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April 17, 2016 at 9:42 am in reply to: Snead, Peter King, & Polian Weigh in on Trading Up For #1 – Video/podcast #42165
znModerator(just a recommendation) from off the net
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RamsNole
Two comments from Bill Polan that I really liked hearing in that interview:
1) The trade was a slam dunk for the Rams and
2) Todd Gurley might be better than Hershel Walker!Thoroughly enjoyed listening to that interview!
znModeratorCal QB Jared Goff has skills, NFL-ready talent to warrant being Rams’ No. 1 pick
JACK WANG
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/goff-712427-wentz-nfl.html
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HOT READ: JARED GOFFArm strength: Enough to work with, but not a standout trait
Accuracy: Particularly impressive under pressure, against single coverage
Speed: Not a burner, but pocket presence may be unmatched
Intelligence: Effective late in progressions, can throw receivers open
Leadership: Took a bad Cal program from 1-11 to eight wins
As far as college quarterbacks go, Jared Goff is not among the most decorated.
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He racked up gaudy numbers, but did so in an Air Raid-styled spread offense. He was never in serious discussion for any major national awards and had to share his All-Pac-12 first-team nod this past season. He finished with a career record of 14-23.None of that, however, should prevent the Rams from drafting him No. 1 overall over North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz at the end of this month.
“I went into every game thinking I’m the best player on the field,” Goff said last summer. “Because I think you have to.”
He was reflecting on his 2013 debut at Cal, when he became the first true freshman quarterback in program history to start a season opener. That first campaign in Berkeley was miserable, with the Golden Bears winning just a single game under new coach Sonny Dykes.
But to those who would knock Goff for not being a “winner,” consider this: The 21-year-old is already mentally prepared for the hardships of an NFL transition. He is unlikely to see his confidence shaken by even the worst losses, unlikely to be fazed by the pressure of being anointed the savior of Los Angeles pro football.
He also checks off several other boxes, having improved his passer rating by double digits in every season. CBS Sports’ Dane Brugler and NBC Sports’ Josh Norris both rank the Bay Area product as the more attractive prospect, as does Sports Illustrated’s Chris Burke. Bleacher Report’s Matt Miller said in a recent radio appearance that he would take Goff over Wentz “without a doubt.”
Even NFL Network’s Mike Mayock, who prefers Wentz for his tools and upside, has called Goff the “most ready-to-play quarterback in this draft.”
“You just don’t see very often college quarterbacks who have his ability both mentally and physically,” Brugler said. “His ability to throw guys open, that passing anticipating. You saw that a little bit with Jameis Winston, but he brings something different to the table – something that projects very well to the NFL level.”
Of course, it’s easy enough to find those on the other side of the aisle, too. Wentz is still the favorite to go No. 1 on a litany of mock drafts, including one from Cris Collinsworth that predicted the Rams’ blockbuster trade a month before it was finalized.
The case for Wentz is simple enough to understand. The Bismarck, N.D., native stands at 6-foot-5 and 235 pounds, giving him an inch and 20 pounds over Goff. He can heave the ball downfield like no other prospect in the draft, whereas Goff’s arm strength is only good, not great. In terms of NFL quarterback builds, it’s hard to find a better prototype than Wentz. Goff, on the other hand, has been dinged for 9-inch hands and his relatively slim frame.
But Wentz also presents more question marks, the least of which is the fact that he faced inferior competition at an FCS program. Plenty of other quarterbacks have flourished in the NFL despite their small-school resumes: Delaware’s Joe Flacco, Northern Iowa’s Kurt Warner and Alcorn State’s Steve McNair all come to mind. Jeff Fisher was also the Houston Oilers coach when they drafted McNair third overall in 1995, which sets some precedent for the Rams to take another risk.
The issue is that taking Wentz would almost certainly mean more risk, compounding the one that the Rams already took by trading six draft picks to the Tennessee Titans earlier this week. Fisher and General Manager Les Snead are both entering the final year of their original contracts. As much as they insist that the pick will be about the long-term future, it’s difficult to imagine their job security not factoring into the decision.
And what Goff lacks in pure physical tools, he could make up with timing and accuracy. He didn’t play in a pro system at Cal, but the Bears’ coaching staff entrusted him to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage based on how he read the defense. And although he often had four receivers lined up, the quick decision-making required of him should translate to the next level. Goff also threw 1,568 career passes, more than double Wentz’s 612.
Concerns about Goff’s frame may also be overblown. He was able to put on significant weight through his college career, and could add another 10 or 15 pounds as a pro. While he may not absorb big hits as well as Wentz, his fine-tuned pocket presence could help him avoid those hits in the first place.
“I always want to go out there with something to prove,” Goff said at the NFL scouting combine. “I always have a chip on my shoulder and I always want to go out there and prove people wrong, prove people right, whatever it is.”[
znModeratorfrom off the net
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Kind of Blue/Gold
Scouting profile – Zierlein NFL.com (comped with Matt Ryan – I would absolutely take that, if looking at Wentz being a McNair doppleganger for Fisher, Goff may be for Ryan in the case of Snead – who was with ATL when they drafted him, and he has had success since, probably would have done a lot better without such a bad OL and defense in recent years).
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jared-goff?id=2555334Goff “holds serve” at Cal pro day
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645575/article/cal-qb-jared-goff-held-serve-in-proday-workoutGoff heads combine risers – Brooks NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000640517/article/jared-goff-heads-combine-risers-noah-spence-connReuter:%20Goff%20confirms%20draft%20status%20at%20combineor-cook-fallMatt Waldman Boiler Room #15 film scouting breakdown Going Deep with Jared Goff (VIDEO 5 minutes)
RSP Boiler Room No.15: Going Deep With QB Jared GoffBoiler Rom #29 Jared Goff and Pocket Presence (VIDEO 10 minutes)
RSP Boiler Room No.29: QB Jared Goff & Pocket PresenceHighlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TcwdHWD3YU%5B/quote%5DApril 17, 2016 at 12:19 am in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42149
znModeratorWell, I just don’t know what to do with stuff like this. One place I read a knock on Goff is lack of poise under pressure. Here somebody is saying he is excellent because he is used to playing behind a porous line, and will make plays against blitzes.
So. How am I supposed to know?
Keep reading and look for patterns. That tends to sift out the “one time” comments.
I think the consensus on Goff is how poised he is under pressure and a lot of people remark on how well he handled playing behind the porous Cal OL.
April 17, 2016 at 12:14 am in reply to: Rams hit rate on 4th-7th rnd picks, how many UDFAs, & other depth issues #42148
znModeratorBy subtracting so many picks, Rams have to worry about depth going forward.
I already did their percentages on 4th-7th round picks. What about UDFAs?
How many UDFAs on the current roster?
* Tim Barnes, though he wasn’t originally a Fisher/Snead find
* Malcolm Brown, who IMO showed promise last year
* Benny Cunningham, who is obviously good depth at RB but also IMO a top KR
* Justice Cunningham, practice squader who has been called up a couple of times
* Cody Davis, a special teamer who may get a chance to play FS
* Cory Harkey, they just re-signed him, he’s valuable
* Jonny Hekker, pro bowl
* Matt Lonacre, flashed a little depth at DE but too soon to say
* Bradley Marquez, smart special teamer and flashed a little something at WR
* Jake McQuaide, long snapper
* Chase Reynolds, ace special teamer but not a Fisher/Snead find
* Marcus Roberson, good depth at CB based on last year
* Louis Trinca-Pasat possible depth at 3 tech, had some buzz last year
* Ethan Westbrooks, if he’s for real this is the year to show it, has the attitude and the measurables
* Darrel Williams, flashed a little as OT depth before getting injured
* Doug Worthington, depth behind Brockers? see Trinca-Pasat…he played a bit last yearThere are others. My memory isn’t good enough to separate some of the “ronin” type young veteran cuts they picked up from the original (signed first by Rams) UDFAs.
I think it’s obvious the Rams are actually very good at recruiting UDFAs.
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April 16, 2016 at 11:08 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42144
znModeratorThere is a TON in this thread. It’s just crazy with stuff, already…and it has only been 2 days.
The true diehard addicted Rams junkie will read this entire thread devotedly. And, contribute to it.
But then who is to say who is and isn’t a diehard? I mean, besides me.
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April 16, 2016 at 11:06 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42143
znModeratorfrom off the net
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max
Goff v. Wentz
Some like Wentz:
Mayock
Cosell
CollingsworthSome like Goff:
Waldman
Riddick
KiperThe list go on. Football Outsiders has Goff as the clear choice based on their stat analysis. PFF has Goff as their #1 guy with all their stat analysis.
I was leaning toward Wentz, but I’m not so sure. The one thing that really bugs me is the 2 year difference in age.
Other considerations:
Reportedly, from Silver, Goff threw in the rain in his private workout with the Rams. People who were there told Silver the ball never touched the ground. Silver is likely biased toward Goff being a Cal guy himself, but I think he honestly believes the Rams are taking him. And that statement about Goff showing in the pouring rain during the Rams workout and the ball never touching the ground was very telling.
If the Rams are truly into analytics as I’ve heard, then I think Goff will be the pick. His stats are far superior to Wentz.
2 guys I really respect, Louis Riddick and Matt Waldman, are big Goff fans. Riddick said Goff is a lot like Montana. And Waldman, who does an extreme amount of film study, said there is a significant gap between Goff and Wentz. Waldman writes the Rookie Scouting Portfolio and says Goff is the clear best QB and its not even close.
I’m not a big Cosell fan. And Mayock said Manziel was the best QB in 2012… he’s not the best evaluator of QBs, in my estimation. I think he knows a lot of insiders, but I don’t trust his evaluations.
Anyway, I can see arguments for either guy. Things I personally prefer about Goff are his accuracy, pocket awareness, and he’s only 21. Also, Goff had a lousy supporting cast while playing against top tier teams and he set so many Cal records. If the Rams take Wentz, that’s fine too. They are doing all the homework and they are using all the analytics stuff, so they will make an informed choice.The Rams have more info than anyone. All we can hope for is that they pick the best one.
znModeratori’m just wondering if wentz’s skill set is a better fit for an offense that will feature a lot of the running game.
I know what you’re saying because Wentz offers a bit of the read option. But it’s also possible, though, that with Goff being (at this point anyway) the more sophisticated passer, the Rams scheme for those strengths more.
I always thought the Rams passed as much as the qb let them. In 2012, for example, they were a 59% passing team. In 2015, they were a 53.4% passing team.
That IMO is just the difference between having a (non-melted down) starting caliber veteran qb…and, not.
znModeratorNo price too high if an NFL team like the Rams think they can land a franchise quarterback
Gary Myers
The price is always right – no matter how outrageous – if it results in a franchise quarterback who wins Super Bowls. Is Carson Wentz or Jared Goff that guy?
“It’s always been a quarterback league,” former Giants GM Ernie Accorsi was saying over the phone last week after the Rams blockbuster trade with the Titans. “It’s a quarterback league more now than ever. If you really believe in a quarterback, then to me, it’s hard to pay too much.”
Accorsi, who retired as the Giants GM after the 2006 season, hasn’t studied Wentz or Goff, so he was not offering his opinion on whether either was worth all that the Rams gave up to the Titans on Thursday to move up to the No. 1 pick to grab one of them. He just believes if you have a conviction on a quarterback, then you have to be bold in acquiring him.
His legacy with the Giants is the franchise altering deal on draft day with the Chargers in 2004 to get Eli Manning. Accorsi believed in the Manning bloodlines and specifically in Eli and was never concerned he paid too much. He was right. The two Super Bowl trophies in the Giants lobby are proof.
The Chargers had drafted Manning first overall knowing he wouldn’t play for them, then agreed to trade him to the Giants when they were on the clock with the fourth pick. Accorsi picked Philip Rivers for San Diego. The Giants also included their third-round pick in 2004 and their first- and fifth-round picks in 2005. Interestingly, the Chargers wanted the Giants’ second-round pick in ‘04 rather than their first round pick in ‘05, but Accorsi talked them out of it. He then took Chris Snee, who developed into one of the best offensive linemen in Giants history. He also refused the Chargers’ demand to include Osi Umenyiora in the deal.
The Rams are desperate for a quarterback and desperate to make a splash in their first season back in Los Angeles. They gave up the 15th pick in the first round, two second-round picks and a third-round pick this year and their first- and third-round picks next year to the Titans in exchange for the first overall pick on April 28 and choices in the fourth- and sixth-rounds. The extra-second round pick the Rams owned had come from the Eagles last year along with Nick Foles in the trade for Sam Bradford.
Accorsi was the Colts GM when owner Robert Irsay traded John Elway to the Broncos. He was vehemently against dealing Elway, who refused to play in Baltimore because he didn’t want to play for coach Frank Kush. Accorsi picked Elway anyway and then found out the next week while watching a basketball game on television that Irsay traded him to Denver for tackle Chris Hinton, who had been the fourth overall pick in the draft, the Broncos’ 1984 No. 1 pick, which the Colts used on guard Ron Solt and veteran quarterback Mark Herrmann. The Broncos also agreed to play the Colts in preseason games in Mile High Stadium in 1984 and 1985. Irsay’s share of the gate receipts were worth $800,000.
When Accorsi begrudgingly was shopping Elway before the draft, his asking price was three No. 1s and two No. 2s. He wanted one of the first-round picks to be very high in the round. His plan was if he couldn’t have Elway, he was going to draft Dan Marino. He got neither.
Accorsi quit after the season a few months before the Colts left for Indianapolis. Elway played in five Super Bowls and won two of them. “What would you get for Elway now? Five No. 1 picks?” Accorsi said. “You can’t overpay Willie Mays. You are not going to get up there that often and if you are able to get up there, every year is not the year you get the great ones. If you really believe the guy is a great one, I’d be a complete hypocrite if I ever said don’t go do it. I just think the quarterback is so crucial. If you really believed in them, I applaud the Rams.”
Wentz is a big, strong guy with the major negative that he played at North Dakota State. One source said he thinks Rams coach Jeff Fisher looks at him and sees Steve McNair. Other say the Rams like Goff. Still another faction believes they haven’t make up their minds, which is ludicrous.
The Rams didn’t give up the guts of their 2016 and 2017 drafts without knowing who they are taking. That doesn’t make any sense. They have fallen in love with Wentz or Goff, they just aren’t saying who is the lucky guy.
GOFF FOR SECONDS
The Browns were thought to like Wentz over Goff, but with Wentz likely headed to the Rams, I think the Browns still should take Goff, who is more NFL-ready than Wentz. The Browns are 0-for-4 with first-round QBs since coming back into the NFL in 1999: Tim Couch, Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel. They can’t count on RG3. If he was any good, he would be starting for Washington… If the Browns elect to wait until the second round to take Connor Cook or Christian Hackenberg, then they will likely go for UCLA linebacker Myles Jack or Florida State cornerback Jalen Ramsey with the second overall pick or trade out… Philly could be the team that tries to move up. The Eagles want a QB. Talks with the Titans didn’t go very far… Ohio State running back Ezekiel Elliott is the best player in the draft. But with RBs devalued in a passing league, it appears the highest he might go is eighth to the Eagles… If the Giants didn’t have so many other needs, Elliott would be a perfect fit for their offense. But 12 days before the draft, I think Notre Dame OT Ronnie Stanley makes the most sense. That would give them three No. 1 picks (Ereck Flowers, Justin Pugh and Stanley) and a second-round pick (Westin Richburg) to protect Eli Manning… Ryan Fitzpatrick’s greatest leverage in his stalemate with the Jets is that Geno Smith is currently on top of the QB depth chart… It’s heartwarming that Mike Tannenbaum and Terry Bradway have reunited in Miami. How soon before Eric Mangini joins them?
znModeratorfrom this thread: Who Interviewed Well/Poorly at the Combine? http://theramshuddle.com/topic/who-interviewed-wellpoorly-at-the-combine/
As I tweeted during the Combine, the Browns said that North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz was a stud in the interview room. Other teams echoed that. They said he is a bright, smart kid with excellent play recall.
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Cal quarterback Jared Goff got mixed reviews. Some teams said he did well and others said he did poorly. Sources said he did have good play recall.April 16, 2016 at 9:54 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42134
znModeratorGreg Gabriel @greggabe
Interesting, in talking to scouts/coaches, majority of the personnel people I’ve talked to favor Wentz, majority of coaches favor Goff
Talking to different decision makers around the league, it’s pretty much split as to whom they think Rams take. 50% Goff. 50% Wentz
I have friends on Rams staff and as of now they haven’t been told who pick will be. If they don’t know, “sources” sure as hell don’t know
znModeratorWatched most of the 1st 2 quarters. Wentz of course looks good. Nice find PA. I like it when you do stuff like that.
znModerator– Rams work out QB Vernon Adams
Best line on the net today, by somebody (I forget who): “well that would explain the big trade up.”
znModeratorJason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
Continue to hear TEN is working hard to move back into the top 10, and w/ teams expecting Rams to take Goff, Browns very open to move downApril 16, 2016 at 6:01 pm in reply to: Path to the Draft one hour special Saturday at 8 PM ET solely about Goff/Wentz #42126
znModeratorCrap. I don’t get it.
My bet is someone on the net will describe it and I will look for that and post it.
April 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42108
znModeratorZn thinks that ‘teams’ have rated G/W higher than
the pundits have…but i have not read that, myself.
(do teams really tip the media off on that stuff?)They can and do, but it’s usually under these conditions—anonymously, and with other teams in the discussion too, so it’s harder to figure out who it is.
Here’s an example:
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin
Been told multiple times that Carson Wentz and Jared Goff graded out higher for a number of teams than Mariota and Winston did last year.April 16, 2016 at 1:38 pm in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42104
znModeratorfrom off the net
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TomSlick
The Bay Area media is very high on Goff, and quite perturbed that the RAMS will get Goff and trash the niners for years to come. For that reason alone, draft Goff.
April 16, 2016 at 12:00 pm in reply to: Path to the Draft one hour special Saturday at 8 PM ET solely about Goff/Wentz #42098
znModeratorIs this on the internet or on TV? What web address or network?
NFL Network, tv
April 16, 2016 at 11:57 am in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42096
znModeratorWhen is the last time the Rams had a 12-15 year QB?
Well they did have one in Bradford. But he only lasted 5 years.
April 16, 2016 at 11:12 am in reply to: audio & vidz: Fisher/Snead on the trade & more Fisher, 4/14-16 #42091
znModeratorJeff Fisher, Los Angeles Rams
Los Angeles Rams head coach Jeff Fisher joins Max and Marcellus to discuss the upcoming season and the return of NFL football to the city of Los Angeles.
Fisher Starts At 4:10
znModeratorGreg Cosell’s draft preview: Carson Wentz’s valid Andrew Luck comp
Greg Cosell
Leading up to the NFL draft on April 28-30, NFL Films’ Greg Cosell will be sharing his views on many of the top prospects based on his extensive film study of those players.
Andrew Luck was considered a rare prospect, and as such, people are hesitant to compare other high-level prospects to Luck.
I believe Carson Wentz is a high-level prospect, my top quarterback in this draft class, and I think the comparison to Luck is valid.
What happens down the road in any prospect’s career is pure speculation, and how Wentz does in the NFL is a product of many variables. So I don’t know how Wentz’s NFL career will compare to what Luck has done or will continue to do. But I see many similarities between the two quarterbacks.
Like Luck, Wentz is smart. He was a 4.0 student at North Dakota State. Physically, the two are similar, and we’ll get to that in a bit. One thing that stood out to me about Wentz is his poise in critical moments. That reminds me of Luck as well.
Wentz, with his team trailing 28-24 against Northern Iowa last season, led a late drive and threw a game-winning touchdown in the final minute. He converted a couple key fourth downs and showed outstanding poise and composure. It was an excellent combination of patience and aggressiveness. (Move ahead to 11:24 of the video below to watch him lead the game-winning drive.)
Physically there’s a lot to like about Wentz too, and there are more reminders of Luck. Wentz is a very good athlete for a 6-foot-5, 237-pound quarterback (Wentz is actually a smoother-looking athlete than Luck because his body type is different: he is longer and leaner than Luck despite weighing 237 pounds). He has an awareness of how to play the position, like Luck. He has the ability to drive the ball when the throw demands it, as Luck does.
Wentz has very good arm strength. He is a tight, compact, easy thrower for a big quarterback. The ball comes out with velocity. Wentz can clearly drive the ball, which is a result of a strong core and lower body.
Wentz isn’t just a fastball thrower. He has showed the refinement to throw with touch and pace when demanded. He can make firm, touch seam throws that are part of NFL passing games. He showed an excellent feel for the different kinds of throws that are necessary for the situation.
There were other things I liked about Wentz when I watched the film: He had an excellent command of the offense, controlling the game at the line of scrimmage when needed with a lot of audibles and checks. He excelled in a structured passing game that asked him to make progression reads and difficult NFL-type throws. All of that will help in his transition to the pro game.
He also is a good runner. There were times when the NDSU offense looked like the Carolina Panthers offense with its multiple backfield actions and run game dimensions.
If a team decides to use Wentz as a regular part of their running game, as the Panthers do with Cam Newton, he has the ability to excel in that role.
Wentz has many skills you like to see, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll be an NFL success. Going back to the Luck example, even though the assumption was that Luck’s decision making wouldn’t be a problem in the NFL because of his high-level intelligence, he hasn’t been a consistently good decision maker in the pros — that’s a part of Luck’s game he must continue to work on. So it’s always tough to project any prospect, no matter the position. There’s a lot of variables involved in becoming a high-level NFL player, especially at quarterback.
I can only tell you what I’ve seen on tape from the prospects going into the draft. And what I’ve seen from Wentz is pretty good. He’s my No. 1 quarterback in this draft.
znModeratorThe NFL Draft Report’s “Cream of the Crop” Series – The Complete Scouting Reports on the 2016 Draft’s Top Quarterbacks – Carson Wentz, Jared Goff
and Paxton LynchTHE NFL DRAFT REPORT PRESENTS THE 2016 NFL DRAFT QUARTERBACK ANALYSIS – PART II
In Part Two of our four-part series analyzing the 2016 NFL Draft Quarterback Class, The NFL Draft Report examines three potential first round prospects, looking at the gridiron careers from high school through college. Very detailed scouting reports and analysis are provided on North Carolina State’s Carson Wentz, California’s Jared Goff and Paxton Lynch from Memphis.
Also provided is a draft history, looking back at the NFL’s reliance of the quarterback position since the draft’s inception in 1936, the trends set after the two leagues merged to form a universal draft in 1970 and a look at the first round’s booms-&-busts over the years.
THE NFL’S QUARTERBACK DRAFT INFATUATION
Since the draft’s inception in 1936, 1,027 college quarterbacks have been selected. That figure includes 665 signal-callers entering training camp since the two leagues merged and held a universal draft in 1970. Since the turn of the century in 2000, 198 of these quarterbacks have heard their names called on draft day.
That group of passers includes 155 first round choices used since 1936, with 96 coming after the merger and 42 joining the league since the year 2000. Within that opening round collection, 31 have been the top overall selection during their respective draft year, with 21 earning that distinction since 1970 and eleven stepping on to the podium first since 2000.
Among the first round quarterbacks are thirteen that eventually ended up earning Hall of Fame honors. While Pittsburgh’s D’Angelo Williams might not be a fan of his, the measuring stick for elite quarterbacks – at least in the first round – has been Peyton Manning. Taken with the top pick in the 1998 draft by the Indianapolis Colts, among all first round quarterbacks, he leads that group in games played (266), games started (265), most victories (189), most pass completions (6,125), most pass attempts (9,380), most touchdown passes (539) and most yards passing.
John Hadl (tenth pick in the 1962 draft by Detroit) holds the dubious honor for throwing the most interceptions (268) among the first round passers – Manning ranks fifth on that chart with 251. Only nineteen first round quarterbacks have completed 2,500 passes during their career, while only eleven have attempted at least 5,000 throws. Ten signal-callers accounted for 250 touchdown tosses, but outside of Manning, only Miami’s Dan Marino (27th choice in 1983) has reached the 400-TD level (420).
Ten quarterbacks have accounted for at least 40,000 yards passing. However, outside of Manning (71,940) and Marino (61,361), the only other first round pick to tally at least 50,000 aerial yards was Denver’s John Elway, the top overall choice by Baltimore in 1983 before forcing a trade to the Broncos. Fourteen of these passers have recorded at least 200 interceptions. Behind Hadl, the only other QBs with at least 250 interceptions are Manning (251), Marino (252), Norm Snead (1961 second overall pick by Washington, 257 thefts) and Vinny Testaverde (Tampa’s top pick in 1987, 267).
As for mobile quarterbacks, Michael Vick (top pick by Atlanta in 2001) leads the first round group with 6,109 yards rushing. Hall of Famer, Otto Graham (fourth choice in 1944 by Detroit) is the top scoring producer among quarterbacks with 44 touchdown runs. That record will soon fall during the early stages of 2016, as Carolina’s top selection in 2011, Cam Newton, has already piled up 43 touchdowns on the ground during his short, but highly productive career.
Being a first round quarterback does not lead to entitlement. Eighteen first round choice at the position played no more that fifteen games before their careers ended, including five that appeared in less than ten contests and two that never reached the playing field – Harry Agganis, the 12th overall pick by Cleveland in 1952, and New York Titans’ fifth overall choice in 1962, Sandy Stephens.
Whether he gets another chance to play in this league, or not, perhaps the most polarizing first rounder in recent years is Cleveland’s castoff, Johnny Manziel, the 22nd pick in the 2014 draft. His off-field issues left him with a 2-6 record as a starter, throwing for seven touchdowns and seven interceptions before getting the boot.
Don Allard was the fourth overall pick by Washington in 1959, but he appeared in just five games and never threw a pass before quitting after the 1962 season. San Francisco guru, the late Bill Walsh, missed the target badly with his first round selection of Jim Druckenmiller in 1997. In two season, the Virginia Tech grad had one touchdown and four interceptions in six appearances.
Rich Campbell went to Green Bay with the sixth pick in 1981, but never started the seven games he played in through the 1984 schedule. Bobby Garrett appeared in nine games and gained 143 yards passing after he was the top overall choice by Cleveland in 1954. Outside of Druckenmiller, the other first round quarterbacks to start only one game during their careers were the Rams’ Terry Baker )top pick in 1963), who lasted eighteen games as a reserve through three seasons and Stan Heath, the fifth overall pick by Green Bay in 1949 who appeared in twelve contests during that lone season in the league.
The first round quarterback to perform in at least 100 games with the least amount of starts was Rice’s King Hill, the top overall pick in the 1958 by the Chicago Cardinals. He moved with the team to St. Louis before playing in Philadelphia and Minnesota. He compiled a 7-22-1 record as a starter, generating 5,553 yards passing that included 37 touchdowns and 71 interceptions from the 1958-69 seasons.
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THE 2016 NFL DRAFT QUARTERBACK CLASS FIRST ROUND CONTENDERS
CARSON WENTZ Quarterback North Dakota State University Bison #11 6:05.2-237
In just two years as a starter, Wentz has delivered the Bison a pair of NCAA Football Championship Subdivision national championships. He has started just twenty-three games, compiling a 20-3 record at the helm. A right wrist fracture sidelined him for most of the second half of the 2015 schedule, but he returned in time to help the team record its fourth consecutive FCS title.
Despite those limited starting opportunities, Wentz finished his career ranking third in school history with 392 completions of 612 passes (61.2%) for 5,115 yards and 45 touchdowns while throwing only fourteen interceptions through 43 appearances. Quite mobile for a player his size, he also scored thirteen times and generated 1,028 yards on 216 carries (4.8 ypc). What he has become known for is his heroics, as he led the team to victory within the final minute of four contests as a Bison.
THE FAMILY SPORTS PROGRAM
With his imposing frame, Wentz looks more like a linebacker – in fact, much like his father, Zach, who was a standout linebacker. He captured All-Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference first-team honors in 1986, playing for the Northern State Wolves who earned the league title that year after Minnesota-Morris was forced to forfeit all their victories for using an ineligible player.
Carson’s older brother, Zach, was a pitcher and infielder for the North Dakota State baseball team. As a junior, he batted .292 and led the team in at-bats (216), runs (39), hits (63), doubles (17), homers (5) and total bases (95). His216 at-bats in 2011 were the second most in NDSU single-season history and he stretched a team-best 14-game hitting streak from the second weekend of play in February through the end of the end of spring break.
During that span, Zach went 26-for-62 (.419) over that span and raised his batting average from .111 to a season-high .380. He closed out his four-year career with a 13-16 record that included seven complete games as a pitcher. He also compiled a .334 batting average while recording 269 hits in 805 at bats, cracking 20 home runs and 133 runs batted in through 209 contests before signing a pro contract to play for the Fargo-Moorhead RedHawks in 2012.
Carson’s cousin, Connor, was a teammate on the North Dakota State football team, joining the Bison as a tight end in 2013. As a red-shirt freshman last season, he played in fifteen games. He managed to catch four passes for 42 yards, but two of those grabs were good for touchdowns.
THEY COULN’T SINK THIS BISMARCK PROSPECT
Wentz was a do-all type of athlete before graduating from Bismarck Century High School in 2011, where he competed in football, basketball and baseball. Off the field, he served as his class valedictorian. When he first arrived on campus as a freshman, he stood only 5-foot-8 and weighed in at 125 pounds. By the time he graduated four years later, he had grown ten inches and put on over one hundred pounds to his frame.
If only he could reach six-feet tall, he thought to himself. Then, just maybe, the high school coaches would look at him as the potential starting quarterback at Century High School. “That’s what I was praying for,” Wentz said. The prayers were answered, and then some. Before he became the 6-foot-6, 231-pound starting quarterback for North Dakota State in 2014, he was a growing boy in high school.
He reached 5-foot-10 as a sophomore and that’s when things really started to take off. He grew to 6-3 as a junior and 6-5 as a senior. “You could see the frame coming, but by no means did we estimate 6-5 or 6-6,” said Century head football coach Ron Wingenbach. “Just the physical awareness you see of Carson now is the most imposing thing. Look at the weight; he’s put on a lot of good pounds.”
The National Honor Society member led the Patriots to an 8-3 record, a conference title and to the state semi-finals as a gridiron sophomore and senior. He missed his junior football season after injuring his arm playing baseball, but he returned and was named the 2010 North Dakota Class 3A Player of the Year while playing for coach Wingenbach. He also received All-State at-large accolades, along with being named All-Conference at both quarterback and defensive back. As a senior, he completed 91-of-149 passes for 1,285 yards and 12 touchdowns. He rushed 85 times for 553 yards and 13 scores, in addition to recording 61 tackles and two interceptions.
A three-year starter for baseball team, he played first base for the 2010 American Legion and high school state runner-up teams. He batted .386 with 26 RBIs for Century High coach Mike Gustavsson as junior, and also hit .421 with 41 RBIs for the Bismarck Governors Legion. He was also a starting forward/center for the state’s top-ranked basketball team.
In two seasons as the Bison starting quarterback, Wentz has completed 63.25% of his passes (358-of-566) with 42 touchdown tosses
WENTZ DECIDES TO STAY CLOSE TO HOMEWentz did not receive any major college scholarship offers as a late bloomer coming out of high school. The Central Michigan Chippewas were coached by Dan Enos back in 2011 and he was one of the few FBS coaches who showed interest in Wentz, who shut down his recruitment right before Central Michigan came through with an offer.
“They didn’t technically offer, but when I called to tell them I was confirming and declaring to go to North Dakota State University, they told me they were going to fly out this week to get me an offer. But I just wanted to go play and wanted to go win games and I think I made the right decision,” Wentz said.
Wentz might have had a change of heart if he had known he would pine on the bench during his first three seasons at NDSU. He was red-shirted his entire first season with the Bison, and in 2012, he was relegated to backup quarterback duties behind the Bison’s starting quarterback, Brock Jensen. In his college debut, Wentz completed all eight of his passes for 93 yards and threw his first touchdown pass after coming in to relieve Jensen during a 66-7 blowout victory over Prairie View A&M University. He finished that season completing 12 of 16 pass attempts for 144 passing yards and two touchdowns.
Although Wentz was still the second string quarterback in 2013, he appeared minimally in eleven games. He had his best game that season vs. Delaware State University, finishing with 10-of-13 completions for 105 passing yards and a touchdown. His season figures saw him complete 22 of 30 passes for 209 yards and a touchdown.
With Jensen having graduated, Wentz stepped into the starting role for the Bison in 2014, leading the team to a 15-1 record and another national title. He established school season records behind 228 completions of 358 passes (63.7%) for 3,111 yards, as his 25 touchdown tosses ranked second on the NDSU annual chart. He also averaged 4.7 yards per carry while scoring six times on the ground.
During a game vs. Western Illinois, Wentz caught a 16-yard touchdown pass from running back John Crockett and lead the Bison to a 17-10 comeback victory. He had his best game vs. Missouri State, throwing for 247 yards and five touchdowns. In his first National Championship game vs. Illinois State, he passed for 287 yards, a touchdown and rushed for 87 yards and scored a 5-yard scamper to give North Dakota State the lead with 37 seconds left, going on to a 29-27 win and the school’s fourth-straight national title.
The fifth year senior started the first six games on the 2015 schedule before suffering a right wrist fracture in the first half of the South Dakota clash. He had just thrown for 335 yards the previous week vs. Northern Iowa and even with his wrist injured, he completed 16-of-28 passes for 195 yards and two scores before leaving the USD contest.
After starting the first six games of the season and completing 63.7% of his passes for a total of 1,454 yards, and 16 touchdowns, he would go on to miss the next eight weeks of the season. He returned to practice in the beginning of December and was cleared to play in the National Championship. He would lead the Bison to its fifth consecutive FCS National Championship, running for two touchdowns and throwing for a third.
Wentz was also named the NCAA Division I Championship Game Most Outstanding Player for the second straight year. He finished the season connecting on 130-of-208 attempts for 1,651 yards and seventeen touchdowns vs. only four interceptions. He also scored six times as a ball carrier, averaging 4.7 yards on 63 rushes.
The four-time Missouri Valley Football Conference Honor Roll member would cap his career off the field, as the two-time MVFC All-Academic first-team selection added NCAA Elite 90 Award and 2015 CoSIDA Academic All-American of the Year honors. He was also a two-time CoSIDA Academic All-America and Academic All-District choice, in addition to receiving the 2012 and 2013 MVFC Commissioner’s Academic Excellence Award.
Wentz might have come from the small college ranks, but several league officials at the 2016 Senior Bowl called him the “most NFL-ready QB in years”
THE HIT OF THE SENIOR BOWLWhen Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook opted not to play in the 2016 Senior Bowl, it gave Wentz a grand opportunity to shine under the spotlight in Mobile, Alabama during the cold 2016 January weather. The draft’s other top quarterback prospects, California’s Jared Goff and Memphis’ Paxton Lynch, are juniors and, thus, were ineligible to play in the game. Wentz seized the role of the top performer throughout practices, thus solidifying his status as the draft’s top signal-caller.
“I don’t know of any quarterback that doesn’t want to be the top guy in their class,” Wentz said, when told about Cook deciding not to attend the game. “And if you don’t think you are or don’t think you have the ability to be that, you’re probably in the wrong sport. Because we’re all competitors, we’re playing football here. We want to be the best at our respective positions, and that’s always the goal.”
Scouts and coaches throughout the Senior Bowl practices were impressed while often seeing Wentz put his outstanding accuracy, crisp passing, mechanical sharpness and decisiveness on display. In the game, he completed 6-of-10 passes for 50 yards. He then further showcased his athleticism at the 2016 NFL Scouting Combine. He ranked among the position’s top three performers in the 40-yard dash (4.77), the broad jump (9-foot-10) and the three-cone drill (6.86) while measuring in at 6-foot-5.2 and weighing 237 pounds.
WENTZ SCOUTING ANALYSIS
Body Structure…Wentz shows good upper and lower body bone structure, with solid chest, shoulder and arm thickness. He has a strong bubble and thighs, with well-defined calves and a frame that could develop to 245 pounds with no loss in quickness. Despite his impressive weight, he looks a bit lean, but he has very good power to break arm tackles on those occasions when he runs with the ball.
Athletic Ability…Wentz displays good quickness and mobility for his position, which is evident by the way he has to can elude pressure while keeping the ball secure. He is equally effective throwing on the move as he is standing in the pocket. He has good flexibility and leg drive moving back from center to his past set point. He has functional playing speed and while he won’t win many long distance foot races, he does show good balance to break arm tackles on the move. While not blazing fast, he does show fluid change of direction agility and good strength, evident by the fact that he converted 10-of-12 third-down carries into first downs as a junior. He runs with a normal stride and shows good movement retreating in the pocket. His balance and body control allow him to throw on roll-outs and he displays good lateral agility, evident by the way he slides to avoid pocket pressure. While more of a drop-back passer, he has the arm strength to throw on the move. With his feet, he did produce twelve touchdowns during his last 24 appearances.
Football Sense…Despite having just two seasons as a starter under his belt at NDSU, from “day one” of arriving on campus, you could tell from that first practice that Wentz was a good student of the game, one that can easily adjust from college ball to raise his game to another level in a pro style passing attack. There is no question that he has a solid feel for pre-snap reads, doing a nice job of making checks and locating secondary targets (he distributed the ball to an average of eight different receivers per game in 2014-15). He is a smart passer with keen eyes scanning the field, following through with his progressions, but most of his interceptions in 2014 (had ten) were the result of his targets passively making attempts at the ball in traffic (five of his thefts first touched NDSU players first before being picked off). He has those innate instincts, along with developing decision making skills that makes one feel he can handle a pro offense in a short time. He can easily be called a “student of the game,” as he is the type who will shut off the lights in the film room, and he does well in school and should not have problems digesting a complicated play book. Wentz reads coverage well and makes proper checks, showing football savvy and field smarts. He is quick to retain plays and takes the plays from the board to the field with no problems, and boasts some very impressive credentials academically, including All-American accolades.
Competitiveness…Wentz might play an elite position, but he takes pride in his blue-collar work ethic. He is a good team leader and has excellent huddle command, as he has proven to be both mentally and physically tough in the trenches (see 2015 South Dakota game – wrist injury). He is considered a coach on the field and is mature enough to take what the defenses give him, as he excels at keeping his mistakes to a minimum. He is confident in his leadership role and is rarely rattled, especially under pressure. He does the little extras to improve and shows good emotion on the field. He will step up and stand tall in the pocket, but when covered, he has confidence in his mobility, speed and tackle-breaking power to secure the ball and head up field as a ball carrier.
Work Habits…Wentz works hard in the off-season, and is starting to gain the reputation for being the type of player that the coaches will have to kick out of the film room. He is the type that will spend a considerable amount of time with his position coach during his spare hours. He has a good work ethic and is a fine student, along with being a respected leader in the huddle and locker room. He will play with pain and continues to gain poise and confidence working within a pro-style system. He has a team-first attitude and his leadership ability, takes control in the huddle and is a good leader-by-example type.
Wentz puts all of his power behind his deep throws, setting a school season-record with 3,111 aerial yards as a junior
Set Up…Wentz shows good balance and body control driving back from center, displaying the enough quickness with his feet to get into position to make all of his throws. He has good upper and lower body mechanics, as he also displays enough functional strength to break arm tackles on the move. He has developed into more of a classic drop back passer and has become more comfortable in a three- or five-step drop. He also has experience working from the shotgun. He does a nice job of scanning the field and looks comfortable setting up in the pocket and executing his follow-through. He shows good fluidity and quickness when he sets up and is a pretty athletic mover. He can throw on the move and while not blazingly fast going long distances, he sets up quickly and is ready to throw in an instant. He shows the ability to reach his throwing point while maintaining body control and his balance allows him to stand tall in the pocket.Reading Defenses…In two seasons as a starter, Wentz proved to be very capable of handling the mental aspect of the game, as he was a master at improvising. He is a quick decision maker and even when he makes the wrong move, he does not allow his mistakes to linger and rarely shows any frustration on the field or in the huddle. He is a good field technician, knowing how to operate within the framework of the offense, which is predicated on him making quick reads and getting the ball out to his receivers even before his targets are able to break, as this prevents the opponents from getting into position to defend vs. his slower wide-outs. It is rare to see him force the ball into a crowd, and he excels at reading defenses. He shows excellent patience while sitting back, sifting through coverage and then picking apart zones (see 2015 Weber State, North Dakota and Northern Iowa games). When he forces some into coverage, it is because he holds the ball too long, but he is very good at distributing the sphere and looking for his secondary targets. The thing that stands out is his ability to throw with touch and good timing. When flushed out of the pocket, he has enough agility to throw on the run, but he is learning that without quality receivers, he is better served throwing the ball away than force the pass into traffic.
Wentz can connect with his receivers with incredible consistency. He tied the school game-record with five touchdown passes vs. Missouri State in 2014 and completed 29 tosses to ten different receivers in the 2015 Northern Iowa contest
Release …Wentz does throw with a ¾-release, but he has also developed that classic over-the-top, smooth delivery with a high release pro coaches desire. That low release does lead to several of his tosses getting batted down at the line of scrimmage. As soon as he gets to his throwing point, he is ready to unleash the ball. When he releases the ball from over-the-top, his throwing mechanics are much better and he shows more quickness and snap in his release. Because of his solid mechanics, he can launch the ball with accuracy, even when he does not have his feet set. With his compact, quick delivery over the top and a smooth motion getting rid of the ball, defenses have little time to settle under his throws, as he excels at hitting his receivers before they come out of their breaks. When he reverts to ¾-action, his mechanics get a bit inconsistent. He’s not blazingly quick, but on the move, he does a good job of keeping his shoulders square to the line of scrimmage.Arm Strength…Wentz has very good arm strength to make all his throws, even when firing on the move or throwing off his back foot. He is very good at varying the speed on his tosses, showing good zip firing into tight areas. His ball speed is excellent, as it comes off his fingertips easily and receivers don’t have to make too many adjustments, as he leads his targets well. He generates a lot of velocity and ball speed, doing a nice job of throwing the ball across his body while displaying good hip flexibility. He has very good accuracy going long and a lively snap on the short tosses. He demonstrates very good arc on his long outs, as receivers settle over those throws to effortless secure over their outside shoulder. The thing he does best is to generate velocity behind his long throws, as he has a very easy and smooth release. With patient coaching, he will quickly develop confidence needed to release over the top rather than revert to a ¾-release.
Accuracy…Wentz has not only completed 64.1% of his passes at North Dakota State (third-best in school history), he has very good touch and velocity on short and intermediate throws. When playing the vertical game, he leads the receivers well, giving them the space they need to adjust. He is accurate at all levels both from the pocket, shotgun and when on the move (see 2015 Weber State and Northern Iowa; 2014 South Dakota and Missouri State games). He throws a catchable ball with zip or touch, making it easy for his receivers to be successful without breaking off their routes. He will generally throw a tight spiral with good zip on his deep throws and does a nice job of hitting his receivers in stride, as he knows how to adjust the velocity on his short tosses so his target does not have to work back for the ball. He gets good touch and has improved his trajectory on his deep throws, along with showing the ability to stick the ball in tight areas (see 2015 North Dakota and 2014 Incarnate Word games).
Touch…Wentz excels at anticipating the receivers routes and knowing when they will come open. He has very good overall timing and knows when to throw the ball. He will not hesitate to tuck and run with it when his receivers are covered. He knows when to take some heat off his short throws, resulting in better accuracy (see 2015 North Dakota, South Dakota State and Northern Iowa games). His timing is good from the three- and five-step drop backs, but when he holds on to the ball a little too long at times, it will result in more than a handful of sacks (see 2015 Jacksonville State game). He gets good trajectory on his deep throws and displays the ability to anticipate and make adjustments at the line to challenge the soft areas on the field.
Poise…Wentz is cool under pressure and will never be confused for a player with “happy feet” (won’t run at the first sign of pocket pressure). He is never flustered, even when having to hold the ball and throw in the face of a fierce pass rush. He does a nice job of setting his feet so he would not sail his deep passes high. He knows he does not have the foot speed to tuck the ball and run with it, so he stands tall in the pocket and will absorb the hit. He keeps his cool when forced to roll out and will throw the ball away if it takes too long for his targets to get open rather than force the pass into a crowd.
Leadership…Wentz shows that he has good command in the huddle. He is a vocal leader, but not one that will scream just to make a point. He has a strong desire to win and the team seemed to respond well to him, especially when he took over as the starter in 2015. During his time recovering from his wrist fracture, Wentz showed leadership by mentoring his replacement for eight games during the 2015 schedule.
Do not be fooled by Wentz’ linebacker-size frame. If given room to operate, he has no problem taking the ball to the house, scoring twelve times as a ball carrier during his two-year career as a starter
Pocket Movement…Wentz has good speed for a quarterback, but won’t win long distance foot races. He moves well in the pocket and with his power, he can generated first downs on his carries and he has had good success converting third-down snaps with his feet. He will never be confused for being a scrambler in the Robert Griffin III or Michael Vick mold, but he has enough leg drive to break arm tackles to advance the ball and move chains (see 2015 Montana and Jacksonville State games). He has a good feel for pocket pressure and knows when to step up or escape when his protection breaks down, as he does a nice job of buying time with his feet. He maintains his focus downfield, feeling the pressure well. He is more comfortable when dropping back, but has enough arm strength to roll out and throw.Scrambling Ability…Wentz shows good movement, but is really not a great scrambler. He shows the ability to throw on the move. He just can run for big yardage when given a free lane, but is known more for his tackle-breaking ability and power. He has the anticipation skills to know when to step up in the pocket and buy time. With his strong lower frame, he can move the chains, but isn’t a fast or elusive threat to run. He has good body control rolling out in either direction and can throw with very good accuracy on the move.
CAREER NOTES…Wentz started 23-of-43 games at North Dakota State, where he compiled a 20-3 record while leading the Bison to back-to-back national titles…Completed 392-of-612 passes (64.1%) for 5,115 yards, 45 touchdowns and fourteen interceptions…Scored thirteen times on 216 carries that netted 1,028 yards (4.8 ypc), generating 6,143 yards in total offense…Was responsible for 59 touchdowns and also recorded three tackles, in addition to catching one pass for a 16-yard touchdown.
NCAA Career-Record Results…Among active NCAA Football Championship Subdivision players, Wentz ranks fifth with a passing efficiency rating of 153.95…He placed 25 with 59 touchdowns responsible for and ranks third by gaining an average of 7.42 yards per offensive play…His 6,153 yards in total offense is good for 35th within this group.
School Career-Record Results…Wentz ranks third on the school list with 392 completions of 612 passes for 5,115 yards and a pass completion percentage of .641. The only players ranked ahead of him are Brock Jensen (703-of-1,124 passes; 8,598 yards; 2010-130, Steve Walker (534-of-841 tosses for 7,033 yards; 2003-07), Tony Stauss (pass completion percentage of .663; 2003-04) and Arden Beachy (.648; 1990-93)…His passing efficiency rating of 153.95 also placed third on the school record chart behind Arden Beachy (168.6; 1990-93) and Chris Simdorn (159.2; 1987-90)…Ranks third in school annals with 45 touchdowns, surpassed by Brock Jensen (72) and Steve Walker (60)…Has compiled 6,143 yards in total offense, fifth-best by a Bison and his 59 touchdowns responsible for rank eighth.
School Season-Record Results…Wentz set the school records by completing 228-of-358 passes for 3,111 yards in 2014. The previous records were 220 completions by Tony Stauss in 2003, 338 attempts by Brock Jensen in 2012 and Jensen’s 2,793 aerial yards in 2013…His 2014 total of 25 touchdown passes rank behind Jensen’s 34 during the 2013 schedule…His seventeen touchdown throws in 2015 took the fifth spot on that annual chart…Wentz is only the second Bison to ever average 200 yards passing per game in a season (206.4 in 2014), joining Steve Walker (211.5 in 2007; 201.8 in 2006)…Holds the school record with 3,753 yards in total offense in 2014, joining Brock Jensen (3,272 in 2013) to amass over 3,000 yards in total offense during a season at NDSU.
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JARED THOMAS GOFF Quarterback University of California at Berkeley Golden Bears #16 6:04.0-215 Novato, California Marin Catholic High School
With his thin frame and small hands, Goff has seen his detractors emerge since he attended the 2016 NFL scouting Combine, yet, he has his father, Jerry, to serve as a role model for perseverance. Jerry is a former major league baseball catcher who was drafted twice out of high school – first, by the Oakland Athletics and later, by the New York Yankees.
Jerry chose to attend the University of California, where he closed out his career ninth in school history with 29 home runs. He was later drafted in the third round of the 1986 major league baseball draft, 63rd overall, by the Seattle Mariners and he decided to turn professional.
Goff struggled with a low batting average while advancing through Seattle’s minor league system, but also showed good power. The Montreal Expos acquired him from Seattle in 1990, and he made his major league debut with them later that year. He returned to the minors for 1991, but spent parts of the next six years as a backup catcher for the Expos, Pittsburgh Pirates, and Houston Astros.
Goff continued to play professional baseball after his days in the majors were finished. While with the independent Amarillo Dillas, he was a member of the Texas–Louisiana League All-Star team in 1997. He worked as a firefighter in 2001 and was still playing semi-pro baseball for the Novato Knicks, an exhibition team based in Marin County, California.
Son, Jared, has had better success in staying in the lineup, having started all 37 games that he’s appeared in for Cal. He is the only quarterback in school annals to make his college debut as a starter and before he concluded his tenure with the Golden Bears, he boasts owning twenty-six school records.
Among those, Goff established career marks for passing yards (12,220), passing yards per game (329.7 ypg), TD passes (96), completions (977), passing attempts (1,569), total offense (12,086) and total plays (1,739), while the two-time captain was second on the school’s all-time list for passing efficiency (143.95) behind only Aaron Rodgers.
In his final season as a junior in 2015, Goff established Pac-12 Conference single-season records with 4,719 yards passing and 43 touchdown passes while becoming the first Cal quarterback to earn first-team All-Pac-12 honors since Rodgers in 2004. He led an 8-5 Cal team to a winning record and bowl game for the first time since 2011, as well as a post-season win for the first time since 2008.
MAKING HIS MARK AT MARTIN CATHOLIC HIGH
Goff combined to throw for 7,687 yards and 93 touchdowns with 18 interceptions in three varsity seasons at Marin Catholic High School, completing 477-of-767 passes (62.2%) for teams that combined to post a 39-4 overall record and 21-0 Marin County Athletic League mark on their way to one appearance in the state title game, one North Coast Section crown, three NCS playoff appearances and three MCAL championships.
Goff completed 57-of-100 passes (57.0%) for 816 yards with nine touchdowns and two interceptions as a 2010 sophomore for a team that won the MCL title and advanced to the NCS semifinals before finishing 12-1 overall and 7-0 in league play.
As a junior, Goff was successful on 185-of-299 passes (61.9%) for 3,179 yards with 44 touchdowns to only four interceptions in 2011. He earned first-team All-State (Max Preps), first-team All-Metro, MCL Player of the Year and first-team All-MCL honors for a team that reached the NCS finals and won the MCL title while compiling a 13-1 overall record and a 6-1 league mark.
In 2012, Goff earned All-American honors from Super Prep and played in the Semper Fidelis All-American Bowl, completing 4-of-6 passes for 29 yards. He was also selected for the Cal State Game, but did not play due to injury. He also racked up several other honors as a senior, including being named to the Top 150 Dream Team (Prep Star), second-team All-State (Cal-Hi Sports), All-NorCal (Max Preps), Metro Player of the Year (San Francisco Chronicle), North Bay Player of the Year, first-team All-Metro (Bay Area News Group, San Francisco Chronicle), Marin County League Player of the Year and first-team All-MCL.
That season, the senior quarterback led the Metro Area with 3,692 passing yards and 40 touchdown passes as a senior, completing 235-of-368 passes (63.9%) while throwing 12 interceptions. He threw for 262 yards and four touchdowns and ran for another in the Division III state championship game loss to San Diego Madison that completed a 14-2 senior season in which his squad won NCS and MCL titles.
The four-star recruit, according to 247Sports Composite, 247Sports, ESPN, Max Preps, Rivals and Scout, Goff was ranked as high as eighth nationally as a pro style quarterback according to Rivals, ninth by Prep Star and Super Prep, along with placing 15th by 247Sports. The 2012 Elite 11 finalist was also named MVP of the 2012 Oakland Nike Football Training Camp.
No matter how much media attention he’s received during his record-breaking 2015 campaign, Goff always has a moment for a young fan
FOLLOWING THE FAMILY TRADITIONWhile his father, Jerry, was known for his baseball skills at the University of California, he also lettered in football during the 1985 season. His son’s familiarity with the Cal campus was a primary reason that Jared, who was recruited by a number of college programs and received scholarship offers from Boise State, Fresno State and Stanford Cardinal football, chose the Golden Bears.
Goff was a mid-year enrollee at California in January, 2013, and joined the team for spring practice. In August, he was named starting quarterback for the 2013 season over redshirt freshman Zach Kline, becoming the first true freshman quarterback in Cal history to start a season opener.
Goff earned honorable mention All-Pac-12 Conference honors in his first collegiate season as a 2013 freshman when he first set the s school records for passing yards (3,508), passes completed (320) and total offense (3,446) before later surpassing all of the single-season marks. He started all twelve games, and although the team finished 1–11, he showed tremendous promise and finished the season with a .603 pass completion percentage, recording eighteen touchdown passes vs. ten interceptions. On the down side, he turned the ball over six times on ten fumbles, getting sacked 30 times while seeing 62 other passes deflected by the opposition.
As a sophomore, Goff again excelled, statistically. His 3,973 aerial yards and 35 touchdown passes set school records he would eventually break as a junior. He connected on 316-of-519 tosses (62.08%) and reduced his interception totals to seven, recording a 147.5 passing efficiency rating (fifth on the school season-record list).
In the Colorado contest, he threw a career-high seven touchdown passes, completing 24-of-42 passes for 458 yards. His 92-yard touchdown pass to Daniel Lasco against Colorado is the longest in school history. Then, in the Washington State tilt, Goff threw for a school-record 527 yards and five touchdowns in a 60–59 victory. He fumbled the ball nine times, with the defense recovering four, as the QB was sacked 25 times and had 66 passes batted down.
In 2015, Goff led the Bears to an 8-5 season finish, clinching Cal’s first winning campaign since 2011. He surpassed his own school records for passing yards (4,917), touchdown passes (43) and total offense (4,711). His yardage and scoring figures also set new conference marks. He was picked off thirteen times, including recording five pass thefts in the Utah clash, but he only fumbled the ball four times via 26 sacks last season. He was successful on 341-of-529 throws (64.46%) and became just one of two Cal players to ever amass 4,500 yards in total offense.
Goff threw for 453 yards and six touchdowns in a 54–24 victory over Oregon State, earning Pac-12 Offensive Player of the Week honors for the first time. Two weeks later, he set a new Cal game record with 542 passing yards in a 48-46 come-from-behind victory over Arizona State, earning Player of the Week honors for a second time. He would cap his career in the 2015 Armed Forces Bowl, throwing for six touchdowns and 467 yards while leading the Bears to a 55–36 victory.
THE DECISION TO TURN PRO
Two days after the bowl victory, Goff announced that he intended to forego his senior season at Cal and enter the 2016 NFL Draft. The two-time team captain finished his career with 12,220 passing yards and 96 touchdown passes among 26 school records over 37 games played all starts.
“I talked about it with my family and my close friends,” Goff said. “What it came down to really is I felt like I’m ready. I’ve done a lot here and I think I’ve had a great career here. I just felt ready to take the next step. I feel like I’m prepared and as ready as I’ve ever be to take the next step to being an NFL quarterback. That’s really what it came down to. I didn’t listen to too many outside influences. I just tried to focus on what I thought and what the people who matter to me thought. I didn’t think I would be emotional, but when I think all the people who have had an impact on me here, it’s hard to put into words, so I guess that’s why I’ve been a little bit emotional. Just thinking about all my teammates and all the fun we’ve had, it’s hard to say goodbye to that but I’m excited for what’s next.”
“It’s hard with all your players,” California head coach Sonny Dykes said. “Jared is part of a group of guys who have been here since we got here. Jared was part of our first recruiting class. We got to know him early in the process. He graduated early and got here in the spring. He’s been here for as long as I have. It’s hard to lose guys like that, especially everything we’ve gone through as a program and as a team. At the same time, you know things like this are going to happen. It’s inevitable. You’re excited for all your players and what’s next in their lives. Jared will receive more attention, but I’m excited to see what they all do when they’re all done with football. I think Jared has a really bright future. I’m looking forward to having the opportunity to watch him.”
“I am excited for Jared and his family as they move into their next challenge,” Cal offensive coordinator Tony Franklin said. “I include his family because I firmly believe that Jerry and Nancy have played an integral role in molding Jared into one of the best quarterbacks to ever play college football. But more important is how they raised him to being a really good human being with a heart and soul that all parents should strive for their children to possess. It has been a beautiful adventure traveling this journey with Jared and watching him develop from a skinny kid – who was extremely well coached in high school, to a young man with elite leadership skills that blended perfectly with his physical talent.”
Goff impressed during interviews and passing drills, but his slight frame and small hands drew concerns from several teams in the quarterback hunt, most notably – the Cleveland Browns
THE GOFF IMPACT ON THE RECORD BOOKSGoff set 26 school records during his three seasons as the Cal’s starting quarterback from 2013-15 including career marks for passing yards (12,220), touchdown passes (96), total offense (12,086) and completions (977). He was also second on the school’s all-time list for passing efficiency (143.95) behind only Aaron Rodgers. He ranks third all-time in Pac-12 history in passing yards and fourth in passing touchdowns, while he is 26th all-time nationally in passing yards and 27th in passing touchdowns.
Goff also broke a pair of Pac-12 single-season records in his final season as a 2015 junior when he passed for 4,719 yards and 43 touchdowns to lead an 8-5 Cal team to a winning record and bowl game for the first time since 2011. He was also the first Cal quarterback to earn first-team All-Pac-12 honors since Rodgers in 2004, a semifinalist for the Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award and Cal’s Most Outstanding Player in a Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl victory over Air Force when he set the bowl’s single-game records by passing for 467 yards and six touchdowns in his final collegiate game. The bowl victory was Cal’s first since a 2008 win over Miami in the Emerald Bowl.
Goff led the Pac-12 and ranked third in the nation in 2015 in both passing touchdowns and passing yards in 2015. He is also second in both nationally and in the conference in passing yards per game (363.0) among 10 categories in which he ranks among the top three in the conference and top 20 nationally.
Goff finished his career on an incredible run, combining for 1,462 yards passing and 17 touchdown passes to a single interception for a 206.33 passer efficiency rating during the final three wins (Oregon State, Arizona State, Air Forces) of his career over his last four games. He passed for a school-record 542 yards in the win over Oregon State.
Goff was a semifinalist for the Davey O’Brien National Quarterback Award and was on watch lists for nearly every quarterback and player of the year award in 2015 reaching as high as No. 3 on the USA Today Heisman Hot List and tied for sixth on the ESPN Heisman Watch after a 5-0 start that was the Golden Bears’ best since also winning their first five games in 2007 and one victory away from their best since the 1950 team won its first nine contests, ranking as high as No. 19 in the Amway Coaches Poll and No. 20 in the AP Top 25 in the Week 8 national rankings for its highest national rankings in six seasons.
“That’s what I wanted to accomplish when I came here is to get Cal back to where it was before, in the right direction, and I think we’ve done that. Going from 1-11 to being one win away from a bowl game last year and then winning eight games this year and finishing with a bowl victory is huge. We’re back in the right direction. Hopefully they can continue to do that and keep things on the upswing.”
THE NFL DRAFT AND THE CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS QUARTERBACKS
Since the inception of the draft in 1936, only thirteen California quarterbacks have been drafted. Two of them – Mike Pawlawski (1992 eight round pick by Tampa) and Fred Besena (fifth round by Buffalo in 1977) never suited up in an NFL contest. Pat Barnes (1997 fourth round choice by Kansas City) and Dave Barr (fourth round by Philadelphia in 1995) appeared in just one and two games, respectively.
Five of the thirteen quarterbacks selected did hear their names called during the first round. In 1965, Dallas exercised the fifth pick in the draft to take Craig Morton. From 1965-to-1982, Morton appeared in 207 games, throwing for 27,908 yards, 183 touchdowns and 187 interceptions. It would not be until 1975 before another Cal passer would be taken in the opening round, as Atlanta utilized the top pick in 1975 to snatch Steve Bartkowski. He started 127-of-129 games, piling up 24,124 yards with 156 touchdowns, adding eleven scores on the ground.
In 1981, Rich Campbell was selected by the Green Bay Packers, but soon became known as GM Ron Wolf’s biggest failure. He appeared in seven games through four seasons, throwing for 386 yards, three touchdowns and nine interceptions in relief. 2003 Baltimore 19th overall pick, Kyle Boller started 47 games during his NFL career, collecting 8,931 yards with 48 touchdowns vs. 54 pass thefts.
The most successful of the California first round quarterbacks was Aaron Rodgers, who was hailed as a potential top pick in that draft. He mysteriously lasted until the 24th selection, where Green Bay scooped him up. Through 126 games, he’s completed 2,633-of-4,047 passes for 32,399 yards, 257 touchdowns and just 65 interceptions. He’s also gained 2,175 yards and 21 scores as a runner.
GOFF SCOUTING ANALYSIS
Body Structure…Goff has a lean, angular frame that needs to add more bulk, but he showed no loss in quickness after increasing his weight by twenty pounds from his freshman to sophomore season. His hands are smaller than ideal for a quarterback, but he has adequate body structure with decent arm length and wing span. He lacks great muscle definition, but has trim upper body tone in his chest and arms, small bubble, some thickness in his thighs and calves and average body control, balance and flexibility rolling out of the pocket.
Goff has remained intact through three seasons of punishment. He’s been sacked 81 times, resulting in 23 fumbles at Cal
Athletic Ability…Goff is a mobile passer with average balance and body control to make all the throws when on the move, but he lacks that second gear needed to elude when rushing past the line of scrimmage, compensating with the vision to locate the cutback lanes. He is smooth in his retreat from center to his throwing point, demonstrating the slide-&-adjust agility to step up in the pocket or roll out to avoid pressure. He shows average knee bend, but lacks the ability to weave through traffic. He makes an effort to provide ball security before heading up field, but perhaps due to his small hands and slight frame, he’s coughed up the ball 23 times (opponents recovered 11 of them). With his balance moving in the backfield, he can avoid the rush, but you question his peripheral vision due to the high amount of caused fumbles recorded after being sacked 81 times in three seasons. He is not the type that must be accounted for when he rolls out of the pocket, and as far as running with the ball past the line of scrimmage, he is nothing to be regarded as a valid threat. He has the body flexibility to change direction smoothly, but fails to generate the acceleration to win foot races going long distances. He lacks the ideal bulk you look for in a drop-back passer, but he shows the functional hip snap to change directions and avoid some pocket pressure. He has good balance and adequate body control throwing on the move, demonstrating good hip rotation. He has decent foot quickness in his pass set and shows good quick twitch fibers.Football Sense…Goff is a very intelligent player with no problems executing a complicated game plan. He has good arm strength for the short to intermediate area, and has confidence in the fact that he has the raw arm power to air the ball out consistently, but is still savvy enough to keep the game plan within his athletic talents. There are times when he forces the ball into a crowd (see 2015 Utah and USC games), even though he is known as a student of the game who breaks down opposing film and does a good job of making adjustments on the field. The staff cites his knowledge of the playbook and his hours spent helping devise the game plan, calling him a coach on the field. He also excels in the classroom. From a future pro potential standpoint, scouts are confident that Goff will make all of the required reads and checks to perform in a pass-oriented offense.
Competitiveness…Even though he is soft-spoken off the field, Goff has total command of the huddle. He has all the confidence in the world in his targets and knows how to take what the defense gives him rather than force the issue (even though 81 sacks and 23 fumbles indicate he might have been better served throwing the ball away more. He plays until the whistle and despite being under constant pressure, he shows very good poise in the pocket. Because of his confidence in his protection, it is rare to see him bolt too early, as he will stand tall and take some shots. He is a great improviser who always finds ways to make the play. He won’t force the ball into traffic and can keep defenses honest with his long-range arm strength. Do not be fooled by his calmness on the field and in the huddle, for this kid plays with good fire in his belly.
Goff is quick to set up and get ready to throw, accounting for his 43 touchdown passes that set new school and Pac-12 Conference records in 2015
Set Up…Goff has very good balance and quickness driving back from center to his pass set point. He is effective throwing on the move from either hash, but not a threat to run with the ball past the line of scrimmage. He shows tight mechanics and sets his feet with good agility and base. Even with just average timed speed, his feet appear light when forced to move out of the pocket (just not going to win foot races and has had just one of his 170 rushing attempts gain at least 20 yards). With his body control, agility and hip flexibility, he is quick driving back from center, doing a nice job of setting his feet in either 3-step or 5-step drops. He gets to his throwing point fluidly and has the balance to make all the throws on the run (just not a threat to break the line of scrimmage and generate valid yardage). He is nimble and agile rolling out of the pocket and has the balance to step up and avoid pocket pressure. His speed to his throwing point allows him to surprise the lethargic defender.Reading Defenses…Goff is confident in his ability to make all of his throws. He has the vision to scan the field and make good progression reads. His interception ratio indicates (disregard 2015 Utah and 2013 Northwestern games) that his vision and patience won’t get the team into trouble with costly turnovers. He is not the type who will get even a bit over-confident and fire the ball into tight coverage, as he shows patience waiting for his targets to get in position to make the play and knows how to get the ball to his deep targets over their outside shoulder without the receiver having to adjust (see 2015 Oregon State, Arizona State and Air Force games). While patient waiting for the plays to develop, he is not the type that will hold on to the ball too long and then try to force the action to make the play, as he knows when he needs to throw the ball away. One thing you quickly notice on film is that he is not only innovative, but quite creative when the pocket collapses (just not fast enough to beat defenders on long distance running attempts).
Release…Goff demonstrates the compact delivery and throwing motion, along with the wrist flick, to get the ball out cleanly and quickly. He has a compact motion, holding the ball chest-high to execute a fluid release on deep throws, but you would like to see his release point a bit higher on those attempts (seems to fire the ball at ear-length than going over the top). He gets the ball through the throwing arc well and has a lively arm on short-to-intermediate passes and has learned how to vary his speed at times (as a freshman, he tended to put too much zip on his short throws). He plants well to throw and the pass comes out with a tight spiral, putting a nice spin behind his long tosses, even though he does utilize a lower than desired release point throwing the bombs. Still, even with that delivery, and just average hand size, Goff is very effective at getting the ball out quickly. He carries the pigskin chest-high, but needs to be more alert to backside pressure and ball security, as defenses have had some success batting the ball out from behind (see 2015 Texas and 2014 Colorado, Washington and Oregon games). He shows very good arm whip to get the ball out in time to hit the receivers coming out of their breaks.
Arm Strength…In the short-to-intermediate area, Goff’s tosses show very good zip and velocity. When he attempts to air it out, the ball comes off his fingertips in an instant, showing very good weight distribution and passing mechanics. It is very rare to see his long tosses float or fall off, and almost never will his receivers have to break off their routes. He generates the same velocity, whether throwing off his front or back foot. He has the touch to fire the ball into tight areas underneath and shows good hip rotation to generate a tight spiral. He would be comfortable in a West Coast or ball-controlled offense, but with his arm strength, he can certainly make all the throws, evident by his last two years excelling in a pro-style passing attack. He has no trouble airing the ball out, as he has confidence in his arm power and accuracy to connect consistently on those throws (see 2015 San Diego State, Washington State and Grambling State games). He shows good ease of movement unleashing the ball and puts good velocity on his underneath throws, knowing when to take a bit off those tosses to make it easier for the receiver to secure without having to adjust. He is the type of quarterback that needs to be in a scheme where he can air the ball out, rather than playing “dink-&-dunk” with a short area passing game, as he is highly effective at throwing ropes 40 yards down field with ease. With his live arm, he knows he can generate zip anytime he has to on his long attempts.
Goff has classic throwing mechanics and has greatly improved his footwork, resulting in 78 touchdown passes behind 8,692 aerial yards since the start of the 2014 schedule
Accuracy…Goff is very accurate throwing from the pocket (owns the third-best pass completion percentage – .6227 – and second-best passing efficiency rating – 143.95 – in school history) and has the balance to also make those throws on the move. He is very consistent setting his feet and shows good mechanics delivering the ball on time. He is a nice rhythm passer and not one that relies on hot streaks. He can drill the ball through the seam, but on short routes, he needs to vary the velocity of those throws so receivers only have to execute minimal adjustments. In 2015, he demonstrated good ease of movement on his deep throws, but needs to improve his trajectory (had 43 passes deflected in 2015; 66 in 2014; 62 in 2013). He did a nice job of placing the ball on the receiver’s outside shoulder. He likes to air the ball out more than stay underneath, as he knows how to get the ball to his targets in stride rather than have them wait or come back for it.Touch…Goff is good at making pre-snap judgment calls. He has good timing working in the intermediate area, but when he reverts to a ¾ release on his deep throws, he does lose touch and ball placement in that area (see 2015 Utah and USC games). He has the ability to adjust on the move, thanks to his good field vision. He is equally effective hitting the receivers in stride working underneath and on deep routes, as his short throws show good touch and placement while his long throws will come off his hands with good zip and velocity.
Poise…Goff is a gutsy field general, evident by his performance playing under a lot of pressure the last three years. He’s been dinged up a bit, mostly with just nicks and bruises, but he stands tall in the pocket under pressure and won’t panic and try to run with the ball. He quickly forgets his mistakes and works through his progressions well, showing patience waiting for his targets to get open. Earlier in his career, he felt that he had to carry the team and make every play, getting into bad streaks of firing into a crowd (see 2013 Northwestern game), but he now keeps his cool when “bullets are flying” and knows that when all else fails, he has the arm to step up and avoid the pocket pressure. He stands tough under duress and shows confidence in his ability to execute the play.
Leadership…Goff has complete control of the team, both on the field and in the locker room. He has a good understanding of the game plan and will not hesitate to take a teammate to task for poor play. His quiet air of confidence is contagious, as his teammates feed off his moxie. He is patient waiting for plays to develop and does a very good job with ball security. He is not really vocal on the field or the type that will demonstrate “Brett Favre” bravado, but is more like Tom Brady, taking what defenses give him without putting on a vocal show to tick opponents off. His teammates respect him and he is very assertive once he makes a decision.
Pocket Movement…Goff has the mobility to avoid pocket pressure, but lacks the suddenness to tuck the ball and head up field for big gains. He is effective at finding his secondary targets on the move. He stands tall and takes some punishing hits because of his lack of ideal speed, though. When he does escape past the line of scrimmage, defenses will soon converge and take him down. Most of his sacks are the result of Goff sitting too long at the X’s, as he knows he has only adequate speed (shows good slide quickness in attempts to roll out and throw on the move, though). Even when the pocket breaks down, he knows he can make all of his throws on the move. As a ball carrier, he just lacks the burst, strength and body lean to gain additional yardage after the initial hit and he needs to become more conscious of protecting the ball and shielding it from the defenders.
While he has average speed, 23 fumbles and just one touchdown with one run for over 20 yards on 170 carries makes Goff suspect as a ball carrier
Scrambling Ability…Goff is effective at rolling out to locate his receivers, showing good accuracy throwing on the move. He won’t win foot races past the line of scrimmage, but knows how to square his shoulders and follow his blockers on goal-line running plays. He needs to add more bulk and strength in order to be more of a consistent tackle-breaker. He has good velocity throwing on the move, but is not highly agile trying to escape the defenders when heading up field.CAREER NOTES…Goff started all 37 games at California, becoming the first quarterback in school history to make his debut as a member of the first unit…Gained 12,200 yards with 96 touchdowns and 30 interceptions on 977-of-1,569 pass completions (62.27%), but scored just once on 170 carries for losses totaling 114 yards…Participated in 1,739 plays, generating 12,086 yards in total offense… Has been sacked 81 times for minus 582 yards, as he turned the ball over eleven times via 23 fumbles and saw 171-of-1,569 pass attempts (10.90%) deflected by the opposition.
NCAA Career-Record Results…Among active NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision players, Goff leads the group with 1,569 pass attempts and ranks second with 977 completions (Western Kentucky’s Brandon Doughty has 1,023)…Ranks third with 12,200 aerial yards. In the FBS ranks, that figure places behind Doughty’s 12,855 yards. At all levels, Virgil Adams (Eastern Washington and Oregon) has amassed 13,076 yards…His 96 touchdown passes rank behind Adams’ 136 on the overall chart and Doughty’s 111 sat the FBS level…Ranks fourth with 12,086 yards in total offense.
Pac-12 Conference Career-Record Results…Goff is one of five league performers to amass 12,000 yards in total offense (12,086), joining Connor Halliday of Washington State (13,189; 2011-14), Marcus Mariota, Oregon (13,033; 2012-14), Sean Mannion, Oregon State (12,796; 2011-14) and Matt Barkley, Southern California (12,214: 2009-12)…His 12,200 yards passing placed third in Pac-12 annals behind the 13,600 yards by Sean Mannion, Oregon State (2011-14) and 13,327 yards by Matt Barkley…One of five league quarterbacks to record at least 90 touchdown passes (96), joining Matt Barkley of Southern California (116), Oregon’s Marcus Mariota (105), Southern California’s Matt Leinart (99; 2003-05) and Connor Halliday of Washington State (90; 2011-14).
Pac-12 Conference Season-Record Results…Goff’s 4,711 yards in total offense in 2015 is topped by only Oregon’s Marcus Mariota (5,224 in 2014) in league history…His 4,719 yards passing set the league mark in 2015. The only other Pac-12 passers to generate at least 4,500 yards were Sean Mannion of Oregon State (4,662 in 2013) and Connor Halliday of Washington State (4,597 in 2013)…
His 43 touchdown passes last season surpassed the previous Pac-12 record of 42 by Oregon’s Marcus Mariota in 2014…One of six players in Pac-12 history to throw for 3,000 or more yards in three seasons and one of two to throw for 3,000 or more yards in each of his first three campaigns.
School Career-Record Results…Goff holds the school record with 12,086 yards in total offense, topping the old mark of 8,236 yards by Troy Taylor (1986-89)…His 12,200 yards passing broke Taylor’s old Cal record of 8,126 yards…Also holds the Cal record with 96 touchdown passes. The previous mark was 64 by Kyle Boller (1999-2002)…Shattered the school record with 22 300-yard passing performances…His passing efficiency rating of 143.95 is surpassed by only Aaron Rodgers (150.3; (2003-04) in school annals.
School Season-Record Results…Goff holds the top three spots on the school list with 3,508 yards passing in 2013; 3,973 in 2014 and 4,719 in 2015. The old record was 3,416 yards by Pat Barnes in 1996…His 43 touchdown passes in 2015 set the school record that he previously established with 39 scoring strikes in 2014. Pat Barnes held the old mark with 31 in 1996…His passing efficiency rating of 161.3 in 2015 placed second on the school chart behind Dave Barr (164.5 in 1993).
znModeratorHere’s what Dane Brugler has to say about Goff’s strengths:
STRENGTHS: Good height for the position with the body type to add weight and fill out…outstanding feet, set-up quickness and release, displaying the lower body mechanics to easily come to balance and throw in rhythm – terrific pocket presence to float from pressure with his eyes downfield and buy extra half seconds…climbs the pocket with controlled steps…fundamentals don’t break down when the play does and capable of the correct spontaneous decision…cerebral passing instincts with a strong understanding of anticipation and timing, throwing receivers open…very good self-evaluator and learns from his mistakes…quick trigger and spins a pretty ball with the velocity to drive it and make all the necessary throws…improved eye use to hold defenders, keep the middle of the field open…very good placement to give his receivers a chance to catch-and-go with the touch to deliver tight-windowed throws between levels of the defense…sees the field well pre-snap to get a head start on his progressions…patient to work through his reads, feeling the rush, not looking at the rush…has the stones to stay tough in the pocket even with the hit coming…improved recognition skills pre-snap to identify pressures and find the hot route on blitzes…not a statue, showing enough athleticism to move the pocket and pick up yards as a rusher…trusts his teammates with a steady demeanor regardless of down-and-distance or what the scoreboard says – played behind a spotty offensive line and with receivers who had high drop rates…effective pooch punter, averaging 37.7 yards per punt (12/452), including six inside the opponents’ 20-yard line…two-year team captain (voted by his teammates) – ultra-reserved and laid back personality…athletic bloodlines – father (Jeff) was an All- American baseball catcher at Cal and played seven seasons in MLB (1990-96)…started every game the last three seasons (37 career starts)…rewrote the Cal record book and holds 26 school records, including career passing yards (12,200), touchdown passes (96) and completions (977) – only the second Pac-12 passer to throw 3,000+ yards in each of his first three collegiate seasons.
Here’s what Drew Boylhart has to say about Goff’s strengths.
STRENGTHS
Jared is another quarterback who has improved in every game I have seen him in this year. He has excellent arm talent to make all the throws with touch when needed along with accuracy and velocity that is expected from a top quarterback for the next level. Jared has a very quick release plus quick feet that help him to set up quickly and keep his balance to execute with outstanding accuracy when he throws the ball. He plays with a healthy fear of personal failure that drives him to succeed and improve. He is demanding of the players around him and because of his accuracy and football intelligence, has the respect of his teammates on the field. Jared gets rid of the ball quickly because he is able to read defenses at the college level and look for mismatches in the passing game. He obviously patterns and copies his set ups and drops (from under center) on Peyton Manning’s style and in doing so, has improved dramatically from the first game of this season to the last bowl game. Jared has franchise talent and potential.April 16, 2016 at 9:05 am in reply to: Goff or Wentz? Wentz or Goff? Der Wentz oder Goff entscheidung #42072
znModerator. (Mods: I won’t post any more of these in this thread. It’s just part of the healing process for me.)
Don’t worry about it. Honest, it’s no time for mods to be hyper-categorical. This move (the trade) was a big deal. Do as you wish in discussing it.
April 16, 2016 at 1:39 am in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42063
znModeratorBut I just think that giving your draft away in St. Louis for a rookie QB and asking for patience would have been a tougher sell.
Are they asking for patience?
Last year’s team could have won more games with Keenum and/or a rookie qb IMO. That’s just how bad Foles was. So I see them as potentially more viable now.
Secondly, if they don’t care about PR, which I think they don’t, they wouldn’t care if people disapproved. Not if they think they are doing the right thing for the longterm good.
And besides…where’s the alternative? They weren’t going to sign a vet qb and they know Keenum is a stopgap. What option did they have where they wouldn’t be seen as asking for patience? Was there ever really an actual short-time fix out there?
znModeratorRams and Titans both win with blockbuster draft trade
Peter Schrager thinks this is the rare trade that will boost both franchises.
By Peter Schrager
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tennessee-titans-los-angeles-rams-draft-trade-no-1-pick-041416
Four years ago, the St. Louis Rams traded the second overall pick of the 2012 NFL Draft in exchange for a haul of selections that eventually led to eight players, including current franchise cornerstones Greg Robinson, Michael Brockers, and Alec Ogeltree. Now, in their first year in Los Angeles, with a gaping hole at quarterback, it’s the Rams playing the role of the aggressor, sending a haul of draft picks, including this year’s first and two second-round selections, in addition to next year’s first-round pick, to Tennessee in exchange for the first overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft.
The NFL Network reported on Wednesday that the Philadelphia Eagles were engaging in “exploratory talks” for the first pick. Turns out, the Rams were having concurring ones all along. The biggest predraft trade since the one in 2012 was actually nearly finalized on Wednesday afternoon, but sources tell FOX Sports that both sides agreed to wait until Thursday morning, out of respect for Kobe Bryant playing in his final NBA game.
Looking at it from my vantage point, I love this trade.
For both teams.
With Los Angeles’ 2016 15th overall and two second-round selections, the Titans now own six of the first 76 selections in the 2016 draft. If picks are currency, the Titans — who already have their franchise quarterback in 2015 second overall pick Marcus Mariota — are rich.
Tennessee, which has been been more or less irrelevant the past few years in the below-average AFC South, can build a team around Mariota. First-year general manager Jon Robinson, a longtime pupil of Bill Belichick’s up in New England, made his mentor proud. Tennessee, which had the luxury of not needing a quarterback, is now the biggest power player in the 2016 NFL Draft.
If Tennessee did, indeed, want Laremy Tunsil, the talented left tackle out of Ole Miss, with the first pick of this year’s draft, it can still likely get at least one of the other top offensive tackles in this year’s crop at 15. If Notre Dame’s Ronnie Stanley and Tunsil are off the board, there’s a good chance the two next-tier tackles, Michigan State’s Jack Conklin and Ohio State’s Taylor Decker, will be on it. And if Tennessee really wants Stanley (assuming Tunsil is gone in the top five), the Titans now have the luxury of picks to wheel and deal a bit and move up to get him.
As for the Rams, the pick will be a quarterback, make no mistake about that. Whether it’s Jared Goff or Carson Wentz is not clear at the moment. Both players are viewed as top prospects and offer different skill sets to Los Angeles.
Goff, a San Francisco native, is perhaps more experienced and better suited for the Hollywood billboards and bright, flashing lights. But Wentz is bigger, faster, and has two FCS championships under his belt. Wentz would be the first FCS or Division 1-AA quarterback selected first overall in the modern era, yes, but Jeff Fisher had a lot of success with another Division 1-AA quarterback he once drafted in Steve McNair. Both are viewed as immediate upgrades over the current stable of quarterbacks the Rams employ.
This is the rare trade where I love it for both sides.
So, what about all that Case Keenum talk this offseason?
Over the last three months, Rams general manager Les Snead has doubled down and tripled down on saying that Keenum was the team’s starting quarterback. He said it at the Combine, said it at the owners’ meetings in Florida and then reiterated it on FOX Sports 1’s “The Herd with Colin Cowherd.” But Snead was playing poker this month, not blackjack. And the Rams are trying to playing chess, not checkers. Case Keenum is a fine quarterback. He’s not opening up the Los Angeles Coliseum.
Whereas other teams might have hesitated on this deal, Los Angeles’ roster is built in such a way where it can make a trade of this nature. The Rams are the youngest team in the league, had an extra second-round pick from the Nick Foles-Sam Bradford trade they made a year ago and needed a quarterback. As an NFL source put it to me Thursday, “Everyone cites that Redskins trade and what the Redskins gave up for Griffin. If Griffin worked out, you’d never hear a peep about it. Nobody ever mentions the haul the Giants gave up for Eli Manning.”
The Rams watched from the sideline as Kirk Cousins was given a $20 million deal and Brock Osweiler raked in $72 million down in Houston. They’ll pay their franchise quarterback roughly $22 million over 4 years. Not a bad deal, if you look at it that way.
In short, the Rams need to nail the pick. Goff or Wentz. Wentz or Goff. They’ve got two weeks to discuss, debate and figure it out. If their quarterback is any good (and I believe both will succeed at the next level), the Rams will have no regrets.
This is the rare trade where I love it for both sides.
The Rams are officially on the clock.[
April 16, 2016 at 12:36 am in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42056
znModeratorI don’t know why they did it. I do think that moving to L.A. had something to do with it. They will never admit that but I don’t think if they had stayed in St. Louis they would have done it.
So if it was a football decision and not a marketing decision–Foles probably led to that.
I disagree with the first bit, and agree with the second bit. I think they would have done it in 2016 regardless. What comes before it is losing 2 qbs in a row, one to injuries/trade and one to meltdown.
This is by far the safest, easiest route to getting a 12-15 year qb.
Meanwhile I have posted stuff that says many TEAMS…not pundits, teams…rank Goff and Wentz higher than Mariota and Winston.
I seriously doubt either Fisher or Snead care about PR, and I seriously doubt SK is an interfering owner.
znModeratorJared Goff (California, QB) | 2016 NFL Combine Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oagfYhvOB6I
Carson Wentz (North Dakota St., QB) | 2016 NFL Combine Highlights
April 15, 2016 at 11:32 pm in reply to: audio & vidz: Fisher/Snead on the trade & more Fisher, 4/14-16 #42052
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2016 NFL DRAFT: JEFF FISHER DISCUSSES L.A. RAMS’ TRADE FOR FIRST PICK
Los Angeles Rams head coach Jeff Fisher discusses the timeline of the blockbuster trade with the Titans for the first overall pick and his reaction to people saying the Rams gave up too much.
link: http://www.nbcsports.com/video/2016-nfl-draft-jeff-fisher-discusses-la-rams-trade-first-pick
April 15, 2016 at 11:28 pm in reply to: Clayton says the move by the Rams was out of desperation #42051
znModeratorI don’t think it’s desperate. I think it was opportunistic.
Here;s how I see it. They already have a young stocked team. The missing piece is qb. There is only one high percentage way to solve a qb issue, and that’s either to already have a high pick, or to spend something to get one.
Meanwhile what they lose in draft picks they gain in cap space. A 1st round qb under the new CBA is a 5 year bargain. (And it’s 5 years because of the 5th year option.)
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