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    Rams CB Trumaine Johnson working his way back quickly

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/31498/rams-cb-trumaine-johnson-working-his-way-back-quickly

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — On Oct. 9, in the fourth quarter of an eventual loss to the Buffalo Bills, primary Los Angeles Rams cornerback Trumaine Johnson sprained his right ankle on a play that could’ve wound up tearing his knee. Twenty-four days later, he was flying around the field in practice, at one point intercepting a pass from No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff and laughing as he jogged to the end zone.

    Johnson was limited while working out with the team on Wednesday, but only because the Rams held him back.

    “He wanted more,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “That’ll give you some idea.”

    Johnson, barely more than three weeks removed from being fitted for a protective boot, has a realistic chance of playing in Sunday’s home game against the Carolina Panthers. His presence would be a major lift against Cam Newton, the reigning MVP, and his two 6-foot-5 targets, tight end Greg Olsen and wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin. Without Johnson, listed at 6-2 and 208 pounds, the Rams would start three corners — E.J. Gaines, Lamarcus Joyner and the inexperienced Troy Hill — who stand no taller than 5-10.

    “His experience and size factor and the matchup factor,” Fisher said of what Johnson would provide if he is able to play. “They’ve got big receivers and they can run, and he’s tall and he can play the ball.”

    Fisher went on to say that he was pleased by the play of his other three corners in the Week 7 loss to the New York Giants in London. But it’s difficult to duplicate Johnson’s production. He tied for the fourth-most interceptions in the NFL from 2013-15 with 13, then tied for the NFL lead with seven pass breakups — a stat that combines batted passes with passes defended — through the first five weeks this year.

    He’s also a fast healer.

    “Sometimes that type of injury can set you back a little bit longer,” Fisher said, “but he’s worked really hard.”

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    Panthers averaging sturdy 27.3 points per game, while Rams are 30th in NFL with 17.1

    Last 3 metric: Rams 24th with 19: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/points-per-game

    Rams struggling in passing game yet again with just 227.7 yards per game, despite showing signs of improvement from last season.

    Last 3 metric: Rams 8th with 275.0: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-yards-per-game

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    Panthers visit Rams in meeting of struggling teams

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/11/03/panthers-visit-rams-in-meeting-struggling-teams.html

    LOS ANGELES (AP) CAROLINA (2-5) vs. LOS ANGELES (3-4)

    Sunday, 4 p.m. ET, Fox

    OPENING LINE – Panthers by 2

    More from FoxSports

    RECORD VS. SPREAD – Carolina 2-5, Los Angeles 3-3-1

    SERIES RECORD – Panthers lead 12-8

    LAST MEETING – Panthers beat Rams 30-15, Oct. 20, 2013

    LAST WEEK – Panthers beat Cardinals 30-20; Rams had bye, lost to Giants 17-10 on Oct. 23

    AP PRO32 RANKING – Panthers No. 23, Rams No. 26

    PANTHERS OFFENSE – OVERALL (7), RUSH (5), PASS (9).

    PANTHERS DEFENSE – OVERALL (20), RUSH (3), PASS (30).

    RAMS OFFENSE – OVERALL (30), RUSH (29), PASS (25).

    RAMS DEFENSE – OVERALL (11), RUSH (15), PASS (12).

    STREAKS, STATS AND NOTES – Carolina makes its first trip to Hollywood. Panthers entered NFL in 1995, few months after Rams and Raiders simultaneously left nation’s second-largest city. … Coaches Jeff Fisher and Ron Rivera were teammates on 1980s Chicago Bears. … Teams met in divisional playoff game during 2003 season. Carolina beat Mike Martz’s 12-4 St. Louis team in double overtime. Rams haven’t had winning season since. … Panthers averaging sturdy 27.3 points per game, while Rams are 30th in NFL with 17.1. … … Panthers’ 30-20 win over Cardinals last week snapped four-game skid. They try to win back-to-back games for first time in defending NFC champions’ season. … Panthers’ stout run defense being betrayed by weak pass defense yielding 286.9 yards per game. … Carolina QB Cam Newton spoke with Commissioner Roger Goodell about concerns over big hits this season. Newton feels he isn’t being protected. … 2015 All-Pro DT Aaron Donald says Rams won’t change how they play after Newton’s concerns went public. … Rams come off bye week with three-game losing streak. … Rams finally get third real home game of relocation season. They’ve played at Coliseum just once since mid-September season opener. … Rams went 41-20-1 at Coliseum during November when they played downtown prior to 1979. … Rams struggling in passing game yet again with just 227.7 yards per game, despite showing signs of improvement from last season. Still aren’t ready to play No. 1 overall draft pick Jared Goff. … Fantasy Tip: Panthers had 12 sacks in first six games, but sacked Carson Palmer eight times last week. Rams QB Case Keenum has been sacked 16 times in seven games.

    in reply to: Rams seek recommitment to running game, Todd Gurley #56779
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    Opponent Spotlight: Panthers must stop Rams RB Todd Gurley
    Los Angeles Rams running back Todd Gurley has yet to truly get things ramped up this season, but the Carolina Panthers hope things don’t change this weekend

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/opponent-spotlight-panthers-must-stop-rams-rb-todd-gurley/

    Los Angeles Rams running back Todd Gurley has yet to truly get things ramped up this season, but the Carolina Panthers hope things don’t change this weekend.
    Gurley, who rushed for more than a 1,000 yards as a rookie last season and averaged 4.8 yards per carry, has been limited to 403 yards rushing and 3.0 yards per carry this season. Gurley has played in all seven games for the 3-4 Rams, but he’s yet to rush for more than 100 yards in any game, and his longest run is only 16 yards.
    Gurley had gallops of 71, 55, 52, 49 and 48 alone last season. Part of the issue is teams don’t have to respect the Rams’ passing attack of quarterback Case Keenum and wide receivers Kenny Britt and Tavon Austin but so much, allowing them to commit more players to the running game as a result.
    Carolina will almost assuredly do the same on Sunday. The Panthers swallowed up NFL leading rusher David Johnson in the 30-20 win over Arizona last weekend, holding him to 24 yards on 10 carries.
    Unfortunately for the Panthers, Luke Kuechly is dealing with a groin injury (though he should be fine to play for Sunday), while Shaq Thompson also isn’t expected to play this week with a knee sprain. That means the Panthers will be down one of their more versatile defenders against one of the more talented backs in the NFL.
    Gurley is due for a breakout game sooner or later. The Panthers just have to make sure it doesn’t come Sunday.

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    ZN,

    I for one appreciate all you do.

    Thanks BT. But sucking up like that will not improve your situation. You still owe the monthly posting fee RamsMaineac has me collect for him.

    in reply to: Good article #56700
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    It’s a long story, but I accidentally deleted a Zooey post. (Apologies. Brain glitch.) Fortunately when I went backwards to when the post still existed on my computer, I could copy it. That’s it here. It goes like this–me, zooey, then bt. So this “restored post” is out of order.

    ===

    zn wrote:
    I don’t agree that he’s a brick through a window.

    I think he’s a regression to a time before windows.

    His followers see him as shaking things up. And if he wins some won’t even notice how badly they are getting screwed over.


    ZOOEY:

    Oh, I have come around to agree with you on that.

    If Trump wins, his supporters are going to be ELATED, and I understand why. They think they are sticking it to the Man. And they will be, a little bit.

    But long term, these rural dispossessed people are going to get it worse from him than they will get it from Hillary. Nobody is going to “restore” what they want. Nobody. Not Trump with 100 Trumps in the Senate, 435 Trumps in Congress, and 9 Trumps on the Supreme Court. That economy is gone; those jobs are gone.

    There is no going back.

    There is only going forward from here. And Trump’s “going forward” is going to be about Trump. And he is interested in making easy money off Real Estate without all the cumbersome legal structures, and that is where he is going to focus. And that is going to screw rural America even more. They are voting for a man who is simply going to grab their resources by the pussy, leave them, and not remember their names later while denying he ever met them.

    in reply to: Deep Time and poetic stuff #56695
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    I don;t know if I have recommended this short story before.

    It fits all the stuff talked about in that article. And more.

    link: http://windupstories.com/books/pump-six-and-other-stories/people-of-sand-and-slag/

    in reply to: where does the offense rank, last 3 games #56692
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    OFFENSE, TOTAL YARDS
    LAST 3 GAMES 14th
    FIRST 2 GAMES 33rd
    SEASON 30th

    COMPLETION PERCENTAGE
    LAST 3 GAMES 8th
    FIRST 2 GAMES 33rd
    SEASON 22nd

    3RD DOWN CONVERSION PERCENTAGE
    LAST 3 GAMES 7th
    FIRST 2 GAMES 33rd
    SEASON 15th

    That’s pretty good.

    I forget to do passing offense.

    PASSING OFFENSE
    LAST 3 GAMES 8th
    FIRST 2 GAMES 30TH
    SEASON 25th

    I also screwed this one up. Didn’t complete it (forgot 1st 2 games)

    SACK PERCENTAGE
    LAST 3 GAMES 18th
    FIRST 2 GAMES 30TH
    SEASON 21st

    in reply to: Jackie Slater interview #56691
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    Slater on …

    the running game

    (best thing that happened to Dickerson was the Rams OL)

    Cam Newton

    his coaching career (including a stint with the Raiders)

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    Did Hayes have a setback with his ankle, or is his DNP just precautionary?

    What I found.

    from http://www.ocregister.com/articles/keenum-734149-rams-injury.html

    INJURY REPORT

    The Rams got some good news Wednesday when defensive tackle Michael Brockers, guard Jamon Brown and cornerback Trumaine Johnson all returned to practice in limited roles.

    Brockers, who previously had been listed with a thigh injury, now is designated as having a groin injury. His return, and that of Johnson, who has an ankle injury, would be big for a Rams defense that faces a significant challenge against Carolina.

    “(Johnson) was limited today in practice,” Fisher said, “but only because we held him back. He wanted more, so that’s encouraging.”

    William Hayes did not practice, as he continues to recover from an ankle injury, and receiver Nelson Spruce remains out with a calf injury.

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    I don’t agree that he’s a brick through a window.

    I think he’s a regression to a time before windows.

    His followers see him as shaking things up. And if he wins some won’t even notice how badly they are getting screwed over.

    in reply to: Norv Turner resigns as Vikings OC #56677
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    Well, he must be good to get himself hired so many times.
    And he must be bad to get himself fired so many times.

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    No he was always a good coordinator IMO. Edit: well okay I checked. Not always.

    He wasn’t as good as a head coach.

    A lot of the time, remember, he wasn’t fired, he took another job (sometimes as a head coach).

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    Anyway there are variety of penalties and some are better or worse than others.

    I think that’s true and I think that’s a good breakdown.

    .

    Also.

    Rams, penalties, last 3 games, according to Teamrankings.com: https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game

    17th (ie. 16 teams have fewer).

    I assume they mean last 3 games the Rams played, not last 3 game weeks in general, because otherwise they would be counting a bye week, with zero penalties.

    Also

    Top 10 in most penalties, last 3 games.

    Oakland
    Miami
    Washington
    Baltimore
    Jacksonville
    Philadelphia
    Buffalo
    Denver
    Arizona
    Dallas

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    Anyway there are variety of penalties and some are better or worse than others.

    I think that’s true and I think that’s a good breakdown.

    .

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    How many teams has Norv broken up with now?

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    I count 9. One, twice.

    ..

    in reply to: Norv Turner resigns as Vikings OC #56655
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    In fairness the vikes starting OT’s are on IR , they are actually starting Jake (get Bradford killed) Long at LOT . It’s bad .

    This is real.

    A Vikes fan took out a craigs list ad for offensive linemen.

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    Dangerous Cam Newton, Panthers coming to L.A.

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/31483/31483

    It was Oct. 20, 2013, when the Carolina Panthers and Los Angeles Rams last played one another. Five Rams players were called for personal fouls. Sam Bradford suffered a knee injury. Chris Long threw a punch. More than a dozen players were entangled in a scuffle. And perhaps most relevant, Cam Newton completed 15 of 17 passes and the Panthers won at home, 30-15.

    Now they meet again, this time at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum for a Week 9 matchup that kicks off at 1:05 p.m. PT on Sunday. The Rams followed three straight wins with three straight losses and are fresh off a bye. The Panthers improbably lost five of their first six games on the heels of an NFC Championship but are coming off a 30-20 win over the Arizona Cardinals. Below are six opposing players to watch, courtesy of ESPN Panthers reporter David Newton …

    OFFENSE

    QB Cam Newton: Newton is sick and tired of taking late hits, as he said repeatedly after a 30-20 win against Arizona. But he’s not tired of running. He made it clear in his second game back after returning from a concussion that he wanted to remain a dual-threat quarterback. He showed that with seven carries for 43 yards against the league’s second-ranked defense. When Newton is a threat as a runner, it opens up the entire offense and makes the Panthers less predictable. That enabled him to complete passes to seven different receivers against Arizona. Look for more of the same against the Rams.

    RB Jonathan Stewart: He’s on a tear, rushing for 180 yards and four touchdowns in two games after missing three straight with a hamstring injury. He’s one of the toughest backs in the league to bring down, and his toughness carries over to the rest of the offense. He’s also been key as a blocker with teams bringing extra pressure to Newton. Carolina has given up only three sacks in the two games since Stewart returned.

    WR Ted Ginn Jr.: He’s not as highly publicized as Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess, but he’s arguably just as important to this offense. Over the last two games, Ginn has 10 catches on 14 targets for 107 yards. He’s becoming more than just a deep threat like he was much of last season. He’s become a threat underneath and making clutch catches to keep the chains moving. Ginn hasn’t found the end zone, which he did 10 times last season, but the more attention defenses pay to Benjamin, Funchess and tight end Greg Olsen, the more opportunities Ginn will have.

    DEFENSE

    CB Leonard Johnson: He may have been the missing link for this defense. He definitely brought an energy and spark to that unit. Against Arizona, his first start for Carolina as the nickel back after spending the first six games on the non-football PUP injury list, he had eight tackles, a sack, a quarterback hit and a pass defensed. He played 65 snaps because outside linebacker Shaq Thompson left in the first half with a sprained knee. With Thompson questionable for the Rams, Johnson again could see a lot of playing time.

    DT Star Lotulelei: He had a career-high three sacks against the Cardinals, including a strip-sack that led to a fumble return for a touchdown on the game’s first series. He has a career-high four sacks on the season. With opponents focusing on 2015 Pro Bowl selection Kawann Short, who had 11 sacks last season, Lotulelei is getting fewer double teams and more opportunities to pressure the quarterback. If teams turn their attention to Lotulelei, that could free up Short to cause havoc up the middle.

    S Kurt Coleman: The strong safety suffered a broken thumb against Arizona, so he’ll be playing with a cast against the Rams. The Panthers need his experience and leadership in a young secondary. With free safety Tre Boston finally starting to play to expectations, the back half of the secondary is able to help take pressure off the inexperienced corners. The Panthers didn’t give up a touchdown pass of 20-plus yards against Arizona after giving up nine in the first six games.

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    Practice Report 11/1: After the Bye, Rams Prepping for Panthers

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-practicereport/Practice-Report-111-After-the-Bye-Rams-Prepping-for-Panthers/b3cf5aca-7a74-4774-a25f-29c4cd62612d

    After four consecutive days off for the bye week, the Rams were back at the facility for meetings on Monday, and their first practice of the week on Tuesday.

    “The players took advantage of the break. We didn’t have any issues. A lot of guys stayed behind. As I said, where else would you go? It was great,” Fisher said. “We got some guys back — guys who stayed behind, that needed treatment — and we’re close.”

    For players like defensive end William Hayes, the bye provided a chance for recovery, with Hayes still nursing an injured ankle that caused him to miss two games.

    “Yeah, it kind of gave me a little longer to give me a little more time to help me get my ankle back right, so it came at the perfect time,” Hayes said. “Well-needed, so I feel a little bit more refreshed and ready to go.”

    But now Fisher said he can sense players are ready to get back on the field, particularly at home. And they will do their best to combat any sort of bye week hangover.

    “There are statistics associated with the week off, penalties tend to increase a little bit after a week off. You have a tendency over the years, at times, to start a little slower,” Fisher said. “But I don’t anticipate that with our guys, they’ve played hard, they know how to practice. I’m kind of excited to get back on the field, it seems like we’ve been out of the Coliseum forever right now.”

    Indeed, the last time the Rams played at home was Oct. 9 against the Bills. And they’ve only had two true home games this season — though they were considered the home team against the Giants in London.

    Los Angeles will make its return to the Coliseum against a Carolina team that has a likely deceptive 2-5 record. The Panthers beat the Cardinals on Sunday 30-20 — a score that does not necessarily reflect the ways in which Carolina dominated the game. The Panthers recorded eight sacks on Arizona quarterback Carson Palmer, returning an early fumble by the signal-caller for a touchdown. At one point, the Panthers led 30-7.

    “It’s hard to look at the tape and see that they only won two games, but it’s a good football team,” Fisher said. “We get a sense for watching them match-up against Arizona, because we know Arizona very well, and it’s a dominating game. It was a great effort by them, and a much needed win for them.”

    “You just look at the history they had last year — the plays they made and the plays they’re making this year, too,” defensive tackle Aaron Donald said, “they can hurt you in a lot of different ways. So we’ve just got to try to contain those guys. And [we’ve] definitely got to stop the run, and definitely the deep threat that they throw at us.”

    Fisher said he does notice some of the same traits in the Panthers that come through in many of the NFC West teams. It’s the way they’ve been assembled to run the football on offense and play tough, physical defense.

    “Our focus and our goal going into this week is we’re going to have to play the best run defense we’ve played all year, just because of the way they’re built, and the way they commit to it,” Fisher said. “That puts a lot of pressure on your secondary, but we’re going to have to commit there.”

    That starts with quarterback Cam Newton, who is a load to handle at 6-foot-6 and 260 pounds.

    “He’s like a defensive end with running back athletic ability, and he can throw the ball,” Donald said. “So he’s just a special type of guy we’ve just got to get to and try to bottle up.”

    “He’s a quarterback that’s just as big as defensive ends, and he’s running just as good as a running back, and he can throw — he’s probably got one of the strongest arms in the NFL,” Hayes said. “So you put all of that together, you’ve got a man [that you’re] trying to hit. He’s an outstanding football player.”

    That will be the focus as the Rams get ready for the defending NFC Champions.

    “We got a good start on the plan and we’re playing an outstanding opponent,” Fisher said. “We have a big week ahead of us.”

    CONCERN WITH LOW HITS?

    After Sunday’s win over the Cardinals, Newton was critical of some of the low hits he’s taken inside the pocket. So, being Newton and the Panthers’ next opponent, are the Rams concerned they might fall victim to an overcorrection?

    “I’m not concerned about it, because there’s no rule changes, and our players understand the rules — as do their players understand the rules. So I’m not concerned about it at all,” Fisher said. “I’m more concerned about him extending plays with his legs and making plays with his arm. He was an MVP for a lot of reasons last year.”

    “We’re just going to play the way we play football,” Hayes said. “We don’t go out there to play dirty, we just play physical and fast. We’re not going to target him because he’s complaining about being hit.”

    That said, both Fisher and Hayes said they understood Newton’s frustration with the particular hit that went unflagged, as Arizona defensive end Calais Campbell hit the quarterback low and in the pocket.

    “I think some of those hits he was talking about were kind of questionable,” Hayes said. “But to say we’re not going to try to go after him, that would be false.”

    “Across the league, it happens all the time,” Fisher said. “The league’s priority, from a safety standpoint, starts at the quarterback position. I’ve done a lot of work, through the [competition] committee over the years, protecting the quarterback – there’s going to be things that just aren’t called. At the same time, there are hits on quarterbacks that are legal that are called fouls. The league’s doing the best they can to protect them.”

    INJURY UPDATE

    No official injury report on Tuesdays, but Fisher did have good news on both cornerback Trumaine Johnson and defensive tackle Michael Brockers.

    “They were out today, so they’re coming on,” Fisher said. “Probably will be a game-time decision. We’ll have an injury report for you at the end of the week.”

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    In wv-world, no single human would ever be allowed to ‘own’ 500,000 acres of this planet.

    I could go on from there and rant about all the specific details of Kronky’s madness, but
    I’ll just repeat — No human should be able to own 500,000 acres of this small planet.

    I blame the system.

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    This story leaves a bad taste.

    Though of course it’s not just Kroenke. The people who let the leasers stay for years and then made millions off of selling the land to SK could pitch in a little something.

    Anyway I heard he bought the lake just to move it to China.

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    Eh. I’m not so sure I’m impressed with your list, zn.

    After 5 other teams, Collins ended up with the Titans and had one good season. He was replaced the following year. So I’m not sure why you think Collins had his best years under Fisher. While Bradford may have had his best year under Fisher, he never had a GREAT year–which is what you want from a #1 pick.

    Foles melted down. It happens. It happened under Fisher.

    Fisher has not(besides McNair) impressed me with QBs. So I stand by my point. Fisher does not have a great history with QBs–especially with no running game.

    I will say I like what Keenum is doing with his limited ability. And I thought Mannion looked better in pre-season.

    But we’re talking about the #1 pick in the draft. He has to be a top tier guy. He has to be. You don’t draft a “game manager” at #1. If you give up all those picks you do it for greatness.

    I hope you’re right. I hope that Goff is all of that. He has to be because if they missed on him they will suffer for years.

    I hope you’re right.

    But I just look at Fisher and his history and think it would have been wiser to take the most pro-ready guy. No one disputed that was Wentz.

    But I get it–the Rams are playing the long game. If Goff becomes Montana I can sit down and shut up and smile. And breathe s sigh of relief. And laugh at how silly my post was when I questioned the pick. And I’ll love every minute of it.

    Well you;re not impressed with the list because there’s no Brady, Warner, or Rodgers on it. But that’s just the luck of the draw. Frankly BB is lucky to find Brady.

    Nevertheless, McNair played well.

    Collins’s best season was with the Titans. He was a pro bowl qb in 2008.

    Bradford played well for the Rams in 2012-13 when he didn’t have a banged up OL (a problem that has re-surfaced in Minn). Doesn’t matter where Bradford was picked–he was never going to be elite, I always said he was in the Flacco/Eli class.

    And Foles crashed. I put that on Foles.

    The rest were either Vince Young or #2 types, with Keenum being the best of that lot.

    None of that gives me pause in terms of a coach developing a qb. I instead assume that Goff is a good pick and will do well.

    So we just differ.

    Which is fine. We could use a good board war around here.

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    It’s becoming clear there were 2 big reasons the Patriots traded one of their best defensive players to the Browns

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/becoming-clear-were-2-big-152321240.html

    The Patriots shocked the NFL world on Monday by trading linebacker Jamie Collins to the Cleveland Browns for a 2018 third-round draft pick.

    The move came as a shock to most: Collins is a multi-positional, athletic defender who has posted 10.5 sacks, 10 forced fumbles, and five interceptions in his four seasons with the Patriots. For a Patriots team that is quietly struggling on defense, giving up a talented 27-year-old defender was puzzling.

    However, since the trade was made, it’s becoming clear that the Patriots’ head-scratching decision came down to two factors: money and on-field production.

    The money aspect is nothing unusual. Collins will be a free agent this summer, and keeping defenders like him can be expensive. The Boston Globe’s Ben Volin reported that Collins turned down an $11 million-per-year offer from the Patriots in contract negotiations. It would have cost the Patriots about $15 million if they had given Collins the franchise tag.

    However, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported that Collins at one point was asking for Von Miller-type money — Miller signed a six-year, $114 million contract this offseason. Miller is a far more productive player than Collins, arguably the best defender in the NFL, having posted 68.5 sacks and 17 forced fumbles in his more than five years in the NFL.

    Clearly, the two sides differed on Collins’ value. As Volin recently noted (before the trade), Patriots linebacker Dont’a Hightower, a more cerebral, mature player than Collins, is also approaching free agency this offseason. If the Patriots had to choose one of the two players, Hightower would seemingly be the favorite, as he’s also a team captain.

    However, the decision to trade Collins seems to go beyond just financial differences of opinion. Collins’ production was down slightly this year (though it’s worth noting that he’s ranked as the ninth-best linebacker on Pro Football Focus). Collins has seen his snap count fall since Week 5, and it plummeted in Week 8 against the Bills, when he played just 62% of defensive snaps — he played 100% of defensive snaps in the first four weeks of the season.

    Furthermore, he appeared to be bothering Patriots’ coaches by doing what several in the NFL world have called “freelancing” on defense. Mike Lombardi, a former assistant for the Patriots, wrote on Twitter that during the Week 8 win over the Bills, Collins was doing “whatever he wants” on the field and hurting New England’s defense.

    Lombardi said on Bill Simmons’ podcast on Monday that Collins’ attitude made him a poor fit for the Patriots.

    “The way he’s played through the first eight games, he was getting demoted within each game,” Lombardi said. “Yesterday, the second play of the game, he goes, he just kinda does whatever he was gonna do, he kinda played with no enthusiasm, and he seemed like he didn’t really wanna play. … And so I think, at some point, they had to send a message to the rest of the team.”

    Browns coach Hue Jackson, in defense of Collins, even seemed to acknowledge that Collins doesn’t stick to the game plan, saying, “The way he freelances is OK with me.”

    Similarly, as CBS notes, in an interview with Improper Bostonian in September, Collins said something revealing about his preparation when he was asked about watching football:

    “I didn’t grow up watching football, and I still don’t. Me and Chandler Jones have talked about this since I first got up here. I never watched football. I never thought I’d be here, and I’d rather play video games. I don’t really want to watch it.”

    Collins’ inclusion of Chandler Jones — whom the Patriots similarly shipped out last year before he became a free agent — is worth noting. For a team that preaches “doing your job,” under a head coach who ruthlessly makes sure players are prepared, not watching football won’t fly.

    The Patriots return for Collins is uninspiring — either a 2017 third-round compensatory pick or a 2018 fourth-round compensatory pick, according to reports.

    However, as Lombardi noted on Simmons’ podcast, the Patriots are aware of the prospect they’re trading. They understand that Collins is a talented defender, but his attitude issues, combined with an impending payday, made him a poor fit for the Patriots. They traded him while they could, and, as the Patriots are wont to do, will resort to the next-man-up philosophy to find his replacement.

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    Rams won’t hold back against Carolina’s Cam Newton

    By Gary Klein

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-panthers-newton-20161101-story.html

    Cam Newton complained about alleged illegal hits and his voice presumably reverberated all the way to the NFL commissioner’s office.

    Not that the Rams seem to care all that much.

    As they prepared to play Newton’s Carolina Panthers, Rams defensive linemen Tuesday said they did not plan to change a thing in their pursuit of the reigning NFL most valuable player Sunday at the Coliseum.

    “He probably needs to slide a little bit faster,” end William Hayes said.

    “The whole point of the game is for 11 people to hit 11 people,” tackle Dominique Easley said.

    Newton complained Sunday after the Panthers’ 30-20 victory over the Arizona Cardinals. The quarterback said that defensive lineman Calais Campbell should have been penalized for an illegal hit below the knees.

    “It’s really taking the fun out of the game for me,” Newton was quoted after the game. “At times, I don’t even feel safe. And enough is enough.”

    Newton said he planned to speak to Commissioner Roger Goodell about the issue.

    On Monday, Panthers Coach Ron Rivera said the 6-foot-5, 245-pound Newton was victimized by what he described as “a little bit of the Shaquille O’Neal treatment” from officials.

    “He’s a bigger guy for that position as opposed to some of the smaller quarterbacks of stature,” Rivera told reporters in Charlotte. “When they get hit, they roll around to the ground. When he gets it, he absorbs them and it doesn’t look as bad.”

    Rivera also said he had contacted Goodell.

    Rams Coach Jeff Fisher said Tuesday that Newton “overreacted” to Campbell’s hit “but I can understand his frustration on that.”

    Fisher noted that illegal hits are missed by officials in every game, including “half a dozen or so” on Rams quarterback Case Keenum this season.

    The Rams have been penalized 68 times this season and have had two defensive players ejected from games.

    Tackle Aaron Donald was tossed from the season-opening loss against the San Francisco 49ers. End Eugene Sims was ejected against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

    Donald was also fined for unnecessary roughness penalties at the end of the game against the Detroit Lions.

    Asked if they were concerned that the Rams might come under greater scrutiny in the immediate aftermath of Newton’s comments, Fisher and Rams players said no.

    “I’m not concerned about it at all,” Fisher said. “I’m more concerned about him extending plays with his legs and making plays with his arm. He was an MVP for a lot of reasons last year.”

    Newton, who led the Panthers to the Super Bowl last season, is completing 57% of his passes, eight for touchdowns, with six interceptions.

    On Sunday, he passed for 212 yards and rushed for 43 in a victory over the Cardinals that ended a losing streak at four games and improved the Panthers’ record to 2-5.

    “He’s like a defensive end with running back athletic ability and he can throw the ball,” Donald said.

    Donald said “you’ve got to bring your big boy pads if you’re going to tackle him,” but the Rams would not change the way they play.

    Hayes concurred.

    “We’re not going to out there to play dirty,” he said. “We just play physical and fast.

    “We’re not going to target him because he’s complaining about getting hit.”

    Easley took issue with Newton complaining about not feeling safe.

    “I don’t think they should be playing the game if you’re worried about being safe,” he said.

    Quick hits

    Offensive lineman Jamon Brown, who was sidelined against the New York Giants because of a left hand injury, said he underwent surgery Oct. 25 and is ready to play against the Panthers. … Cornerback Trumaine Johnson (ankle) and defensive tackle Michael Brockers (thigh) worked out. Fisher said they probably will be game-time decisions. … Fisher on rookie quarterback Jared Goff, who took first-team reps during the bye week: “He’s good and he benefited from it, no doubt. We’ll continue to give him the same reps we’ve given him the last few weeks, work him in with the 1s during the preparation week.”

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    But here is another sobering thought:

    Are the Rams the right organization to develop a player like Goff?

    They don’t have the best track record with QBs. Other than McNair…who has Fisher developed in his 21 years of head coaching experience?

    So…why not just take Wentz? Make it easier on everyone?

    Yes Fisher has done well with qbs. It’s a myth that he hasn’t. In fact PA it’s a BS myth.

    It’s not just McNair. Collins had his best years under Fisher. Young was the owner’s pick and forced on Fisher. Bradford also did well under Fisher WHEN the OL was not an injured wreck. (Ironically Bradford faces the same issue now with the Vikes.)

    Foles melted down. Shrug. Happens. I think it’s because he had not adjusted to playing pro style after being in the spread in college and with Kelly. Same reason they’re taking their time with Goff.

    They took Goff because he is better at what they are looking for in a qb. They were also not worried about not starting him. Most rookie qbs who start do not win. But then most teams picking high in the draft and starting a rookie qb are rebuilding and can afford to not play in “win now” mode.

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    All I know is, with Case, they need to just attack the intermediate zones.
    No more short passes, and no more ridiculously deep passes.
    .

    Just some thoughts to add to yours.

    According to those numbers, CK is 5 of 13 on passes of 31 yards or more, which is 38.5%—which is good. The way I do this, on passes of 31 yards or more 30% is decent, 40% is good, 50% is extremely good. I got that template just from doing this for a few years, where now and then across the years I would compare different qbs on downfield completion percentage.

    As you know, there’s a fallacy out there about Keenum–that he can’t throw long. Actually of course what he can’t do is throw medium with velocity. If he can loft a touch pass in the 11-20 or 21-30 range, medium and deep medium, he’s fine. But as we all know he can’t throw lasers–the lower the trajectory past 10 yards, the less effective he gets. But he can throw long, he just has to add air to them.

    I think the long ball is just part of their game. Another stat. Stats LLC does big passing plays, or passes of 25 or more yards (though this one, unlike espn splits, includes RAC and is not purely in the air). According to that stat Keenum is 6th in the league (here: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFL&rank=118&type=Passing ).

    I agree that they need a medium ball but then that will be Goff and probably not Keenum.

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    Case Keenum 77

    Granted, Keenum has been playing better than he was early on. Still.

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    It has reached the point now where if you average in the 1st 2 games for any Rams offensive stat, you end up with a distorted picture. With some stats, dramatically so. In this case, there’s nearly a 30 point difference between the 1st 2 games & the next 5 games.

    CK qb rating
    last 5 games: 88.6
    season avg all 7 games: 77.5
    first 2 games: 59.75

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    Plus I was bored and nothing else about the Rams was in my twitter feed.

    I always appreciate people posting stuff. Especially on Mondays and Tuesdays, when I have less time to do it. We don’t have to be selective. We grab it, post it, then see what we think. Most of the time I don’t even read things before I post them. It’s just all part of The Conversation.

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    Hard to imagine something easier to write.

    We know what’s working, we know what’s not.

    I suppose it’s good to have it spelled out in accessible black n white.

    (BTW this doesn’t need to be said but here goes anyway. When I say negative things about an article, it has nothing to do with the poster posting it. It’s the article. I post articles myself that I then criticize in a response. So thanks for the contribution, N. Now sarcastic voice–thanks for penetrating beyond the obvious, article writer.)

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    And the obvious problems remain.
    No running game,
    up and down defense.

    ————

    Yeah, No Running game,
    Inconsistent D, and
    Huge Turnovers (pick6’s)

    So what’s the cause of each one of those,
    and are any or all of them fixable ?

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    IMO.

    The D has to stay healthy.

    Depending on the qb, the pick 6s are mostly (not always) about a qb who was not supposed to be in that position carrying the team and pressing.

    He was supposed to be not the main weapon but an effective game manager on a team that can run and play defense. Then no need to put the entire offense on the qb, no need to press.

    In fact given that he was pushed into that role, Keenum IMO has done far better than anyone had any right to expect. Look at my list of “last 5 or last 3 games” improvements. Many of those things are better than they have been in YEARS.

    So it all gets down to the running game. Yet this team has run the ball before. No one else got anything out of Stacy. Gurley was great last year. So who knows what is happening, though it’s probably a long perfect storm style list of things. There are different theories, and IMO every theory has a part truth in it.

    If they can get that running game up and going, they have the makings of a good team here. Even before Goff gets in there.

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    Fix the things that need fixing (running game, inconsistency on defense) and this is actually a very good lookin team.

    The problem is I don’t think either of those things will get fixed this season.

    The defense has been inconsistent since Fisher’s been here regardless of who the DC was. The running game could improve a little I suppose but to really fix it they may need better players on the o-line.

    I don’t look at it that way. The defense under Williams has always been good when it wasn’t suffering from key injuries. Though sometimes it has been good in spite of key injuries. I don’t think Fisher is the operative person, it’s Williams. That’s his defense. And in fact right now, in spite of being up and down, it is ranked 10th in the league. It just can’t have collapses like the Detroit game, though I took that as being more about having both Tru and Quinn out than anything else.

    The same OL last year had Gurley doing better, so I don;t know if it’s personnel per se.

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