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znModeratorApril 13, 2016 at 11:47 pm in reply to: Jon Gruden's QB Camp w/ Case Keenum 2012 (has morphed into "the keenum thread") #41846
znModeratorfrom A look back at why Case Keenum went undrafted
Dane Brugler
October 18, 2013
Why did Keenum go undrafted? Below average size (6-1, 208), average-at-best arm strength and limited mobility to do much with his legs. His ball appears to flutter, especially when he doesn’t have a chance to wind up and step into his throws. Keenum holds several NCAA passing records, but those numbers came in an offense that inflated his statistics and allowed him to take advantage of a quick passing attack where he didn’t need to make extensive pocket reads. He wasn’t asked to consistently make NFL throws as the Cougars quarterback and at the end of the day, his lack of ideal physical tools were enough for teams to pass.
So why should Texans’ fans be encouraged with Keenum at the helm of the offense? He’s resilient, tough and very smart — all qualities that cannot be measured by a scale or 40 time. Keenum makes quick decisions with astute pre-snap reads to have a clear understanding of what the defense is doing and where to distribute the football. He has a natural feel for the field and pocket with good passing vision despite his stature that is a shade under 6-foot-1. A mature, determined individual, Keenum is the son of a coach and has battled through multiple injuries, including an ACL tear in 2010 that ended his season.
If you compare Keenum to other quarterbacks in the NFL, he won’t match-up because his physical tools just aren’t up-to-par. But his resolve and heart are why he’s still collecting a NFL paycheck and why he will start and play in his first professional game on Sunday.
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from Case Keenum
Gil Brandt
Nov. 6, 2013
. The elder Keenum — a longtime coach himself — describes his son as a competitive football junkie who has been a quick learner from an early age. While he might not look the part of an NFL quarterback — he’s not thick like Drew Brees or Steve Young — Keenum has the skills and football know-how to succeed as a pro.
Keenum is a system-type quarterback who is perfect for the play-action passes and rollouts that the Texans like to use. He’s athletic, has great ball-handling skills and really knows how to execute the play-fake. Thus, it’s easy to see him being successful in Houston. After all, his head coach, Gary Kubiak, put together a solid nine-year career as John Elway’s backup in Denver, and he had many of the same traits.
I’ve always valued a player’s ability to produce, plain and simple. Keenum definitely has a history of production, from high school (he led Wylie High in Abilene, Texas, to the state quarterfinals) to college (at the University of Houston, he threw for 19,217 yards and recorded a touchdown-to-interception ratio of 48:5 as a senior). He has good feet and a quick release, and he is very accurate, completing more than 70 percent of his passes in two different collegiate campaigns with the Cougars.
In September 2011, I went with Highland Park (Dallas) coach Randy Allen, who has worked with Keenum’s father, to watch Keenum play against North Texas, and the youngster did something that caught my attention during pregame warmups. While most quarterbacks start off throwing with the wind at their back, Keenum went the other way, throwing into the wind. In that game, Keenum showed that, while he might not have Matthew Stafford-type arm strength, he is strong enough to get the ball 55 yards downfield.
Keenum made good on that ability Sunday night against the Indianapolis Colts. On the third offensive play of the game, Keenum connected with Andre Johnson on a 62-yard scoring strike. By the end of the first half, Keenum had racked up 208 yards and three touchdown passes.
If Keenum had to play in a different system (say, one that does not lean as heavily on the play-action pass) or in a different setting (like outdoors in Cleveland, where inclement weather can make it tricky for a guy like him to spin the ball well), he might not be as effective. But he doesn’t have to worry about that, because he’s in exactly the right place with the exact right team.
In fact, given Keenum’s suitability for Houston’s offense and sharp football sense, I think the second-year pro gives the Texans a better chance to win than Schaub. Keenum just knows when and where to throw it and when to hold on to the ball. He’s more of a “win the game for you” quarterback than Schaub. I’d also imagine that, as an underdog who’s had to scrap to get to where he is, Keenum has gained the respect of the locker room.
April 13, 2016 at 11:32 pm in reply to: Gordon & Manziel…& more Manziel…the official staring at the car wreck thread #41845
znModeratorDrew Rosenhaus terminates contract with Johnny Manziel, will reconsider if QB gets treatment
Johnny Manziel’s second agent this offseason, Drew Rosenhaus, has informed the former Cleveland Browns quarterback that either he gets treatment or Rosenhaus no longer will represent him.
“I have terminated the standard representation with Johnny Manziel in the hopes of helping him get the treatment I believe he needs,” Rosenhaus told ESPN’s Adam Schefter. “I have informed him that if he takes the immediate steps I have outlined for him that I will rescind the termination and continue to represent him. Otherwise the termination will become permanent. There is a five-day window for me to rescind the termination. I’m hoping he takes the necessary steps to get his life back on track.”
Rosenhaus said from the beginning his agreement with Manziel was contingent upon the QB entering a treatment facility, which he has persistently refused to do.
“I wasn’t walking into an easy situation, but it has descended,” Rosenhaus told SiriusXM NFL Radio on Wednesday night. “It has consistently gotten worse. Quite honestly, one of things I talked to him about from Day 1 … was to get back to getting help, so that the reasons he was released by the Browns would be in the past and that he could move forward with his life as positive member of society and take advantage of all the gifts that he has. … The world can be his. But obviously in many respects he needs guidance right now, he needs help, and needs to gain control of his life again. And obviously before he can even think about football, he’s got to do those things.
“Right now I believe for him to have chance to have a successful life — forget football for a moment — I think it’s imperative for him to get help. I’m taking a stand here purely to help this man. I got involved with the idea that I’d be able to make a difference and l’m really grasping at straws. This is the last thing I can do.”
Rosenhaus never has fired a player in 27 years as an NFL agent, according to ESPN’s Ed Werder.
Manziel told TMZ last week that he had been out in West Hollywood five to six nights in a row and said he doesn’t think NFL teams have a problem with his partying.
“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with partying, bro,” Manziel said to TMZ. “There’s a difference between partying and being out of control.”
Manziel was the 22nd overall selection by the Browns in 2014, their second of two first-round draft picks that year. But his two seasons in Cleveland were marred by off-the-field struggles and limited on-the-field success, and he was waived by the team March 11.
Manziel spent 10 weeks in rehab after his rookie season and is the subject of a grand jury investigation in Dallas into whether he assaulted his former girlfriend. The NFL is investigating whether Manziel violated the personal conduct policy in that incident.
Since he spent the weekend of the Browns’ season finale in Las Vegas, Manziel has made regular appearances on social media from locales that include Miami, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
“This is a life-or-death situation,” Rosenhaus said on SiriusXM. “I’m not talking about football anymore. I’m talking about a young man who is in trouble., And at end of day, I have a responsibility. I’m not going to see him go down in flames with me as his agent. He’s either going to have to take necessary steps to get his life back o track or he’s going to have to find someone else to stand by and watch him injure himself. It won’t be me.”
Information from ESPN’s Pat McManamon was used in this report.
April 13, 2016 at 10:16 pm in reply to: Gordon & Manziel…& more Manziel…the official staring at the car wreck thread #41844
znModeratorfrom off the net
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bubbaramfan
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More bad news for “Party Johnny”, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, fired him today. That’s the second agent to let him go.
source, ESPN.com
April 13, 2016 at 8:44 pm in reply to: informal poll–for or against trading up? trading down? staying put? #41842
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Browns set on taking Goff at Two
Just heard that on Sirius… This the season of misinformation and I think that’s exactly what it is…trying to pump up their trade market.
znModeratorIn fact, the new work confirms that the mass of the stuff around us is due only in very small part to the masses of quarks themselves. Most of it comes from the way they interact inside baryons. “Ninety-nine per cent of the mass of the proton and neutron, and therefore the visible Universe, is QCD binding energy,” says Davies. “The Higgs then just explains the 1% of it that comes from quark masses.” All the same, she adds, where that last per cent comes from is still “a very important fundamental question”.
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081120/full/news.2008.1246.html
znModeratorThere is a bit of uncertainty as to who is running the offense in LA. Rob Boras was promoted to having a bigger role in the offense, but there is no clear cut “guy” running the offense.
Not true. Boras is running the offense.
Having a “passing coordinator” who is subordinate to a full-fledged offensive coordinator is not a rare thing in the league.
znModeratorWHY PAXTON LYNCH IS THE PERFECT INGREDIENT FOR THE RAMS REBUILDING OFFENSE
Eric Galko
Eric Galko is the owner and director of scouting at Optimum Scouting and OptimumScouting.com, as well as a Sporting News contributor. Follow him on Twitter: @OptimumScouting
Big media and a number of NFL teams have fallen in love with the likes of Jared Goff and Carson Wentz. There is reason to believe both of them are quality quarterbacks, but the best quarterback in the class is Paxton Lynch. For whatever reason, he is not getting the same attention as the other two “top” quarterbacks in the class.
The Los Angeles Rams just settled in their new city and are in dire need of a full rebuild. Head coach Jeff Fisher was given an extension and a shining opportunity to turn the team around. The problem, for now, is that they lack a quarterback. The Nick Foles signing from a year ago turned out to be a disaster. Lynch, albeit the top passer in the class, may take a bit of a tumble through the first round because of the infatuation with other quarterbacks. For the Rams, this would be a godsend.
There is a bit of uncertainty as to who is running the offense in LA. Rob Boras was promoted to having a bigger role in the offense, but there is no clear cut “guy” running the offense. With that being said, Lynch’s projection as a Ram has to be more about how this staff could use Lynch based on what he did at Memphis, not necessarily based on what the Rams did last season.
Many are concerned with how well he will handle the transition from Memphis’s spread attack to a more nuanced pro game, but there is little reason to fret. After all, Marcus Mariota had a very good rookie season with the Tennessee Titans. Robert Griffin III had an outstanding rookie season a few years prior, as well. There are plenty of success stories for spread quarterbacks and there is a blueprint on how to make an offense work for them.
Of course, the Rams can not entirely replicate what Lynch did at Memphis, but there are a handful of concepts they can sprinkle in or adjust to make Lynch comfortable. At Memphis, Lynch threw a lot of quick screens, slants and go-routes. The Oakland Raiders ran a lot of these concepts during Derek Carr’s rookie year to help him adjust from a similar offense to Memphis’, and Carr has shown that he is progressing into a good pro quarterback. The offense may largely consist of these concepts for Lynch, too, but there is one major difference between he and Carr that will allow the Rams to open up the playbook earlier.
Carr was not necessarily scared of pressure, per say, but he was used to playing being a horrendous line at Fresno State. Memphis did not have an outstanding line, but they gave Lynch more freedom than Carr had and Lynch consistently showed that he was not phased by pressure. With Lynch’s poise to add on top of his acute mental ability (he only threw 4 interceptions his final year), the Rams would have more freedom to open up the playbook and let him “figure it out” because he has all the ability to do.
Lynch falls more into the archetype that likes to feel when a play is open and make the adjustment on the fly to complete the pass, but has no qualms working through the construct of the system. He can hit timing routes well over any area of the field just as well as he can break the pocket and make a play.
The key for Lynch is opening up the field. There are a lot of ways to do this. Lynch is an athlete and that helps open up two things: run concepts with the quarterback involved and rollouts.


The Rams have to use Lynch’s athleticism to their advantage and these are two prime examples of how to do so. The first of two plays is a read-option look. There is not much to decipher there on than that Lynch has the intelligence to know when to keep versus pull the ball and run himself, as well as his ability as a runner.
The second of the two plays, however, showcases a lot of Lynch’s talents. For one, he is very comfortable rolling either way and it is even more impressive that he rolled left on this play. The play breaks down a little bit, though. Lynch was looking for a front side throw, as he should have been, but saw that those options were covered. Without any hesitation or panic, Lynch resets his body to throw back the other way and rifles in a throw that his receiver ended up converting into a first down. The play is not only a testament to his ability to operate well on the move, but also a testament to his ability to adjust quickly and make a play.

Lynch needs to be allowed to attack down the field, too. He has a good arm that can find that sweet blend between velocity and arc, especially when throwing down the sideline. Though, Lynch’s ability as a deep passer stretches beyond simply his placement. He has a great understanding of when to attack and when to look for a different option. He is not passive, but he is also not reckless. There has been only a handful of passers in the past few draft classes that have the same grasp on calculated risks that Lynch does.
It’s hard to pin any quarterback as a definite fit for the Rams because of the uncertainty of the offense. Paxton Lynch does not have many glaring flaws, though, leaving the offense to be moldable. The concepts above are what fit him best, but he is largely without flaw. That is not to say he is an elite prospect, but considering he can do everything at least at a baseline level, it’s hard to imagine any offense hindering him. Lynch would give the Rams a lot of freedom with their offense- a perfect ingredient for rebuilding an offense.
znModeratorSiriusXM NFL Radio
Les Snead: QB Case Keenum is our starter right now.
znModeratorTMZ is reporting the Rams’ backup running back has had a warrant issued after failing to appear in court for a March incident.
What the hell has gotten into this kid?
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znModeratorI am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs
Is that an elected position, or inherited for life?
If elected, what are the primaries like?
Brutal, I would imagine.
Its an elected position. And I’ve lost
fifty-two primaries in a row.
But I have all the Super-Delegates
so I am in like flynn.w
vSo…given that, it’s inherited for life.
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znModeratorI am not a sherlock holmes fan (dont like mysteries
in general) but i have enjoyed Cumberbatch
in his bbc Holmes series. He’s got
some sort of “it” factor i cant quite
articulate.w
vHe;s good in The Imitation Game.
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znModeratorI am in charge of tasering tsars and tapirs
Is that an elected position, or inherited for life?
If elected, what are the primaries like?
Brutal, I would imagine.
znModeratorI can’t believe that Snead just declared Keenum as the Rams starting QB for the next 15 years.
I assume you’re joking?
Cause there are some who did take the initial announcement that way.
znModeratorYour Mass is NOT From the Higgs Boson
You know, back in the last year or 2 of the old huddle board, I wrote something about that.
Mass in a proton is bound energy from quark/gluon interactions. That’s where most of our mass comes from.
It’s a dense concept but interesting.
znModeratorThe girl is hobbling around on a walker and doing just fine.
So…everything looks like smooth sailing.
April 12, 2016 at 10:02 pm in reply to: Snead says team will be prepared to move up or back in draft #41810
znModeratorhe next team in the draft order with a clear quarterback need is San Francisco at No. 7. That means the Baltimore Ravens, the owner of the sixth pick, would be a more reasonable trade partner. Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley explored Baltimore’s options for such a move on Monday.
What I hear around is that Balt. might be interested in one of the top OTs.
znModerator#Rams GM Les Snead: Just normal pre-draft preparation going on with Top 30 visits & we had a free agent here yesterday with @DonteWhitner.
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) April 12, 2016
Snead on LA relocaton: The transition has been smooth because of hard work by people in organization. My office is still in boxes.
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) April 12, 2016
Les Snead on @DonteWhitner : Nothing new right now & we had a good visit with him. He is a vet who could help out younger players. #Rams
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) April 12, 2016
Snead on Hard Knocks: With technology today it's less intrusive than it used to be. Going to work w/them to produce good content. #Rams
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) April 12, 2016
#Rams GM Les Snead: Keenum will take the 1st snap in OTA's. Mannion/Foles will compete. Nothing will be settled until we get thru draft.
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) April 12, 2016
April 12, 2016 at 9:41 pm in reply to: Snead says team will be prepared to move up or back in draft #41805
znModeratorCould Baltimore be ideal trade spot for Rams to get a quarterback?
Nick Wagoner
The speculation about the Los Angeles Rams trading up to get their franchise quarterback is steadily heading toward a crescendo as we draw closer to the NFL draft at the end of the month.
Because of the Rams’ obvious need at quarterback, they have been connected to deals all the way up to the Tennessee Titans and the first overall pick. That would be an awfully long road to travel from their current pick at No. 15 to get to the top spot for their pick of quarterbacks. And it would undoubtedly cost a lot in terms of compensation.
In fact, ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay (rightfully) views it as just too far for a team to move up, especially in a draft where none of the top quarterback prospects appear to be ready to step in right away.
So what would be a reasonable spot to move up to land North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz or Cal’s Jared Goff? Logic says the Cleveland Browns will probably take one of them with the second pick, which means the chances of the other slipping to No. 15 isn’t good.
But the next team in the draft order with a clear quarterback need is San Francisco at No. 7. That means the Baltimore Ravens, the owner of the sixth pick, would be a more reasonable trade partner. Ravens reporter Jamison Hensley explored Baltimore’s options for such a move on Monday.
I’m still not entirely convinced the Rams like any of the quarterbacks enough to pay the freight to make a bold move up but there’s no doubting that Baltimore is a far more logical (and reasonably priced) alternative to trying to move all the way to the top of the board.
znModeratorhttp://www.si.com/nfl/2016/03/30/nfl-mock-draft-2016-quarterbacks-order-rankings-sleepers
BY DON BANKS
1.15) Lynch to the Rams has become a popular mock pick, and if it came true, I know it would make his L.A.-based agent Leigh Steinberg a very, very happy man. In reality, this is more of a projection than some of my other picks, because I don’t think the Rams are to the point in their scouting where they know enough about Lynch to know if he’s their guy. But that research is ongoing, and he makes for an intriguing possibility. Lynch with the Rams could represent the future while he takes something of a redshirt season watching Case Keenum and Nick Foles play in 2016.
April 12, 2016 at 12:58 am in reply to: Gordon & Manziel…& more Manziel…the official staring at the car wreck thread #41780
znModeratorJohnny Manziel actually living with suspended WR Josh Gordon in LA
Over the weekend, Johnny Manziel told TMZ cameras that is is currently living with Denver Broncos linebacker (and Super Bowl MVP) Von Miller but both Miller and his agent quickly disputed that report. Now comes word that Manziel is actually living in Los Angeles with indefinitely suspended Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon according to ESPN.com.
Wow-just wow. If this report is true, it sounds like an unmitigated disaster for both parties. It could be especially damaging to Gordon, who had at least been giving the impression that he had finally gotten his life in order after repeated suspensions for substance abuse and is currently awaiting a decision by the NFL front office on his petition to be re-instated for the 2016 season. Living with Manziel is clearly not going to convince Roger Goodell that Gordon is fully committed to sobriety.
znModeratorRodger Saffold @Rodger_Saffold
I’m 100% and everyone will finally see me be great I have never been so focused and I will return the Rams investment for years to come!
znModeratorCould the Rams use the 15th pick on Connor Cook?
Vincent Bonsignore
link: http://www.insidesocal.com/nfl/2016/04/07/could-the-rams-use-the-15th-pick-on-connor-cook/
As the NFL Draft draws closer, one of the more fascinating War Rooms to watch is the Los Angeles Rams, who own the 15th pick in the first round, five picks within the top 110 and have a desperate need to find their quarterback of the future.
Or, as Rams general manager Les Snead often refers to it: “The Holy Grail search for a Hall of Fame QB.”
Could that quarterback be Connor Cook from Michigan State, and are the Rams considering him with the 15th pick overall?
If you believe Jon Gruden, who sat down with Cook during Gruden’s QB Camp segment on ESPN, Cook could end up the best quarterback in this year’s draft.
Here is what he told Cook upon watching film of him at Michigan State:
“You started making plays that really weren’t there — not just making system plays … making plays that I’ve never seen before,” Gruden said. “Your mentality playing the quarterback position is different than any kid I’ve had in here in three years.
“This is awesome man, this is great stuff, you seed the whole field,” Gruden said, marveling at Cook’s ability to handle a pro-style offense. “My pass offense got better by meeting you, Cook.”
But more on that in a bit.
In the micro view of the Rams, Snead and head coach Jeff Fisher are comfortable that current starter Case Keenum is good enough to stabilize the position in order the keep the Rams competitive. In the macro, they both understand they have to secure a much better player to lift the franchise from competitive to dominant.
The good news is, two quarterbacks in the draft profile as Day One starters with the potential to be among the best at their position during their careers: North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz and Cal’s Jared Goff.
The bad news is, at least three teams drafting ahead of the Rams – and possibly a fourth – are also in need of a long-range quarterback. So, unless the Rams are aggressive moving ahead of the Browns (2nd pick), 49ers (7th), Eagles (8th) and possibly even the Cowboys at No. 4, it’s highly unlikely they’ll have a shot at either Wentz or Goff.
And even if the Rams aggressively approach trade partners – which I fully expect them to do – it still takes two to tango and you have to believe the 49ers and Eagles will be just as aggressive.
In other words, it will be very, very competitive moving into position to land Wentz or Goff.
Which means it’s incumbent on the Rams to have a back-up plan, and perhaps be open to pulling the trigger with their first-round pick on a quarterback who, on the surface, might seem a reach with the 15th pick overall but likely won’t be available when the Rams pick again in the second round.
Which brings us back to Cook, who is considered among the four best quarterbacks in the draft along with Wentz, Goff and Memphis’ Paxton Lynch and is picking up steam recently as a possible first rounder.
Here is some video of Cook last year with the Spartans, whom he threw 9,194 yards for over three seasons as a starter to go along with 71 touchdowns against 22 interceptions:
A month or so ago, Cook was considered a second rounder. But with the Denver Broncos losing both Peyton Manning and Brock Osweiler, they seem likely to draft a quarterback with their 31st pick overall.
Cook and Lynch the two most likely bets, although the 6-foot-4, 230-pound Cook seems to be nudging ahead of Lynch as he profiles as a more ready to play NFL quarterback and provides more certainty his game will translate at the next level.
Or, as former NFL quarterback and current ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski said, “Connor Cook is a guy that his game on the field projects well to the NFL.”
The Rams are showing interest in Cook, having met privately with him prior to his Michigan State Pro Day last month, but it was assumed they did so with the thought of drafting him in the second round.
It’s a game plan they might have to scrap, considering the Broncos new situation.
But are they willing to craft a game plan in which they invest the 15th pick overall in him?
Here’s the thing: If the Rams truly believe Cook can be their quarterback of the future and get on the field sooner rather than later, why take the risk he’ll be there with the 43rd pick in the second round or use future assets to move back into the first round to grab him before the Broncos pick?
Why not make sure you get a guy you absolutely believe in – even if it’s a little higher than you hoped – then circle back to other needs with four more picks within the top 110?[/quote]
znModeratorVideo from @SportsCenter – Jon Gruden calls Connor Cook perhaps the best quarterback in the #NFLDraft: https://t.co/Y04xrZEgf3 #Spartans
— Spartan Football (@MSU_Football) April 7, 2016
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znModeratorhttp://thehuddlereport.com/archive/2016profiles/Connor.Cook.htm
STRENGTHS
Connor has very good arm talent and when his mechanics are right, he can make all the throws with good velocity, touch and arm strength. He has very good command of his multiple formation offense playing equally well under center and in the shotgun. He shows excellent intelligence and the stubbornness to make a play when most would give up on that play once he gets acclimated to the pressure and has trust in his blocking. He has good overall athleticism to slide or escape the pocket to pick up a first down when it is needed. Connor has the arm talent and size the NFL likes in its prototypical quarterbacks and when he works out at the combine, he will impress a lot of coaches with his potential to become a starting quarterback at the next level.CONCERNS
Connor struggles with his accuracy, arm strength, mechanics and decision making when a play breaks down or when he is under duress in the pocket. A play has to be perfect and in rhythm and if not, Connor lacks the football instincts to improvise. He struggles to reload and make accurate throws when he slides in the pocket, but in his defense, when the play calls for him to move the pocket and he keeps his mechanics in check, Connor throws the ball very well and with accuracy on the run.TALENT BOARD: ROUND 3
Connor fights his demons as the game progresses, which is a very good thing to see in a developmental quarterback. He fights reacting poorly to pressure in the pocket and when he does this, he is very impressive and can bring his team back from a deficit and win a game. He has excellent talent, but like I said struggles when things are not working to perfection. If Connor can overcome his propensity to be inconsistent when under duress early in games, there is no reason to think that he can’t become a starting quarterback in the right situation for an NFL team. However, I think it will take time and sometimes time is not something NFL teams and coaches have in this day and age. The reason for that? The cost of doing business is higher than it ever was and developing quarterbacks is becoming a thing of the past. Right now with the information I have in front of me and looking at film of Connor, he projects as a backup quarterback with some potential to be a winning starting quarterback at some point in the future. He reminds me a lot of Redskins and former Michigan St QB Kirk Cousins who is developing with excellent coaching, the same style of coaching Connor will need.Drew Boylhart JAN.2016
znModeratorLook at the weird page I found. It shows this years WRs rated with last years WRs.
If I read it right, according to this, then, WR is okay in 2016, it just lacks the A+ grade elite prospects. In every other way it compares.
znModeratorWith Olgetree moving to the MLB spot, I would not be shocked if Myles Jack ends up being the pick, if he slides.
I agree they could go defense in round 1, especially DE or CB. But why would they spend a 1st round pick on DEPTH at LB? They have Barron (who cost them a pretty penny) and they have a 1st round pick at MLB (Ogletree) and they have a SLB (Ayers), and the way they play, the SLB is only on the field less than 50% of the time. Why then spend a 1st on a linebacker? They’re set at LB. They could use that 1st round pick on any number of things they actually DO need.
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znModeratorEx-Browns safety Donte Whitner visiting Rams
Conor Orr
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000651811/article/exbrowns-safety-donte-whitner-visiting-rams
Donte Whitner was worried that his late release from Cleveland would jam up his chances of landing a fair deal in free agency.
But at least he’s getting some interest.
The 30-year-old, three-time Pro Bowler is visiting with the Rams this week, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. Pro a Football Talk first reported the development.
Whitner tweeted a photo of his boarding pass Sunday morning.
Los Angeles is still smarting after a free agent period that saw them lose some key pieces in the secondary. At the moment, T.J. McDonald, Cody Davis and Christian Bryant round out their safety corps.
If nothing else, Whitner is a versatile, experienced safety with some juice left in the tank. The Rams will have some interesting pieces to play with, especially if they continue to learn ways to utilize Mark Barron as a hybrid defender.
Whitner had more than 80 tackles in 2015 along with 1.5 sacks.
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