was a game-manager quarterback for Arkansas the past few seasons, but as a senior, he produced some big plays, leading the Razorbacks to overtime wins over Auburn and Ole Miss. In 2015, Allen completed 66 percent of his passes for 3,440 yards with 30 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He became a nice college quarterback, but he doesn’t look like he has a starter’s skill set for the NFL.

    Allen had a respectable week at the Senior Bowl, and sources say they liked him as a late-round or undrafted free agent to compete for their third quarterback spot.

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    Matt Johnson, QB, Bowling Green
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 219.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.83.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/4/16: Sources say that Johnson is a Case Keenum-type quarterback prospect. Johnson has a decent arm and is a gamer, but limited for the next level. The redshirt senior completed 67 percent of his passes this season for 4,946 yards with 46 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

    Johnson missed almost all of 2014 with an injury, but completed 64 percent of his passes the year before for 3,467 yards with 25 touchdowns and seven interceptions.

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    Jacob Coker, QB, Alabama
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 236. Arm: 31.38. Hand: 9.88.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.88.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/4/16: Coker had a rocky start to the year, but played better to help lead Alabama to a National Championship. He completed 67 percent of his passes in 2015 for 3,110 yards with 21 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

    Coker has good size and a strong arm, but looks like a project for the NFL. He has a long windup in his delivery and lacks athleticism in the pocket. Coker didn’t impress at the Senior Bowl. As one source said, “Coker is a poor man’s Mike Glennon.”

    8/8/15: Coker was Blake Sims’ backup last season. Coker has a good skill set, but he needs to be the starter and effective to rise.

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    Brandon Doughty, QB, Western Kentucky
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 220.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.86.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/4/16: Doughty has some vocal fan supporters based off his production and video-game stat line, but in speaking with sources, they haven’t mentioned Doughty as a pro prospect who they’re impressed with. He doesn’t have an NFL arm and was unimpressive at the East-West Shrine.

    In 2015, the senior completed 72 percent of his passes for 5,055 yards with 48 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Doughty completed 68 percent of his passes in 2014 for 4,830 yards with 49 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

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    Jeff Driskel, QB, Louisiana Tech
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 230. Arm: 32.5. Hand: 9.75.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
    Projected Round (2016): 7-FA.
    2/4/16: Driskel has the skill set to be a quality NFL starting quarterback. He is big, athletic, and has the arm strength to make all the throws. However, Driskel doesn’t have the mentality of a pro signal-caller. While at Florida, Driskel was a disaster with turnovers, poor accuracy, and taking an offense that had pro talent and making it inept.

    In 2014, Driskel had future NFL running backs (Matt Jones and Kelvin Taylor), wide receivers (Demarcus Robinson), and offensive linemen (D.J. Humphries and Max Garcia), yet still struggled to move the ball. Driskel completed 54 percent of his passes that season for 1,140 yards with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

    Driskel transferred to Louisiana Tech and beat up on the weak competition in 2015, completing 62 percent of his passes for 4,033 yards with 27 touchdowns and eight interceptions. At the Senior Bowl, his skill set flashed at times, but he didn’t play well enough to undo the damage done by his play at Florida. Sources say that they’ve given Driskel an undrafted grade.

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    Travis Wilson, QB, Utah
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
    Projected Round (2016): 7-FA.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Wilson completed 65 percent of his throws for 2,095 yards with 13 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He has big size and an arm, but isn’t a NFL passer.

    8/8/15: Wilson completed 60 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,012 yards with 17 touchdowns and four interceptions. He was in and out of the lineup on top of being benched at times. Wilson has a good size and a nice arm but has to get more consistent. He completed 56 percent of his passes in 2013 for 1,827 yards with 16 touchdowns and 16 interceptions across nine games.

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    Jake Rudock, QB, Michigan
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 208.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.91.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Rudock played at Iowa for a few seasons before transferring to Michigan for his senior year. He had a solid final season and was a functional game-manager for Jim Harbaugh. In 2015, Rudock completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,017 yards with 20 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He was a smart quarterback, but lacks the arm or athleticism to be rated higher.

    Rudock did not impress at the East-West Shrine practices. He wasn’t horrible, but he looks like an undrafted quarterback who will compete as a training camp to be a team’s third quarterback.

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    Joel Stave, QB, Wisconsin
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 219.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.86.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Stave has some size to him and occasionally makes nice throws, but he was never consistent in college and had some rough slumps. That was reinforced at the East-West Shrine.

    In 2015, Stave completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,687 yards with 11 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. His best season came in 2013 when he completed 62 percent for 2,494 yards with 22 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. Stave had Jared Abbrederis at wideout and Melvin Gordon in the backfield that season.

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    Everett Golson, QB, Florida State
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 185.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Golson completed 67 percent of his passes for 1,778 yards with 11 touchdowns and three interceptions. He had some ugly struggles for the Seminoles. Golson didn’t play against Syracuse and Clemson because of a concussion and backup Sean Maguire kept the job afterward.

    8/8/15: Golson landed at Florida State after leaving Notre Dame. 2014 was Golson’s return to football after being suspended for the 2013 entire season for cheating on an exam. Perhaps the year away was good for him; he occasionally looked improved with his passing skills. However, Golson had problems with turnovers. The senior completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,445 yards with 29 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. He had eight touchdowns on the ground.

    Golson previously led Notre Dame to the National Championship game in 2012. The first-year starter completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,405 yards with 12 touchdowns and six interceptions. He also ran for 415 yards and six touchdowns that season.

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    Wes Lunt, QB, Illinois
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 215.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.82.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: This year, Lunt completed 56 percent of his passes for 2,761 yards with 14 touchdowns and six interceptions.

    8/8/15: Lunt completed 64 percent of his passes in 2014 for 1,763 yards and 14 touchdowns with three interceptions. He missed five games with injuries and played in a running offense.

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    Max Wittek, QB, Hawaii
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 235.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Wittek completed 47 percent of his passes for 1,542 yards with seven touchdowns and 15 interceptions.

    8/8/15: Wittek didn’t play in 2014 after transferring from USC. He was a backup as a Trojan and didn’t beat out Cody Kessler to replace Matt Barkley.

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    Chuckie Keeton, QB, Utah State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 200.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.65.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Keeton missed most of the regular season with a sprain of the MCL. He completed 52 percent of his passes for 1,006 yards with four touchdowns and seven interceptions in his seven games.

    8/8/15: Keeton went out for the year with a knee injury early in 2014. He completed 55 percent of his passes in his three-game season for 426 yards with two touchdowns and four interceptions.

    Keeton started the 2013 season off well by completing 69 percent of his passes for 1,388 yards with 18 touchdowns and two interceptions. On the ground, he averaged 4.4 yards per carry for 241 yards and two touchdowns. Keeton injured his knee against BYU and was out for the rest of the year.

    Keeton had a breakout sophomore season and was the 2012 First-Team All-WAC quarterback. He completed 68 percent of his passes that year for 3,373 yards with 27 touchdowns and nine interceptions that year. Keeton also ran for 751 yards (619 net) with eight touchdowns.

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    Justin Holman*, QB, Central Florida
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 213.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Holman completed 51 percent of his passes this season for 1,379 yards with seven touchdowns and 14 interceptions. He fractured his right index finger in Week 2 and missed three games.

    8/8/15: Holman replaced Blake Bortles for Central Florida last season and had a solid debut, completing 57 percent of his passes for 2,952 yards and 23 touchdowns with 14 interceptions. Holman flashed at times, but he needs to improve his accuracy and cut down on interceptions as a junior.

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    Davis Webb, QB, Texas Tech
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Webb was relegated to backup duty behind Patrick Mahomes.

    8/8/15: In 2014, Webb completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,539 yards with 24 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He missed the final four games with an injury. Webb has to prove he is more than a college-system quarterback.

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    J.W. Walsh, QB, Oklahoma State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: Walsh was the backup quarterback to Mason Rudolph.

    8/8/15: Walsh only played two games in 2014, completing 56 percent of his passes for 233 yards with a touchdown and interception. He broke his foot in the second game and missed the rest of the season. Walsh earned playing time as a redshirt freshman in 2012 after backing up Brandon Weeden in 2011. Walsh flashed some passing and running ability during his playing time in 2012, completing 67 percent of his passes for 1,564 yards with 13 touchdowns and three interceptions. He ran for 320 yards (290 net) and seven touchdowns, too. In 2013, Walsh completed 59.5 percent of his passes for 1,333 yards with nine touchdowns and five interceptions.

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    Trevone Boykin, QB, TCU
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.71.
    Projected Round (2016): FA.
    2/4/16: In 2015, Boykin completed 65 percent of his passes for 3,575 yards with 31 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. His season ended slightly early – a few days before TCU’s bowl game – when he was arrested following a bar fight and assaulting an officer. That pretty much ended any shot the senior had at getting drafted. Boykin doesn’t display the traits of a pro pocket passer and lacks the size of the vast majority of NFL quarterbacks.

    Boykin was a college quarterback who is more of a third-day-caliber prospect – before the arrest at least. He should be one of those signal-callers who is being discussed as switching positions to wide receiver, running back or cornerback.

    8/8/15: Boykin did a lot of damage with his arm and legs last season. He ran for 707 yards with eight touchdowns while completing 61 percent of his passes for 3,901 yards with 33 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Boykin has to improve as a pocket passer to improve his NFL stock.

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    Michael Thomas*, WR, Ohio State
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 212.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
    Projected Round (2015): 1-2.
    2/6/16: Thomas has an impressive combination of size and speed. He could be the most well-rounded prospect at his position. Thomas can make plays in all levels of the defense. His numbers were suppressed by Ohio State’s offense and quarterback situation, but he has mismatch speed and size. Thomas looks like a good fit as an X receiver to challenge defenses vertically along the sideline.

    In speaking with sources, one team said they agreed with my late first-round, early second-round pick grade for Thomas. Others said they had him in the second. So that appears to be Thomas draft range.

    In 2015, Thomas had 56 receptions for 781 yards and nine touchdowns this year. Thomas impressed in the season opener with his battling of Virginia Tech cornerback Kendall Fuller. After moving the chains on a third down, Thomas burned Fuller for a 26-yard touchdown on a stop-and-go that Fuller bit on.

    8/10/15: Thomas was the Buckeyes’ possession receiver in 2014 with Devin Smith serving as the deep threat. Thomas caught 54 passes for 799 yards and nine touchdowns on the season. He also dealt with a running quarterback in J.T. Barrett for much of the year. With Smith in the NFL, Thomas could have a big season if the Buckeyes go with the cannon-armed Cardale Jones as their starting quarterback.

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    Laquon Treadwell*, WR, Ole Miss
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 229.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Treadwell totaled 82 receptions for 1,153 yards and 11 touchdowns. He never displayed the speed to separate from defensive backs, thus he’s not a high first-round talent. Treadwell is a possession receiver for the NFL. He is good after the catch and can win contested passes, but won’t stretch a defense with speed or separate from quality NFL cornerbacks. Treadwell is a tremendous blocker though. Thus, in speaking with teams, Treadwell is grading out as a late first-rounder although the team that likes him enough to draft him could pull the trigger on him in the middle of the first round.

    8/10/15: Treadwell had 48 receptions for 632 yards and five touchdowns in 2014 before an ugly knee injury ended his season. Treadwell is a natural receiver who causes a lot of mismatches. He was one of the top recruits in the nation, and as a freshman, he was immediately effective against SEC defensive backs. Treadwell caught 72 receptions for 608 yards with five scores in 2013.

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    Will Fuller*, WR, Notre Dame
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 184.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
    Projected Round (2016): 1-2.
    2/6/16: Fuller was a play-maker for the Fighting Irish and could be the most lethal deep-threat receiver in this draft class. He has shown the speed to be a vertical weapon and get separation deep downfield. Fuller had 62 catches for 1,258 yards and 14 touchdowns on the year despite playing with an inexperienced quarterback. In 2014, he notched 76 receptions for 1,094 yards and 15 touchdowns.

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    Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 204. Arm: 31.88. Hand: 9.13.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
    Projected Round (2015): 1-3.
    2/6/16: While Miller is raw and needs development, he set his draft stock on fire with an excellent Senior Bowl. Miller was getting the better of defensive backs with speed to get separation with the size and strength to outfight them for the ball. Sources said they were disappointed in Miller’s lack of football I.Q. considering he was a starting quarterback, but his practice performance got teams very excited for his NFL play-making potential.

    Miller had 26 catches for 341 yards and three scores in 2015. As a runner, the former quarterback recorded 260 yards on 42 carries and a score. Miller displayed some natural hands with the speed, athleticism and explosion to get separation. He showed that his speed and athleticism make him a legitimate prospect as a receiver and runner.

    Miller was phenomenal against Virginia Tech with six carries for 62 yards, including a 53-yard touchdown run. As a receiver, he had two receptions for 78 yards with a 54-yard score. In speaking with sources, that tape really excited scouts about his NFL potential as a mismatch weapon.

    8/10/15: Miller is said to be moving to wide receiver as a senior, which is better for his NFL hopes as he didn’t project as a pocket passer. Miller was out for the season in 2014 with a shoulder injury to his throwing arm. Miller previously had offseason surgery to the same shoulder before the re-injury during last season’s fall practice. In 2013, Miller completed 64 percent of his passes for 2,094 yards, 24 touchdowns and seven interceptions. His passing skills were somewhat improved, but he still had a long ways to go for the pros, hence his move to receiver. Miller rumbled for 1,283 yards and 12 touchdowns on the ground that season.

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    Tyler Boyd*, WR, Pittsburgh
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 190.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Boyd totaled 91 receptions for 926 yards and six touchdowns. He had 40 carries for 349 yards, too. Boyd saw tons of extra coverage attention. He was suspended for the 2015 season opener because of a DUI arrest during the offseason.

    Boyd is a quick receiver who generally has good hands and gets separation from defensive backs. He isn’t overly fast, big or physical, so that makes him more of a second-day prospect.

    8/10/15: In 2014, Boyd notched 78 receptions for 1,126 yards and eight touchdowns. The junior has speed to go with his size. He was impressive against good defensive backs last year, including Virginia Tech’s tough secondary. Boyd has enough speed to get separation with a burst to rip off yards after the catch. He runs good routes, is very physical, has reliable hands, tracks the bell extremely well, makes acrobatic catches and out-fights defensive backs for 50-50 balls.

    In Boyd’s first game for the Panthers in 2013, he gave Florida State some problems. That set the tone for him to break a lot of Larry Fitzgerald’s freshman records. Boyd caught 85 passes for 1,174 yards with seven touchdowns in 2013. He also ran for a score and returned a punt for a touchdown.

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    Corey Coleman*, WR, Baylor
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 190.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
    Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
    2/6/15: In 2015, Coleman had 74 receptions for 1,363 yards and 20 touchdowns. He dominated some weaker competition, and was a vertical play-maker with the speed to score on any reception. Coleman uses his speed and route-running to consistently get separation from defensive backs. He slowed down late in the season.

    Sources say that Coleman is quicker than he is fast and lacks explosion or suddenness. They feel he is a bit of a one-trick pony. Teams were grading him in the late second round.

    8/10/15: Coleman had a strong 2014 season as one of the top receivers for Bryce Petty. Coleman was a vertical weapon who averaged 18 yards per reception. He totaled 1,119 yards on 64 receptions with 11 touchdowns. Coleman also ran the ball 11 times for 53 yards and a score. The junior is a smaller speed receiver who should produce another big year in the Bears’ point-machine offense.

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    Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
    Projected Round (2015): 2-3.
    2/6/15: In 2015, Doctson had 79 catches for 1,327 yards and 14 touchdowns. He didn’t impress in his matchup against Gopher corner Eric Murray, but he was superb in Big XII play.

    Doctson uses his size to make acrobatic catches in the end zone and along the sideline. He has good hands and tremendous leaping ability. Doctson missed the final two games of the regular season with a wrist injury. Some teams have graded out Doctson as a third-rounder. The lack of speed to separate pushes him down.

    8/10/15: Doctson hauled in 65 passes for 1,018 yards and 11 touchdowns in 2014. He had a huge increase in production over his sophomore (36-440-4) and freshman (35-393-5) seasons. Doctson produced almost a quarter of his yardage against Oklahoma State with seven receptions for 225 yards. He started out at Wyoming as a freshman and sat out the 2012 season after transferring.

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    Pharoh Cooper*, WR, South Carolina
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 208.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.47.
    Projected Round (2015): 2-3.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Cooper recorded 66 receptions for 973 yards and eight touchdowns. He played well, and it could have been an even bigger season if quarterback play hadn’t been such a weakness for South Carolina.

    Cooper is a shifty slot receiver with quickness to challenge a defense and get separation from defensive backs. He announced that he is entering the 2016 NFL Draft.

    8/10/15: Entering 2014, many expected Shaq Roland to be the Gamecocks’ star receiver, but Cooper broke out of obscurity to lead South Carolina. Cooper had only three catches for 54 yards as a freshman, but in his sophomore campaign, he exploded with 69 catches for 1,136 yards with nine touchdowns. Cooper also averaged 7.4 yards per carry on 27 attempts for 200 yards and two touchdowns. The junior has serious play-making ability with the quickness to rip off yards in chunks.

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    De’Runnya Wilson*, WR, Mississippi State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 215.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
    Projected Round (2015): 2-4.
    2/6/16: Wilson totaled 60 receptions for 918 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2015. He’s a big possession receiver for the NFL who will struggle to separate from NFL cornerbacks.

    8/10/15: Wilson had a quality sophomore season and worked well with Dak Prescott. In 2014, Wilson caught 47 passes for 680 yards with nine touchdowns. The big question for Wilson will be if he has enough speed to separate from NFL-caliber cornerbacks.

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    Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 208. Arm: 31.25. Hand: 8.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
    Projected Round (2015): 2-4.
    2/6/16: Burbridge had meager career production before a breaking out in 2015. The senior established himself as the Spartans’ No. 1 receiver and was very impressive. Bubridge has reliable hands, runs quality routes, has quickness, and can get some yards after the catch. On the year, he totaled 85 catches for 1,258 yards with seven touchdowns. Those are huge increases over his junior (29-358), sophomore (22-194) and freshman years (29-364).

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    Jalin Marshall**, WR, Ohio State
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.47.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-4.
    2/6/16: Marshall should have returned for his junior season as he would have been the No. 1 wide receiver with Michael Thomas going to the NFL. In 2015, Marshall had 36 receptions for 477 yards and five touchdowns. He had an excellent freshman season with 38 receptions for 499 yards and six touchdowns in 2014.

    Marshall could have produced a lot more as the replacement for Devin Smith, but Ohio State’s quarterback play was a mixed bag in 2015. Marshall is a deep receiver to challenge the defense over the top with speed, but he is one-dimensional and teams are giving him third-round grades.

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    D.J. Foster, WR/RB, Arizona State
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
    Projected Round (2016): 3-5.
    2/6/16: The move of Foster to wide receiver from running back for 2015 backfired, and he wasn’t close to being the play-maker he was in 2014. In 2015, Foster averaged 5.1 yards per carry for 280 yards. Through the air, he had 59 receptions for 584 yards and three scores.

    Foster had a dramatic reduction in touches during 2015. For the NFL, he looks more special as a running back who can be a weapon in a passing offense rather than lining up as a wide receiver.

    8/8/15: Arizona State is reportedly moving Foster to wide receiver, but for the NFL, his body type and speed make him a better fit at running back. Foster is an elusive, shifty runner who runs with good pad level and has a burst to him. While he has been a quality runner for Arizona State, his receiving skills will get NFL teams really excited. Foster had 62 receptions for 688 yards and three touchdowns in 2014 with an average of 5.6 yards per carry for 1,081 yards and nine touchdowns on the ground.

    As a sophomore (93-501-6) and freshman (102-493-2), Foster had modest numbers on the ground. However, he was consistent as a receiver with 63 catches for 653 yards and four scores as a sophomore with nice numbers as a freshman (38-533-4). At the very least, Foster could have a role as a third-down back.

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    Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 193. Arm: 30.25. Hand: 9.13.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.42.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Shepard had 86 receptions for 1,288 yards and 11 touchdowns. He made some huge, clutch plays to lead Oklahoma’s comeback win over Tennessee, which set the tone for his senior year. He was huge for the Sooners in close wins over Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma State.

    For the NFL, Shepard is a small, shifty receiver. He can get separation with his quickness and route-running, but looks limited to a slot role. Shepard didn’t play poorly at the Senior Bowl, but wasn’t impressive either.

    8/10/15: Shepard (5-10, 195) is undersized, but he’s been a play-maker for the Sooners. While Shepard isn’t tall, he is put together pretty well and has the quickness to burn defenses for big plays. In 2014, Shepard totaled 50 receptions for 957 yards with five touchdowns. He recorded 51 catches for 603 yards and seven scores in 2013. As a freshman, Shepard had 45 catches for 621 yards and three touchdowns.

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    Geronimo Allison, WR, Illinois
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 200.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    2/6/16: At the East-West Shrine, Allison absolutely dominated the defensive backs. That earned him a late addition to the Senior Bowl, where he continued to be impressive. Allison used his speed to beat defensive backs vertically and get quick separation while also using his size to produce scores in the red-zone scrimmage. As a senior for the Illini, Allison totaled 65 receptions for 882 yards with three touchdowns. He had 41 catches for 598 yards and five scores as a junior.

    Sources say they really like Allison’s skill set. He has quickness for a 6-foot-3 receiver and runs good routes. Allison also has big, soft hands. He is very good at attacking the football away from his body and locking it in. The quickness and those route-running skills could be seen in his red-zone scores. Allison also has length and height.

    The one issue that sources say Allison needs to improve is strength. Going to a NFL strength and conditioning program should remedy that.

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    Tajaé Sharpe, WR, Massachusetts
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 189. Arm: 31.13. Hand: 8.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.51.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    2/6/16: Sources from multiple teams were raving about Sharpe at the East-West Shrine. The 6-foot-3, 188-pounder has quickness to go with good size and length. Sharpe has a superb week and caught the heck out of ball. As one scout said, “He’s been dominating these DBs all week.” Sharpe gets separation and is a smooth receiver. He really helped his draft stock at the East-West Shrine.

    As a senior, Sharpe had 111 receptions for 1,319 yards with five touchdowns, so he has good production as well. One team said Sharpe’s in the mid-round range and shouldn’t go any lower than the fifth round.

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    Thomas Duarte*, WR, UCLA
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 225.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Duarte made 53 receptions for 872 yards with 10 touchdowns. He has good size and could rise if he runs well at the Combine. As a sophomore, Duarte had 28 catches for 540 yards with four scores. He played better against weak competition.

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    Kenny Lawler*, WR, California
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2016): 3-5.
    2/6/16: Lawler had a strong junior season as the No. 1 receiver for Jared Goff. The Bear Raid offense inflated the passing numbers of Goff and Lawler, but each one has NFL talent. Lawler has solid hands with size. He totaled 52 receptions for 658 yards with 13 touchdowns in 2015. Lawler contributed as a sophomore (54-701-9) and freshman (37-347-5).

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    Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 183.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
    Projected Round (2015): 3-5.
    2/6/16: Sources say that Listenbee is a one-trick pony as a vertical speed receiver, but he isn’t overly fast, explosive or sudden for the NFL. In 2015, Listenbee caught 30 passes for 597 yards (20.6 average) with five touchdowns as the No. 2 receiver to Josh Doctson. One team told WalterFootball.com that they have a fifth-round grade on Listenbee, but in speaking to other teams, some like him more and think he should go a round or two higher. In 2014, Listenbee made 41 catches for 753 yards with four touchdowns.

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    Rashard Higgins*, WR, Colorado State
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 188.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-5.
    2/6/16: Higgins totaled 75 catches 1,062 yards and eight touchdowns in 2015. He missed one game because of injuries, but his production was down a lot because of Jim McElwain’s departure to Florida and Garrett Grayson’s to the NFL. Higgins has good quickness, route-running and hands. He’s a polished receiver, but being extremely thin has teams grading him as an early rounder on Day 3.

    8/10/15: Higgins was one of the most productive wide receivers in the nation in 2014 as he caught 96 passes for 1,750 yards and 17 touchdowns. The sophomore showed excellent hands and route-running. With head coach Jim McElwain in Florida and quarterback Garrett Grayson playing for the New Orleans Saints, Higgins’ production is likely to decline as a junior. He had 68 receptions for 837 yards and six scores as a freshman.

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    Leonte Carroo, WR, Rutgers
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 217. Arm: 30.38. Hand: 9.38.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-5.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Carroo made 39 receptions for 809 yards with 10 touchdowns. He missed 2.5 games this season on different suspensions, but finished the season with the team. Carroo also missed games against Wisconsin and Michigan with an injured ankle. At the Senior Bowl, Carroo showed a lack of speed and inability to get separation. He is stiff and tight.

    Carroo also had a domestic assault arrest. After a loss, he reportedly picked up his girlfriend and slammed her on a concrete surface. That is going to harm his draft grade significantly, and a number of teams won’t give any consideration to drafting Carroo based on their internal policies regarding domestic abusers.

    8/10/15: Rutgers has always featured a ground-based offense, but Carroo reeled in 55 passes for 1,086 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2014. He produced against some good teams like Ohio State (5-100) and Nebraska (5-127), but was held in check by Michigan State (1-6) and its NFL-caliber defensive backs.

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    Chris Brown, WR, Notre Dame
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-6.
    2/6/16: Brown has a nice skill set and is a sleeper receiver who was caught up in the Fighting Irish’s crowded depth chart. He impressed in the one-on-ones at the East-West Shrine with separation from corners. Brown had some touch catches and showed soft hands over the week.

    As a senior, Brown had 48 receptions for 597 yards with four touchdowns. He contributed as a junior (39-548-1), but between the crowded depth chart and quarterback changes Brown really didn’t get a chance to break out. He came through at the East-West Shrine though. Sources say that Brown helped himself.

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    Chris Moore, WR, Cincinnati
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 203. Arm: 32.25. Hand: 9.25.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/6/15: Moore was a solid contributor for the Bearcats over the past three seasons. His senior year was hurt by quarterbacks going in-and-out of the lineup, but he still produced 870 yards on 40 receptions (22 average) with seven touchdowns. As a junior, Moore had 30 catches for 673 yards with eight touchdowns. His sophomore year (45-645-9) was a quality year as well. The Tampa, Florida product played at the Senior Bowl but didn’t impress.

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    Malcolm Mitchell, WR, Georgia
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 194. Arm: 32.88. Hand: 10.38.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/6/15: Mitchell totaled 58 catches for 865 yards and five touchdowns in 2015. He flashed for Georgia, including a good performance against Alabama. Sources are lukewarm on Mitchell’s pro potential and are grading him on the third day of the 2016 NFL Draft. He didn’t help himself at the Senior Bowl.

    8/10/15: Mitchell missed the first four games of 2014, but returned to the field for Georgia in limited duty. He made 28 catches for 229 yards and three scores across eight games. Mitchell’s 2013 season ended almost before it began as he tore an ACL in that season’s opener against Clemson. In 2012, Mitchell totaled 40 receptions for 572 yards and four touchdowns. The sophomore also averaged 23 yards per kick return. He has mix of size and speed, but he needs to stay healthy and produce in 2015.

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    Devon Cajuste, WR, Stanford
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 228.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/6/16: Cajuste had 383 yards on 27 receptions and three touchdowns in 2015. He is a sleeper receiver with a combination of size and quickness. Cajuste had a solid week at the East-West Shrine. He would be better off gaining weight and playing tight end if possible.

    8/10/15: With Ty Montgomery in the NFL, Cajuste could be the No. 1 option for Kevin Hogan in 2015. As a junior, Cajuste hauled in 34 receptions for 557 yards and six touchdowns. He has size to him and also showed some speed as he made plays vertically downfield in 2014. In 2013, Cajuste recorded 28 catches for 642 yards and five scores.

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    Cayleb Jones*, WR, Arizona
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
    Projected Round (2015): 4-6.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Jones made 55 receptions for 904 yards and five touchdowns. He has good size, but speed could be an issue as a pro. Jones declared for the 2016 NFL Draft, but should have returned for his senior year.

    8/10/15: Jones broke out for Arizona in 2014 with 73 receptions for 1,019 yards with nine touchdowns. He showed a nice ability to be a possession receiver. Showing the speed to separate will be important for Jones in 2015.

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    Nelson Spruce, WR, Colorado
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.61.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Spruce totaled 89 catches for 1,053 yards with four touchdowns.

    8/10/15: Spruce was one of the most productive wideouts in the nation early in the 2014 season. After a red-hot start to the year, double coverage and better competition slowed him down in the back half of the season. He totaled 106 catches for 1,198 yards and 12 touchdowns. In 2013, Spruce caught 55 receptions for 650 yards and four touchdowns as the No. 2 receiver with Paul Richardson.

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    Marquez North*, WR, Tennessee
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 221.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
    2/6/16: North was dealing with a knee issue in 2015 and had only five receptions for 46 yards. He missed games against Arkansas, Georgia and Kentucky, along with the second half against Florida, because of injuries. North should have returned for his senior year, but he entered the 2016 NFL Draft. North has physical talent, so he could be nice reward in the late rounds or as an undrafted free agent. His Combine medical check will be very important to his draft stock.

    8/10/15: North recorded 30 receptions for 320 yards and four touchdowns in 2014 before a torn labrum in late October cost him the final five games. He totaled 38 receptions for 496 yards and a touchdown as a freshman. North was a bigger weapon than the totals indicate.

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    Charone Peake, WR, Clemson
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 208. Arm: 34.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.57.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-7.
    2/6/16: Peake had 44 catches for 617 yards and five touchdowns in 2015. His play was somewhat underwhelming as a senior and at the Senior Bowl.

    8/10/15: Peake notched 10 receptions for 80 yards with two touchdowns in 2014, but missed a lot of time with a knee injury that was a carry-over from a torn ACL the year before. Peake recorded five receptions for 58 yards against Georgia in the 2013 season opener before a torn ACL ended his year. He caught 25 receptions for 172 yards with two touchdowns as a sophomore in 2012.

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    Bralon Addison*, WR/RB, Oregon
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 190.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.48.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-7.
    2/6/16: Addison had 63 receptions for 804 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2015. He also carried the ball 17 times for 84 yards and two scores. Addison has some quickness and play-making to him, but lacks size.

    8/10/15: Addison didn’t play in 2014 after tearing his ACL in spring practice. As a sophomore, he hauled in 61 receptions for 890 yards with seven scores in 2013. Addison had 22 catches for 243 yards and three scores as a freshman.

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    Byron Marshall, WR/RB, Oregon
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 201.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.52.
    Projected Round (2016): 5-7.
    2/6/15: Marshall recorded nine receptions for 121 yards and two touchdowns in 2015 before sustaining a season-ending injury that required surgery.

    8/8/15: Marshall was a running back as a sophomore and averaged 6.2 yards per carry for 1,038 yards with 14 touchdowns in 2013. He spent his junior year as a wide receiver and caught 74 passes for 1,003 yards and three scores. Marshall’s versatility could make him a third-down weapon in the NFL.

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    Jordan Payton, WR, UCLA
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 216. Arm: 32.25. Hand: 10.13.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.55.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-7.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Payton totaled 78 catches for 1,106 yards for five touchdowns. He is a solid receiver, but lacks special traits.

    8/10/15: Payton showed a lot of improvement as a junior when he caught 67 passes for 954 yards and seven touchdowns. As a sophomore (38-440-1) and freshman (28-202-1), Payton rotated onto the field as a backup.

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    Roger Lewis*, WR, Bowling Green
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 199.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-7.
    2/6/16: Lewis was productive in Bowling Green’s high-scoring offense. With quarterback Matt Johnson moving on, Lewis decided to enter the 2016 NFL Draft. He caught 85 passes for 1,544 yards with 16 touchdowns in 2015. The previous season, Lewis had 73 catches for 1,093 yards with seven scores.

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    Paul McRoberts, WR, Southeast Missouri State
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 202. Arm: 33.5. Hand: 9.75.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-7.
    2/6/16: In 2015, McRoberts had 76 catches for 940 yards with nine touchdowns. He did enough to earn a Senior Bowl invitation and had a quality week in Mobile to help open up some eyes.

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    D’haquille “Duke” Williams, WR, Auburn
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 216.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-FA.
    2/6/16: Prior to the season, we reported that sources had said that they had significant character and off-the-field concerns with Williams, but likened him as a player to Anquan Boldin. Those issues came to a head when Williams was kicked off Auburn’s football team after Week 5 of the season. He totaled 130 yards and one touchdown on 11 receptions in his abbreviated season. Williams has the talent to be a second-day draft pick, but going undrafted because of character concerns is a real possibility.

    8/10/15: Prior to a knee injury, Williams was leading Auburn in receiving in 2014 and took advantage of teams sending extra coverage toward Sammie Coates. Williams was then suspended for Auburn’s bowl game. He totaled 45 receptions for 730 yards with five touchdowns in his abbreviated season. Williams’ 2014 average of 16 yards per catch illustrates that he has speed to go along with size.

    Williams is a raw receiver, as one could expect given his lack of experience. He needs to improve his route-running and hands. Williams dropped some passes deep downfield that could have gone for big plays. He played at Mississippi Gulf Coast community college before enrolling at Auburn in 2014.

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    Demarcus Robinson*, WR, Florida
    Height: 6-1. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.53.
    Projected Round (2015): 5-FA.
    2/6/16: Robinson totaled 48 catches for 522 yards with two scores in 2015. His opportunities were limited in the early going because he was supposedly in Jim McElwain’s doghouse. Robinson was suspended for the Florida State game. That marked the fourth contest that he has been suspended from in the past three seasons. Sources say that Robinson had a number of failed drug tests for pot.

    Sources say they love Robinson’s game and he’s a first-round talent. However, they think the off-the-field concerns could have the potential to send Robinson into the late rounds, or even the undrafted ranks, depending on how things go in the lead up to the 2016 NFL Draft and in his team interviews. Robinson is said to love football, but needing guidance and structure. Teams love his route-running despite Florida lacking a wide receiver coach in two of the last three seasons entering 2015. Sources say Robinson was given grades between the sixth round and the undrafted ranks.

    8/10/15: Robinson produced in 2014 despite weak quarterback play. He hauled in 53 passes for 810 yards and seven touchdowns. Robinson showed a combination of speed to get separation and an ability to win 50-50 passes. Double coverage and the poor quarterback play held back what could have been a massive season in 2014.

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    Quinshad Davis, WR, North Carolina
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 205.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.61.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/6/16: In 2015, David had 55 receptions for 638 yards and four touchdowns. He is a big receiver, but lacks speed for the next level.

    8/10/15: Davis recorded 38 receptions for 440 yards and six touchdowns during 2014. He then broke his leg in the bowl game. Davis totaled 48 catches for 730 yards and 10 touchdowns in 2013. He had an impressive 2012 season as the leading receiver for North Carolina. The freshman caught 61 passes for 776 yards and five touchdowns. The Tar Heels don’t seem to be getting the most out of Davis.

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    Jay Lee, WR, Baylor
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 214. Arm: 32.88. Hand: 9.63.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.54.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/6/16: Lee made 38 receptions for 758 yards and eight touchdowns in 2015. In 2014, he had 41 catches for 633 yards with six touchdowns. Lee was better than expected at the Senior Bowl.

    The senior was a solid secondary receiver to Corey Coleman, but sources don’t feel that Lee has an NFL skill set. NFL teams feel that Baylor’s point-machine offense inflates the stats of its skill-position players.

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    Ellis Henderson*, WR, Montana
    Height: 6-0. Weight: 195.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
    Projected Round (2015): 6-FA.
    2/6/16: Henderson produced well for Montana. In 2015, he totaled 49 catches for 817 yards with seven touchdowns. His biggest season came in 2013 with 43 receptions for 1,008 yards and 14 touchdowns. An illness caused Henderson to miss the majority of the 2014 season.

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    Demarcus Ayers*, WR, Houston
    Height: 5-11. Weight: 178.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.49.
    Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
    2/6/16: Ayers falls into the category of a good college player who should have returned to school. He totaled 98 catches for 1,222 yards with six touchdowns in 2015. The undersized Ayers would have been better off developing his body before going pro. He was also a 1-year wonder as he produced little as a sophomore (33-335-2) or as a freshman (11-130-1).

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    Daniel Braverman*, WR, Western Michigan
    Height: 5-10. Weight: 177.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.53.
    Projected Round (2015): 7-FA.
    2/6/16: Braverman benefited from teams constantly doubling Corey Davis in 2015 and produced a huge season with 108 receptions for 1,367 yards with 13 touchdowns. He also had quality production as a sophomore (86-997). Braverman probably couldn’t have done better by returning to school, however his body isn’t NFL-ready, so staying in college would have made more sense.

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    K.J. Maye, WR, Minnesota
    Height: 5-8. Weight: 194. Arm: 30.25. Hand: 8.5.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.50.
    Projected Round (2015): 7-FA.
    2/6/16: In 2015, Maye had 73 catches for 773 yards with five touchdowns. He is a smaller receiver and got an invitation to the Senior Bowl where he didn’t stand out. Perhaps being from Mobile, Alabama played into that.

    Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2016WR.php#yhWSYKU60BY1bfB7.99

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    There are those in the building who have soured on Mason and it’s fair to wonder where he fits moving forward.

    You have to figure that’s true.

    What happens next? Trey Watts? Draft another back?

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    Todd Gurley hopes to win the Offensive Rookie of the Year award and talks about participating in the Pro Bowl.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rb-todd-gurley-ready-for-some-hardware-video/

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    One Rams player is coming to L.A. to play football — and replace Kobe

    By Fred Katz

    http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/los-angeles-lakers-st-louis-rams-nfl-nba-kobe-bryant-todd-gurley-coming-to-la-replace-020516

    Kobe Bryant will be joining the St. Louis Rams in the Things We Used to Love in Sports Museum once this NBA season ends. Bryant will be retiring, fading off into the basketball abyss, as the NBA searches for a new face of the league.

    The city of Los Angeles will be looking around for the same. Bryant has been the biggest name in town for years, helping the Lakers to five championships since coming into the NBA in 1996. Now, though, L.A. has the football Rams, who will relocaate from St. Louis next season, and the town’s new running back says he’s hoping to be the most recognizable face in SoCal:

    Los Angeles Rams @RamsNFL
    Gurley tells @SportsCenter: “With @kobebryant retiring, hopefully I can take his spot in LA.”

    Todd Gurley had a superb rookie season with the Rams in St. Louis this past year, leading all first-year players in rushing and getting into the end zone 10 times. He did all that while starting only 12 games. Not bad for a kid who’s still only 21.

    Still, Gurley has a long way to go to surpass what Kobe’s done on the hardwood, and his Rams will have to win a whole lot more in L.A. than they did St. Louis in order for him to get close to Lakers status. After all, the Rams haven’t had a winning season since 2003

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    Gurley: Guys are excited for the move to L.A.

    Running back Todd Gurley shares his thoughts on the Rams relocation to Los Angeles and discusses his rookie season.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Gurley_Guys_are_excited_for_the_move_to_LA/8a6320f6-b345-4069-8447-0917ef25346d

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    Bring him in to compete with Case and Nick.

    Don’t get me in a board war, but, I think CK is actually better than PH was.

    Though I always saw PH as a #2, not a starter.

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    Snead on Foles: he said something I’ve said a lot. Other than one year with Reid, playing with the Rams was the most NF ever played under center in a pro style offense. That could mean he just has to learn it.

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    Some things JT said here he was holding back on a bit before:

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    JT, thanks for the chat. Just wondering if you’re still considering write a book about the ST LOUIS Rams, and if so when do you think we’d see it?
    Thanks
    by JoeChiefsfan 4:34PM

    Yes I am. It’s not foremost on my mind right now. But I am trying to decide if I’ll write a PG version, a tell all, or a tell some.

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    Does John Shaw regret asking for the first tier clause, and does Chip regret selling to Kroenke? Was there any way Chip and Lucia could’ve kept the Rams? I know Mark Davis isn’t exactly swimming in cash.
    by David 4:39PM

    I think Shaw was just trying to protect the franchise. But he’s fond of St. Louis and realizes what the move meant to his career and the Rams _ i.e., the Greatest Show on Turf and Super Bowl XXXIV. In recent years, Shaw hasn’t been much of a fan of Kroenke. As for Chip regretting selling to Kroenke _ I’m not sure. I do know Chip wishes someone from St. Louis would’ve stepped up to attempt to buy the team at the time. He heard nothing but crickets from the StL and had to go to Champaign-Urbana to find Shad Khan.

    .

    Not sure on Barnes. I thought he played better over the second half of the season. I think they’re pretty lukewarm on Zuerlein at this point. I’ve heard they might put the transition tag on Trumaine Johnson, and wonder if that means they feel he’s more sign-able than Janoris Jenkins. I think if push came to shove, they’d sign Hayes over Sims. I kind of wonder about Harkey only in the sense that if they wanted him back _ and he’s a good blocker and leader _ why would he be re-signed already. I mean, it shouldn’t be that tough to re-sign a fullback/blocking tight end.

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    from On brink of retirement, ex-Ram Finnegan gets Carolina call

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/article_eec478fe-0a47-56c4-89a2-8cecc4e9c342.html#.VrS4Lx-Q6Kc.twitter

    When asked if he was surprised about the Rams’ relocation to Los Angeles, Finnegan replied: “Not surprised. I knew it was coming two, three years ago. They had already said it was gonna happen. We knew.”

    Finnegan said the “they” he was referring to was Fisher.

    “He said that two or three years ago,” Finnegan said. “I think that’s the reason he stuck with it because he knew. Because they knew they were gonna make that transition (to Los Angeles).”

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    With veteran group in Denver, coach Gary Kubiak has learned to chill out

    Broncos coach Gary Kubiak was far more controlling when he had same job in Houston

    He had a mini-stroke incident that caused him to re-think how he drove himself

    BY RICK BONNELL

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article58513893.html#storylink=cpy

    Denver Broncos tight end Owen Daniels has worked for coach Gary Kubiak in each of this three NFL stops – Houston, Baltimore and Denver.

    Kubiak stunned Daniels with a speech he gave to the Broncos last spring.

    “At one of the first meetings he said, ‘I want you guys to be you. I want your personality to shine.’ I thought, ‘Wait a second. Who is this guy?’” Daniels recalled.

    Kubiak was a bit of a control freak when he coached the Houston Texans. He had some success but eventually suffered health issues before being fired in 2013. He went on to be the Baltimore Ravens’ offensive coordinator for one season before replacing John Fox as Broncos coach last spring.

    Now he’s coaching Super Bowl 50 and functioning in a very different way than he once did.

    “It was a little bit different in Houston; he was a little more in control. Maybe he had to be,” 10-year NFL veteran Daniels said. “We have such great leadership on this team that we can kind of check ourselves. It’s been a good situation for us.”

    Dream job
    It seems some of this is about how Kubiak changed and some about how his circumstances changed. The mini-stroke he suffered in 2013 on the Texans’ sideline would make anyone pause to reflect. Kubiak would have been happy to continue as a coordinator in Baltimore, but the Broncos were a dream job, coaching the team he played for and working for his former teammate and close friend, Broncos general manager John Elway.

    As a side benefit, Kubiak inherited a veteran team that could police itself.

    “The (primary) leaders stayed the same: 18 (quarterback Peyton Manning), 94 (linebacker DeMarcus Ware) and 58 (linebacker Von Miller). They’ve been the nucleus,” Kubiak said.

    Kubiak empowered those leaders to set the agenda and decide team policy. For instance, when Kubiak was asked about establishing a curfew for Super Bowl week, Kubiak said that was the captains’ call, not his.

    ‘This is your team’
    Ware had never played for Kubiak before this season, but Daniels’ description of his evolution makes sense to him.

    “He doesn’t put his thumb on everybody,” Ware said. “With the veteran guys, he’ll put it on us (to establish discipline). He has said to the more mature guys, ‘This is your team. What do you want to do with it? I’ll give you free reign to do things.’

    “If there’s something we need to do, some kind of scheduling change, we come up with some kind of agreement and you feel good about that.”

    Does this lighter touch have anything to do with the health crisis when he was with the Texans? Not directly, Kubiak said.

    Kubiak suffered a “transient ischemic attack,” often called a mini-stroke.

    “I don’t think it changed me as a person,” Kubiak said. “I think it made me change a little bit as a coach and how I go about things. … (I) kind of ran myself into the ground.”

    Learning to delegate
    So Kubiak learned to delegate, not an easy change for man of his makeup. It helped that Kubiak had a model – Ravens coach John Harbaugh – for a different way to approach the job.

    “I think passing through Baltimore (and) working with a great organization, a great staff there helped me, I’ve taken a lot of that with me here to Denver,” Kubiak said.

    The guy who has played for him at each stop sure notices a shift.

    “I have not heard him yell as much. I don’t know if that’s just him trusting us more, in concert with the health scare he had in Houston,” Daniels said.

    “Sure, we’ve had some meetings on the sidelines that weren’t so fun to be a part of. But he’s so mild-mannered (now). But when we’re not doing our jobs, when we’re not doing what we’re supposed to be doing, he (still) gets fired up and lets us know.”

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    Is Manning in his last rodeo just a physically lesser but more crafty version of Alex Smith?

    My own feeling is that the Rams demolished Manning in 2014, and that Carolina could do the same.

    In which case, he’s a drawback not a plus.

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    Is it just me or is the buzz for this game not that big?

    This is a hogs-head-lasagna thread. Try to
    stay on topic.

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    I’ll take that as a “yes.”

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    Is it just me or is the buzz for this game not that big?

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    Cam Newton represents football’s evolution heading into Super Bowl 50

    By Patrick Saunders

    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_29476884/cam-newton-represents-footballs-evolution-heading-into-super-bowl-50

    SAN JOSE, Calif. — Faster than a pocket quarterback, more powerful than an average linebacker and able to leap defensive lines in a single bound. Cam Newton is the NFL’s man of steel.

    With apologies to Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning, who might be playing the final game of his career Sunday, Newton is the story leading up to Super Bowl 50.

    For many, Newton represents football’s evolution, both as sports and entertainment. The Carolina Panthers’ quarterback is a chiseled 6-foot-5, 250-pound man who throws lasers and plows over defenders. He dances and dabs in the end zone. He speaks his mind. He named his infant son Chosen. He’s a lightning rod of attention.

    Like other trailblazing sports figures such as Joe Namath, Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan, Newton does it all on his terms, like it or not.

    “I guess you’ll have to get used to it, because I don’t plan on changing,” he said. “I know it’s going to sound cliché, but I’m just having fun. It’s been something that I’ve been doing since I was 7 years old and nothing has changed.”

    Yet, for some, Newton represents what’s wrong with contemporary sports. They see arrogance in his actions, and view his end zone gyrations as disrespectful mockery of his opponents. Never mind that part of his routine since 2011 has been handing footballs to kids in the stands after he scores a touchdown.

    Race is also part of how critics view him, at least in Newton’s view.

    “I’m an African-American quarterback. That may scare a lot of people because they haven’t seen nothing that they can compare me to,” he said last week.

    But like him or hate him, there is no denying Newton’s incredible talent. And his charisma, which has been on full display here this week during media conferences.

    “I tell you, he’s just had this incredible year. I mean, no doubt in my mind he’s going to be the MVP,” said the 39-year-old Manning. “What he’s done in the short time being an NFL quarterback, he’s been awesome. It’s the best word I can think of. He’s been a great passer, he’s been a great runner, he’s been a great leader.”

    How awesome? Newton led the NFL during the regular season with 45 total touchdowns (35 passing, 10 rushing), becoming the first player in league history to pass for at least 30 touchdowns and rush for at least 10.

    It’s the merrymaking after the touchdowns that has pushed some people’s buttons.

    Is race a factor when it comes to Cam Newton’s popularity?
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    In November, Rosemary Plorin attended a Tennessee Titans-Panthers game with her 9-year-old daughter and sent the Charlotte Observer a letter she wrote to Newton questioning whether he was setting a good example.

    “Because of where we sat, we had a close-up view of your conduct in the fourth quarter,” she wrote. “The chest puffs. The pelvic thrusts. The arrogant struts and the in-your-face taunting of both the Titans’ players and fans. We saw it all.”

    The letter created a firestorm of controversy, with many saying it was racially motivated. Plorin was vilified on social media.

    Newton responded to the letter by telling Carolina reporters: “Everybody’s entitled to their own opinion. Everyone is. You can’t fault her for that. If she feels offended, I apologize to her, but at the end of the day, I am who I am. It is what it is.”

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    After hearing that, Plorin softened her criticism.

    Earlier this season, former Chicago Bears all-pro linebacker Brian Urlacher fired off a salvo toward Newton.

    “I played defense, so I don’t like it when guys celebrate with dances and stuff,” Urlacher told USA Today. “Who I like the way he celebrates is Peyton (Manning). He kind of gives the guy a handshake and goes back to the sidelines. That’s a great celebration right there. You don’t see him dancing. Even when he gets a first down, he doesn’t do anything.”

    The Broncos, however, don’t seem to object to Newton’s touchdown dances. They just don’t want to give him the chance to do them.

    Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton.
    Quarterback Cam Newton (1) of the Carolina Panther addresses the media during media availability prior to Super Bowl 50 at the San Jose Convention Center on Feb. 3, 2016 in San Jose, Calif. (Thearon W. Henderson, Getty Images)
    “What is my take on celebrations? I love it. I love it,” Broncos linebacker Von Miller said. “Whoever is dancing the most is probably going to win Sunday. I like to dance. I like to show emotion and celebrate with my teammates.

    “Cam is the same way. I love it. I think it is great for the game. You have a younger generation that pays close attention to that, and that is what they follow. That is the future of the sport.”

    Broncos cornerback Aqib Talib said he doesn’t think the fuss over Newton is a racial issue, or even a generational one.

    “Man, it’s fun, I mean, but you guys may have never played,” he told the media crowded around his podium. “But if you ever played, you would get excited, you would see how fun it is. You might want to dance, too.”

    Just five years into his NFL career, Newton has led the Panthers to the Super Bowl for the first time since the 2003 season. He is only one victory shy of writing an impressive chapter in football history. The former Auburn star could become the first quarterback and second player to win a Heisman Trophy, college football national championship, NFL MVP award and Super Bowl.

    He is transforming the way the game is played and the way it’s viewed. And yet Panthers veteran defensive end Jared Allen cautions against labeling Newton as the NFL’s prototype quarterback of the future.

    “Really, how many Cam Newtons are out there?” Allen said. “The versatile offense we run, all of the looks we throw at people, that’s a testament to Cam Newton.”

    As for his place in the spotlight of America’s most popular sport, Newton is ready to soak it all up, so long as it’s done on his terms.

    “Whether I want it or not, the position that I’m in, I’m given a stage and what I do on that stage means a lot,” he said.”For these people that are saying, ‘Hell, I hate Cam,’ I’m going to stay true to who I am and try to fulfill the things that are important to me.”

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    After Super Bowl thrashing by Seahawks, Broncos learned that defense rules

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/after-super-bowl-thrashing-by-the-seahawks-denver-broncos-learned-that-defense-rules/

    SANTA CLARA, Calif. — For the Denver Broncos, all the hope and swagger leading into Super Bowl XLVIII started to slip away on literally the first play. That’s when the snap sailed past Peyton Manning and into the end zone for a safety.

    It went downhill from there — “a perfect storm” of Broncos mistakes and Seahawks domination, recalled guard Louis Vasquez, one of 16 players who experienced that humiliation two years ago and are back for another try.

    What was the Seahawks’ shining moment, a 43-8 Super Bowl victory, became the Broncos’ worst nightmare come to life.

    “As much as we’d like to forget it, it does still leave a sour taste in our mouth,’’ Vasquez said. “Just in that memory and the way we lost, it’s used as a motivational tool for us. We want to come out and flip that script from two years ago and show what we’re about.”

    The ugly memory of Super Bowl XLVIII is a driving force for many Broncos.

    But it doesn’t just provide motivational fodder. Far more important, it reinforced to general manager/legend John Elway the importance of building a transformational defense.

    Wouldn’t you know it — the man known for his golden arm did just that. And now, heading into Sunday’s game against the Carolina Panthers, the Broncos have many of characteristics of the Seahawks team that blew them out of MetLife Stadium.

    In that game, the NFL’s No. 1 defense destroyed the No. 1 offense. The Broncos, you might recall, had scored more points (606) than any team in history, and Manning was at the top of his game. Just two weeks earlier, Manning had thrown for 400 yards and two touchdowns in an AFC title-game win against New England, but Denver’s only touchdown against Seattle came in garbage time.

    Now Carolina is the team with the top-ranked offense in the league, and the en-fuego quarterback in Cam Newton, while the Broncos not only lead in many defensive categories but are being compared (probably prematurely) to the best units in history.

    Sound familiar?

    Elway insists that he already had the philosophical inclination to emphasize defense. His very first draft choice after taking over as GM in 2011 was Von Miller, selected No. 2 overall — right behind Newton. But the Seahawks game spurred him into feverish action.

    “We saw that a great defense could shut down a great offense, and that’s kind of what happened,” he said.

    Two weeks after the Super Bowl, Elway signed pass-rusher extraordinaire DeMarcus Ware, cornerback Aqib Talib and safety T.J. Ward off the free-agent market, all in a 24-hour span. The three contracts totaled $110 million, a small price to pay in pursuit of a defensive vibe like the Seahawks had shown them.

    Elway also added linebacker Brandon Marshall that offseason, and along with the nearly unstoppable Miller, the foundation of a dominating defense was in place. Elway continued to add and refine, but what solidified the whole thing was the hiring of Wade Phillips to replace Jack Del Rio as defensive coordinator — but only after the Bengals luckily refused to allow Vance Joseph to interview.

    Phillips had a history with Broncos coach Gary Kubiak, but he had to win over Elway, which he did, emphatically, in his interview.

    “One thing that stuck with me,” said Elway, “is Wade said, ‘You know, I was a good head coach, I wasn’t great, but I was a good head coach.’ But he says, ‘I’m a great defensive coordinator, and I want to be known as the greatest defensive coordinator ever in this league.’

    “That’s the kind of guy I want. Gary and I agreed on that. He’s taken another step this year to that for what he’s done with the defense.”

    But it will all end in another steaming disappointment if the Broncos don’t finish it off with a victory on Sunday. Elway observed wryly, “We gave up 43 points last time we were in the Super Bowl, so we figured if we can not give up that many points, we’ll be in better shape.”

    It will help that the Broncos will be at full strength. They faced the Seahawks without Miller, defensive back Chris Harris, safety Rahim Moore and defensive end Derek Wolfe, all out with injuries.

    Harris believes the outcome “definitely” would have been different if the Broncos hadn’t been depleted. I don’t think anything was going to stop the Seahawks that day, but the absences were significant.

    “The game changes when you have a guy like me, Von, Derek Wolfe, and even a lot more guys that weren’t there,” he said. “We’re fully intact now, everyone is healthy, ready to go. That right there, just having us all back out there on the field, gives us a better chance.”

    Under Phillips, the Broncos have switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 base, and they swarm the quarterback. The secondary is explosive and intimidating. They led the NFL in total defense and pass defense, while finishing third (behind Seattle, Cincinnati and Kansas City) in scoring defense.

    Whether it will be enough for a victory against the powerful Panthers is an open question. But it should keep a reprise of humiliation at bay.

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    Report: Manziel refused rehab twice in last week

    http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/54646/Report–Manziel-refused-rehab-twice-in-last-week/Default.aspx

    Johnny Manziel’s family is concerned for his well-being, but the NFL quarterback has twice declined to be admitted to area rehabilitation facilities in the last week, according to his father, Paul Manziel.

    “I truly believe if they can’t get him help, he won’t live to see his 24th birthday,” Paul Manziel told Kate Hairopoulos of the Dallas Morning News.

    On Friday, Manziel’s agent Erik Burkhardt also voiced concern for Manziel and announced that he is terminating their professional relationship.

    The family first tried Saturday afternoon to get Manziel, 23, to agree to go to the Enterhealth Ranch addiction facility in Van Alstyne, but he would not stay. That attempt came the day after Manziel’s former girlfriend alleged in a police report that he hit her repeatedly at a Dallas hotel and while driving her home to Fort Worth on Jan. 29. Manziel has not been charged in the incident, but a Fort Worth Police helicopter searched the area for him.

    Paul Manziel said that he tried to have his son admitted Tuesday to Carrollton Springs Hospital, but that Johnny was allowed to leave. Paul Manziel said that he is upset that his son was allowed to walk away after Paul told a Denton County Sheriff officer that he believed Johnny to be suicidal. A public information officer from the Denton County Sheriff’s office said it has no record of Manziel coming into contact with an officer. Carrollton Springs is a 45-bed psychiatric and chemical dependency hospital in Carrollton, providing inpatient and outpatient treatment to adults suffering from mental illness and/or addiction, according to its website.

    Johnny Manziel, who is from Tyler and Kerrville, Texas, has spent the last several weeks in Dallas. The former Texas A&M quarterback and 2012 Heisman Trophy winner has been seen out, including at Wednesday night’s Mavericks game.

    Colleen Crowley, Manziel’s ex-girlfriend, said Manziel acted like he was on drugs but not intoxicated during the Jan. 29 incident, according to the police report.

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    Roger Goodell calls Rams’ return to Los Angeles ‘transformational,’ says league will keep working on Chargers, Raiders

    TODD HARMONSON

    SAN FRANCISCO – NFL commissioner Roger Goodell called the Rams’ return to Los Angeles “transformational” and said the league is determined to help the Chargers and Raiders work on solutions in their current markets during his annual news conference Friday.

    He also insisted the NFL is looking into allegations that Denver Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning received shipments of HGH to his home and stressed the league is focused on players’ safety and conduct.

    And Goodell remained vague on his feelings about the daily fantasy industry, which has come under fire at the state level.

    “I don’t make that determination,” he said about whether daily fantasy is gambling. “Each state makes that determination. We are obviously going to follow the law.”

    Goodell got laughs when he talked about being done with the questions about when Los Angeles will get an NFL team.

    But he was clear that he believes the Rams will have a stadium in Inglewood that will exceed anyone’s expectations and change many things.

    “We believe this will be transformational, not just for the Rams, not just for the Los Angeles community, but for the NFL,” Goodell said.

    While Goodell said the NFL will work with the Chargers and San Diego as well as the Raiders in Oakland, he also acknowledged the Chargers have a big decision to make.

    They announced that they will play the 2016 season in San Diego while they try to work on a solution there, but they have a deal in place with Rams owner Stan Kroenke to join the team in Los Angeles and later Inglewood.

    “I think it’s great that Dean Spanos and his family said they want to make this work in San Diego,” Goodell said. “They have an incredibly attractive option in Los Angeles.”

    He said that the league’s owners made a strong statement about the adequacy of facilities in St. Louis, Oakland and San Diego when it approved the Rams, Raiders and Chargers for relocation.

    “Clearly, the 32 clubs made that judgment,” he said.

    Goodell said player safety and getting better as a league are keys for the NFL. He also announced that the NFL will return to Mexico for a regular season game Nov. 21 between the Raiders and Houston Texans.

    In the Manning case, he said the league is working with the other league’s involved and the World Anti-Doping Agency but has not launched an independent investigation.

    “We take every allegation of violations very seriously,” he said.

    Goodell, however, refused to take a firm stance on daily fantasy sports. Instead, he talked about how the league will follow the law and more consumer protection is needed.

    “For our longterm growth, fantasy football is more than daily fantasy,” he said.

    More to come on this story

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    From Wikipedia:

    Murray is a fan of several Chicago professional sports teams, especially the Chicago Cubs, Chicago Bears and the Chicago Bulls.[48] (He was once a guest color commentator for a Cubs game during the 1980s.)[49] Murray is an avid Quinnipiac University basketball fan, where his son served as head of basketball operations. Murray is a regular fixture at home games. He cheered courtside for the Illinois Fighting Illini’s game against the 2004-05 Arizona Wildcats in the Regional Final game in Chicago. He is a fixture at home games of those teams when in his native Chicago. After traveling to Florida during the Cubs playoff run to help “inspire” the team (Murray joked with Cubs slugger Aramis Ramírez he was very ill and needed two home runs to give him the hope to live),[50] he was invited to the champagne party in the Cubs’ clubhouse when the team clinched the NL Central in late September 2007, along with fellow actors John Cusack, Bernie Mac, James Belushi, and former Cubs player Ron Santo. Murray appears in Santo’s documentary, This Old Cub. In 2006, Murray became the sixth recipient of Baseball Reliquary’s annual Hilda Award,[51] established in 2001 “to recognize distinguished service to the game by a fan.”

    In other words, among its other errors, the article wrongly asserted that Murray is a Jagz fan.

    It’s like assuming Zooey is a Rams fan.

    Misleading.

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    zn was born in Heaven but was cast out and after a few millennia in Hell moved to Maine yet he is a Rams fan.

    Can we keep the personal stuff out of this?

    Some things are said in confidence and not meant to “go public.”

    Thanks.

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    Johnny Manziel’s Agent Parts Ways with QB: Latest Comments, Reaction

    More along these lines.

    http://hosted.stats.com/fb/story.asp?i=20160205111500507863308

    Johnny Manziel’s father worried quarterback self-destructing

    By TOM WITHERS
    AP Sports Writer

    http://wtop.com/nfl/2016/02/manziels-agent-drops-quarterback-after-police-inquiries/

    CLEVELAND (AP) With Johnny Manziel’s professional career in doubt and his personal life crumbling, his father fears for his safety.

    The troubled quarterback was under investigation by two police departments following allegations that he hit his former girlfriend last weekend in Texas. Manziel will be released by the Cleveland Browns next month after two tumultuous seasons.

    “I truly believe if they can’t get him help, he won’t live to see his 24th birthday,” Paul Manziel told The Dallas Morning News.

    Manziel’s father said the family has made two unsuccessful attempts in the past week to get the player into a rehab clinic.

    Manziel agreed to go to the Enterhealth Ranch addiction facility in Van Alstyne, Texas, but he would not stay, Paul Manziel told the Morning News. He tried to have his son admitted Tuesday to Carrollton Springs Hospital, but Manziel was allowed to leave. Paul Manziel said he told a Denton County Sheriff officer he believed his son to be suicidal.

    Paul Manziel did not immediately return a phone message left by The Associated Press.

    The 2012 Heisman Trophy winner, who entered the NFL with a party-boy reputation, spent 73 days last winter in a Pennsylvania treatment center specializing in care for alcohol and drug dependency.

    The disturbing portrait of Manziel comes as his agent dropped the 23-year-old quarterback as a client Friday.

    Erik Burkhardt said that with “deep regret” he has ended the business relationship. He added that he made his decision after “several emotional and very personal discussions with his family, his doctors, and my client himself.”

    “Though I will remain a friend and Johnny supporter, and he knows I have worked tirelessly to arrange a number of professional options for him to continue to pursue, it has become painfully obvious that his future rests solely in his own hands,” the agent said in a statement.

    “His family and I have gone to great lengths to outline the steps we feel he must take to get his life in order. Accountability is the foundation of any relationship, and without it the function of my work is counterproductive. I truly wish the best for Johnny and sincerely hope he can, and will, find the kind of peace and happiness he deserves.”

    Manziel was under police investigation for allegedly hitting ex-girlfriend Colleen Crowley. She told police the former Texas A&M star struck her “several times” at a Dallas hotel and later when they drove back to her apartment in Fort Worth. The police departments in both cities said Thursday their investigations are closed.

    Burkhardt isn’t the first to cut business ties with Manziel. LeBron James’ marketing agency ended its association with him last month. The Cleveland Cavaliers star did not want to discuss Manziel following a morning shootaround.

    “I’ve already voiced my opinion on his situation,” James said. “I’m not going to do it again. I think that’s the last thing I need to be talking about is his incidents. That doesn’t make it any better. I wasn’t there. I don’t know what happened, so who am I to say he was right or he was wrong? I wasn’t there.”

    On Tuesday, the Browns released a strong statement in which the team indicated it will release Manziel as early as March 9, when the league begins its new calendar year.

    Also, the league is looking into whether Manziel violated its personal-conduct policy. League spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday the inquiry is “ongoing.” Manziel was cleared of any wrongdoing last year after he and Crowley got into a heated roadside argument near the player’s home.

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    Johnny Manziel’s Agent Parts Ways with QB: Latest Comments, Reaction

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    Johnny Manziel's Agent Parts Ways with QB: Latest Comments, Reaction

    rik Burkhardt, who served as the agent for Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel, announced Friday he’s ending his professional relationship with the 23-year-old amid Manziel’s continued off-field issues.

    Adam Schefter of ESPN.com first reported the news. Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk passed along the full statement from Burkhardt:

    It is with deep regret that, after several emotional and very personal discussions with his family, his doctors, and my client himself, I have made the decision to terminate my professional relationship with Johnny Manziel. Though I will remain a friend and Johnny supporter, and he knows I have worked tirelessly to arrange a number of professional options for him to continue to pursue, it has become painfully obvious that his future rests solely in his own hands. His family and I have gone to great lengths to outline the steps we feel he must take to get his life in order. Accountability is the foundation of any relationship, and without it the function of my work is counterproductive. I truly wish the best for Johnny and sincerely hope he can, and will, find the kind of peace and happiness he deserves.

    The decision comes after the latest alleged incident between Manziel and ex-girlfriend Colleen Crowley.

    Rebecca Lopez of WFAA News 8 reported Thursday that Crowley claims the NFL player struck her and told her “shut up or I’ll kill us both” during an encounter last week.

    Manziel denied those allegations to TMZ Sports. Tom Withers of the Associated Press noted both Texas police departments involved in the investigation closed the case of possible assault without filing charges.

    The quarterback has dealt with a long line of off-field problems since the Browns drafted him in the first round in 2014. Pat McManamon of ESPN.com (via Will Brinson of CBSSports.com) noted the team is likely to release him once the new league year begins next month.

    Manziel has failed to make much of an impression on the field for Cleveland. He’s appeared in 14 games over his first two seasons and accumulated a lackluster 74.4 passer rating with seven passing touchdowns and seven interceptions.

    The former Heisman Trophy winner has always sported the necessary talent to have success. The questions surround his dedication when it comes to playing the sport’s most important position. His inability to stay out of the negative spotlight is obviously a worrisome trend.

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    Party’s over for many St. Louis Rams employees

    Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/party-s-over-for-many-st-louis-rams-employees/article_e35120d2-b376-5fe2-819b-df6ac4c8a8a2.html

    There aren’t nearly as many cars in the parking lot these days at Rams Park.

    If you’re in marketing and sales, for example, you really don’t have a function because there’s no longer anything to market and sell for the Rams — at least not in St. Louis.

    Since the NFL approved the relocation of the Rams to Los Angeles three weeks ago, change is afoot at the team’s Earth City headquarters. Each day, more and more desks are cleaned out. Packing is well underway.

    Even in the media workroom, large blue plastic containers are stacked in one corner, labeled and filled with files, photos, decades worth of box scores, anything and everything that an NFL media relations office would need.

    The Rams have until April 1 to be out of the building, which they have occupied since 1996 — the team’s second season in St. Louis — and have rented for $25,000 a year from the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority.

    No one knows exactly where those containers — or anything else — are going because the Rams have yet to decide where it will set up headquarters in the Los Angeles area.

    Players anxious to find places to stay in California are being told to be patient and wait a little longer. The last thing a player needs is a condo or home located far from the practice facility — which would mean a long commute in the notorious L.A. traffic.

    So even with the move approved, there’s still uncertainty, not to mention heartache and stress for many rank-and-file team employees. Not counting players, coaches, and those in the scouting/personnel department, there are about 100 team employees.

    Since the league’s relocation vote Jan. 12, about half of those 100 employees have been told they are being invited to accompany the team to Los Angeles. The other half? Well, they’re not making the travel squad.

    Those told they’re not coming with the team are being offered two months termination pay, six months severance pay, plus one week of additional pay for each year of employment with the team. So an employee who was with the Rams for, say, 15 years and is not accompanying the team to Los Angeles could walk away with nearly a year’s worth of pay. The team also is providing a placement service for employees not going to L.A., offering interviewing and résumé tips, as well as networking opportunities.

    But that doesn’t ease the pain for many.

    “It’s tough. A lot of friends, a lot of goodbyes,” said one team employee speaking on condition of anonymity. “Worst thing I’ve ever been through.”

    Some longtime employees have been invited to L.A. but have established roots in St. Louis and simply don’t want to go. Some can’t leave because of family considerations. For others, including many who are single and early in their careers, it’s just the opposite. For them, Los Angeles represents a new adventure.

    This picture of the final days at Rams Park emerged from interviews with several employees. But none felt comfortable speaking on the record — they don’t want to jeopardize a severance package or a job offer with the Rams in L.A.

    Rams executive vice president Kevin Demoff declined to be interviewed for this story.

    Obviously, the prospect of a move to L.A. has been out there for a couple of years, but still, the league’s decision seemed sudden — and so final — for many. The first couple of weeks after the relocation vote were particularly tough, including some tearful farewells among co-workers.

    “I wish (Demoff) was around to see and feel the pain in this building,” said another team employee just days after the move was approved.

    Demoff has spent a lot of time in Los Angeles since the 30-2 relocation vote, and he wasn’t in the building the first few days after Jan. 12.

    To a large degree, those in ticketing, marketing, sales and accounting are not making the trek to Los Angeles. The Rams’ ticket office at the Edward Jones Dome was emptied and closed about a week after the relocation vote.

    Most of the team’s athletic trainers, equipment staff, and those in the Rams Broadcast Network are going. It looks like most of the media relations staff also is heading to Los Angeles.

    It’s highly unlikely that any of the team physicians, who are affiliated with Washington University and Barnes-Jewish Hospital, are following the team west. Basically, they have well-established practices in St. Louis apart from the football team.

    Those doctors are expected to stay on with the team through the NFL Scouting Combine this month, the recheck combine in April, and then the draft before the Rams start fresh with a new set of physicians in Los Angeles.

    Although everyone at Rams Park knows whether they’ve been invited or not to join the team in L.A., one unknown remains: any cost of living adjustment for those invited to the more expensive West Coast.

    Will it be a flat rate, or amount, to all employees? Or will it vary from employee to employee or by job title? If the numbers aren’t right, even more employees have indicated they will stay in St. Louis.

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    The rush of Deacon Jones and the rush of watching him

    http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2013/06/of_the_rush_of_deacon_jones_an.html

    The first time Dick Vermeil got an up-close look at Deacon Jones, he was a fuzzy 32-year-old assistant coach freshly hired from Stanford by George Allen to the newly minted position of “special teams coach” with the Los Angeles Rams. He watched with some fascination during his first NFL training camp in 1969 as immense 290-pound offensive tackle Bob “The Boomer” Brown, newly acquired from the Eagles and smack in the prime of a Hall of Fame career that included six Pro Bowls, squared off against Jones. It was hotly anticipated around camp as something of a showdown of Japanese horror movie monsters. Except, as Vermeil tells it, it would’ve made for a very short film:

    “Bob Brown couldn’t block him. Could not block him.”

    It’s not hard to imagine the rivalry component of the all-business Brown getting frustrated with the boisterous and easygoing Jones beating him and talking about it afterward.

    But then Jones beat everybody. He was the best. He created the term “sack” more than a decade before it even became an official statistic. And then it took historians poring back through NFL Films archives to attempt to count up all the sacks the man who coined the word would have recorded. They came up with 26 in 1967 and 24 in 1968. These in 14-game seasons. Just for comparison’s sake, Michael Strahan holds the official NFL record with 22½ in 2001 over 16 games.

    I spoke to Vermeil this afternoon and he still sounds amazed in recall:

    “I don’t know what David Jones’ overall top speed was. But his explosive acceleration was his asset. His first step, with his long arms and the long reach that he had. And then his ability to contort his body and run low to the ground and reach. It just made him very, very difficult to block.”

    Vermeil is now 76 and semi-retired living in Chester County. He accomplished nearly everything a coach could, named to the profession’s highest honors at the high school, college and pro levels, winning a Rose Bowl and a Super Bowl as a head coach.

    Remember that Vermeil won his Lombardi Trophy a mere 13 years ago. He was on the sideline well after the game transitioned to warp speed in open space. It’s a given that most players of the 1960s simply could not keep up with the size and speed of today. But could Jones have?

    “Oh, there’s no question.”

    There are caveats, Vermeil said:

    “It’s not the same game. It’s a much more wide-open game. And the ratio of run to pass is so much more on the pass side than it was in 1969 when Deacon was playing like hell.

    “But he played the run extremely well, too. And I’d say if they’d have passed more, he’d have sacked more.

    “The thing that would hurt him a little in today’s rules is what’s allowed in pass protection. Now the offensive linemen use the arms and extend the hands where in the old days that was, technically, against the rules.”

    As today is the head slap Jones used to such great effect on his first step to make tackles flinch and lose balance. Now, it’ll get you 15 yards or worse.

    Which brings us back to an era of football that never can – and should not be – revisited. Not that I can deny its attraction. Seeing quarterbacks sacked from the blind side by speed-rushing defensive ends was one of the visceral dirty pleasures of the 1960s and ’70s. NFL rules were rightly enacted beginning in the ’80s to protect the most important and valuable players in the game and have kept favoring the offense ever since.

    Now, it’s just not the same being a defensive lineman. No nicknames for front fours. No 7-step drops and languid pauses taken by pocket quarterbacks.

    As Vermeil said, it’s just a different game. Which is why nothing like Deacon Jones can ever quite be seen again.

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    2 or 3 interesting reveals in there.

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    Aaron Donald, Rams

    Rams DT Aaron Donald dishes on his first two seasons in the NFL, attention he receives off the field, the teammate who eats the most and how he compares with J.J. Watt.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14714877

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    Rick Venturi on key matchups that could decide Super Bowl 50

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    From @rlopezwfaa: Johnny Manziel’s ex-girlfriend says he hit her, dragged her by the hair, threatened to kill her.

    Manziel’s Ex Says He Hit Her Several Times During Recent Altercation: Police

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Police-Johnny-Manziel-Questioned-Over-Altercation-With-Girlfriend-367094561.html

    ort Worth police have released a report about the incident involving Johnny Manziel and his ex-girlfriend that occurred last weekend.
    Officers were called to investigate the altercation between the two early in the morning on last Saturday.
    In the report released on Feb. 4, Manziel’s ex-girlfriend, Colleen Crowley, told police she met up with Manziel on Friday, Jan. 29 at Hotel Zaza in Uptown Dallas. She told them Manziel acted as if he were on some kind of drugs, but said he wasn’t intoxicated.
    Crowley told police Manziel struck her several times, including a strike to her left ear. She said she and Manziel left the hotel and got in her vehicle. Crowley said Manziel told her he was going to drive her to her Fort Worth home because he didn’t want her to drive while intoxicated.
    Crowley told officers Manziel shouted angrily and hit her several more times during the drive from Dallas to Fort Worth.
    Once at her apartment, Crowley ran to a neighbor’s house and Manziel left the area.
    According to Fort Worth police corporal Tracey Knight, officers did not arrest Manziel, but “an information report was completed regarding an altercation between Manziel and his girlfriend.”
    NBC 5 has reached out to Manziel and his representatives for comment, but have not heard back yet.

    Initial Incident Statement From Fort Worth Police:
    On Saturday afternoon, Knight released the following statement about the incident:
    “At approximately 2 a.m. on January 30, 2016, patrol officers were dispatched to 2101 Park Hill Drive (The Berkeley Apartments) in reference to a report of a possible assault.
    Upon arrival, officers did not locate the caller, but did make contact with a 23 year old female who stated that she was involved in a disturbance with her ex-boyfriend (23 year old male suspect) earlier in the evening in Dallas. The preliminary investigation determined that a possible assault had occurred in that jurisdiction or multiple jurisdictions. The complainant was uncooperative with officers on scene, and they were unable to locate a crime scene within the Fort Worth jurisdiction, however, our officers prepared a report nonetheless, and that information was forwarded to detectives for further investigation.
    The Dallas Police Department was notified of a possible disturbance, so any questions regarding their jurisdiction should be submitted to DPD.
    The complainant also advised our officers of concerns that she had regarding the well-being of her ex-boyfriend. In an effort to follow-up on this, Fort Worth officers attempted to locate him, by calling cell phone numbers associated with him, checking locations within our jurisdiction, and searching the area with the assistance of our Air One Unit. It was later determined by officers that the ex-boyfriend was safe and in no danger. The Fort Worth Police Department is actively working with Dallas PD to determine if a criminal offense occurred.”
    While the report does not mention Manziel by name, the Fort Worth Police Department’s tweet about the incident does:

    Manziel’s Recent Behavior in North Texas
    Manziel has been seen with friends in Dallas in recent weeks.
    On January 20, Manziel was at Trees, a club in Deep Ellum, with Mavericks forward Chandler Parsons, Stars center Tyler Seguin, and Mets pitcher Noah Syndergaard attending a Mike Stud concert.
    “Originally there was only suppose to be eight people, but it ended up being 20 to 25 people who were coming and going,” said Trees bouncer Chris Dias. “Everyone was just being cool up there and enjoying themselves. There were no issues when he (Manziel) was here.”
    The NFL and the Cleveland Browns are aware of the situation. The league says it’s looking into it.
    The Dallas Police Department said it has been notified by the Fort Worth Police Department of a possible offense that may have occurred within the Dallas city limits. According to Sr. Cpl. Tramese Andrews Dallas police are in the preliminary stages of the investigation and have no further information.

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